Hipster Cuisine

http://worldofstelfox.blogspot.com/2004/06/give-my-regards-to-broadway-market-one.html

[for non brits, delia [smith] is famous for her cooking in UK]

It dropped out of grad school before it could get its doctorate; that must be hip.

I'm serious. I just ate one the other day:
http://65.25.250.220/sa/megettingfat.jpg

The key to "hipster cuisine" is A) is it cheap B) is it nasty C) is the packaging ironically crappy.

no, I'd say the key to "hipster cuisine" is overpriced, bland, Thai food in Brooklyn.

also:

http://www.vegdining.com/GetRest.cfm?rk=US-MA-BOST-GRASS

ZzzzzZzZ

Also: I found the worst article ever:

http://www.thestudentunderground.org/article.php3?Issue=43&ArticleID=318

double hipster action.

Moonshadow is better, imo.

xpost you are going to the wrong grocery stores, guys, the Food Emporium on 68th and Broadway sells both items for heaven's sake. I guess I should say Supermarket because a lot of bodegas or small grocers wouldn't have stuff like that. But yes, utz would be the "hip" brand of potato chip because the packaging looks like it got lost in 1974 and half the bags got that stupid girl somewhere on them.

kekekeke

xpost - I like Brooklyn Lager, but not in cans.

double xpost - they brew Rheingold near me now:

June 9, 2004
PUBLIC LIVES
Brewing a Plain Old Favorite in Brooklyn
By ROBIN FINN

THE hulking, cone-shaped stainless steel tanks in this Brooklyn warehouse loom like missiles, but only a paranoid teetotaler could mistake their contents for weapons of mass destruction. What the tanks actually contain are ales and lagers, tens of thousands of gallons of the golden liquids, all patiently fermenting inside a former Borden's dairy plant reincarnated as a birthplace for adult beverages far more sophisticated than milk.

If this is Brooklyn, these must be microbrews, a k a boutique beers - but there's one historic, news-making exception. Plain old Rheingold is back home in the borough where it was born, after a 30-year hiatus. Nestled here among the trendy new brews is a freshly arrived antique whose secret recipe dates to 1883, the year it debuted.

Kelly Taylor, the laid-back brewmeister at Greenpoint Beer Works, wouldn't pound down a Rheingold if you paid him. Label him a beer snob, and Mr. Taylor, who presides over this three-man operation in cargo shorts, T-shirt and knee-high rubber boots, won't protest. He wouldn't touch a Bud, either. This cheerful fanatic swears that beer is more complicated than wine, and excitedly ticks off fragrant and exotic ingredients - wildflower honey, apricot nectar, strawberry juice, cardamom - that seem better suited to a perfume bottle than to a keg.

"Beer is an incredibly, incredibly complex beverage, more so than people give it credit for,'' he says.

But he's being paid to brew Rheingold, not reinvent it or, horrors, to guzzle it. Sips don't count. Mr. Taylor puts away a pint a day, tasting all the varieties he concocts, as a sort of business obligation: file it under quality control.

This month he has produced his first batch for Rheingold, which bases its brewing operations in Utica but, in a back-to-its-roots mode, wants to make and distribute a small amount of a special 1883 brew in the New York metropolitan region. Unless his scientific calibrations, and his taste buds, are fooling him, he and his equally laid-back assistants nailed it on the first try.

"I recognize that I'm a craft brewer, and my first instinct when they approached us with this deal was, 'But I don't want to brew Rheingold!' " says Mr. Taylor, 33.

He is sufficiently boyish to have trouble repressing a grimace when asked to evaluate Rheingold's ingredients, provided by an octogenarian brewer affiliated with the company. "It was like pulling teeth to get the recipe out of him," says Mr. Taylor, who finally won over the old-timer by sharing his own samples. Bonding over beer: how appropriate.

Mr. Taylor starts with a disclaimer: "It's a recipe I would never have put together, definitely the lightest beer I've ever brewed, not a lot of hops, and not one I would put my name on."

But profitability trumped prima donna-ism. It made sense to take on Rheingold; it meant breaking even after a year in business. And brewing a simple, mainstream beer was more of a challenge than Mr. Taylor had expected.

"I rationalized that it would be a very good exercise for us to see where our weaknesses are, because with this formula, there was no room for fluctuation," he says. "I tasted it, and it tastes like Rheingold. This 1883 recipe has a little more flavor, a little more alcohol than their regular beer. It's stronger, stepped up a notch."

Mr. Taylor gingerly taps into a 2,000-gallon vat of Farmer Jon's Oatmeal Stout, takes a sip, and pronounces it "almost done." Nice work if you can get it. He has been home brewing since he was 19 and used his college apartment in San Diego (he majored in international business at San Diego State) as his lab.

HERE he makes Cornhusker Lager, Red Rooster Ale and Summertime Apricot Ale, among others destined for the Heartland Brewery pubs in Manhattan. To call this stuff beer is an understatement: the brews are wildly adventurous, except for what's in Vat No. 7, which is headed elsewhere. That's the Rheingold. To each his own. Mr. Taylor also brews soda in black cherry and, duh, root beer.

Upstairs in the office, he parks himself on a castaway sofa. (All the furniture, even the barber chair and the piano, were foundlings from outside on Waverly Avenue.) The brewery's resident pest-control expert, a gray cat named Bad Andy, sharpens his claws on a rubber mat. Mr. Taylor has a mellower cat, Gelato, at home.

Mr. Taylor uses unfiltered New York City tap water for his microbrews. His newest is called Matrimony Ale. He and his fiancée formulated it - the malt is Belgian, and the yeast comes from California - for their wedding, July 4, in New Rochelle. He likens the ale to a light, crisp summer wine. "Believe me, nobody wants to come to my wedding and drink Bud Light."

Mr. Taylor grew up in a restaurant family in Mukilteo, Wash., 40 miles north of Seattle. His grandfather transformed a 10-seat diner into a 250-seat seafood restaurant, and all the Taylors worked there. He bused tables at age 10, worked in the kitchen in his teens, and after college returned home and worked for the mayor, a former line cook in his family's restaurant who had opened a pub and brewery.

After working for several West Coast breweries, Mr. Taylor moved to New York City and took a job with Mitsubishi International. Within two years, he missed making beer. He showed up at Heartland Brewery in Union Square with his resume wrapped around a bottle of homemade brew - his Honey Porter - and was hired on the spot. In January 2003 he became director of brewing operations at Greenpoint Beer Works, renovating this site to his specifications.

He isn't worried that carb-phobia will hurt the future of his favorite product, saying: "I'm not really concerned that the Atkins diet is going to do away with a 12,000-year-old beverage."

