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g@bbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The USTA must really hate the best player in the world.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit, not another 2 weeks of sleepless nights...

Meanwhile, doesn't it just seem like forever since The Best Legs in Belgium has played at a slam? It is, though.

Tursunov, Andreev, Sargsian, El Aynoui - lots of potential long matches for Rodge if he's even remotely off for a round or two and those ones get through. And I am going to officially be the only person who is glad Lleyton is #4 meaning he might just get to a sodding semi again...

As for A-Rod, let's hope that Nadal or Blake has the match of their life in round 2 and gets him out of the equation early, or he looks to have a not too awful draw for a while, though MUCH harder than Wimbledon.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo! 'Tis time for the Slam I Never See; the one time I lived in a house avec Eurosport while it was going on, I had an internship for those two weeks. I very nearly turned it down.

Roddick won't win... last year was always in the cards, he went absolutely rampant in the warm-ups, but he's struggled a bit more this year. If Marat decides he wants to play well, Dickhead's losing in the 4th round. (But Marat won't, so oh well.) That said, his early Olympic loss benefits him here... ditto Federer, too.

HAHAHA - potential Venus v Lindsay FOURTH ROUND! Unless Serena pulls out (and rumours are a-swirling), in which case the draw gets rejigged. Lindsay's the hot favourite - undefeated since Wimbledon - but if JHH is really recovered and didn't just profit from two mega-chokes in Athens, Lindsay's not beating her.

Quarter-final predictions from the briefest of glances at the draws -

Federer v Dent
Srichaphan v Kiefer
Haas v Hewitt
(God only knows, maybe J Johansson) v Roddick

Henin-Hardenne v Kuznetsova
Myskina v Davenport
Sprem v S Williams
Zvonareva v Mauresmo

Sharapova to go out in either round 1 or round 2; Rubin to lose to Washington in round 2; Henperson to lose to Karlovic in round 1.

The glorious qualifiers to watch out for - bonkers trash-talking 15-yr-old Sesil Karatantcheva; non-bonkers, non-trash talking (but 6ft and in possession of her first title) 15-yr-old Nicole Vaidisova.

Anyway, in a repeat of last year, I am off to London in a couple of hours and don't really know where I'll be living when I get back so yeah, no idea how much I'll be on this thread. Look after Nastya for me please!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Right - for some reason I've gone for this being Year Of Mass Upset:

Andreev-Massu
Srichaphan-Fish
Gros, Jean, Gros!-Hhewwitt
Scuttler-Andy Is A Dick Slap

JHH-VRP
Payload-Venus
Capriati-Molik
Little Miss Marat-Mesmo

Lawks knows why. I'll be around as much as I can - maybe even finish the gloss this time...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Just a little BUMP to save this from dropping off the new answers board. If my life was something other than 13-hour work days at the moment I might have something more constructive to say but I've not even looked at the draws.

Still, I look forward, in a vague bleary-eyed way, to next week.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand alone (sort of)...

I can't get live scores working, but what has happened so far is that the men's has been fairly upset-free. Rodge straight sets The Dirty Old Man, gets to meet The Greatest Living Cypriot Sportsman Apart From Possibly Nicky Papavasiliou, Marcos Baghdatis. He achieved that accolade by getting rid of Mutey in four. Novak takes the Czech derby, Delic strolls past Janko Tennis Raver, and Moya and Kiefer won as well. Grrrrreg goes down flailing in five against Saulnier.

But we've had our first seed fall in the lay-deez - Sprem neutered in three by Kostanic. The US gets That Wimbledon Feeling as all its plucky losers, er, lose. Thus far. The Saint Angel, The Genevan Love Machine, Gaggles, Connie M and Bunsen Barna make their usual first round exits. Other than that, the nearest thing we've had to a shock thus far is Tammie getting Gissed in two. Unless Foretz beating Shenay Perry somehow counts...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Cap loses first set to Deniiiiiisa Maffia but breezes the next two, and Fish straight sets Ferrer.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

First Men's Seed Down! Uh-oh! Uh-Oh! Super Mario is NOT go - Rochus Superior straight-sets him!

Elsewhere, Mighty Meg is on the edge against Mazza B, as is Alex "Who invited you?" Bogdanovic vs. Alex "Who exactly are you?" Calatrava.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

And literally as we type (literally) Bog gets snorkelled 6-4 in the fifth.

Marion slinging for it...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Andy Pavv two sets up on Jarkkkkkkkko, and Igor Andreev setting himself up for what's becoming his trademark - start appallingly, then RAIN DOWN THUNDEROUS VENGEANCE. Visit Historic Verdasco is his partner.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Bang Bang, She (Bartoli) shot her (Shaughnessy) down (6-4 6-4).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Elsewhere, Pin close to popping Hantuchova, Max Mirnyi is neither seeded nor having much luck against Mickey Tabara, and the X-Man is recovering nicely from losing the first set 6-1 against Krissmass Karel.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

But what's this?

On Court Ten!

Right Now!

IT'S POTITO STARACE!!!

And he looks like getting mashed by Alex Popp. Oh well. C'mon Starchy!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Starchy goes a break and 3-0 down. Then again, he's in good company cos so's Ellie The Demented, against Marat Safin's Sister. Cloudy, Occasional Schaul is raining it down on Lee Waters, and Dani H pushes Pin to a tiebreak in the second.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Hannie pulls off the escape and they're into a third set. Max-Y-Mirn is serving to stay in it, Potsie's serving because it's his turn (5-0 down). Ellie D broke back but Dinara's just righted herself and gone 5-2 up. Callens a set down against Groenefeld (puns to follow)...

And Mirnyi's gone.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

American Suicide Girl #754 is Beth Mattek, out in three to Vetta Benesova.

POTITO HOLDS SERVE!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't remember if Aniko Kapros was great or terrible at Wimbledon. Either way, Douchevina's taking her to the cleaners, 5-1 at the moment. Dem Girlz (I Don't Know Why I Can't Serve The Bloody Thing) loses the first to DinaDinaDinaDina-Saf-in(a).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

And Popp Eats (Pot)It(o)self 6-1. Still, at least two more sets to go...

Lindsay Lee turning that tide on the pesky Luxemburger and is on the verge of clinching the second. Kucera's gonna have to go some to emulate her, as he's on the verge of losing a second consecutive set 6-1 to Xav-Xav.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That was brilliant. I've got an interview today, if it goes to shit, I will at least be able to stay up and watch this.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 30 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done William... I have been reduced to public libraries in order to get results and check this. The Former Skeletor match looked insanely exciting, though I doubt the quality was too high.

In a complete non-shock, Serena Williams is wearing a crazy 'outrageous' outfit. In a huge stunner, she looks bloody good in it - dominatrix black top studded with bits of metal, denim skirt, and KNEE-HIGH LEATHER BOOTS.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, so I went to bed.

What We Missed:

Prince Todd Of Eternia takes his final bow after getting dunked in four by Febreze, emotional farewell to crowd etc.

Two through on walkovers, Golmard and Fixodent take advantage of Labadze and Younes' dodgy ankles etc. Sargs and TJ through with not that much hassle, as were Ags, GAU-DE-TE! and Paul-Henri Mathieu (Exclusively at Debenhams).

She-wise, wins for Dishy, Cara B, (Pleased To Meet You) Miss Haynes, and The Douchebag.

However, what yesterday also saw was lots of people only getting into gear once I'd gone to bed. So we get Chateau Verdasco 1873 hammering his way back against Iggy, Dan-Han ding-donging through against ThumbTack, LLW LBW over Scowler, The Demolition Doll-Rod finally pulling herself together and dispatching Safina, Kucera somehow emerging from the wilderness of losing two consecutive sets 6-1 to counter X's Malice in five, but best of all...

STARCHY DID IT! Yes, despite blowing the first set 6-1, Sex Lives found that once Alex popped, he could actually be stopped rather easily, and took the next three 6-3 6-4 6-3. Beautiful. The rest may as well give up now...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Marat looks as he might meet his bath* at the hands of Thos. Enqvist, the latter having won the 1st set in a tiebreak (where the first 5 serves were broken!) and being one break up in the second.

*(apologies if this has been done to death in an earlier thread)

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(Wow, IBM really ugged up the live scoreboard for this.)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Story so far today -

Yep, Marat's out in the first round once more, Tea & Quizzed does him in four. 27th seed Ljubicic out injured vs. H-T Lee, but other than that no major upsets - Hrbaty and Massu have particularly easy times of it, Timbo makes a meal of disconnecting Ivo-9, Hanescu gives PanPan trouble for a set or two before the Thai finds his feet and takes it in four.

In the women's, only two matches have gone beyond two sets thus far, one resulting in Shinobu putting Smashnova to the sword, the other in Barbara Schett being a bit rubbish. Server Nova find herself being accounted for yet again by a particularly vicious Princess Anastasia, JHH is through easily, and Sanchez Lorenzo, JieJie, Marrero and Emmie L are all taken out with quite upsetting ease. And as if things weren't bad enough for Steady Mike, Elena Liquor Saver's gone too. She was seeded 25th and everything.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Davenport is like WO

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, Eleni Danniilidou's won a set.

Linz is kicking off her farewell tour in style against Kurhajcova, Ma-Sho-Na has lost the first to Serra Zanetti, and, to no-one's great surprise, Michael Llodra and Gilles Elseneer have had two tie-breaks from three sets, both of which Llod's won. Elsie took the first set, though, so there's probably a bit of mileage left.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Sequera on verge of a buttering from Brandi. Silvia Farina Elia, however, might be having it even worse, having just dropped the first set 6-3 against Abbie Spears, who's played five previous US Opens, never getting past the second round. And that's in the doubles. She's never qualified for a singles event at a Grand Slam before. This could really be quite an upset...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Brandi through fairly easy.

JCF has just dropped the first set against Tom Zib. Daniilidou-Talaja turning into a mini-thriller, Eleni squaring the third at 4-4 having been 4-1 down - after a ferocious trading of advantage, she emerges with the upper hand and now just has to serve out for the match...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Which Antonella S-Z is notably having trouble doing against MaliVai Washington's Sister.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

And sure enough, Mashona drags herself through to make it 5-5 in the second. This match has somehow found itself on a show court, but it's doing its best to earn its place there.

