― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)
(yes, i did. last night. and i will not talk about it because it was horrible and wrong.)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― not gareth, someone else (gareth), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)
gareth i think america has broken yr brane.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― polka, Friday, 18 October 2002 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― toraneko (toraneko), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)
No way. This is the most asexual, least appetizing community I've ever been involved with in all my travels across the global interweb. AND I'D LIKE IT TO STAY THAT WAY!
(Just kidding. Some of you are quite cute.)
― Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 18 October 2002 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:53 (twenty-three years ago)
maura: you dreamt about momus last night didn't you jess?jess: no, because then you'd be reading about my suicide today.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)
I think this says more about your subconscious, Mandee. Not that I mind.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mandee, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)
A: yes.
A: no.
and i'm out!
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)
(SNAP!)
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)
Does anyone else think that Tom "bum-and-armpit sex fiend" Ewing got off lightly on this thread? (And could someone hand him a tissue?)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 18 October 2002 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)
I only just realize that the thread is about IL(se)X *DREAMS*!!
Dear fucking lord, I thought Jess had an honest to god really odd sexual experience happen at his house...
COFFEE IS A GOOD THING! Maybe I should actually consume it on Friday mornings.
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 October 2002 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)
That is disgusting.
― Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 18 October 2002 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 October 2002 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― C J (C J), Friday, 18 October 2002 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)
if it was ethan, i would admit it.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 18 October 2002 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Friday, 18 October 2002 23:45 (twenty-three years ago)
I have no idea where Sarah got the bum and armpit stuff from BTW.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 October 2002 23:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 19 October 2002 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 19 October 2002 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)
― vic (vicc13), Saturday, 19 October 2002 06:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)
Erk.
― Andrew (enneff), Saturday, 19 October 2002 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 19 October 2002 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 19 October 2002 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 October 2002 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 19 October 2002 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 19 October 2002 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Sunday, 20 October 2002 01:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 20 October 2002 01:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 20 October 2002 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)
(= tell us something we didnt know, harvell)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 20 October 2002 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:32 (twenty-three years ago)
Donut Bitch will be dreaming about Shaggy in the back of the Mystery Machine...
This instantly gave me the mental image of Shaggy the Jamaican reggae warbler chillin' in the back of the Mystery Machine. Which made me immensley happy.
Oh wait, I got it now- in Marvel comics, super heroes are adored and accepted as long as they're not mutants, i.e. as long as it's not genetic. Perhaps it's the same thing in Disney? i.e. Pluto was born a dog, but Goofy was just a regular mouse/duck/cow whatever who drank some super serum or got bitten by a radioactive dog or whatever...
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:59 (twenty-three years ago)
thats not even a real prize.
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 21 October 2002 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally, Monday, 21 October 2002 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)
!!!
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 21 October 2002 05:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 21 October 2002 06:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 21 October 2002 10:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 21 October 2002 11:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 October 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 21 October 2002 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)
Nice work if you can get it.
― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 21 October 2002 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 October 2002 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 21 October 2002 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 21 October 2002 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:12 (twenty-three years ago)
(Seriously, if you spill something good rest assured that I'll reward you. Somehow.)
― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 03:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 04:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 06:18 (twenty-three years ago)
Where's Hanle y with the salacious comments now?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 22 October 2002 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)
i only read one of them and he was trying to get people to post answers as quickly as possible.
the rest of the dream was about cloud rings and the end of the world, bit shit really now I think about it.
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)
get out of my car and into my dreams, as Bizarro Billy Ocean would say.
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Kate you tart! You and HSA must have a active healthy sex life.
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
Was *Momus* dressed as a penguin? (Before anyone gets any wrong ideas.)
― kate (kate), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)
i have completely forgotten who was in my dream now.
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Must have been a short dream!
(Crowd goes wild)
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
Right here: it involved no ILXors
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
― huell howser (chaki), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)
― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― definitely logged out for this one!, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
Kidding! And probably very fortunately for everyone, too, considering how much of a laughing stock I am.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Thursday, 8 September 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
― ~~~~ DODONGO DISLIKES SMOKE ~~~~ (ex machina), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
Last night I dreamt I was in a canoe with two male ILXors, out in the middle of the ocean, and then one of them is all like "Man, there's nothing to do out here, let's compare penises," and then the other one drops his shorts and he has this MASSIVE chunky horselike penis, and then the first ILXor is like "hey, wow, that's a good one" (even though I got the distinct impression they'd done this before), and then gradually the first ILXor goes from pointing to it, conversationally, to kind of touching it, and then stroking it, and then eventually he's like groping all over it and I'm politely staring out across the endless ocean like "ho-hum, interesting tern over there, don't you think" while second ILXor is all like "ooo" and giggling.
I'M SORRY THREAD I WILL NEVER TRIFLE WITH YOU AGAIN
― nabiscOHGODNO (nabisco), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― carly (carly), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)