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What constitutes a "well drink"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's any mixed drink, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's mixed drinks that aren't made with top shelf ingredients?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

No one seems to know!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a mixed drink made with the house (aka cheaper, non-name brand) liquors rather than top shelf (Tanqueray, Absolut, etc etc basically any named liquor).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(Although if that's true, I'm not sure why there are two names for it.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a term for a happy hour drink that you are required, traditionally, to down in less than 30 secs. some bartenders will hand it to you with the standard, "well, drink, fucker."

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i was right, then.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, oh, x-post, good job, Kelsey & Dan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

See, Dan's answer is what I was guessing. So that makes me feel not quite so dumb.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

also some ppl think "rail drinks" have something to do with hard sex, but it really is about drinks on trains, just like the name. no joke there!

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

well - house brand
call - midpriced (stoli, jack daniels, jim beam, etc)
top shelf - $$$ (grey goose, sapphire, etc)

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought "rail drinks" had something to do with the bar rail.

― Huck, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it had to do with the *chop chop* *sniff sniff* *fidget fidget*.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

absolut and stoli tend to be used as well in fancier bars. despite good ad campaigns or foreign pedigree, they're pretty low on the quality scale.

xpost - i thought rail drinks had to do with the speed rack, the little hang-down thing that the well liquors are kept in.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The last time I ordered a top-shelf margarita the dildo made me POINT to the Souza. I didn't tip him.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i am so bar illiterate. whenever a bartender asks me what brand of alchohol i want, i just shrug.

― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell him Belvedere.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Or maybe Chopin.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

belvedere and grey goose are the best top shelf vodkas, imo. ketel one is by far and away the best call vodka.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"well" = "rail" =that rack where the cheap, house brand liquors are kept.

"well drink" = "rail drink" = mixed drink made with the above.

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never been to a bar where the bartender has asked what brand of alcohol I want. True, I only ever order beer or gin & tonics. So here's another question: what should be my new drink? I'm classy and articulate, what should be my poison of choice?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Mohito

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

n.a.: go to a bar in wrigleyville and order a long island iced tea. then pump your fist and go "wooooooo." also, wear a miniskirt.

― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

O.K.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard of "call"! Although it's interesting how the three-tier system is similar to the one I have in my head for beer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

That didn't go too well.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You should be a Zima man.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is right - mojitos are the BOMB.

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i know about call from doing bar work. it's a useful distinction, i suppose, in terms of pricing.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

mojitos.....hmmmm

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a mojito?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i am never having one of those again. at least not in dublin.

xpost - rum muddled with sugar, fresh mint, and soda water. but the ones ronan and i had tasted like they also contained a splash of mountain dew.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I should start drinking mint juleps.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

mountain dew and washing up liquid. also drinking about 7 didn't help much.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

juleps are wonderful. good luck finding a bar that makes them well, or even makes them.

xpost - yeah, there was something weird and frothy about them!

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

See, I can't imagine going into one of the bars that I feel comfortable frequenting and ordering a mojito. Or anything that involves "muddling." Though I probably just have bar-anoia.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds tasty though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmmmm mint julep

http://home.att.net/~uncamarvy/Clovers/clovad3.jpg

― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i stick to whiskey on the rocks.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

scotch & soda, na! kind of old-manny but classy i think

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes a cosmopolitan, sometimes a Long Island iced tea, sometimes a vodka tonic, sometimes a bourbon and 7, sometimes a Bloody Mary...all depends, really.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I am missing out on some of life.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You could also go for the good old martini.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I still need to work on opening the bar that Sarah and I came up with called "Girlidrink" that would only serve fruity (as in, tasting like fruit) drinks, mostly frozen.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

OR my new favorite: Absolut Peppar and tonic. Actually, any of the flavored Absoluts or Stolis or what have you and tonic.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like my idea for selling a brightly colored line of schnapps. They will all come in semitranslucent plastic bottles with a squeeze grip and caps that you pull on to open so the liquor squirts out, doesn't pour, and they will all be sold as "Dishwashin' Likkid." So you can be holding a glass in your hand that is full of some bright primary color, people will ask "what the hell are you drinking?" and you can say "Dishwashin' Likkid!" and hold up a bottle of what looks, ostensibly, like dishwashing liquid, then offer to pour them a shot.