Elsewhere, Airwolf a set up on Ram John Holder, and working class hero Alex Bogomolov Jr. is close to coming back from two sets down to take Stef Koubek the distance.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Daniilidoesn't, and it's 5-5 in the decider. Abbie recovers an early break of serve in the second to make it 2-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Serra-Zanetti breaks back, and has a second shot at serving it out...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And she does! Now, can Eleni follow in her footsteps...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes she can!

Meanwhile, Farina-Elia gets a break up once more on Spearsy, and Andreas Seppi went two sets down against Scuttler. Then he went 5-1 up in the third. It's now 5-5 in the third. Might wanna stick a fork in that one.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Gilly Elseneer doesn't look too long for this tournament either. Smokin' Amy Frazier is oven frying Kelly McCain.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, Llodratron marches on, 6-2 in the fourth.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And now it's Rainy's turn to cock it up - Sepptic firstly pulls back from 6-5 down to 6-6 and then he goes and takes the ruddy tie break an' all. Crikey.

Silvi takes the second set 6-2 and then goes and has her serve broken in the first game of the third. This may well go on a bit, unlike Koubek-Bog 'Em All Off, which the Austrian looks to be taking pretty handily, and Frazier-McCain (The Better Municipal Parking Ticket), which looks to just be a matter of crossing the I's and dotting the T's. And there aren't any T's, either, so that shouldn't take too long.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

And it hasn't.

JMG two sets to the good vs. Rajeev, Clement takes the first against Arthurs, Zib and JCF 5-5 in the second.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and remember Catalina Castano, the girl that got near-whitewashed by NavRat at Wimbledon? 5-2 up on Pratty at the moment. Mind you, she was serving at 5-1 up a moment ago.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Seppi's just broken Schuettler again to lead 2-1 in the third. Koubek appears to be trying to see how just how many match points he can get away with squandering.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

And just as I say that he takes the final set 6-3. Well done Stefan.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, there's a player out there right now called KJ Hippensteel. I think we have a new idol.

JCF back to one set all, and after a minor hiccup Castanets wins her first ever Grand Slam set 6-3.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

And as we leave you now, our heroes are in desperate trouble, as Abbie and Seppi have both been broken back against. If that makes sense. Foul-mouthed Bulgarian teen Sesil Karatantcheva is also having a rub time of it against Kuznetsova. But now, I need my bed. Hopefully someone'll be along a little later to tidy stuff up.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Castanets has actually won a Grand Slam match before*. She's down in the third in this one, though.

I've seen both Serra-Zanetti sisters play, and my mind stll boggles at how either ever win matches... they're both rubbish, absolutely awful. Miss Washington, hang your head in shame... to think that just last week you were putting La Shaz to the sword, too.

Abbie ended up getting speared in the third 6-4... sexy lady, we'd rather see you bare your soul. Meanwhile, Kuzzie sent the Brat Sesil to bed without any supper and with only two games won.

Will Alexandra "there are predatory lesbians in the locker room" Stevenson win her first main draw match of the year? She's a set down but 5-2 up in the second against Vivi Ruano Pascual and her lovely "I rake in millions a year from doubles so fuck this singles lark" attitude.

Ferrero Rocher continues to be crap, only just squeaking the third set against Zib. Compatriot Nadal is totally barbecuing HeuBurger though.

*I went to check this! At Roland Garros 2001, Castanets beat a baby Bartoli, who had been wild-carded in. Boo-ya to all the Catalina haterz.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, I'm now trying to remember what ruddy well happened... The only one that instantaneously springs to mind - Rainy and Seppi went to a tiebreak in the fourth set too. Which Seppi won. And then he took the final set as well. Quite how the #11 seed must be feeling this morning one wouldn't dare guess.

JCF also found himself in tiebreak hell - he won the 3rd set on one before losing the one in the fourth. Then again, he took the last set 6-3 so it don't really matter, but you'd imagine he probably wouldn't much look forward to seeing Zibba-Zib-Ah again.

Straight set strolls for JJ, Dickhead, Interflora and Volandri (Hippensteel, Servenpurgatory), Nadal nearly blows it but not quite against Heuberger - breezes the first two before making a pig's ear of the next two, then pulls it out in the last.

Women - Shazzmatazz has a helluva time of it against Granville, takes the first set 6-3 only to come unstuck 7-5 in the second, and then she has to squeak the third 7-5 to get through. The Grand Slam might be a bit off the cards, then. Petra reliably gutsy yet unsuccessful against Venus, VRP sees off Stevie in two, Pratt sticks Cat, Payola takes out Nan-Nan Liu (oh, the fun we could have had...), and Dally Randriantefy is through an' all.

Tzipi Obziler beat Angelique Widjaja too.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

shazzmatazz was utterly dominant in the last three games of her match (the only games i saw), though i guess she really struggled prior to that.

does her lovliness help or hurt her with the crowd?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Right - story so far today -

Tommy Berdych carries on his Rodge-bashing momentum in outhustling Bjorkperson over five sets. Poup is out injured so Davydenko walks right on. No seeds out in the men's thus far, and Karol Beck is handsomely through as well.

The Olympic effect doesn't work for Luscious 'licia, though, as she gets herself straight-setted by a suddenly-resurgent Dani H. Ohter than that, little to report int he way of completed matches - Vento, Patty, Aiii and Kostanic all through pretty easy.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The action's still warming up out there now, biggest thing so far Mesmo momentarily 4-0 down against Julia "The Vaccinator" Vakulenko, though she looks to be coming back there. Lindsay-Lee giving a surprisingly solid account of herself against The Shorter Williams...

And blow me down if Bobby Sods hasn't just done Fernando Gonzalez in four.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not Axl Rose, by the way, it's Lindsay Lee-Waters. She's just lost the first set 6-4. Youzhny's just got shot of Montanes with consumate ease, Golovin is just about to do the same (one senses) against Kid Origami and Jeff Morrison and Tuommi Ketola are having a tie-break that is taking ages.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

And Ketola takes it, and the match too. 'ray. Almost simultaneously, Wakky Vakky takes the first set 6-3.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

w bloody s, it is u and k that you move to north america and broadcast sports

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.usopen.org/images/players/wtal281.jpg

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Mesmo's just gone 4-0 up in the second set. Oh.

Guga and Trouser Pless are having a right little tussle on the Grandstand court, the Dane two sets to one up. Kohlschreiber and Half-Hitch are two sets to love ahead of Bendytoes and Red Ken respectively. Go-Go Golovin did beat Morigami, by the way.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

There goes LLW - straight-setted 6-4 6-3 by Whoa-Oah-Oah Rene-O. Chela concedes an early break against Yello Mello.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

In other break-of-serve action, Guga's just let a rather important one slip through to leave K-Pless serving at 4-3 up in the fourth. There's a very real chance Julien Benneteau's about to lose all three sets of his match 6-1, which is no real way to say goodbye. And Chela's digging himself into a right hole against Ricardo Mello, the Brazilian serving for the first at 5-2 up...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I can now enjoy my retirement, knowing that future ILX tennis threads are in suitably convoluted hands.

I bought a new tennis racket at the weekend - they were practically giving them away at Lillywhites. If I get two minutes' respite tomorrow between organising Hebrew proofreaders and nudging Gulim 28 Bold two-liners a pixel off the letterbox I may revive the FAGOT thread.

USOpen.org continue to sin and then redeem themselves - first suggesting that Federer was "out to win the only Slam to elude him" (Huh? First 'freedom' fries, now this? I know the Reps are in town, but come on), then casting Safin as the victim of "a precipitous summer swoon" (I imagined Big Mar fainting clean away, Fay Wray-style). Revamping the IBM scoreboard so that it's slow and ugly (I've got Richard Krajicek bound and gagged in the corner to stifle his punchline to that one) and then printing a near-hott pic of Citizen Smiff (I do hope she wins). They taketh away and then they giveth a littleth biteth back.

Currently: L(a/e) Mesmer bounces back to level but Gaga shuffles horribly close to a four-set demise vs PlessToPray.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

And he pulls it off too. Pless takes his chance as well to leave Guga in a bit of a mess, as Mesmo levels at one set all. Benneteau's won a another game in the second set so now he looks a little less silly, even if he is still 3-2 down. Ken C (of Denmark) a break up on Hicham too, which is rather handy seen as how he's two sets down.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wahey! Wondering where you were...

Kuerten not drawn just yet, he's back to five-all and serving, but the jig might be up for Jules, who's nineteen days older and three inches taller than me.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And now they're into a tie-break... dear me.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Aargh - PlessIsMore up a minibreak in the t-b.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Which the God-Damned Hippy snatches right back...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

..like a rescinded bronze medal.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Only to lose it again...

(Elena D's just lost her first service game)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez - three of 'em in a bleedin' row for KP to go Nuts.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And he takes it on the second.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

WHile all that was going on, Carlsen's come dangerously close to getting back into his match, Mesmo's gone 4-0 up again, Dementieva's held serve, Bandy leads Schep 4-2 in the first, and Flicka and Joe are being about as thrilling as you'd expect they'd be. Neither Chela nor Mello have managed to hold serve thus far in their second set, 2-2, Juan Ignacio at the oche.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil K refuses to stand by Ben E. Toe and dumps him 6-1 6-1 6-4.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You can always rely on my mum to ring up on match point. For one confused moment I thought she was calling to talk about Kuerten-Pless even though (i) she doesn't know who they are, (ii) she doesn't know what it is, (iii) she couldn't watch it even if she knew what it was and was interested (which she's not) and (iv) Tracy Austin retired in 1983 curtailing my mum's awareness of Outdoor PingPong.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no, Oh no, Ken's got it all wrong - Arazi breaks him at 5-4, then goes 6-5 up... and then Ken holds to take it to the tie-break.

Julia V and Amelie M seem to be taking an awfully long time to get their sixth game started. Flicka one set to the good against Arnaud The Lesser, FC Den Van comes back to 5-4 down from 5-2 down, Mello and Chela indulge in spontaneous festival of serve-holding.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dementieva's held serve

!!!!!!!!

From the indignities of public libraries to the indignities of a dialup connection at my parents' house... as much as I would love to, I cannot join the tennis fest tonight. Have fun y'all. I aim to settle somewhere with decent internet access by the time this tournament finishes.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Golly - Nastya is on the brink. Checkifyrdadsin is serving for it at 7-6 5-3!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Kwik non-flip recap of last night:

Pless does Kuerten in 4. Haas outlasts Sanguinetti, Fedge drops set to Bagghy but wins anyway, Arazi-Carlsen goes five with the Moroccan on top, NalbsFlickaSanchezSomeotherpeople all through with varying degrees of ease...