In Albany, particularly at Valentineís, there was no safe place to stand where you wouldnít be kicked or punched or jumped on. That might have been one of the reasons there were no misfits at Albany hardcore and metal shows. I found much more solace in Albany shows because hipsters didnít show up. These people want nothing to do with the dancing or the crowd. They stand apart or on the backstage platforms in a sad attempt to look like they belong.

yep - same with Rheingold except for the batches they're making at the GREENPOINT BREWERY in - wait for it - CLINTON HILL.

BURN.

"FUCK THE KERRY!"

HIPSTER! vs. PENNSYLVANIA POLOCK!

i'm trying to find a new job...haircut was needed

Dude have you ever checked out half the clientele of Veselka???!

I think this makes me a kept white-trash woman more than a hipster.

http://www.yoitsren.com/knifewarren4.jpg

lauren read that... NOW!

keep in mind i love quorn

http://www.cspinet.org/quorn/

This isn't what I was looking for, but I hardly ever post cat pictures and this thread is already a lost cause.

Season's asparagus in tarragon aioli served in paper 'sno-cone' cup
Mini cheeseburgers (slider size)
Chipolata sausage and mash with v. tomatoey gravy in 'sno-cone' cup
Cod goujons to dip in pea/mint sauce in 'sno-cone' cup

I'd have to say that hipster cuisine is served on trays at posh launches sometime between 7 and 8pm and is canape-sized.

Also the food served at launches at Sketch eg. the macaroons - yum.

their only truly valuable contribution to society as far as i'm concerned.

how is eating at chick-fil-a supporting religious nuts? it's just a fast food franchise, each store individually owned and operated.

your damn right i don't give a shit about the chicken.

actually i meant chick-fil-a itself was christian fundamentalists only valuable contribution to society.

but yeah, i was being oversensitive. i really love chick-fil-a. even worked at one for a short time.

"um latebloomer in a franchise-type op there are franchisers and franchisees."

franchise, schmanchise.

buying from an "independently owned and operated" McDonald's still means you've put money in McDonald's Corp's pocket.

i'm well aware of all this i just was trying to point out that chick-fil-a wasn't run entirely by a christian fundamenatlist corporation or something like that, and that the franchisees run the actual stores. i wasn't clear about it though so i'm sorry about the confusion.

also, orthodox ANYTHING is by definition fundamental. Doesn't necessarily mean putting a pipe bomb in the Atlantic Ave. subway, tho.

NYC water is not kosher.

to some people it could also mean King David Hotel, settlements, etc.

okay, I'll stop.

JON = :-D

errrr...ummmm, not that I've seen that show or been inside acqua santa.

actually, thanks to my old job, I ate lunch a few times in Tao which was on that show a few times (one time I went, $3K went on the corpo plastic):

Tao Bar
42 E58th St , Between Madison and Park Ave, New York,

Telephone: 001 212 888 2288

When you set eyes on the 16-foot high Buddha in the front dining room, you realise you're in for something special. Next door to the magnificent Four Seasons Hotel, it's a former theatre space that's suitably big on drama and superbly dramatic on drinks. True, the smooth-talking city types in name-label suits who flock in here probably wouldn't know a theatre from a thimble, but then this is post-modernism and New York is the master at it. The space is spread over three floors, with two Pan-Asian cuisine dining areas looking down on the folks in the bar below. Forgo the food though and hit the cocktails: quirkily-titled specials like the Absolut-based tao-mopolitan which should send you on the path to everlasting enlightenment. At least until morning.

If you go to one bar have a look at this one. Great staff, great food, great place. Do it.
Reviewed by Peter, Birmingham u.k.
Thursday, June 03, 2004

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This place is awesome!! I went for a friend's birthday and we were given one of the best tables in the place - right next to us was a table with about 15 models around it. My friend got a bit pissed in the end saying she thought she might as well not be there with all the attention I was paying to the models. I couldn't help it though! Tao is obviously a place to see and be seen when you are in New York.
Reviewed by Owen, London
Wednesday, May 19, 2004

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Absolutely LOVED Tao.. drinks were strong, cool crowd, buddha rocked, the wasabi crusted steak was one of the best meals ever, staff were efficient and not too full-on. Will definitely be back when next in NYC. Have recommended to other friends and they feel the same.
Reviewed by Sarah, London
Monday, May 17, 2004

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I loved the ambiance of the place. Yet, drinks are overpriced, staff snobby ...
Reviewed by Andy, Canberra
Tuesday, January 20, 2004

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I'm proud that this place is in NYC! It should be a must see for New Yorkers & visitors. There is electricity in the air in this joint.
Reviewed by John, New York
Thursday, December 04, 2003

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mmmm... try the tao-tini. Get lucky and you might have dinner with a couple of celeb's.
Reviewed by Jen, Philly
Tuesday, November 11, 2003

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Tao was great. I experienced my first Koby Steak here, and although it cost me a bit more than a small family hatchback, it was worth it. The waiter informs us that the Koby Cows are massaged to Jazz music, so as to keep the meat super tender!
Reviewed by James, Scotland
Wednesday, November 05, 2003

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We went on a Sunday night & it was a mundane mix (saw 2 celebrities). Food was ok (nothing to rave about); drinks were not bad though. Overall, I'd give Tao a 7 because I liked the Buddha. Seating arrangement in the bar section was a bit odd.
Reviewed by Jay, NYC
Sunday, November 02, 2003

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I must say that I love the architecture and ambiance of the place. The large Buddha sets the stage! However, that's about the only attractive thing about the place. Not so good-looking people trying to look rich, overpriced drinks, snobby staff! See for yourself....
Reviewed by Liz, New York
Monday, September 22, 2003

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Wonderful waitresses, top dollar cocktails, great lounge music, a huge Buddha. Need I say more? Go and see it when you can. You will not regret it! I promise!
Reviewed by Marc, Belgium
Friday, August 29, 2003

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THE place to be! Good food, nice crowd and yes wonderful staff. We loved it. Plan to visit again next month.
Reviewed by Alpana, Matawan
Tuesday, July 08, 2003

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Fab to drab in a hot minute. Once was cool, don't bother, unless you're looking for a sugar mama in Canal street. Prada... sans looks
Reviewed by TC, SOHO
Tuesday, April 22, 2003

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I went to this restaurant whilst in NY and loved it. The bar was packed to the gills so we went straight for the table. The food was lovely and the cocktails worth the struggle through the crowd. Sex and the City fans will recognise this place!
Reviewed by heather, london
Wednesday, February 05, 2003

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Well if you want to eat it's great with loads of room, but if you're a smoker stay downstairs where it's cramped. Upstairs for the non-smokers it has more room but right at the back of the restaurant. The place isn't exactly buzzing, but it's not a bad crack. Overall not a bad place.
Reviewed by Mark, Coventry
Sunday, January 26, 2003