― TOMBOT, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the Mark made you a pretty good julep, lauren.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom, that is awesome. I once drank almost a whole bottle of peppermint schnapps. I was the mintiest drunk. Ah, college.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You can make any vodka drink really, really great by asking for Absolut Peppar or Kurant.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolut Peppar is awesome. Dan, that sounds really good. Remember that Satan's Asshole drink or whatever we had at Jillian's? I think they made that with rail tequila. Oh god.

― TOMBOT, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Dishwashin' Likkid.

hm. i read this is "diswashin' likkud"

― amateur!!st, Monday, 30 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

OH GOD THE HORROR THE HORROR (ie I may go back there this weekend expressly to drink that again for I am a fule)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine my standard greyhound being all that good with Peppar or Kurant.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

But dogs are funny when they are drunk!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I expect I misunderstood: but bus journeys go quicker if you're drunk too.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't do Peppar with grapefruit juice, but I could see Kurant or Rasberi (or Stoli Peach).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

you guyz sure drink lots of stuff

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

is the peppar spicy?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the letters are red and stuff

― TOMBOT, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Pepper-infused tequila makes the BEST margheritas.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

My new drink is a greyhound, as grapefruit juice is so strong its pretty difficult to taste the vodka. Yeah, I'm a wuss.

Oh I think N/A's new drink should be a sloe gin fizz.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

OK.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time I've ever had a sloe gin fizz was at a tiki bar.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

vodka/soda/lemon--good way to avoid the twin horns of evil: gin and tonic

― sexyDancer, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

do you all get hazelnut shots in your lattes?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

A.J. Liebling on vodka:

"The standard of perfection for vodka (no color, no taste, no smell) was expounded to me long ago by the then Estonian consul-general in New York, and it account perfectly for the drink's rising popularity with those who like their alcohol in conjunction with the reassuring tastes of infancy -- tomato juice, orange juice, chicken broth. It is the ideal intoxicant for the drinker who wants no reminder of how hurt Mother would be if she know what he was doing."

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

jim beam (black if possible) or nothin' at all.

i was offered a great Jack Daniels cap once, really sharp, but I couldn't accept it.

I'm loyal to Brother Jim and the fam.

Been planning a visit to the distillery for years.

i have a problem drinking anything mixed with soda - whenever i did that, back in the day, i always had the worst hangovers. The mere thought of Captain Morgan and coke makes me dry heave

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Or perhaps a Sloe Comfortable Screw.

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.awa.dk/whisky/makemark/makersmark_label.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is making me real thirsty.

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

One of these days I'm going to go on a tour of all the distilleries within easy driving distance - which would be cool, considering I live in the state where Maker's Mark, Jim Beam, Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, and many many more amazing booze-shacks live.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

hey rog and nick, if you visit the distillery, be sure to ask the tourguide whether they let workers take pee breaks now.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

within someone else's easy driving distance, i would hope.

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in the state where Maker's Mark, Jim Beam, Woodford Reserve, Knob Creek, and many many more amazing booze-shacks live.

I like to imagine that they design all the huge distilleries to look like shacks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that far from it!:

http://www.cocktailtimes.com/distillery/001_1.jpg

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, so that's not exactly the distillery, but whatever.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Mecca:

http://horseracing.about.com/library/graphics/tc00/dist/distillerys.jpg

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Whiskey-tasting vs wine-tasting (right now I saw "wine" because I was able to run through 25 wines and remain coherent and I Can't imagine running through 25 whiskeys and not going straight to boot camp)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the Mark made you a pretty good julep, lauren.

yes, but that's a rare find.

in general, i drink vodka and seltzer although in winter i like jamesons on the rocks and in summer a frozen margarita makes for a nice change of pace.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Whiskey-tasting vs wine-tasting

Whiskey-tasting w. Michael Morley vs. wine-tasting w. Elvis Telecom. An even call.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

bartending has warped my drinking habits irreperably (or at least until I start having to pay for all my drinks again). I drink shots of Patron Silver, slightly chilled, no salt or lime. If I have time to mix, I drink Stoli R Kamikazes or Grey Goose and freshly-squeezed Lime Juice.

Nick should drink any Single Malt over 15 years old neat with 2 cubes of ice.