Craps crushes Serna, Demmie does similar to Joey Beltrame, Mesmo comes up rosy v. Vaks, Maggie M minced by the Haynester, and wins too for Fabz, Dechy, Skeevo and Vinegar Tits.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

And the fourth seed has gone - out to a 17-y-o Russian ranked 175!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Which brings us on to - oh christ, today.

So far - JHH Obzliterates Tzipsy McStagger (I'd been thinking of nicknames for her ALL DAY, damn you) but loses a set in the middle, Big Dave, Rubes, Silvi, Bovo, Payo, Rova and Shinobu all through nice n' easy.

Manwise roosters - Gaston Gaudigone at the hands of TJ, PavSriSantoH-TKiefer all through mind. Which brings us up to speed...

(xpost. Oh dear. Perhaps it is good Lex can't see this right now...)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna Chakvetadze (which sounds Georgian to these ears) also finds herself in her first ever Grand Slam. 2 and 0 thus far...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Potito's got a plan - he's lost the first set 6-1 again, and then he's taken the second 6-4. He's now a break and 2-1 up in the third against Ollie Rocks.

Danii With Two I's is coming unstuck against Medina Garrigues, Kucera is getting Improbable Comeback Fever v. Hrbaty and Golmard-Henbloke and Agz-Florist have only just kicked off.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Dear me, but I've got the Midas touch where Eleni's concerned - comes back from 5-4 down to 6-5 up in the second...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna's also acquiring a habit of taking out ILE favourites - she beat Yulia & Her Purple & Green Neon Bakery to qualify...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it does sound Georgian, doesn't it? If this was an 80s satirical drama on Ch4 she'd have an Irish accent. What was that called? Oh, yeah - Red Monarch. Thanks, IMDB.

It'll always be the CCCP to me. Our boy Spud is once again showing that a broiling in the first set softens him not one little bit - bouncing back vs Rawkus.

Bah - xpost. I gotta go home.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

And that was the second set that was, Eleni taking it 7-5. Kuznetsova on the verge of putting out Pratt. Henperson early break up on Golmard. Pump that fist!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.tennis.info/images/PalmBeach3/Chakvetadze6940.jpg

That's her, that is.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of bloody grip is that? What are they teaching the kids these days?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Think the technical term is 'girly'.

KK now two sets all with Diamond Dom. One shudders to think what would happen if him and Potsie met. Mayer gets the early break v. Agassi.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps it is good Lex can't see this right now...

I can see it. I resigned myself to the inevitable post-Olympic slump ages ago, though, because I have come round to the fact that Nastya is a stupid fucking headcase who doesn't deserve my support (but gets it anyway, oh well, because you can't control your favourites). And I've watched !!!vetadze come up through the ranks very fast this year, and I'm kind of pleased she'll get all of Nastya's bonus points.

Kuzzie through over Pratt, who looks more like an elderly gerbil than ever at the moment.

Go Star Ace!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

AA breaks right back and then goes 5-4 up. Oh.

And just getting started are Mardy Fish and Michal Tabara. Mardy's held serve. As Half Man Half Biscuit might say, "You're hard."

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Mardy Fish looks exactly like a male Hantuchova.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Timsticks floats the first set under the bridge 6-2. Break up for ED in the third.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39206000/jpg/_39206880_fish_ap300x245.jpg

See what you mean, but there's also definite echoes of mediocre Aussie 80's kids TV series Pugwall...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Starey takes the third at the same time as Baldy seals the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Taylor Dent the one who looks like a shaved chihuahua?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, Dent's the one with huge hair and aptly huge teeth. Very white teeth. Glow-in-the-dark teeth.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

More breaks than a coffee table in Bristol - Flo-Mo, Rochy, Leni, Tim, Karol and Tabara all slip ahead.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Olly's figured out Starry's "Suck for one set then blitz it" tactics and countered with his "Blitz for one set, suck for two, THEN blitz again" and is 4-0 up in the fourth. It's like the Battle of Hastings on tarmac.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

5-0. Perhaps Starchy's just rying to miss rush hour or something.

Meanwhile - the damn Frenchy's gone 3-2 up on Tim! Drat!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, Dent is the one I was thinking of; I don't know why he looks like a dogrodent to me, but he does.

Okay, I was going to say more but I've been distracted by a banner ad for Ugg Boots. Someone in marketing needs to lose their job.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Serena was talking about wanting Ugg boots earlier this year, and I remember thinking "isn't she a bit late?"

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Post-dinner update - Flowery Ann wallops Andre 6-2 in the second. Tabara takes first set 6-3, Danii comes good against Garrigues, Hrbaty serving out for it, Starchy looking slightly mashed, Tim now two sets to the good.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

New In The Area - Novak-Calatrava (1-1), Massu-Sargsian (4-2).

Hrbaty through after mammoth five set tussle.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Fish break up in the second, but possibility of dream "Fish vs. Chips" clash not helped by Starchy being 5-2 down in the decider.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Fish seals the second... Olivier saute Potito 6-3 in the third. Damn.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Fifth, I mean. Double damn.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Calatrava and Novak and Massu and Sargsian are now 4-4. Kristy Brandi just about holds her first service game against Frazier.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god. I'm really slow today, and I've only just realised that HenHar contrived to lose a set to Zippy... lord.

It would be kind of amusing to see Agassi go out here.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope, Florry's retired injured after the first game of the fourth.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Pesky Frenchman now 5-2 up against Tim in the third.

Fish now easing into gear, 3-0 up on Tabara in the third. Everyone else is going with serve in the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Fish going swimmingly, surely?

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Novak takes the first set 7-5. If anyone out there can find anything interesting to say about old Jiri, please let me know.

Raymond-Kirilenko kicks off and goes with serve. Frazier break up on Brandi.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sargis and Massu are taking BLOODY AGES. They're at 6-5 now. With serve. When Massu won the Olympics did he not gain some form of mystical powers?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Aquaman looking cosy now, takes the third set 6-1. Tim on verge of AMAZING COMEBACK vs. Golmard, from 5-2 down to 5-4.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

GOD DAMN JEROME GOLMARD!!! He takes the third 6-4. Fish-Tabara taking a very long time to get restarted, Massu-Sargsian taking a long time to do anything at all. Brandi levels at 4-4 in the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like the Henperson has stepped into the Retired, Unlamented Todd Martin's shoes - every match from now on has to be an agonising, grinding five-set win.

Lisa Lisa can't solve a problem like Maria - she's dropped the first set 4-6, as has Brandi to Frazier...

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Round-up before I head to bed:

Tobacco Bar reels Fish in after a protracted struggle (watch for all those who had stellar Olympic performances to fall early here); the Henperson isn't quite ready to be elevated to New Todd Martin-hood just yet (Grizzled Todd, after all, reached a Slam final in his career), and sunk Golmard in four; Miss Kirilenko froze in the headlights of the Lisa mafia, lost the second set in a tiebreak and died in the third.

Novak and Frazier won as well but they're booooooring.

As of now, Shazza has dropped but one of the first eight games against Weird Jelena Jankovic, and there's another Massu-ively long strong battle going on as SargSarg goes a break up in the fourth, though he's two sets to one down...

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Grizzled Todd, after all, reached a Slam final in his career

Two in fact: Aus94 and US99. Again I invoke the spectre of Tim Mayotte - his performance ceiling is the same as Thamble's.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, sum up last night a bit earlier than usual (I feel like being organised for some reason):

Massu-Sargo (16th July 1919, Russia increases wood exports to Portugal) continued in its massive tussleness for ages. The fourth went to a tiebreak, which the Armenian feller took 8-6. With that momentum, he (Comparatively) raced through the fifth set 6-4 and the Olympic champ was no more. Another seed fell as Dent got cremed by PH Mathieu, but Moya made it past Delic in four.

ANd in the women's, V-Nuss overcame a tough first set to breeze past Shikha-dikha-dai-aie, while Shaz turned in another double-sided performance - first set 6-0 as though Janko hadn't turned up, and then the second set somehow goes to a tie-break, which Jelena somehow wins. And then Shaz takes the third 6-1. Hmm.

Possibly the biggest shock, however, came with Piercey's win over VRP - not so much for the actual victory but the ease with which it was achieved. 6-0 6-1, after taking out Loit 6-1 6-2 in the previous round. Might want to be watching out for her...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and it's Pierce V Shaz next, to underline what WBS just said

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if Marie (she's winning now, and she's only Mary when she's playing badly) is still the size and shape of a water buffalo? When she beat Venus at the 'Lympics I assumed she'd finally made an effort to get fit but no, the pictures showed that she was still mountain-sized. Regardless, she's beating Princess Shaz in the next round.

This is the Olympics hangover! Everyone who made the semis or better there is suffering now. Look! The evidence!

Massú: out
Fish: out
González: out
Dent: out

Henin-Hardenne: taken to three sets by Zippy Tzipi, who at the age of 31 has never been in the top 100
Mauresmo: taken to three sets by Vakulenko, who was on something like a nine-match losing streak coming into the US Open
Molik: out
Myskina: out

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Some updates: Booyakasha eases past Kosta del Nic in the blink of an eye, and Fat will assuredly have her hands full in round 4; Mesmo mesmerises Ventilator 6-2 6-0; Red Rob is two sets up against Our Darling Clementine and appears to be cruising. The other Tommy, Herr Haas, is also two sets up against Seb but 1-5 down in the third; Cool Beck has just taken a first set tiebreak against my poor Juan Carlos (come here baby, you need a hug).

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Caps pulls a Shaz - 6-0 first set, screw the tiebreak up in the second, then business as usual in the third (5-3 up). Vera Douchevina gets the pleasure of being a bit perplexed by it all.

Dani H and her legs are on the verge of repeating themselves too, lose a tight first set, then go to war in the next two, and Patty mgiht well be schuffling off. Karrie Beck is strolling against Pless, not much happening elsewhere. Yet.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Capriati through.

Earlier on, Tommy Haas did indeed lose his third set 6-1. He then won the fourth 6-1, and so Sebrebody's Jeanski Gon. Lleyton gets put through the mangle by Arazi in the first but comes out all red and puffy, as usual, but then straight sets him with barely a rumble. Less trouble for Mello, dispatching Dave S for the loss of just 5 games.