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Went to Tao bar upstairs with my husband the Friday of Thanksgiving week. If it wasn't for the Buddha, I would have thought I stepped into a casting call for The Sopranos. And I mean that for the women, too, who, I am sorry to say, were not much to look at, either. Maybe it was a bad night, but trust me when I tell you that this was strictly a bridge and tunnel crowd. We split for Pangea and had a great time..
Reviewed by Gianna, Las Vegas
Wednesday, January 08, 2003

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Now this place rules. This is definately the hot spot to be before you go for dinner & drinks before you head down to a party. Gorgeous crowd too.
Reviewed by Omayra, Elizabeth
Thursday, December 26, 2002

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I visited Tao during NY's fashion week. The cocktails were well presented and the staff coped well even though the place seemed well over capacity. The evening, including food was fantastic and even though slightly the worse for wear I managed to take one of NY's finest back to my hotel... Tao's vibrant atmosphere giving that lift to be able to put on a good show!
Reviewed by Eamonn, London
Tuesday, December 03, 2002

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Incredibly fit women as far as the eye can see. They let us in despite me looking like sh*t. Myself and my friend stood and marvelled at the incredible array of ludicrously attractive nubile women. Expensive beer but worth it for the sight seeing!
Reviewed by Paulo, Birmingham, England
Saturday, November 30, 2002

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As a design architect, I must say TAO is pleasing to the senses in every way. My only gripe is that drinks are more expensive than the entertainment budget will allow for the average Joe. You either drink or eat there, but you'll find it hard to do both. And that's a shame cause I know most of you would like to eat and drink there more often once you've tried it.
Reviewed by Jose, Paterson
Monday, November 25, 2002

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Hey I guess the 'London contingent' should stick to home turf. This place rocks. I have been taking my wives there for the last 15 years. We would not dare venture anywhere else. 10/10
Reviewed by Chuck, Indiana
Tuesday, November 05, 2002

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I have to agree with the London contingent. This place is full of lecherous old men, inconsequential wannabes and dollar sign Sirens. If you are the type to shun the Village for Tao, then the Village is the beneficiary.
Reviewed by Ade, New York
Monday, November 04, 2002

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I've been in NYC for two years now and Tao is the closest to a 10 out of 10 I've seen yet in terms of atmosphere. If your looking for quaint or cozy, then go to the village. This place is for the posh and chic. Its lack of cover allows for pretenders, but they're easily spotted here. My advice, start your saturday night at Tao, and you won't be disappointed.
Reviewed by Ethan, Austin, TX
Tuesday, October 15, 2002

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Despite the dodgy name, Trampus is Taotally on the ball about this place. Full of old men letching after drab girls perching on bar stools like buzzards. The bar itself is impressive - although not on par with the buddah bar in paris. Music was also crap. Inconsequential house! Avoid unless you're old or a buzzard!
Reviewed by jon-t, London
Tuesday, October 15, 2002

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I have to say this bar ain't all that - Perhaps they need to toughen up their door policy judging by the excess of the old and not so beautiful - The music was as awful as the bar staff rude – not one of the world's best bars.
Reviewed by Trampus, London
Wednesday, October 09, 2002

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I make it out to the City 3 or 4 times a year and Tao always maintains the No. 1 spot in the club rotation. Beautiful people, outstanding ambience, and solid drinks. Best of NYC, far and away.
Reviewed by Damon, Minneapolis
Monday, September 30, 2002

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A group of us visited the TAO bar and I have to say we agreed that this was one of the best restaurants ever... Bar is cool - a mix of people (a few naff) with great drinks, atmosphere and food to die for. If you're in a big group - try to book the 'top' floor - amazing view over the whole place.
Reviewed by Mark, London
Friday, July 26, 2002

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The place to be while in New York, for excellent drinks, good music and beautiful ladies.
Reviewed by Carlos, Mexico
Wednesday, July 17, 2002

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Having been informed that Tao is the hot spot in NYC we were, to say the least, thoroughly disappointed. Where are the beautiful and stylish people?? The best thing about the place is the Golden Budha and the Exit sign. The type of people of go there are over weight pseudo rich men who need hair transplants and liposuction as for the women they have all been hit by the ugly stick. Need I say more. We have partied in europe, south east asia, far east and Tao just does not cut the mustard. Have not eaten there yet but we will sample the delights of Tao. Our expectations were not fulfilled. Ambience is 2 out of 10, crowd 4 out of 10. One thing good about Tao were the Cosmos - they are worth a try. Since there is not charge to get in it is worth popping in for a drink with no expectations. Overall - nothing special. Image Consultants UK.
Reviewed by Austin, NYC
Sunday, July 14, 2002

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This is an amazingly cool bar. This is so much better that the Buddha Bar in Paris that everybody is talking about. One of the best in New York.
Reviewed by JB, Geneva
Monday, April 08, 2002

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Very dark, very cool bar packed with gorgeous women and a good vibe. Staff could be nicer though...
Reviewed by Joel, London
Monday, March 11, 2002

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Very nice place. The food is great and the waiters very friendly. The place to go while in NY.
Reviewed by Damien, Guadalajara
Saturday, January 12, 2002

What's your favorite line in any Fire Theft song? The one that does it to me is in
Ocean's apart when he sings, "Moments arise." Such a beautiful chord and melody line
behind it. Gets me every time.

SevenPinkerton
4/17/2004
12:05:00 PM
Total Posts: 5054

Hello, to the world.

-Seven

StevenNick99
4/17/2004
3:34:00 PM
Total Posts: 5

love my girl
get a job
feed the world
choose a god

mywings
4/17/2004
6:04:00 PM
Total Posts: 47

I want looove if love wants meeeeeeeee....

nickisthereason
4/17/2004
11:21:00 PM
Total Posts: 1286

hello to the world... but not the first time he says it, but the second.

or

never wanted to throw it away pretneding that you were never my friend

rebecca
4/19/2004
9:00:00 AM
Total Posts: 165

"The Sun warms my mind. The moon cools my toes."
AND
"Taking back the hope that men destroy"
well, basically ANY line from "Sinatra"

I don't know. I have so many favorite lines.

there's a rumor going around on the saves the day message board:

http://bb.dreamworksrecords.com/savestheday/showflat.php?
Cat=&Number=65347&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

for the benefit of other fans who might be let down on too little notice, can anyone
confirm this?

crash_and_die
4/6/2004
1:37:00 AM
Total Posts: 537

hmmmmmm????

Elfstone
4/6/2004
11:27:00 AM
Total Posts: 117

I don't know one way or the other, but reading the opinions of those mindless kids on tft
killed a few of my brain cells.