Any "Martini" that doesnt involve top-shelf gin and stirring is in danger of lameness. Manhattans should be made with Makers at least. Dont drink rail martinis of any kind. Even Cosmopolitans or "Appletinis" (a trendy drink that is no longer trendy; when someone orders one, I assume the worst) should have at least absolut in them. Rail vodka or gin martinis are idiocy, and rail cosmos, etc., will make you feel like shit the next day. Its very typical for a guy to come up to the bar and order a Chopin and tonic for himself and then a Cosmo for his girl. She thinks she is getting something special (Ooh - Its Pink!!!), whereas her drink might make her more vulnerable at night and more sick in the morning. Which is why I strongly believe in upsetting gender stereotypes. Ladies, if you want to impress a bartender, order any good whiskey on the rocks, maybe with a splash of water or soda if you need it.

In general, you should always have a few favorite drinks on your mind when headed to the bar. If its a slow place, order the most complex of your favorites, and if its high-volume, order something simpler.

anyways, rant over. nick you should drink white russians, with no cherries.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I can't f*cking stand it when people order complex drinks when it's 3 people deep to get to the bar!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

bartenders cant stand it either. especially since people dont generally tip better for more complex drinks, even though they should. Why should you tip better for more complex drinks? They generally cost more anyways, which is a deterrent to higher tipping, but... you are getting more liquid, and in the same time it took to make your two Appletinis and one Chocolate Martini ($3 tip gee thanks now I can afford the metro to work!), I could have made 3x as many drinks and 3x as much money, all while moving the line along so that nobody has to wait 20 minutes for a beer.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't this the point where the bartender dips a nut into the appletini?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

if i had that kind of time i would ;-)

though I really dont mind making complex drinks when I have the time. I'm proud of my chocolate martinis. i guess i just get snobby because people are ordering things because they are cool or whatever, and dont really know what they are talking about. ive seen bartenders make drinks incorrectly once when they are rushed, and then have to make them wrong all night because they've been told "this is the best apple martini I have ever had" even though the apple martini was made with melon instead of pucker because they are both green and both on the rail and it is dark.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OH MY GOD A MELONTINI!!!!!!!!!!! *swoon*

I am totally ordering that the next time I go out.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Nuttini?

― yum (Layna Andersen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan if your not kidding, may I suggest a Melon Ball cocktail instead? Midori, Vodka, Pineapple Juice. Yum.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

zubrowka with apple juice, TRUST ME

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

also homemade mojitos are fun to make and funner to drink

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

also the best vodka (and suprisingly cheap, too) is luksosowa. take it from me, i'm russian/polish

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

and i like to party.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm a big fan of jameson on ice too, but mostly because i'm cheap.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

dan if you add black rasberry (rail) or chambord (call) to a Melon Ball, it is Sex on the Beach ;-)

is luksosowa easy to find? has anyone tried kremlinovskya (i think i might have mangled spelling) chocolate vodka? its tasty and it comes in a cool bottle.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's around! depends where you live i guess but i've never had that hard a time tracking it down

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolut Peppar is awesome. Dan, that sounds really good. Remember that Satan's Asshole drink or whatever we had at Jillian's? I think they made that with rail tequila.

I'm pretty sure that was actually made with horse piss. That was the most undrinkable thing anyone's ever made me drink and I've drank A) a bottle of tobasco sauce B) dishwashing liquid (like real, not schnapps). Perhaps neither of those things are comparable to Bombay + milk. Which, in closing, should be n.a.'s new drink. BOMBAY SAPPHIRE and milk.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Aaron, no offense but it's really rare for a woman to be interested in impressing the bartender, in my experience.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

no i know.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

a bloody mary with absolut peppar is so gnarly. i had one on a sunday AFTER EASTER CHURCH with my mom and i could only drink half of it. and i love my liquor. the shit was just INCREDIBLY spicy. there is nothing better than a good bloody mary mix, but a mix that has a ton of horseradish(which i love) combined with Peppar?! Knock Your Socks Off!!

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

belvedere with a lemon on the rocks...

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

by the way that Satans Asshole thing was quite possibly what Satans Asshole would taste like.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

At the liquor store the other day I saw "Scorpio" vodka. It had a scorpion at the bottom of the bottle.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.skorppio.de/images/big/skorppio_web.jpg

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick should drink any Single Malt over 15 years old neat with 2 cubes of ice.

Only if he wants to look a bit daft. Bigging up malts on age alone is silly. Different malts taste better at different ages and more aging does not necessarily make for a superior drink. And don't get me started on ice. Most of the flavour of whisky comes from volatile oils so chilling blands it out like nobody's business. A decent scotch should be taken with nothing but water.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick should drink any Single Malt over 15 years old neat with 2 cubes of ice.

hmmmm. Try that in Scotland and you may get asked if you want them to piss in the whiskey too, or something similar to indicate disgust.