Lady Eleanor de Mentieva is granted free passage after Dechy pulls a sickie, VT's straight sets Zulu with reasonable degree of difficulty.

Meanwhile, look at Sargis Sargsian and his big ol' arms:

http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_massu_d04.jpg

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

JCF 5-3 down and receiving in the final set. Eek.

Ketola struggling to dam Ver Dyke - loses first set 6-3, but 4-3 up in the second, in between thinking of how he's going to rub the fact that he got past the first round in Jarkko Nieminen's FACE. Beck really is on the verge of winning (no, seriously), while Hannomatik, haivng been 5-3 up, is now ahead six-five with Schnyder on strike. Vicne Spadea in 'break down in first set' shocker, Flicka finding PKS irritatingly stubborn.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops, there goes Juan Carlos, as the world #97 advances to the third round here for the first time.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Karol Beck is busily finding new and exciting ways to cock this up. He's now only leading 5-4, and he's facing. Hants is going a bit pants, it's gone to the dreaded tiebreak...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dani edges ahead. I don't like Patty Schnyder. Dunno why really. Just seems a bit... average.

Flicka finally breaks Phil.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Karol Beck finally wins that elusive sixth game. Unfortunately for him, Pless had already won five. Flicka takes the first set. Tommy Enk in his element against Peya, already 4-0 up. Spaddy is already 5-1 down against Melzer.

The Legs vs. The Hair is what we in the industry would refer to as "quite close". Han leads 6-5, and is serving.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Six-all. Cripes.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

But hey, Karol Beck's through! Be inspired by your fellow Slovak!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh. Schnyder takes it 8-6. Bugger.

Further tiebreak action between Tommy and Tuommi, but that's not quite the same thing. TNQ takes the first 6-1 as Peya runs through The Starace Offensive in his mind over and over again. Davydenko whacking the Sod firmly into place at the moment.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha!

I like Schnyder because she was batshit insane for a while.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just realised she also looks like popular actress Natalie Cassidy. This isn't a good thing.

David N'Koh batters Bobbin 6-1. Berdych goes two sets to love up after taking the tiebreak 7-1. Melzer appears to be waving. Quick hint, Jurgen - Vince Spadea is rubbish.

Elsewhere, Jan Michael attempts to make JoJo leave (get out). Nothing's happened yet, I've just been sitting on that one for a very long time...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Skeeter is making Haynesie look a bit of a Muppet at the moment, 4-1 up in the first. Llodra gets an early break against the Tank. Not that that did the Rain Man any good.

Oh, and Jurgen finally takes that first set 6-3.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Franny takes the first set 6-3. That was quick. Llodra is now 5-0 up. Not much happening elsewhere - Soda Lynne fizzing up a bit, Flicka bucking all over but Kohlschreiber is holding steady.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Crumbs - all go now - Berdych with a foot in the third round, Llodra racing away with it against Seppi, Soderling levels at one set-all, and Youzhny sneaks into a 3-0 lead against Bandy.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Berdych through in straight sets, leaving Ketola only with the bragging rights: "Finished your pie, Jarkko? Would you like some SECONDS?" "Going to watch the boxing, Jarkko? Do you reckon anyone will GET KNOCKED OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND?" The larks they must have. Flicka and Franca both breaks up in their respective second sets, while Peya has a shot at coming from behind to take the second set against Enqvist.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Feliciano Lopez takes the second set in exactly the same manner as he won the first, breaking Kohly in the 11th game then holding serve. He's having to work for it, mind.

Joey comes back from a break down to take the first 6-4. Spadea perilously close to winning the second set, Angie H goes 4-2 up on Schiavone all of a sudden.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Franchie reels Angie back in to 4-4, only for Haynes to hold serve and go 5-4 up. Llodra now two sets to the good. Lopez & Kohlschreiber are going the same way that they've been going all through the match. Someone else post before I do the JoJo pun again.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

'ello 'ello. Haynes and Schiavone now back to trading games in the second, and it's gone to the tiebreak, as has Nalbs-Youzh, and it wouldn't be much of a surprise for JoJo and Gambo to go that way too. Meanwhile, Peya's really starting to turn the screw, but Tom's not out of it yet - the Austrian's 5-3 up but wavering a little. Lopez gets his break in a bit earlier in the third set, and Seppi's 3-1 up in the third. He's at it again.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

This is hotting up now - Not-That-Big Phill realises he might need to break Feliciano's serve at some point, and now they're back to 5-5 with the German serving. Davydenko shows Robin S no love, taking the third 7-5 to lead by two sets to one. Nalbs takes his tiebreak...

And Schiavone takes hers, so the 16th seed is through, just about. Seppi looking to make it a good day for erratic Italians, 5-2 up in the third. J-J serves for the second set.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'know, Peya really has been taking lessons from The Great Spud - he's 5-2 up and serving out for the match. Melzer looks to have given up against Vinnie, Nikolai nearly through, and guess what? Phil finally took the third set on the tiebreak, him and Flicka head into the fourth with all three of their sets haveing lasted at least twelve games thus far. The German looks to be lasting better too, breaking Lopez's in the first game of the set.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

And Peya completes the flip reversing to book what turns out to be a fairly easy passage. Davydenko returning for the match.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I see Pandy stomped Naff All for the loss of seven games last night. I do hope we're not going to have to rename this thread He's going to win a second title, isn't he? Or that if we do, we're as wrong as that other lot.

Mary Pentathlon vs AC MariaS and Vene vs Rick Rubin the obvious, screaming highlights from today.

(Trying to coin a decent nickname on this thread now is a little like trying to pen a original pop melody in the post-McCartney era. They've all gone.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 4 September 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Schnyder because she was batshit insane for a while.

For a while? She's still the biggest fruitcake out there. She may not be in thrall to weird gurus who make her subsist on a diet of orange juice any more, but she has still:

-Dedicated a tournament win to her dead cat
-Threw an on court tantrum against Martinez earlier this year, variously attempting to smash a ball into Martinez's face, doing the hand-fake at the end of the match (extending her hand, then withdrawing it at the last minute with the words "you disgusting bitch"), then calling Martinez a "nasty player" in the press conference afterwards
-Forgot to enter Wimbledon and was forced to apply for a last minute wild card
-Possesses hair like Ma Hingis reincarnated, which has possibly never seen a comb in its life

I like Schnyder for all the above, and because when she's not being moody she's the most talented shot-maker on the women's tour.

I still don't know who'll win the women's title. Henin-Hardenne and Mauresmo will suffer from doing well in Athens. Serena is making 50 unforced errors per match on her better days. Sharapova is worse. Venus is worse still. Fatriati's days of being a Slam contender were over years ago. Davenport's the obvious choice, but I'm still having my doubts. I wouldn't be shocked to see Zvonareva in the final.

Oh god, I don't think I could take another Dickhead victory. Let us not voice that thought again.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WOW NOW I LOVE PATTY SCHNYDER EVEN MORE

"This one's for my poor, lamented pussy."

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Fryin' tonight: Shaz? NAY! Piercey gets her Psycho on, loses the first 6-4 then comes back with a vengeance, 6-2 6-3.

Payola? CASHED! Shinobu Asagoe witnesses the draw open up in front of her in straight sets.

JHH? Actually, she beat Lisa Raymond in straight sets. Also - Chakvetadze's run grinds to a halt at the hands of suddenly-in-form Danii With Two I's, and Petrova bests Farina-Elia in three-set two-tiebreak marathon-thriller-slog hybrid.

And not only is Eleni D not doign that badly, fellow perennial twenty-somethingth seed Dominik Hrbaty's going rather nicely an' all, straight setting The Shining Star Of Bangkok. Pavel continues his silent ascent with a five-set back'n'forther against Half-Decent, Kiefer makes a mockery of TJ 6-4 6-0 6-1, Ags sends Jiri back early, Santoro fails to overcome the might of Red Fedge, and Moya naised (Mr Jones is very right about the scarcity of nicknames nowadays) in five by Rochus Superior who, after taking out Starchy in the previous round, is probably the odds-on favourite about now.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

At the moment it all looks to be winding down for the night, two matches left out there - Kuvnetsova has Frazier on the ropes in the second, and the big dark horse matchup of the day sees PH Mathieu (conqueror of Taylor Dent) two sets up on Sargis And His Manly Biceps (conqueror of Corretja and Massu). Sargis's games before have gone on a bit longer, and Pour Homme looks to be taking full advantage.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Kunetsova gives Frazier the old one-two, as Sargis stages his own little fightback ,breaking to go 4-3 up only for PH to break right back. He's now serving, they're at deuce.

And just when you think it's all winding up - heeeere's Timmers! Tonight's he's up against Ta Ba Ra, one game apiece thus far.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 4 September 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Sargis takes the third set 6-4. Henstick not looking that tasty.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 4 September 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Not much happened so far today. Some non-seeds (Koubek, Peya, Mello) played some seeds (Johansson, Robredo, Haas). They all lost.

And Serena battered Patty in straight sets too.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

If you go here there is a video of Vince Spadea rapping. It is exactly as cringeworthy as you'd expect. Tennis's very own Vinny Ice.

The juniors have begun! Among the names I see on the scoreboard are Nguyen, Fognini, Kryvonos and SCHOOFS!!!!!

Meanwhile, Dementor is a set down against Bepa but serving for the second set, which presumably means she's about to sink in a sea of double faults.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Despairingly close to coming true - it's back to 5-4 and - eek - Ellie's serving.

Elsewhere, Roddick races to the first set against Guillermo's Ass Cannery, Llodra handling Melzer with reasonable ease, 1 set and 3-1 up, and Youzh Decay-Beira Mar is a right slugfest - Russian takes 1st 6-2, Czech takes 2nd 6-1, and it's 3-3 in the third.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. La Diva managed to serve out the second set, even scoring a second serve ace along the way. Did Vera fall asleep waiting for it to land or something?

Elsewhere, our Most Loathed is unfortunately cruising. And SCHOOFS, whose given name is Bibiane, is at 5-5 against one Dominika Cibulkova.