It's possible that it was just a hasty opinion based on them not playing the show as
announced the other day and not actually leaving the tour.

ed9k
4/6/2004
12:20:00 PM
Total Posts: 60

I hope they don't leave the tour....if they do, can I get my money back for the tix?

thetimeittakes
4/6/2004
3:21:00 PM
Total Posts: 4

I posted that on the board, and my friend read it from a newssite (absolutepunk.net).
However, that site is full of rumours (although most of them turn out to be true), so
it's not "official news" until it is posted on this site, I suppose.

And if you were talking about me as one of the "mindless" kids, way to be blind. Here's
the situation: if YOU were driving down a 4 hour show to see one band (in your case,
TFT), and you knew that Saves the Day were headlining that one show, wouldn't you too,
be absolutely happy if STD drops the tour? Of course you would because that means that
your band will get a longer set.

If TFT weren't going to headline the Seattle show and they cancelled, I'd be a little
disappointed because I really did want to check them out live. As much as I like(d)
SDRE, I never got into TFT, so maybe seeing them live would change my opinion. But
that's not the case: the fact that TFT were going to headline equates to my favourite
band getting less minutes. The fact that TFT might not play my show equates to my
favourite band playing for longer. It doesn't get much more simpler than that.

RONIN
4/6/2004
5:56:00 PM
Total Posts: 16

I guess the rumor just became true because this site just confirmed with an update that,
because of Jeremy's voice trouble, the band won't be playing til the 14th in Seattle.

Well, best of luck to Jeremy and the whole band. Though I'm sure a hand full of people
are going to be angry about this, trust me, they'll get over it! This marks the
lowpoint in TFT's touring history but, hey, it happens.

Elfstone
4/6/2004
6:12:00 PM
Total Posts: 117

Actually I was more refering to posts such as "ewww they gonna headline one of the shows?
EWWWWWWWW," "i'm glad they aren't playing.. i hate their music so much!" and the
multitude of posts by people with the grammar and spelling capabilities of a rock.

saltpeanuts
4/6/2004
6:25:00 PM
Total Posts: 1381

So some people don't like TFT...big deal. That hardly qualifies them as "mindless."

rose hill
4/6/2004
9:10:00 PM
Total Posts: 1775

Is only if you don't like Jeremy that makes you mindless. Heeh! Is his smoking recking
his voice?

crash_and_die
4/6/2004
9:14:00 PM
Total Posts: 537

I don't think the smokeing has anything to do with it. I smoke and my voice is no
worse. Eddie Vedder smokes, and his voice is great. I know many singer sthat smoke
weed, and that shit is worse for you then Cigs. Drinking is worse on your voice then
Cigs. I think he jsut got torn up. Don't give the man shit for smokeing, its his choice
and not your.

saltpeanuts
4/6/2004
10:03:00 PM
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"I know many singer sthat smoke weed, and that shit is worse for you then Cigs."

Marijuana is a bronchial dilator, whereas nicotine is a bronchial constrictor. I'm not
sure if it makes much of a difference, but doesn't it make sense to think that marijuana
might aid in one's singing abilities...at least while one is under the influence of
THC? Just a thought.

Another thought: while a joint is worse than a cigarette (in terms of carcinogens), the
typical cigarette smoker may go through a few packs a day. The typical stoner doesn't
smoke nearly as many joints in a day. Most of the people I know who smoke pot (but not
cigarettes) don't smoke more than two or three joints a day--in fact, some days they
don't smoke at all. So I would say that cigarette smoking is worse because of the
lifestyle that come with it (and that lifestyle is a product of the fact that cigarettes
are chemically addictive, but marijuana isn't).

crash_and_die
4/7/2004
1:27:00 AM
Total Posts: 537

I smoke more pot then I do cigs and I will tell you right now that it doe smore to my
vocals then then cigs. Cigs only come out when i get drunk(which i am right now). Like
I said before, I know many singer that smoke loads og cigs and they sound fine. Its the
screaming that fucks his voice up, that shit hurts and is not good. Personally,and this
will be disagreed on, I think cigs make some people voices sound better.

Either way, I hope the man get well and can sing in the future to make us all proud.

the frog queen
4/7/2004
5:51:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

regarding cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol and caffeine:

cigarette smoke is a potent irritant due to the heat and the toxins contained within it. it causes your throat to
become inflamed and swollen in your body's efforts to heal the damage that was done. and while marijuana
doesn't contain the nicotine in cigarettes, it's still smoke, and smoke you typically inhale without any filter
whatsoever. contrary to popular myth, lung cancer is the least of any smoker's worries. smoking makes allergies
and asthma a lot worse. because it destroys your body's natural way of transporting cleansing mucus out of
your airways, it makes people much more prone to respiratory tract infections (which equal more cancelled
gigs). but what will doom most smoker singers in the long run is emphysema. how can anyone sing when even
breathing silently feels like gasping for air through a coffee stirrer? 25 pack years is the point when most
people are at high risk for lung damage. (a pack year is the number of packs per day times the number of years
you've smoked that much. so a person who smokes 1 pack a day for 25 years is at equal risk for disease as
someone who's smoked 2 packs a day for 12.5 years.) of course, there are variables, like how deeply a person
inhales, not to mention genetics (some are just naturally more prone to certain lung diseases and cancers).

as far as drinking goes, alcohol dehydrates your throat when it comes into contact with it. in the long run, it
also acts as a diuretic (makes you pee). caffeine also causes you to urinate. if you don't make it a point to drink
extra water to compensate for consumption of these things, you will lose liquids, drying your throat and putting
yourself at a greater risk for injury.

these are the facts. anyone with half a brain will tell you that these things are bad for most singing. granted,
some singers are lucky enough to get by doing all these things, and sometimes to great excess. but it makes
you kinda wonder how great they'd sing if they cut back or stopped altogether. now some people claim that
these things help achieve a certain sound with their voice. female jazz singers use cigarettes to cause swelling
of their vocal cords to achieve a lower range. but nearly everyone who does it will pay a price for that sound.

sloth
4/7/2004
6:40:00 PM
Total Posts: 138

my guess is that, no matter how much he smokes, Jeremy's voice problem is mostly a
function of his singing style. he does a lot of very upper register and head voice
stuff which can absolutely kill your voice, especially when you're singing night after
night in very small clubs where the stage sound is, ahem, usually less than ideal. the
fact that Jeremy really pushes his voice in an emotional way doesn't help, either.

anybody who saw Audioslave over the last year or two knows that Cornell's voice was
totally ravaged, especially compared to 10 years ago, and Cornell and Enigk have very
similar deliveries (even if the result is pretty different). the classic "rock" voice
is usually a baritone that is straining hard for the upper register, and that just kills
a voice if it's done every night for months on end. FWIW, Monster Magnet just called
off a whole leg of their European tour as a result of Dave Wyndorf blowing out his
voice, so it's not like this is the first time this has happened to a band or to a
singer.