Single Malt should only touch room temperature water on pain of death (and I have seen some occasions close to this from real afficianados behind a bar).

― ___ (___), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Single Malt should only touch room temperature water on pain of death

Look, if you want to drink undiluted cask strength malt, that's your lookout. I prefer not to consign my tongue to a fiery death.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, adding a little water does bring out the flavour a little.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry - misinterpreted there. The only thing it should ever touch is standard jug water as sat on the bar. No Ice, cold water... People get mighty stroppy about it (ie - how long it has stood on the bar is something i have known people question).

I quite often do whisky tastings without the water, but I am pretty foolish on this call.

― ___ (___), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Got on my high horse a bit hastily there. Sorry.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

If you get the chance, read Toby Cecchini's Cosmopolitan (apparently he invented it working at Odeon in tandem with Melissa, the bassist in STP). He's obviously his publisher's 'ooh, a Bourdain behind the bar' attempt (he owns Passerby in NYC) but it's pretty good and the sense talked by former barstaff here is echoed there.

A bit of water in the cask whisky is great. One new year in Oban we went to my friend's parents in Connel, and were made to stay up until 6am drinking various single malts with his dad. Mmmm.

My grandmother made it a priority to marry the beau that made the best Bloody Mary. I understand this impulse.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, did she line them up and have a big taste off? that sounds good :)

i have learnt stuff about american bars on this thread, that is good.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, did she line them up and have a big taste off?

1930s bukkake!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark, I can't believe you dished that out because GROSS OUT is not something you take well.

If you can imagine the voice of Tallulah Bankhead emanating from the body of Katharine Hepburn, you can imagine my grandmother, and why she might have had her pick of the men at any given time (Clark Gable, who tried to woo her as a young actor, is in her 'reject pile'). Bloody Marys are a brunch drink for the WASPs of America, so many chaste opportunities would have been available.

My dad tries to open a bar every few years. His failure is that he believes people will think he is the life and soul of the party if he has a bar (the kind that has a men's slo-pitch softball team if poss, and BURGERS voila COMPLETE LIFE). This is wack, of course, but so is he (my dad = imagine declawed US spin on Phil Mitchell plus 15 years).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the voice of Tallulah Bankhead emanating from the body of Katharine Hepburn

*prepares time travel machine*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

So, like, is there a cocktail made with melted butter? Like, a buttertini? That's what I'm gonna start drinking.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the things about the Toby Cecchini book (the 'voice' is very Tracer Hand acksherly) is that he tears new assholes for people who add 'tini' onto the end of any sweet drink served in a cocktail/martini glass. And I do see his point (no offense NZA).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha none taken (it's not like I'm really going to go out tonight and order a buttertini obv.)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if Teeny drinks 'tinis?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

NZA, ever had a cannabis-infused-vodka martini? In my bar, that drink would be called a One Stop Shopping.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh wow, that sounds killer! I love that name ha ha.

This fellow I know that lives down in the mountains in Eastern Kentucky makes this herb-infused kahlua-like booze he calls "Kentucky Mud" with the stuff he grows down in his valley. It's not pretty to look at (very thick and brown, hence the name), but lordhavemercy if it doesn't taste amazing.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

A Russian restaurant two doors down from us does cannabis vodka.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

melted butter + rum + martini glass = there you go, NZA.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

So how unacceptable would it be to add melted BUTTER to my shot of single malt scotch?

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

VERY

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The mind boggles! (But it might taste really really good!) (Then again it might not...) (Ew)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

All you would need would be to add a bit of caramelised sugar and it would be BUTTERSCOTCH!!! YUMMAGE!!!

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sotch + melted butter + sugar water! It's like the English mojito/mohito!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps neither of those things are comparable to Bombay + milk. Which, in closing, should be n.a.'s new drink. BOMBAY SAPPHIRE and milk.

Sorry, but I hate milk. Which is also why I don't see White Russians in my future.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

English? ENGLISH?!?!?! Scottish, I think you'll find! Humph!