(xpost)

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Also out there is Britain's Junior Wimbledon hero, Miles Kasiri. One set all and three two down against America's gift to future generations, Marcus Fugate.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear. Apparently when Vera lost that second set, she had a massive tantrum at the changeover... threw her racket, her bag and her drinks around then started to cry. I wish she wasn't so, well, utterly psychotic. And now she's 0-3 down in the third!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

0-4 now. Eek. This is quite some implosion.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Haaaa. Mentos tried to choke at 5-1 out, but Bepa was still crying and the whole emotional car crash of a match concluded 1-6 6-4 6-3 to the Demented Diva.

Llodra's about to win, zzzz.

SCHOOFS is a set and 0-3 down, cantering out of the tournament at speed :(

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Zvon dives 6-3 in the third. Youzhny and Berdych going the distance, Canas and Roddick not going for speed.

Also in the boy's singles - Scoville Jenkins, the feller that lost to Roddick in the first round. He's seeded 10 there and is a set up on Divij Sharan of India.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember Sultry Brown Cow Eyes from his Hen-plucking Wimbledon exploits? He wasn't around long enough to make an impact here, but Little Miss Sultry Brown Cow Eyes, his sister Sanja, is currently 5-4 up in the first against Yaroslava Shvedova, who is from Russia. Yes, you read right, there is a talented female player from that country.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going tomorrow (just a grounds pass, not Ashe stadium). Who should I see?

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to Ashe tomorrow night and am wondering who I will see. Will they take pity on Sarg and pull Andre off CBS and on to USA?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't find a schedule of play out on the US Open website yet so don't really know who's playing where, but at a guess:

The Daniilidou v Asagoe 4th-rounder is tomorrow and will assuredly be on some obscure court somewhere, but it's likely to be brilliant - Daniilidou's very stylish, one-handed backhand and great volleys like a little baby Mauresmo, and Asagoe's a very clever counter-puncher. If Kuznetsova v Pierce is on a court you can get to that'll be awesome too. I assume that Henin-Hardenne and the marquee Venus v Lindsay match will be on Ashe. On the men's side, Henman v Kiefer may well prove very entertaining, especially if you are not British and therefore not saturated with enough Henperson coverage over the years to last forever.

Doubles... Navratilova if she's playing. Also, staggeringly, there's a Turkish player called Ipek Senoglu still in (unless she plays and loses today) - go to her website (http://www.ipeksenoglu.com) and you'll definitely end up cheering for her. I have no idea who else is still in.

Juniors... Gael Monfils is superb, Brendan Evans is meant to be somewhat decent. Donald Young has been hyped from here to Wimbledon as the Next Big US Thing, but as he is currently LOSING, he may not be around tomorrow. Alisa Kleybanova is the Next Big Russian Thing; Michaella Krajicek is Big Rich's sister; Katerina Bondarenko is the junior Wimbledon champion.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost... as for Ashe, you should get Henin-Hardenne v Petrova which will be either tremendous or awful, depending on where Petrova's head is at... and either the Agassi or Federer match. Pretty good line-up.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's what I was guessing. No Mary for me. :( I can't lose with the men though. (I best be getting one of them)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I doubt they're going to put Henman, or Rochus v Hrbaty, on Ashe.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

AI'S SERVING FOR THE FIRST SET AGAINST FATRIATI! GO AI!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

She got broken. Damn.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

SET POINT AI, 5-4 up

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah, back to 5-5. Damn that Fat.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Huh. Fat comes back to take the set 7-5. Way to choke, Ai!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No schedule on the website yet, but it sounds like I get Federer and Henin. Who will be on the grandstand?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 5 September 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Asagoe was up five-love on Danilidou in the third set and D saved a match point on deuce to hold serve.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

and Danilidou breaks

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

and she holds on a cross-court winner off of forehand-down-the-line lob return.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Asagoe nervous and tired, double-faults and msicalculates to break point, where D falters but now A is more tired

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

D is quicker and more relaxed and gets in a drop shot to go up at deuce until A tags the line. D is over the line and on match point volleys long.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a bit surprised at how well Thamble is going against Son Of Donald - up 6-7 6-3 6-1 5-6. If would be galling but not exactly a shock if he blew it from here though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Not looking good for Henners here - down a double minibreak in the t-b. Anyone been following the match? I notice TH has lost his serve three times - I'm guessing that his mid-match purple match took him clear in set four and he frittered it away from 3-1 or 4-2 or something.

Ooh...5-3, one break back.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Fourth set NK seven points to four in the breaker. I bet Timbo's back is playing up now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Purple patch. I'm goin' home.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Pavel has pulled out. Now, after waiting for a year (my tickets are carried-over from last year's rain delay), I get one womens' match? What are they going to give us, mixed doubles? After 4 hours of Henman-Kiefer, the obvious route here is to move Andre-Sargis to the night session. Will they do it?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

c'mon, this is easy - move Henin into the third slot of the day session and drop Pierce-Kuznetsova into Ashe in the evening

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 September 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope you get some VFM, Gabbneb.

Sutherland's wrist popped at 0-3 (a la Boris vs Godwin, '96 - if Danny Baker ever plastered his face over a tennis video, that incident would be on there) and Hensome plopped into a qf berth for the first time in Queens (as opposed to Queen's). Next it's Rochus or Hrbaty and you'd fancy him for a semi spot opposite Fedz, Agz or Sargz.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 6 September 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched some tennis! I watched some tennis! In the games room of a students' union to which I no longer technically belong - and I am posting this from the office of a newspaper of which I am no longer deputy editor - but the fourth set of Henperson/Donald was highly entertaining. Mr Kiefer is a temperamental one... got a point penalty going into the TB for ranting and raving. Thimble really should have taken advantage.

Agatha and the Sarge was less entertaining. In fact, it was an excellent argument for abandoning five-setters... there was no point at all in the third set.

I'm so happy for Shinobu! She's such a grand player to watch. I remember her reducing La Hantuchova to tears at Wimbledon a couple of years ago.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 September 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Just watched the first set of the Venus v Lindsay showdown... any given game was more exhilarating and breathtaking than the entire AgSarg zzzfest. Lindsay won it 7-5 because Venus's forehand is still a flawed stroke (she has this bizarre hitch in her backswing which you can see in slow motion) and is thus proke to breaking down under pressure, and Lindsay cares enough to occasionally run for some balls. The games room is now closed though so I will be frantically checking Teletext all night.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 September 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Big Dave beats Queen Vee 7-5 6-4; the last game featured nine deuces.

Also, Kuzzie pierces Mary (not Marie any more!) 7-6 6-2, hitting - !!! - 40 winners and 13 aces along the way. Jesus Christ, JHH had better watch out.

Women's quarter-finals set:

Justine Henin-Hardenne v Svetlana Kuznetsova
Shinobu Asagoe v Lindsay Davenport
Jennifer Capriati v Serena Williams
Elena Dementieva v Amelie Mauresmo

Hopefully all who attended today had wonderful times!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 6 September 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess my dream of the All-Frenchwoman Final is dead.

Justine Henin-Hardenne v Svetlana Kuznetsova

nope. JHH down in straight sets to Petrova. She was pretty awful tonight - 4 double faults and nearly 30 unforced errors outweighed 9 aces and a few flashes of brilliance. The women were preceded by a pleasant mixed doubles with several of my favorites - Navratilova/Paes took out Sharapova/Mirnyi. Some nice play all around though Max stepped on Maria's toes a few times. Healthy number of Mirnyi aces but the big serve didn't go unanswered by Navratilova. In the crowd - Sarah Jessica Parker.

I broke down and got more nosebleed seats to Federer-Agassi.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Good God, I can't imagine how much Fedz-Agz tickets put you back, Gab. Probably more than the one-night only Sky dish installation I'm thinking* of getting for the match. Especially as, with the way work is, I'll need to get the dish attached to the outside of Holborn Tower and tell security I'm working through the night.

Poor Lex - he didn't even consider the possibility of a JHH defeat to BluePeterDogova. She'll be back.

So, Fedz-Agz, HennessyGoldCup-Nora, Tomas/TommyH-Karol/Lleyts, JJ/Llodra-TommyR/Anita.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(* - not really)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. I just didn't notice that the Henin match hadn't been played yet! I like Nadia as well, and she kind of needed a big win anyway, so it's all good. Dunno where it came from though, she'd been in terrible form coming into the US Open.

A Kuznetsova v Dementieva final would be nice at this point!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TAKE THAT HENIN-HARDASS

(nb I do like you sweetie, it's just smack-talk)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Good God, I can't imagine how much Fedz-Agz tickets put you back, Gab. Probably more than the one-night only Sky dish installation I'm thinking* of getting for the match.

they were still on sale through normal channels - Open tix are semi-expensive, but I'm in the cheap(er) seats

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fuck. The Demented Diva just beat Mesmo in the match of the tournament so far - an emotional rollercoaster featuring thrilling play from both, monumental displays of nerviness from both, injuries, upset stomachs and 35mph serves. The deciding factor - the best forehand on the women's tour, courtesy of Miss Elena, and her willingness to go for outrageous shots with it. Her passing shots were sublime, in the bullet-like sense of the word.

Chewitt downed Becks as well, but that wasn't as interesting.

I met a hot boy during the match and we played pool to ease the tension. His girlfriend turned up at 4-4 in the last set, oh well.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Hot boyz
(BABY YOU GOT) What I want
See cuz y’all be drivin' lexus jeeps
And the benz jeeps, and the lincoln jeeps
Nothin' cheaper, got them platinum visa’s

Missy 'Misdemeanor' Elliott (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's All Tommy All The Time out on Arthur Ashe at the moment, and Berdych's the one who's tanking - 7-6 6-1 down.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

And in the women's doubles, The Radiant Miss Raymond and Your Crotchety Old Aunt take the first set 7-6 against Elena #2 and Sweatlodge.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

And a brief glance at the draw and I can't decide whether to eagerly anticipate or dread to pieces the prospect of an A-Rod-M-Llod QF.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

This is odd. Clicking on Joachim Johansson's bio and they have no photo of him, despite him being seeded #28.

He's also the ace leader in the tournament, 66 thus far.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

and of course it's going to rain all day tomorrow. i can't win.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think my hot boy had a lexus jeep, but he shared my name and was wicked at pool.

Controversy! as La Fatriati beats Rena in a match mostly marked - as most Fat matches in NY are, hello last year's semi! - by a huge, huge pro-Jen bias. A Serena winner about a foot in was called out, and every close call in the last game went against her. Fat claims to have seen none of these (despite the replay clearly showing her looking at the first absymal call!) and gets booed. Umpire sent home in disgrace, Serena says she's 'bitter and angry'. I hope the Demented Diva is ready to get screwed by the line judges.