I feel very fortunate to have caught the Detroit show, and it was pretty clear that
Enigk's voice was killing him then (despite the fact that he sounded brilliant).

rose hill
4/7/2004
8:36:00 PM
Total Posts: 1775

Has he gone to a voice coach?

crash_and_die
4/7/2004
10:13:00 PM
Total Posts: 537

Its the style for sure. You can't sing like that for years and not expect some damage.
I love it though. And beleive me Pinar, you can sing4e and smoke like a charm. You
don't smoke so of course you will disagree with this. Until you are first hand you will
not truely know. And weed is worse for the lungs then Cigs.

the frog queen
4/7/2004
11:02:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

although some people feel them a lot sooner, most of the consequences of smoking are down the line. you
can't know that for sure because you haven't smoked enough... yet.

and where did i say i don't smoke? does it even matter if i do or not? jeremy himself tried to quit at one point.
he knows it's not the best thing for his health, even if it is helping him sing now. it's a big sacrifice he's making
if he does indeed smoke to change his voice. but anyways, i'm not trying to lecture anyone here. you're all
adults. if you love to smoke, smoke. just make sure you know the long-term consequences of what you're
doing and how it may affect your voice in the future.

also, i agree that the singing style is probably the main culprit here. but it doesn't seem as though he's going to
drastically change his style anytime soon because he likes the sound. so either he learns to like another sound,
or he cuts back on touring. no other way around it.

crash_and_die
4/7/2004
11:43:00 PM
Total Posts: 537

You have told me you don't smoke and I have been smoking for about 7 years. I am also
aware of the health risk as I am sure Jeremy is.

the frog queen
4/8/2004
8:38:00 AM
Total Posts: 3299

damnit! you're ruining my mysteriousness!

crash_and_die
4/8/2004
10:05:00 AM
Total Posts: 537

ha ha, I try. Should I tell them how old oyu really are???

the frog queen
4/8/2004
10:38:00 AM
Total Posts: 3299

let's take a poll first: how old do i look?

on the radio they said at the seattle show they are going to be filming for an upcoming
dvd? or selling them im confused???

GongLi
6/6/2004
12:56:00 AM
Total Posts: 69

This would make me very happy, i will be crushed if you have filled me with false hope,
so i am now putting the DVD responsibility soley, pressure's on

GongLi
6/7/2004
4:42:00 PM
Total Posts: 69

I just heard on the radio that the DVD will be filmed at the Seattle show

the frog queen
6/7/2004
9:28:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

you seattleites better go berserk at this show. i want to see epileptic seizures, stigmata, guerrilla warfare, and
no less than three bras and one girdle thrown on stage by the end of the night.

but seriously: DANCE TIL YOU DROP, CLAP TIL YOU BLEED and SCREAM TO LOSE YOUR VOICE. it'll make the dvd
so much fucking awesomer for all of us. i'll seriously puke if i pay money to watch another audience as tame as
the one on the sunny day real estate live video.

emokid951
6/7/2004
9:43:00 PM
Total Posts: 790

I hope they put out a DVD. That would rock my world.

indecimated
6/7/2004
11:09:00 PM
Total Posts: 54

Rock out at the show on Sunday? Is that what you demand?

YOU GOT IT.

GongLi
6/7/2004
11:15:00 PM
Total Posts: 69

yes, i too will rock, just for you

A Fire Theft
6/8/2004
11:35:00 AM
Total Posts: 95

This may be just me, but I don't feel the urge to go ape when I watch these guys play
live. At most I'd be bobbing my head along to the music. I've seen these guys live three
times and the vid of Sunny Day and to me, there music isn't the kind to go so wild you
are flailing your arms and jumping up and down. I just like to be there and absorb their
sound and show.

the frog queen
6/8/2004
12:46:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

i've seen them 9, yes, 9 times in the past 1.5 years. i can say for certain that by far the best shows i attended
were the ones where the audience went apeshit. you might think that the band doesn't notice us out there, but
they do. and sometimes all it takes is like one person freaking out to make a difference. they just soak up our
energy, be it negative or positive, and this colors their entire performance. now even if you personally don't feel
the need to go crazy, don't you find it so much more entertaining when the band dances around on stage? when
you see them smiling at each other? when jeremy breaks a string or will breaks a stick? you can even hear the
difference most of the time. this tells you, wow!, they're not just playing the song, they ARE the song... of
course not all the songs lend themselves to such insanity. i remember watching them just kinda standing there
during "houses"- although it was highly amusing when contrasted with the chaos that erupted during "rubber
bands" and the other faster pieces... kinda like thrash, flail, headbang... stand there and play cutesy music...
thrash, flail, headbang again. haha.

ed9k
6/8/2004
1:12:00 PM
Total Posts: 60

I happen to know that the wifey and I will be going so crazy that she will go into labor
right there at the Showbox.....how about that for special features? Then, when Cletus
(Ethan) does pop out, he will be doing the amniotic shuffle so hard that the boys will be
covered! Ah what fun Sunday will be............

rebecca
6/8/2004
1:31:00 PM
Total Posts: 165

I would've been going crazy at the Chicago show had they played it. Not lame crazy, but
some kind of reactive crazy at least.

Pinar, we will go to a show together one day and we'll bump our asses together and it'll
be grand fun.

Also, my friend went into labor early at a Henry Rollins concert. The baby lived and
they named him Damian Rollins (not sure how they spell damian) but it was a rather
panicky situation. Just kind of be careful. My friend also was using jasmine which is a
uteran (spelling?) warmer or suppose to be anyway, so that probably had a lot to do with
her going into labor early. Sorry, last poster made me ramble with this story.
But you all have fun and cheer them on and let them know how much their music revs your
spirits er...yeah, or some junk like that.

the frog queen
6/8/2004
1:56:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

do you know how fucking hilarious it would be if ethan cletus made his world debut JUST as jeremy belted out
"remembering a reason to be booooorn!!!" you might have to tack on "sinatra" as a middle name.

damnit. i so envy you seattle people. everything i've ever enjoyed on this planet is somehow from western
washington state: the fire theft, tom robbins, richard brautigan, the fire theft, the simpsons, baskin-robbins ice
cream, the fire theft, kirkland signature shower gel, nordstrom rack, the fire theft... the list goes on.

and becky, my sweet, for as much of an asexual clutz that i am, one day all the planets will magically align and i
promise you we shall meet again at a theft show to do some dirty dancin'! RAWR!