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, use a scoop of vanilla ice cream - Breyer's, B&J or H-D - instead of milk in your white Russian and I promise you will consider it your new toy.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

hot buttered rum!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm turning diabetic just from reading these posts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Kate, I'm American; we don't understand the difference.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! You're American! Do you know my friend in Toronto, then? ;-)

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

WE WENT TO FARM SCHOOL TOGETHER!!!!!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine going to a bar and ordering some sugary drink like a White Russian. First because of macho silliness re: "girl drinks" but secondly because sugar + alcohol = urgh stomachache (especially in conjunction with carbonation of any kind).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Order a manhattan, then.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't drink white russians in bars. For a start, yeesh, it would be expensive. It's a drinking at home or at parties sort of a drink. Though I overdosed on them a bit a few years ago and now can't drink them any more.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time I've ordered a White Russian is when The Big Lebowski was playing at the Brew & View (natch).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

But I don't really like milk, either. I wonder if they'd be good with soy milk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

they're not bad.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Instant vomfest! (xpost)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

why not go for the simple, refreshing choice of a gin & tonic?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a friend who is terribly intolerant to milk, but white russians are the one thing he will make an exception for and suffer for.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i am that way, too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You know me, Kelsey: G&Ts are my stand-by.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

But they're more of a summer drink. Maybe a need a good cold-weather drink.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

A White Russian with milk is Not. Good. Enough. If you are using cream you don't need tons of it either, maybe a couple of tablespoons tops if you are shaking the drink like mad in a cocktail shaker with tons of ice. Otherwise the WR Milkshake is best but I do blame it for me being heavier than before I discovered them.

Oddly I find the combo of ice cream/vodka/coffee liqueur the 'right' drink to have as one's last of the night; I don't get a hangover on one.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

With cream, it's inedible! How are you supposed to get drunk on that? I'm not even dairy intolerant, but two cream White Russians and I'm a-heaving!

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, get a BLACK RUSSIAN. Kahlua + vodka. It's strong, tastes awesomer than fuck, plus you can't NOT sound like a hardass ordering.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Two tbsps cream heavily diluted by crushed ice shaken versus 1/2 cup of milk?

I'd say the drunk part comes from making sure there's a generous vodka measure in there, and the sweetness comes from the coffee liqueur than anywhere else.

(Black Russians have Coke in them, which is the join in my thinking that tells me WR with milk is like a BR with Diet Coke).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Just ask for tequila on the (crack) rocks.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Cream in drinks is just wrong. Barf city.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact, cream fullstop is just wrong!

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I happen to enjoy barf city.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(Xpost) Except in the millions of cases and occasions when it is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

white russians are made even more wonderful with a shot of espresso.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Another silly questions:
Are they are any decent lite beers out there?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

This reminds me of the time I invented the Rum & Coke Slurpee.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

sarah waht is your defenition of light? Light in body? Light in color?
Recently moving up North form Virginia, I've found the universally accepted Stella to be a good choice for a beer outside of brew pubs. Light in body and color, and its got that nice distinct bite of a pilsner.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly I find the combo of ice cream/vodka/coffee liqueur the 'right' drink to have as one's last of the night; I don't get a hangover on one. aye. its a Mudslide.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe she means LITE, as in reduced calories/carbs/whatever.

I know people who like Sam Adams Lite, but it tastes weird to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Amstel Light is okay.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Last summer, a friend of mine and I invented the Jack & Coke float. It tastes MUCH better than it sounds.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I meant LITE as in less likely to give me a beer belly.

I love Stella. It is my new beer of choice.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck the LITE !!!!!!!
if anything beast lite to swill it up
and don't be fooled, HIGH LIFE LITE IS ABSOLUTE GARBAGE>

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I figure I'm not enough of a beer connoisseur to be too picky, so might as well get hooked on some Lite stuff.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't worry too much about lite beer, sarah. it doesn't sound like you drink more than a couple at a time, so you shouldn't worry overmuch. but if you must, amstel light is a good choice.

can i just say.. I LOVE TALKING ABOUT DRINKS.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I just say we noticed? ;-)

Yoga update: £29 for all of September (I start tomorrow at 6.45) and then you get 50 per cent off next purchase, ie another month of off-peak for 50 per cent of £40. When do you get to town?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

the first week of october.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude I hate this too. Is it really, truly, that much more difficult to say "Chocolate vodka martini" or "Apple martini" as it is to say "Chocotini" or "Appletini"? Are cosmpolitans "cosmotinis"?