The line calling has been pretty atrocious generally by all accounts - another notable one was the Bovina winner being called out when she was set point up against Big Dave. It's almost as if they're protecting the American players. Surely not.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What a fantastic day of men's tennis. All the matches ended in straight sets. Hewie, Roddy, Joey and Haas are through. This sets up the Roddy and Joey Quarter-Final Pie-Chuck-A-Thon.

Shinobu Asagoe is the only non-American-or-Russian left in the women's draw.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's almost as if they're protecting the American players.

The WHITE American players... oh wait, "white" is implicit in "American", I keep forgetting.

Dan X (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, well, it is rather suspicious how the US Open officials seem to be hellbent on giving every home player advantages except Venus and Serena. I'd like to think this is just their OTT pro-Fatriati bias again (like last year's semi vs Justine) but... is the Fatster a native New Yorker? Because she and the Dickhead seem to be the US Open darlings, even though I'd expect Serena to be more popular due to being more successful, more charismatic and simply better.

And it's raining now, and apparently will be for the foreseeable future, which I'm sure will lead to more Controversy! like last year.

I really hope the Diva thrashes Fat... Jennifer's comments after the match (gist: the erratic line calls didn't matter because I've had so many in my time, as if that made it right) were kind of tacky. Unfortunately Leeeeeeeena was put on an IV drip after her match... but then again, the woman last year who had to put on one of those did rather well.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Capriati's Floridian, is she not?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

She is.

I am now rooting full-bore for Davenport.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

she was born in NYC

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno if it's been pointed out yet, but there's a player in the boys draw called Eduardo Schwank.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I right in thinking Anita has played every single one of his matches on Arthur Ashe - and possibly all under floodlights? I really hope JJ outserves the bastard tonight and blows him away in three tie-breaks.

(This is no different to how Henbot is favoured in SW19, of course.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(How was the truncated Agz-Fedz, Gab? You still get some money back don't you?)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Eduardo Schwank. This is clearly my new name.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 9 September 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(How was the truncated Agz-Fedz, Gab? You still get some money back don't you?)

good play, no great drama. lots of aces and down-the-line winners and a drop shot or two from Rogwell, and cross-courts and smashes and a beatiful lob over the head by Agassi. upper tier of Ashe empty. NY loves Andre and apparently could care less about Fédereur. In the crowd - Jimmy Connors (I think), some ppl I forget. Crowd hung out in the off-again on-again rain for an hour, with people dancing for the cameras. No money back because 1.5 hrs of play was completed, but we were invited back to watch the rest in the day session today (haha).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you mysteriously get a severe head cold and go "home"?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(He asks while screwing around at work on the Internet)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 September 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Plain vanilla update from a man deep in Bourneville:

Henman through to his first USOpen SF: 6-1 7-5 5-7 6-2 over Hrbaty. Agassi hits back to level vs Federer: 3-6 6-2 5-7 6-3 0-1...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

No breaks so far in the decider; Agassi serving at 3-4. Total match time: 2hr54.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Roger - 6-3 in the 5th. Andre actually won four more points across the match than Fedz but that won't be much comfort to him in his old age.

Federer-Henman semi. Blimey. Wake up, BBC.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and in case you missed it, your other women's semi is Kuznetsova-Davenport. Remember when the world and his wife had Svetlana down as the Wimbledon dark horse? Possibly one tournament too early.

Somehow, I find myself really wanting the Henmanator to get to the final. Just to prove he can.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(though form suggests he probably won't - he's dropped at least one set each match against fairly ordinary opposition, lost four out of five third sets... he could afford the little lapses then, but against Federer? Think not...)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the official site offers the tantalising prospect of pre-match analysis of Chewy Hewy-Funky Haas "presented by George Foreman". Turns out it's just sponsored by his grill company. Bah.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Saw the last set of Roger and Agatha. Not as great as you'd imagine, it was hella windy and they were both struggling with the conditions. Dre 20004 was playing more aggressively earlier on, while FedEx was playing into his hands with loopy, heavily topspun shots which bounced high and begged to be smacked away for winners, but he changed tactics just in time for the crucial break, and served out comfortably.

Re: Sveta and one tournament too early... I've noticed that lately, there are always some Russians who do spectacularly in Slam warm-ups, and some who do abysmally. And when it comes to the Slam itself, the ones who shine are invariably the ones who had been in a slump. Going into RG, Kuznetsova, Petrova and Zvonareva were the ones to bet on, while Myskina and Dementieva had been in dreadful form; Kuznetsova was the one who'd won the big Wimbledon warm-up; Myskina and Zvonareva did the best in the past few months while Petrova, Kuznetsova and Dementieva spent their time losing in early rounds. I don't know what any of this means, though, other than that there are so many Russians now that someone's bound to excel at any given tournament. Hurrah!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Henman has a good record against Federer and Roddick...but not Hewitt. And Hewitt has a good record against Roddick. So, if things go to form, there's yr champ. I'll take anyone but Pandy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

In case anyone's interested, some head-to-heads now we're in the meaty end of the event:

Federer-Roddick 7-1
Federer-Henman 2-6
Roddick-Henman 1-3
Hewitt-Henman 8-0
Hewitt-Roddick 3-1
Hewitt-Federer 7-5
Hewitt-Haas 5-4
Haas-Federer 2-2
Haas-Roddick 4-2

I shan't bother with JJ, cos that's just a dream, innit?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

*checks his quarter-final predictions upthread*

YES. THERE IS NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER THAT JOACHIM JOHANSSON COULD POSSIBLY WIN. NUH-UH. NO SIR.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The glimmer of hope that I am clutching on to is that JJ has a Very Big Serve, and Dickhead has a Very Poor Return. Hmm. I don't like Johansson all that much either, in fact I don't like anyone left in the bottom half. Go Fed!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And right now as we speak Mr Hewitt is 5-2 up on The German. Break point for the first...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Which he takes at the second time of asking.

Int eh mixed doubles semis, it's Stubbs and Nestor against Zvonnie and Bob Bryan. We never seem to say much about the Bryan twins. I hate them.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bryan twins... bleh. They look kind of piggy. I like Bob more for playing with my Vera though.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 September 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all too easy for the Aussie - second set's 6-2 again, and now he's 5-1 up and serving...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

But he makes a mess of holding serve and Haas is afforded a brief respite at 5-2 down.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

But by god was it ever brief - Hewitt rattles through the final game and takes it 6-2 6-2 6-2 to meet either The Big Lad or The Other Big Lad in the semis.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(I have yet to decided which is The Big Lad and which is The Other Big Lad. thoughts?)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

not only is Johansson's serve too much for Roddick, so is his forehand. he's taken the first two sets 6-4

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Joachim Johansson, I KISS YOU! And every Swedish person, too. Finish the job, you good thing, you.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 10 September 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Roddick regains serious confidence and momentum with a rapid third set and uses it to go up two breaks in the fourth. Johanssen has never played a five set match.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

fifth set filled with questionable anti-dick line calls and a big Johanssen service game but Roddick still has the energy and we're at 4 all

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

J inches up into the 140s

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

and holds for 5-4, gaining some momentum

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

R dbl flts for three match points

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Glee! Joachim Johansson, I KISS YOU AGAIN! 6-4, on the third match point.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the dickhead, as always, a good sport

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 10 September 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

if he's a good sport (sarcasm detectors powered down, so let me know if i misread) why is he a dickhead and not a big dumb lovable galoof?

Lukas (lukas), Friday, 10 September 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Because his name isn't Andy Roggaloof.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

This was the best news ever to wake up to :)

Johansson's girlfriend is Jaslyn Hewitt... so that semi is in the family!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh god, there is a possibility of another ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL involving two of my favourites and thus the nervousness last sighted at RG begins again for me... and it's a much more difficult task this time. Aaargh.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

This was the best news ever to wake up to :)

OTM.

No one doubts that Pandzer is a likeable fellow, relatively unaffected by his burgeoning fame - there are just a few of us on this thread who find the notion of his brand of blitzkrieg tennis flattening all before it pretty depressing. OK, I think I called him a few names at Wimbledon when he pulled that 'rain-in-the-air' stunt when behind to Ancic, but generally I just hate the game, not the man.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I think people hate Andy Roddick becasue he looks and talks like Stiffler from American Pie

Applepie Baseball, Friday, 10 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I am never ever going to forgive the sport of rugby... I was going to watch these semis in the games room again, but grrr the rugby was on instead. Good news and bad news, then - bad news in that I didn't see this, but good news because SVETA WON!!!!!! WE ARE HALFWAY TO ANOTHER ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL - and this was the hardest half, definitely. Final score 1-6 6-2 6-4; from what I can glean from the retards on the tennis board I frequent, Big Dave had an injury timeout after she lost the second set. Half seem to think it was a genuine injury, half seem to think it was a Sveta-slowing tactic. She certainly didn't appear affected by it - she took an early third set lead - but SVETA STORMED BACK!!!!

GO ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL!

(Stifler from AP is Seann William Scott, yeah? He is super-hot. Roddick looks like a rat. He acts like him though which is v annoying - high-fiving fans in the middle of a match, good god.)

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wow. In the first three games of Fat v the Diva, Fat has won one solitary point... on a Diva double fault. Heh.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The Diva just aced the Fatster with a second serve.

(I am getting this information from the tennis board, where the Williams fans are pissed as hell at Capriati and reporting her woes with undisguised glee.)

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The Diva is 5-0 up, I'm sure the match only began like ten minutes ago.

She lost 2-6 2-6 at RG... 1-6 1-6 at Wimbledon... maybe Fat will now lose 0-6 0-6. That would be nice!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Halfway there. 6-0 to Elena!

(In other vaguely shocking nows, Amelie Mauresmo will be the new world number one on Monday.)

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, she won a game. However, she is unable to touch Lena's serve, which is slightly hilarious.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

The Diva leads 6-0 2-1. Jentina has hit one winner so far.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Capriati is up a break in the 2nd. Now it's getting good.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear. Elena was broken for 2-3 after the crowd started cheering her double faults. Keep it together, Elena!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The Diva loses the second set 2-6 - five straight games conceded. I hope she was saving her energy for the decider, though apparently she looked a bit distressed at the crowd's behaviour...