ed9k
6/8/2004
2:08:00 PM
Total Posts: 60

We really won't have to worry about him coming that early I don't think....he's not due
until the end of August, but that would be really cool if it did happen...(maybe not
considering how early he would be....) We may need to be concerned during Bumbershoot
though..........

the fire chef
6/8/2004
2:23:00 PM
Total Posts: 2346

the simpsons are from Kentucky.

it's revealed in the "Behind The Laughter" episode

davidbohm
6/8/2004
3:23:00 PM
Total Posts: 5904

"Got a brother named Billy, and my teeth look silly. Break it down."

the frog queen
6/8/2004
4:16:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

look, EVERY american knows that kentucky is in western washington state. duh.

colorsagain
6/8/2004
11:01:00 PM
Total Posts: 53

The bowery show was ours bitches! NO ONE rocked harder then me and my 10 friends, and
this one girl in a black tank top, if you werent rocking you are a dooshwhore. We owe it
to jeremy and the guys because they probably rock harder and get more into it then any
other band ive ever seen. The Fire Theft is Electric!

rose hill
6/9/2004
2:10:00 AM
Total Posts: 1775

Maybe I should get tickets for this shindig?

the frog queen
6/9/2004
8:17:00 AM
Total Posts: 3299

you damnwell better! i wanna see the infamous rose hill in action!

rose hill
6/9/2004
2:56:00 PM
Total Posts: 1775

Why can't you live here? I am really trying to get out of debt but things like this keep
popping up and my finacial adviser is going to get really mad at me and I need to save
for a Roth IRA becuase that's what I really want.

the frog queen
6/9/2004
6:29:00 PM
Total Posts: 3299

i can't move to seattle cuz i'm in the middle of my ed-jerk-ation in philly. i might be able to swing a rotation in
your area during my fourth year. my dream is to do residency there in two years IF any program out there is
stupid enough to have me, which i doubt. haha. but even if not then, i'm pretty sure it's where i'm destined to
end up someday. too many weird coincidences telling me as much.

as for your predicament, i suggest you turn on your girlish charms and go with some lonely emo boy who has
an extra ticket. extra pity points if you cry about how disappointed i'll be if i don't see you on this dvd.

mauryd
6/10/2004
4:12:00 AM
Total Posts: 1

Just want to confirm that a DVD will be shot at the show in Seattle on Sunday. We're shooting with 7-8 cameras and
recording multi-track live sound. We'd love to get comments from people attending the show, so say hi if you see
me walking around with a camera outside before or after the show and think of something good to say; maybe what
you like about them, fav songs or shows, any TFT stories, stuff like that. I'll also be at the Portland show, so come
find me if you're at that show as well.

Maury

crash_and_die
6/10/2004
6:44:00 PM
Total Posts: 537

I was wondering if its possible to rip DVD into audio mp3's so I could also listen to
this in my car. I would love to have a live show on TV and well as in my car stereo. I
would be blasting good live audio Fire Theft everywhere all the time. I am drooling jsut
thinking about this. I would even hav ein on my computer. SHit, I have to run around in
circles for a little while to com down.

emokid951
6/11/2004
1:54:00 PM
Total Posts: 790

so it sounds like the DVD is for real. Sweet.

And that's a great question, crash. I've been wondering the same thing, because I
totally want to rip the audio off of the Led Zeppelin DVD. Some of those songs rock my
world and are not available live otherwise.

crash_and_die
6/11/2004
6:25:00 PM
Total Posts: 537

Yea, I have some great live DVD's that I have always wanted to be able to jam in my car.
If someone has any clue please help me out.

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So many bands are forming as melodic hardcore bands these days it just isn't funny. Not Only do they sound the same but they fail to deliver anything new and fresh apart from their appearance. The worst thing is that the media think it's the next best thing since sliced bread. Wether you have to be on ecstasy to like it or not has to be the issue that arrises to the mind.

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Although many bands are trying to follow what Poison The Well has established thus far, it has to be said that PTW are not one of these bands that are trying to succeed in this current trend of jading the 'emo' term just that little bit more. After all the argument of this band starting the concept of dirty denims, black T-shirts, and screaming with break down of melody is a strong one as coming out victorious is highly possible in a nerdy debate situation.

On the back of two records at the end of 2002, things were cruising along for the Florida born quintet. Heaps of touring and a fluctuating fan base saw the band sign to a major label (Atlantic/Velvet Hammer) and in June saw the band unleash their major label debut "You Come Before You", which in fact holds an intriguing title. "Absolutely just because it was such an important piece of music to us. We felt the title should really communicate the emotion of the record." band guitarists Ryan Primack says.

Now a title of a record is one thing, but the final product is another and with a major label debut often bands tend to get a little stage fright of the big time and crumble at the knees when the big wig barks. "I am the happiest I have ever been with a record. I really feel like we did something different." Primack says.
"Everyone was really cool and just let us do what we do. It was really rad to be honest with you. Besides that even if there was (any label influence) we would just ignore them anyway."

Recording majority of the album in Sweden was just another occurrence out of the inner-circle that these guys managed to pursue. Recording with the great duo of Pelle Henriccson and Eskill Lovstrom is something that bands don't do everyday so when the opportunity arrises it's a case of grabbing the opportunity with both hands and not letting go.

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"Sweden was a destination by default. Pelle and Eskil are from there so that's where their studio is. It just made sense to record where they were the most comfortable. We got to do half of it in LA and then half in Sweden. It was just the most sensible to finish where they were relaxed and at home." Primack said.

With producers of that stature on board many followers had the gut instinct that this time around was going to be a different sound and edge compared to previous PTW outings. The instinct was one that failed to wash away, as a more polished and larger sound was at the helm of YCBY, even though Primack wasn't so sure about that judgement.

"Really you think so. I know for sure this is the noisiest and most chaotic record we've ever done. I think its the rawest outing yet. But I mean the difference is that with this record were hoping to get on a couple of Wal Mart soundtracks. Sorry that's sarcasm." He says jokingly.

The jokes don't stop there. Interesting track titles such as 'Zombies Are Good For You Health' also seemed to crop up on this outing and although it's something not to take all that seriously it has to hold meaning to it, after all where not dealing with fucking popstars here, were dealing with a band that have gained respect from The Deftones and Killswitch Engage as well as others.

"Yeah for sure I think Jeffery really set out to communicate something with the titles that sort of encouraged the listener to take their own interpretation of the lyrics." Primack said.

As Poison The Well's fan base continues to increase throughout Australia "You Come Before You" will see a earlier release then their previous two outings, which comes as a result of the band being on a major label as well as increased fan base as mention above.

"Yeah totally cause now we could probably get some financial help to get over there. We have always paid for everything right out of our pocket. "We can catch some waves or something. I hear the surf there is amazing." He says.