The best apple martini I ever had was a proper vodka martini made out of vodka infused with apples and rimmed with a tiny bit of cinnamon sugar. It was not neon green. There are times when I think it's kind of funny and amusing to be drinking things that are ludicrious colors but seriously, I'm not sure how anyone can drink more than one or two scarily-colored martinis, especially groups of girls clearly trying to look sexy. IT TURNS YOUR TONGUE AND MOUTH COLORS!

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The one thing about cocktails and their relatives that I can absolutely guarantee is that if I see a cocktail menu and think "ooh, that looks delicious" it will invariably be THE MOST FAGGY-ASSED UBER-GIRLY DRINK IN THE WORLD. Marco out of Big Brother and Tom of Finland would sneer in disgust at my ostentatious homosexuality.

Daiquiris - classic or queer?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I am planning on an NYC visit next year and would like to see what a night on the town experimenting with drinks recommended by NYC ILXors is like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Daiquiris are classic under the correct circumstances.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

off topic (kinda), but i just got a bartending gig at a place called Pan E Vino in Providence, RI (http://www.panevino.net).
now its a chill place for the most part, SMALL ass bar, but suppoisvely its like real upper crust. Now i get to do the liqor orders and stock my bar the way I want to! which is nuts! The sad part is, THEY HAVE NO TAPS>. its all bottled beer ARGH!. now the manager said i could move over to another place they are opening up soon which is going to be a bigger bar and a bigger space in general. Do I stick with the cash and the small Italian joint enviornment, or do i move into a bigge, and certainly more lively place and take a cut in tips?????????

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I will say that it is sometimes cool to see guys willing to order really "gay" drinks, I mean why shouldn't they be able to try them too? Too many guys limit themselves by refusing to drink something "gay" but really sometimes drinking something ostentatious and ridiculous really is better than drinking a bunch of beer.

xpost I'm really not sure the importance of taps; the amount of times I or a companion have gotten a really nasty beer (flat or off tasting) due to a bad line isn't even funny, and makes me against ever ordering draught beer, personally.

At my uncle's wake, Tom ordered...something, I forget, but the woman handed him a Bud. It was clearly a Bud. So she was like, "Oh I'm sorry, I must've spaced out" and got him a new one. It was a Bud, again. This was repeated a few times until Tom was convinced that whatever beer he wanted, it sure as hell wasn't coming out of that tap and he should order something, anything, else.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

about the bad line thing, you KNOW when you walk into a dive that you might end up with a shitty draught beer, because they might not have the inkling to clean their lines, but come on, if you're in a brewery, you've gotta drink the brews! i just left a job in virginia at a brewery, and we would have people show up and order Coor's Light IN A BREWERY. come on. draft is just so much bettter....
and magic hat 9 is my new favorite beer of the north.

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I really can't drink rum. Not even the good stuff.

Ally, you were the other person I thought of as possibly loving the Cosmopolitan book, purely because of an anecdote he told about ghetto tech.

Mark, do you really think anyone's going to notice your big gay drink in big gay Soho? Maybe amongst the bears in Comptons if you're lucky. Honestly, I feel as though I have been catapulted to junior high and have rediscovered the kid who goes all paranoid because he thinks everyone has notoiced him flapping his hands in that way that signifies 'fag' to other teenagers...and nobody's seen a thing.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

We've HAD that happen in breweries. And places that are pretty reputable establishments. I mean, yeah, if I find myself at a brewery, I order the beer. But other circumstances, no, I won't take beer off a tap. Way too many mishaps. YMMV.

xpost I've seen that book actually, and was thinking of picking it up one time but I remember it being expensive, or something of the sort that made me put it back down again. I'll look into it.

suzy is also kind of OTM about nobody seeing such a thing...I always say this, it's in connection to the people who go to clubs or parties with dancing and then don't dance. Seriously, no one really notices that much if you order the "wrong" thing or dance stupid. People are too busy thinking about whether or not they're personally doing something wrong to worry about whether or not you're mincing around with a midori sour, doing the butt dance.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

or a ward 8 doin the truffle shuffle

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

midori sours are good but the people who order them are never satisfied because they seem to really just want the midori and get mad about there being too much sours mix and soda.

i dont think two cubes of ice destroy a scotch. i am talking about the small cubes you get at a bar, not the larger ones that come out of your refrigerator. also, even though every scotch is different, etc. etc., there is a certain smoothness to some of the older ones i have tried, and i just assumed that age had something to do with it because the brands, the type of wood they were aged in, etc., were all different.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

btw Ally's last paragrah totally OTM.

as for draft beer, its partially an issue of turnover. better to go with the popular choices (for that bar - some bars sell more bass than bud).

we only have bottles at my bar and it makes life marvelous.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I go through phases where every drink I order must be a certain color. I've gon through blue, green, purple, red and yellow.