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Capriati breaks to open the final set, Dementieva breaks back immediately. God, I wish I could watch this.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The third set, in particular the ninth game, goes ding-dinge-dong - deuce, advantage, deuce, advantage, etc. - until finally Lady Eleanor emerges on top, but the set's still going with serve. ED facing to win, though, at 5-4 up.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Elsewhere - Nestor and Knowles are men's doubles winners, Mixed Doubles final sees Uncle Bob and Auntie Vera a set up on Molly and Woody.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Capriati races through that, it's 5-5. This is getting a little bit tense now.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Break point JC...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Held to deuce.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

And again. And again.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But finally, DangerMouse is broken down, and now JC's 6-5 up and attempting to (blow her up) with her serve.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

(having looked at pictures of JoJo, I've decided it's definitely him what is The Big Lad)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

But this game was never ending that simply. Ellie comes right back atcha, takes two break points and gets the game on the second - as Super Mario would doubtless say if introducing this year's Austrian Eurovision entrants, "It's A Tie Break!"

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Going with serve thus far, 2-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

First break goes the way of the Russian. 4-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

JC breaks back, serving at 4-5.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

And immediately hands the advantage back - 4-6 down, serving to stay in...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

She does. Just. ED serves at 6-5.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

And holds! She's done it! All-Russian final involving Elena Dementieva, and we all know what happened the last time that happened...

Ah.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I got to see that last set! The cunt running the games room tried to chuck us out at 5-5 in the tiebreak but NO, we would not be moved and neither would my Elena!

I'm maybe even happier about this than about the RG final. That was historic, and featured my favourite Russian of them all, but this was on ENEMY SOIL and against tougher opponents (one of whom is a dirty cheat). Also against the crowd and the line judges.

I think this might be a better final, too - I don't think the Diva will be as riddled with nerves as she was then. I'd like her to take it, but I wouldn't mind Kuzzie Thunder Thighs winning and I certainly couldn't predict it.

ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL! ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL! ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The level of tennis in the last few games was insanely high by the way. Some points were just impossible. Dementieva was the irresistible force, Capriati the immovable object. Star shot: Dementieva's reflex volleys, pulled off at break point down innumerable times.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear. This just in - at some point in the second set Elena won a point to go up 40-15. The dozy umpire called 30-30, but corrected himself a moment later... which provoked a Capriati tantrum, claiming that he couldn't correct calls if he's made them already. Even though she knew damn well Elena had won that last point. Not classy, Jennifer, especially in the light of the Serena match.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 September 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Was there ever a point in time where Jennifer Capriati wasn't a self-serving hosebeast?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Lleyts, never one to lloll, llounge or be llate when he can ssurge, sstrive and be ssuper-early, took a llong llook at JJ's big weapon and said, "Is that it? Is that all there is to a cannonball?" 6-4 7-5 6-3. Jim Courier comparisons be damned - in this form he'll have either Rodge or Thim for breakfast.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Mike! I'm sitting up in bed right now, watching Tony Robinson turning a spit in a tudor kitchen, and very excited about the next couple of hours of this thread. Do your worst!

(I wonder what nicknames Al3x Macpherson, Dan Perry, Michael Jones, William Swyg4rt et al would have been given during a two week tournament had they been players?)

Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 11 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(Oh, I wish I could, Mark - I'm actually only posting at all because I'm at work [running into my 61st hour of the working week] and occasionally I get a respite from moaning Swedes, neurotic Turks and so many subtitle streams it's basically a damburst).

Henbot two sets and a break down to The Genius - on the way to being a six-time GS semifinal loser. Is this a record?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, there's only two other people here and one of them is married to me, so I'm going to allow myself the luxury of Five Live in one ear...

TH saves a match point and breaks with some decent returns - Fedz might be getting shaky, serving at 6-3 6-4 5-4 for the final.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

3 match points Federer.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

6-3 6-4 6-4. Bit of a tasty-looking final.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, I'm sorry Gentleman Tim didn't extend the champ a bit more. I'm also sorry you're working - what's up with such silly hours? Do you get generous overtime?

Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

so is it De-men-tee-yay-va, or De-men-sha-va? the American anchors are confused. i always thought the former, but i got that from the American anchors.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fuck was that an amazing game...

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, this is a replay isn't it? I haven't been following the tournament that closely this year; just switched over from the U of M/Our Lady game. Still, that was incredible tennis.

Reed Moore (diamond), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say almost certainly the former. For some reason based on approximately no formal knowledge of the linguistics of it all, I think that's how the Russians would pronounce the "tieva" bit. It's probably something entirely different.

Both these finals look like thoroughly cracking prospects. And Sky have the coverage. ARSE.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

As far as I am aware, the "e" in Russian is mostly pronounced if there was an "i" or "y" before it, i.e. Dyemyentieva - is this right?

Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha - I should ask my new 'friends' Ildar and Michael.

(Mark... Silly work hours: this has been going on since mid-July [though never as bad as this week] due to massive influx of work/highly dubious senior management decisions in response/accepting the comanagement of high profile A-list title which [I didn't realise, and nor did anyone else] would involve a phenomenal workload, endless interruptions and unbearable levels of stress. Overtime: I get time x1.5 at weekends [though wouldn't have come in today if it wasn't absolutely necessary] and just regular time x1.0 in the week; for PB, as middle management, she's supposed to take it all back as TOIL, but if she elects for the cash, she loses half. It's insane. Next week will be worse.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Looking at form in the tournament, then it would very much appear Airportt has this sewn up. He's not lost a single set the whole thing, and only been taken to seven points twice. Neither of them were tiebreaks. And the players he's beaten on the way - Ferreira, Arazi, Lopez, Beck, Haas and Johansson - hardly a mugs' gallery. The man has form to spare.

Fedders, on the other hand, has dropped three sets en route. Two were to Agassi, which is fair enough, but the other was to Marcos Baghdatis. He had a fairly routine win against Costa, and straight-setted a slow-starting Santoro and Henman, who'd already been through more sets than a jelly factory and didn't really look in much form anyhow. He also got a bye into the fifth after Pavel pulled out.

On paper, this is Lleyts' grand return to the big time. On court... zat, mah Breeteesh chums, eez sport, non?

And as for the women - hmm. Kuznetsova has the better form on paper, only taken to three sets once and that by Davenport. She has also beaten the women (Petrova & Pierce) who beat the women (JHH & Shaz). On the other hand, she got taken to 7-6 7-5 by Amy Frazier. She also looks to have trouble getting started - of her six first sets, three have gone to tiebreaks, and she lost the first set of the semi 6-1. The Frazier match also came after two rather routine wins in the first two rounds, which might point to Svet having a bit of trouble with 'occasions', warming up and raising her game.

This would potentially mean trouble against a fast starter.

But she's playing Elena Dementieva. Not only has she only had one straight-sets win, that match (vs. Beltrame) was only one of two where she managed to win the first set. The other one was the match against Jennie, and she then went on to lose the next set 6-2 because she was so shellshocked at winning the first set 6-0. However, it cannot be denied that Ellie is even more gritted than the average RAF Wing Commander's teeth. Losing three of five first sets means coming from behind to win three times. And she did that against Safina, Zvonereva and Mauresmo, proper big-name types. And then coming back to take that tie-break against Capriati on her turf... her serve might still be for shit, but it would appear that other than that she definitely isn't the same girl that went to pieces on the big stage at Roland Garros.

And for that reason alone, I'd give her the slight edge. She's been here before, Kuzzie hasn't. And you'd be reckoning Ellie really, really doesn't want that previous experience hanging around in her memory any longer.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Great analysis, Will! I fancy Federer and Kuznetsova though :)

Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The Russian ladies take to the stage. I had thought I'd have gone to bed, but no, parents still up watching telly, so for now here I am. If anyone in a more sympathetic timezone wants to take this up, then for God's sakes please do.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

OK. I'm in a sympathetic timezone, and I love Russians.

Opening breaks have been traded - 1-1.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really weird to think of all the focus on Elena's serve. Lots of players have rubbish shots in their arsenal, but I guess they aren't used to open ~50% of the points. Elena, of course, is fabulous at the net. People should talk about that more.

Consecutive breaks, now consecutive holds. 2-2

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's hard to see Demented Diva holding her own serve with the ferocity and ease that Sveta just did. They were both giving it some stick in that game.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What I love about Elena is that she does that counter-punching, annoying (to the opponent, it's grand to watch), slice-y (especially on the serve) sort of grinding game that Emilie Loit does so well (viz the time she nearly thwacked Venus at.. Australian Open 2002?), but she's got some bona fide ammunition for reserve when that plan doesn't work.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Commentary confirms what I suspected: Kuznetsova up to double-figures in forehand winners ALREADY. Whenever Sveta sees the bounce of Elena's servce coming, she threads that needle, baby. And is serving at 4-2 as a result. She looks relaxed but focused.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

5-2 now, Kuznetsova's serve has just yielded a second beautifully placed ace.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Elena makes Svelte-lana serve it out. Good for her.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And she gets the set 6-3 with quelle surprise, a smashing forehand winner. Ooh, Svetlana!

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This final is notable for being neither awkward like the all-Belgian finals or Elena/Nastya, or displeasingly fake-looking like Venus/Serena. The Russians seem tighter as a unit. Somewhat inspired by their bios, I imagine in their downtime they all get together to discuss politics, play chess and giggle at how wonderful it is that they're all so damn good like friends might.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Dementieva, after holding serve, gets a crack at a Kuznetsova break point. And how does she response? Only with BLOODY CRACKING ANGLES. And 2-0 it is! Three sets! Three sets! Rah!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine in their downtime they all get together to discuss politics, play chess and giggle

And then they all get naked?

I want Dementieva to win because A.) it so puts the lie to the whole conventional wisdom of 2001 when the women's game was supposed to be turning into the All-Power Muscle League, and B.) she's often described in the press as "fragile," as in "the fragile Dementieva," and I think The Fragile Dementieva is a good band name among other things.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Of little surprise, but some disappointment, is that Elena drops her serve. 2-2.

Hooray for taking the class of the thread down, spittle! Good stuff and ABOUT TIME TOO! After all, nobody is going to be saying rude things about Rodge/Lleyt tomorrow, so we've got to get some ribald comments in for the women!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure there are plenty of people with fantasies involving a naked Lleyton and Roger. Not me, necessarily, but...oh OK, I'd watch that too.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Paper bags over the heads, or no?