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strokes in argentina...!!!!!pleaseeeeee - ale_argentina87 [05/10/2004 17:35 PDT]
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SELLING 2 Strokes TIX in Columbus, Oh - beccab00 [04/19/2004 21:48 PDT]
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nyc tickets - rxmuhsx [12/10/2001 22:15 PST]
hey i'm looking for tickets to their show at the apollo in NYC on dec 30 if anyone has and tickets or knows where i could get some please let me now. thanks [reply]

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Current tours - jon san [10/19/2001 19:26 PDT]
Are these guys touring any time soon? If so, are they coming anywhere near Texas? [reply]

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The Strokes - makersmark [10/16/2001 14:27 PDT]
The Strokes def. make me want to party like it is 1975. This record has the certain "I can't put my finger on it" rock and roll vibe that I really dig. There live show is the best part about this rock outfit. [reply] 2 responses

(5 s | dying wish)
[11 Jun 2004|12:00am]
so today was the last dayof classes tommorrow i hav emy math exam! im really nervous for it i never been nervous for a test or exam every! oh goddness!i wanan play parchessie!

(dying wish)
[10 Jun 2004|06:54am]
fuck texas.

(dying wish)
[10 Jun 2004|05:03am]
its 2 am me and brandon just made a pizza and ate it! he means the world to me. took a drive in clifford the big red van today bouncy fun lol. busy weekend up in mass ahead!i really miss mandy . like so much. her and brandon honseetly mean the world tome. and i have been negelting her so much, and that hurts me so much. if i ever lost her i would be lost. shes my fuckign sister an di mean that amanda you are.we NEED to start hangign out more much more. i hope you understand that i havent been not hanging out with you pourpsely or what not. im just confused and depressed and insanely stressed out and of course thats no excuse. but i wont stand to see our friendship turn to a mere high school hello and goodbye. i mean that! <3 ::sigh:: i donno why i vented all that in here. probly because i didnt wanan start a fight or whatever.. ok

im done for now love deadhorse in the sand durign march.

(4 s | dying wish)
today was fun shit [07 Jun 2004|03:02am]
papa ginos ended up beign tasty i got french fires and got mega full! alex is the woman! indeed we wen tot eh kelly sq flea market and GOT SHAQ FU HOLY CRAP YEA im so happy@ tuesday hangign with mojo mattakanickky and travi pooo! and wed. is my sweet clap flys party! which im hopefully goign to !sweet dude

(3 s | dying wish)
yummy [05 Jun 2004|04:54pm]
yesterday i had a buge fight with my mom that jenn and brandon both got towitness... totally grindcore and shit. after an hour or so of that we went to a amanmzign show! briad! minus the bear! nd murder by death!!! sooooooooo good <3 too bad that wired thing inmy foot was killign me! oh well i love jenn shes sucha a good freidn<333333

(1 | dying wish)
this should be intresting.. [04 Jun 2004|01:09am]
TYPE YOUR NAME WITH YOUR...
NOSE:swaqb54r9na
TONGUE:sabbrrrina
CHIN:sabbrjnaz
FEET: saabbbriiinnnnna
EYES CLOSED AND ONE FINGER: sabrina
BACK OF YOUR HAND:sabbrina
PALM: sabrnz
MOUSE: sabrinaz
WRIST:abraz

wow i did suropuisly well! only if i typed liek that all the time the wolrd would be a happier polace

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NEW LOOT [02 Jun 2004|02:07am]
HEY DOOD WHERS MY BREEEWWWW IM SO FUWKIN DRUNK DOOD I WANAN GO FAWK SUM SLUTZ GLAHHH.

STOLE goodies.
two purses
a new bandana
11 eyeshadows
4 books
cammo tank
two hoodies
a new skirt
legwarmers
eyeshadow swab things
two scarfs
sunglasses!

ruler i misser dmy baby soooo much today.

i miss everyonre!@

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dear world part two [31 May 2004|12:23am]
i love you with all of my heart and person and you look so adorable while you color in your muppet babies colorign book<#

brandons aunt is amazing and i love pizza.

bye fuckers

(2 s | dying wish)
who the hell is this [29 May 2004|06:01pm]
holler last night it was fun up in mass hangign with brandon and his pals keith bryan sister girl.. and ALEX shes amazing :) it was a fun night ate at dennys and such :9 yummys tonight is byd in ct with brandon and yaritza! <3 so sexy then 2morro mikes party then dinner with brandon aunt<3 monday hanging with ria.. or a cookout...? who knows..... mandy!@!!! call me monday if your not working. or ill dail your cellie. peace faggots <3

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im listenign to thursday shhh [27 May 2004|03:24am]
i read brandon a bedtiem story out of my favorite storybook. and he fell asleep it was so adoarble so i kissed him on the cjheek an doul the covers up. ahh amazing. ithink me and brandon are heaidng out to ct, to see byd and embrace today. hmm who knows yet.

(8 s | dying wish)
[25 May 2004|03:23am]
so tonight was the with honor/give up the sandwhich show! it was really good all fore that dumb tool from that retarded band that sucked lol. me and brandon went up to the call with laura and met up with yaritza amanda cappie dave noelle etc the show was really ill but serilsly the best part of the night was seeing josh! hes so amazing ha im gonan be so happy for leik the whoel week ! sweet well my ears are rignign and i think that is a fair sign for bed! <3

ps. the stumb was amazing

(5 s | dying wish)
osshy [24 May 2004|12:16am]
the locust were so fuckign gooddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd i danced leik "whoa" cant touch this! yeeehaw

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(dying wish)
[22 May 2004|04:56pm]
i got puked on last night :( grosss.

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its all uncle jesses fault [20 May 2004|09:40pm]
brandon made out with my mom! -grut- ewwwww !

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hooray [15 May 2004|05:07pm]
bane show was aweosme saw so many kids it was super dee duper! bands were good! the hostage heart show was killer so many "peeps" eh eh! ?? yay! brandon bought a trampoline today@ yayyyyyyy im gonna go jump!

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[09 May 2004|03:09pm]
party last night was pretty swell! played soem sega and hot a diceeeeeeeeeeee! i almost won! :( oh well brooke rules she is movign and supplyed me with 40 thousand striped shirrts lol~! winnerrrrrr

then i came home and i did my hair which instanly puts me ina good mood! bunrt the kanye west cd! ooOOOoOooooOooooohhh <3 then brandomn cam ehoem and we went to get his check from hot topic i met brooke! and lets just say i love her and her traveling eyebrows! mhm indeed i do! yelp! oh and then there was that ranom girl in price chopper who felt the need to say " you look great" and i was like lookign all around me and so i firgure maybe brandon new her, but he didnt say anythign and there was no one around so i was hrrrmph do i know this girl? " you dont know me" haha alright so id otn know her and she thinks i look great.. so i thanked her and walked away and then she screams out " im not a lesiban" haha so weird. oh well good times!

hot grils who flash there tites gain all my respect and so do the faggots you liek to remebr there hottness! :) NO

(2 s | dying wish)
cards people! [04 May 2004|12:44am]
today was freaking aweosme me and bran drove up to west warwick just to go to a shady db mart1 to see!!...

JOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH RICHERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR<3 thats my fuckign boy right thurr! no lie no fuckign lie ! today ruled i love that kid no lie. thatw= was the fourth time i said no lie in this entry i rule! scoreage!

"ughhh .. that was a GOOD show. sabrina. shut the fuck up brandonnnnn"

josh me plus you plus bonnie plus brandon = ehh ehh nudge to the 3 power double date ehh ehh

love and christmas carols for all!

(4 s | dying wish)
[03 May 2004|09:21pm]
MY BERTDAES TOMMORROW!!! im gonan be 17! oh goodness finally! :)

my weekend was good! went to chemlsford (spellign) and up to NH hung out with brandons friends em jules and dan they were cool people. etc etc um yea rock on cats! bertdaeeeeeeeeeee
!

(4 s | dying wish)
i feel so sexy in cowboy boots! [29 Apr 2004|11:38pm]
so brandon needed a hat for work so we headed up to savers.

so i stole him this random maine hat it has a moose on it :) yay!
but i put on this wicked sick air of cowboy boots and they fuckign fit i was so fucking amped doods! so i wore right out of savers!! then i got bandana thingy and one of those bendy guys you use to model for drawignand painting :)
i havent really updated in while i also have stolen more sweet shit latley. which inculded but not limited too..
-a sweet sweet purse that i love times ten
- another purse not that amazing though
- a sweet skirt black blue and lacey fun fun
- a towley type skirt from american eagle
- flip flops!
-a radio head pin
- a agaisnt me! pin
-two cammo wallets
- this huge ass metal clothes pin lol
- two enneagram books
- "the man who mistook his wife for a hat"
- "eccentric and bizarre behaviors"
-a totally killer belt its blue and on each end there a calsp each one is a gaint gold swan and the swans necks loop to close the belt its so aweosme!

im so behid on this here lj! i gotta post about the agaisnt me! show and post th epics from ny! my visit with jenn, brandon living here, the lucas show and tones of random shit oh well .

i miss everyone times 14!

oh and i have been doign some homework get proud!

<3

(6 s | dying wish)
WOOWHO! [28 Apr 2004|03:41am]
my birthday is on tuesday thats one week im so excited im turning seventeen! ah swweet i think it would be mega killah if people made me cards?! prease oh man i love getting mail. seriously folks ! it would make me so jolly :) ha

get on it you only got a week left!

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WTF?

This thread has sucked my brain into its own little metaverse, JON YOU ARE THE COSMIC TRICKSTER FOOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_70xGUxznYY

lol @ Utz being considered "hipster food."

back in the day, we considered Utz to be "welfare/white trash chips" only a small step above government cheese.

$1 tacos

aren't u australian?

my sister lives near the town in PA where they make Utz chips. it's one of the most depressing places in PA (which is saying something considering that the state has Johnstown & Chester & that town w/ the coal-mine fire that's been burning for 50 years).

that whole part of the state is on some wannabe-Maryland/Baltimore shit.

when me and a couple friends were about 15, we watched a show on tv where they toured the utz (which we had never heard of -- WEST COAST, BIOTCH!!) factory, showing off its various functions, with me and one of the others sitting back and making all sorts of "i love to lick the salf off of utz" "i could fit a whole sack of utz in my mouth" etc jokes, until the third friend was like "THAT'S ENOUGH, GUYS!"

salf = salt obv

herrs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> utz

http://www.typophile.com/files/utz_3593.gif
logo is some straight up hipster bait is all

She DOES have the hipster mini-bang, it's true.
― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:35 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark[

oh shit
laurel otm up thread

it also explains why hipsters don't show any love for Snyder's (made in the same town as Utz, and even cheaper in price/quality).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pretzels_on_display-1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pretzels_on_display-1.jpg

http://s3.amazonaws.com/bzzagent-bzzscapes-prod/pretzels-lrg.png

snyder's is great that is a graet flavor wish I had some right now

i think having a blog that's regularly updated, with a few readers absolutely disqualifies you from being a hipster.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 14 June 2004 14:09 (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Stelfox had some interesting ideas iirc

Utz Crab Chips + Utica Club + Neon Indian = good timez

lol @ Utz being considered "hipster food."

back in the day, we considered Utz to be "welfare/white trash chips" only a small step above government cheese.

― keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Friday, May 7, 2010 3:58 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark

UTZ has always been so ubiquitous around here (MD) that "hipster food" and "white trash chips" are kind of weird, annoying things to hear.

and those Snyder's pretzel pieces are great. your quality assessment of PA's snack foods are straight RONG.

http://eater.com/archives/2011/03/18/yelp-officially-recognizes-hipster-as-an-ambience.php

i woulda died too

What is a "hipster" I have only used the term ironically.

someone with a bike

someone with a mustache

someone with a camera

someone with a band

someone with a beer

... WE ARE ALL HIPSTERS

Steak and potato is the new hipster cuisine. Can't wait until I can afford one.

a potato is inexpensive if you know where to look

fucking bacon fudge

^^^ otm

a potato is inexpensive if you know where to look

tempted to steal this as a DN

bacon anything, as far as i can tell.

(don't know if pdx's own Voodoo Doughnuts invented this or if it was just a bandwagon they jumped on. at the very least they jumped early.)

In-n-out Burger. Strangely not Burgerville though, I suppose because they don't give out any bumper stickers that can show you ate there while also displaying a possible sex joke.

pancakes shaped like ray ban wayfarers

I thought hipsters were either vegans or had eating disorders. Or both.

orthorexic

in-n-out is everybody food

^^^ In-N-Out customers are quite a broad spectrum of un-elite consumers and the locations are ubiquitous... not the most friendly recipe for hipster worship.

wasn't In-N-Out featured prominently in a Big Lebowski scene? before it expanded to everywhere, it was a Hollywood thing iirc. I remember being super excited to finally try it when I first went to L.A. in 1997.

it was never just a hollywood thing, it was a thing that people in hollywood ate cause everyone in socal ate it. cause it's good.

OTM. Fast food, drive-ins, car culture have very deep roots in southern california, maybe deeper than "Hollywood". In-N-Out has served great food for many decades without much (any?) compromise.

lol @ in-n-out being hipster grub
wtf!

OTM. Fast food, drive-ins, car culture have very deep roots in southern california

http://www.angeloshamburgers.com/images/angelos.jpg