My question is this: is there a grey liqueur?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

if you mixed yukon jack and sambuca i think that would be grey

― brock (brock), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and also the recipe for projectile vomiting

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone ever figured out a decent cocktail with grape soda in it?
BTW Dan the Absolut Peppar + Tonic is good!!! Earth needs more hot pepper flavored booze.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

So speaketh Kimchee Rocket Boy!

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to do a drink I called The Jolly Rancher that was vodka + triple sec + *insert fruit-flavored soda here* that tasted just like the Jolly Rancher flavor of whatever soda you used.

So, yes.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolut Pepar isn't even spicy.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

vodka, seltzer, chambord, and a splash of grape soda.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

When I am drinking beer from the tap, what is really proper etiquette wrt my glass? Do I hand it to the libations engineer for direct beer insertion, or should I let him/her/it get me a fresh glass and leave the other one to go to dish?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

handy bar sign language

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for buying me a drink.
I will now retract my claws of death.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

grey goose l'orange with cranberry turned me into an alcoholic. now i'll settle for something vaguley citrus and something vaguley red. usually well.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG MOOKIE I KISS YUO

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/images/sings-10.jpg

Let us spring up out of our sober shells.
We will soar like drunken eagles.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone else find Absolut's trademark-asserting spellings to be k-lame? I hope you al pronounce "Peppar" like George Peppard minus the D.

Suzy, like it makes a difference to me. Can't a guy exaggerate for the sake of teh funny?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope you al pronounce "Peppar" like George Peppard minus the D.

HOW ELSE WOULD YOU PRONOUNCE IT?????

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Triple Sec" is a really unpleasant term.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounds like a gymnastics move.

"She's doing a backflip into a triple sec/hip-back combo... AND SHE STICKS THE DISMOUNT!"

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Lubricious.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha and "hip-back" sounds like a raunchier version of "whip-back", which is what I meant to type)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I love using "stick" as a verb. Especially in non-gymnastics settings.

"Woah, dude, did you see that guy totally stick that DRUNKEN FACEPLANT? AWESOME!"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark, if you have to explain you were trying to be funny...

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like if you want to ask someone to wait but it might be longer than a second: "Hang on a triple sec".

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

the best martini i ever had was made for me by ilx semi-regular antexit, who is a fantastic bartender!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

also another thing, for some reason i'm really enjoying vodka-tonics these days, especially on my dj nights. i dunno why.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

huh? you lot are still drinking!

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm gonna stick it! deep insiiiiiide!"

Iggy Pop / Juliana Hatfield

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

tonic water is one of the grossest things. it immediately triggers my gag reflex.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, if you want to drink undiluted cask strength malt, that's your lookout. I prefer not to consign my tongue to a fiery death.

My tongue loves the fiery death feeling of a good neat single malt! The drink I can't actually swallow any more is rum & coke- I ruined those for myself with one night in college.

― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I love tonic water! If I'm on a non-drinking binge, I sometimes order it and pretend that I'm drinking. There's nothing better than the taste of quinine. I think I can blame my mother's childhood in Africa fear that we would get malaria.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, this one is a REALLY dumb question. I hardly ever drink wine, but for my birthday, some friends brought me a bottle, which sat in the cupboard for a while, until I decided I wanted to try it. So about a month ago, I pulled it out, and it's some Australian wine, and the cork wasn't made of cork but some kind of dense, hard foam stuff. But I used a corkscrew none the less. However, I couldn't get that "cork" out of there. I pulled and pulled but to no avail. So I ended up putting it back in the cupboard with the cork still in there. Last week, I decided to give it another go. Again, it wouldn't come out. Finally, by wiggling it back and forth and pulling VERY hard, I got it to come out. Is there a trick to these fake corks, or was this one just being stubborn?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It was being stubborn.

― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, ok, that's reassuring.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

if it doesn't come out, just push it in!

(ripe for the ilx out of context thread i know)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That thing wouldn't budge, it was jammed in there nice and tight. It was just as hard to push it in as it was to pull it out. I think it just needed some lubrication or something you know?

(continuing the out of context theme)

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, sometimes you just have to have erotic sex with the wine bottle!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucked the shit out of it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 3 September 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

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