ELENA, ELENA! ELENA! Serving at 4-2. She's had difficulty returning Sveta's serve, to be fair, but when she's had a window, she's been brave enough to take them. And oddly, she's saved a few break points herself.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

In danger of a break here...

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

...and broken.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

WHEN SHE'S HAD WINDOWS. So incoherent.

Nonetheless, if she can keep capitalising on her opportunities on Kuzzer's serve - of which there are more than there were - she should still take this set.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

so what's the deal w/ Dementieva's serve? it's like a near-forehand. is it that she throws the ball out further than most? or does she wait too long for it to drop?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

So of course, Kuznetsova proves me wrong by holding to 15. I think if there was something correctible about her toss that would fix her serve, a coach would have been able to help her implement that, surely?

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The serve is weird but evidently a lot harder to return than it looks.

Oh man, she goes to deuce. Not good.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Potentially dismaying, the set's been in a nice pattern so far!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes the sliciness on the serve is deceptive. On that last Dementieva game point, it was blatantly obvious where it was going as soon as she hit it though.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yay! She held on the second, though.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, she dug that game out.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That stretch-down-the-line Kuznetsova shot at 15-0 was to die for.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

In wars of attrition, it's fallacious to assume that the person who holds serve easiest takes the final prize. This is a great contest.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh pants.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Will the fragile Dementieva show steely resolve?

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and nerves... this appears to be nearly over as Dementieva makes all the right moves but Sveta svcrambles and forces a long lob. Dementieva's mother has a nice orange visor on.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all-ova. 6-3 7-5. Chin up, Elena, pretty good year. You're a contender. Sveta is great and beaming the cutest smile imaginable.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all ova! Kuz-nets-ova!

(x-post, I swear...)

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone got any ideas about new rankings as a result of this? Lex?

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The commentators are going on about how, compared to Myskina or Sharapova, she may not make as much impact outside the sport. Obviously this was an excuse to mention Nastya posing for russian Playboy.

Which might be fair enough if it weren't the same people saying how Myskina, and then Sharapova, wouldn't have the same impact as Anna K... blah de blah de blah.

Well, spam to that, because Kuznetsova has a beautiful smile.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The other beautiful thing is that out of the four semi-finalists, I'd have been delighted for three of them to have won. In the past, following tennis has always been a case of those I love always coming up short against those I don't. This, though, was just wonderful.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

second year in a row that the designated corporate speechmaker can't pronounce the champion's name

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh someone give Elena a hug QUICKLY, she is breaching world standards of adorableness.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Sveta's voice is deep like a sexy Russian newsreader. "Russia is just too powerful country!".

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ha - the Russians don't play by the tv rules

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Or any rules. I have a friend who's a top amateur player and has played a lot of Russians (men, not women). He says they're notorious cheaters, call everything out as a matter of strategy -- they figure that even though they'll lose some challenges to their calls, they'll still come out ahead.

I don't know how that translates to the pros, though.

Anyway, is this the first U.S. Open winner with braces?

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 12 September 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

YAY KUZZIE! Poor Elena, but nevertheless - La Diva is the only woman this year to have reached two Slam finals (er, first round losses at the other two), so a great year for her too.

Oddity: most of the top women have far better backhands than forehands. Venus, Serena, Justine, Nastya, Amelie, Lindsay, Vera. The two major exceptions... gave you your US Open final.

Re: cheats - the only cheat in sight this tournament was America's own sweetheart.

Re: serves - ED actually had a decent if unspectacular serve when she first emerged from the nascen tennis player incubator which is the junior circuit... but she developed a chronic shoulder injury in '021 which meant that she could only do these weird slice serves if she wanted to play without pain. The injury has long gone, but the damage to her technique remains... she says she's been working on it, though.

Re: Braces - last US open finalist with them... Venus in '97? I can't remember whether Martina the Second still had them in at that point, if she did it might have been an ALL-BRACED-UP final.

Re: rankings... I will pop over my that tennis board and check what the resident rankings geeks say.

Re: tonight... I don't care how well Chewitt is playing, he's not good enough to beat Fed. And he's had tough opponents, but all of them fall squarely into the "dangerous floater" rather than "bona fide top tenner" category. And Baghdatis is just out of juniors and a Future Force.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, unofficial top 20 rankings des femmes.

1. Mauresmo
2. Myskina
3. Davenport
4. Henin-Hardenne
5. Dementieva
6. Kuznetsova
7. Clijsters
8. Capriati
9. Sharapova
10. Williams, S
11. Zvonareva
12. Williams, V
13. Petrova
14. Sugiyama
15. Schnyder
16. Suárez
17. Bovina
18. Sprem
19. Molik
20. Schiavone

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, Sveta! She's so cute.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040912/capt.xnyf09120217.us_open_xnyf.jpg

And her interview was fantastic too: "I don't know what I hate about tennis. But what I love, I mean, that you really ‑‑ like I think I can express myself in the court, you know. It's not just because it's goes like this, I play this tennis. I think I express myself with my game, you know. The same as singers sing songs what he really feels, not somebody else writing this song, you know."

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and they both mentioned Sept 11 and the Beslan terrorism... Elena asked for a moment of silence during her speech, and Sveta dedicated her win to the victims. Very nicely done.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The men are on. Hewitt has lost both of his serves on double faults.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, wow. 4-0 to FedEx already.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hewitt is tanking, Fedz serving out for the first set and the wee Aussie's yet to get on the board...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

18 minutes. This isn't going to be the shortest final ever, I hope.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

And there it is - boom, 6-0.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Already 30-0 down on his serve. I'm very nearly feeling for the man.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No, hang on, just looked at a picture of him pumping his fist.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And that's seven unanswered games. Crumbs.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

NYC really has no love for Rog, but maybe at least they'll respect him now

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Eight straight games. Eek.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

And he's got a game! I don't care! I've followed him since he beat Agassi as an unknown back in Adelaide all those years ago! Carn Lleyton, etc.

That said, if Roger steamrolls over him, that's just tough shit and you don't go into a grand slam final against the best player in the world without having an inkling that it might happen.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

HEWITT IN WINNING GAME SHOCKAH

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

'Twas a brief respite though, Fed now at 6-0 3-1 up... is anyone actually watching this on a proper television as opposed to internet scoreboards?

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am. And it looks just like you'd expect.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's now starting to go with serve a bit, but Helen's still that crucial break up, serving at 3-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it cos Rodge is that damn good, or cos Lleyts isn't?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Rodge is that damn good.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and just as Chewy puts together some scrambling and some good shots to get an break point, Federer serves two aces.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

THREE ACES.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

4-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

But LLllereylsfsewrpwton is wakign up a little - Fedge races to 40-0, but something sparks - Hewitt pulls him back in and then takes it. 4-3, but signs of encouragement...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and he had an opportunity there despite being quite behind the baseline, but he hit a shot long...

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, I'm hopefully going bed now, but will be avoiding the result Likely-Lads-Style till I can get back on this thread again...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Lleyton has actually won nearly as many points this set.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

He only won 5 points in the first set! Oh my.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Great walloping fuckpots, it's 5-5.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's a tie-break. Really, it is.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Guh! Roger, get your shit together again!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ask and you shall receive, 4-0 in the breaker to Rodge.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's Federer, 7 points to 3. I made the rather serious mistake of listening to the commentary during the breaker and as a result I hate humanity. (more so)

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah I knew this thread was missing something - Australian posters bitching about Australian commentators!

Well done Roger. Time for another bagel.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what the grotesque, superannuated pair of Newcombe and Stolle where going on about during the warm-up?

FUCKING SERVE AND VOLLEYING! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet they looooove Timmy.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

They were always talking up his chances. (This is where my eating-the-ottoman bet came from, a retort to one of their pro-S&V tirades on the matter of mr Henperson)

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It's 2-0 in the 3rd to Rodge; that first set was over in the time it took to drive from Blackfrairs Bridge to Tulse Hill. G'mo Vilas is in the commentary box on Five Live - I recommend it. I genuinely thought we were about to see (hear?) an extended slump from The Genius when he was broken in that six-deuce 10th game in set two and then flubbed a host of groundies in the next - I bet Hewey thought the same. Over before midnight (BST), I suspect.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

4-0 to Fedz in set three. If he hadn't sleepwalked through that match vs Kuerten in Paris four months ago we might be talking about a calendar year Slam tonight. I can't wait to see the size of the points gap between RF and Anita tomorrow.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

LH to serve, 0-5. He's looking at a heavier defeat here than the one he inflicted on Sampras to win the title in '01.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

And that's that. The tightest set possible, and the two biggest blowouts possible.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

6-0 7-6 6-0. Unbelievable.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Two love sets. This is pretty amazing.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hewitt won less games in his final than Dementieva did in hers!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounded like RF was just hitting ludicrous winners towards the end, rather like that Wimb sf vs DynoRod last year. Perhaps if I stay up all night Sky Sports News will show a point or two.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Believe it

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

New Yorkers appear to still like entertainment better than next-level tennis

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

That was phenomenal! BEAT THE RACIST WITH STICKS.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ROLL OF HONOUR

Men's singles: Roger Federer
Women's singles: Svetlana Kuznetsova
Men's doubles: Mark Knowles and Daniel Nestor
Women's doubles: Virginia Ruano Pascual and Paola Suárez
Mixed doubles: Bob Bryan and Vera Zvonareva
Boys' singles: Andrew Murray
Girls' singles: Michaella Krajicek
Boys' doubles: Brendan Evans and Scott Oudsema
Men's singles: Marina Erakovic and Michaella Krajicek

You will note that the boys' champion is an Unexpected Brit!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 12 September 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, is this the first U.S. Open winner with braces?

Traci Austin sported orthodonics, right?

Dickerson Pike (Dickerson Pike), Monday, 13 September 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The women's rankings up there somewhere are all correct... the men are as follows:

1. Federer

(3000 point gap)

2. Roddick
3. Hewitt
4. Henman
5. Coria
6. Moya
7. Agassi
8. Gaudio
9. Massu
10. Grosjean
11. Ferrero
12. Schuttler
13. Safin
14. Nalbandian
15. Pavel
16. Johansson, J
17. Robredo
18. Hrbaty
19. Kiefer
20. Srichaphan

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 13 September 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)


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