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According to this survey, the following cities "fit" me and my lifestyle! I always knew I was a Hartford girl.

Hartford, CT
Providence, RI
Worcester, MA
New Haven, CT
Boston, MA
Portland, OR
Danbury, CT
Little Rock, AR
Washington, DC
Baltimore, MD
Sacramento, CA
Cape Cod, MA
San Francisco, CA
San Jose, CA
Milwaukee, WI
Eugene, OR
Salem, OR
Honolulu, HI
Oakland, CA
Corvallis, OR
Albuquerque, NM
Baton Rouge, LA
Fayetteville, AR
New Orleans, LA

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this thread was about something else and I was trying to figure out why only USers would be trying.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Very NorCal, Jody.

adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

*tips her waitress*

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I took this and it was *wrong*! It listed places like Milwaukee and Little Rock and didn't include Los Angeles!!!???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG WTF LOL

Sacramento, California  
Las Vegas, Nevada  
Little Rock, Arkansas   
Baton Rouge, Louisiana  
New Orleans, Louisiana 
Los Angeles, California  
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Monroe, Louisiana   
San Diego, California   
Orange County, California   
Honolulu, Hawaii   
Portland, Oregon 
Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana   
Long Beach, California   
Chico, California   
Lafayette (Cajun Country), Louisiana
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Henderson, Nevada
El Cajon, California 
Riverside, California  
Alexandria, Louisiana 
Washington, District of Columbia 
Baltimore, Maryland 
Gaithersburg, Maryland 

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Vegas all the way for you!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Guess you'll be moving to Louisiana then.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Baltimore, Maryland
Portland, Oregon
Hartford, Con
Little Rock, Ark
Charleston, WV
Frederick, Maryland
Providence, RI
Washington, DC
New Haven, Con
Worcester, Mass
Boston, Mass
Gaithersburg, Maryland
Sacramento, CA
Milwaukee, Wis
Chicago, Ill
San Francisco, CA
Honolulu, HW
Fayetteville, Ark
San Jose, Cal
Eugene, Ore
Las Vegas, Nev
Baton Rouge, LA
Salem, Ore
New Orleans, LA

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

New Orleans was my #1. Baton Rouge #2. I already live in New Orleans. Stupid fate.

adam (adam), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This reeks of marketing trap. I suspect everyone gets more or less the same list of recos. Portland was the top of my list.

Bnad, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's my recomended list from FindYourSpot.com's quiz:

New Orleans, Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Little Rock, Arkansas
Oakland, California
Los Angeles, California
Honolulu, Hawaii
San Diego, California
Orange County, California
Lafayette (Cajun Country), Louisiana
Alexandria, Louisiana
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Las Vegas, Nevada
Long Beach, California
San Jose, California
Monroe, Louisiana
Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana
New Haven, Connecticut
Boston, Massachusetts
San Francisco, California
Sacramento, California
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Baltimore, Maryland
Providence, Rhode Island
Chicago, Illinois

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Providence, RI
New Haven, CT
Boston, MA
Milwaukee, WI
Worcester, MA
Hartford, CT
Baltimore, MD
Washington, DC
Portland, OR
San Francisco, CA
Honolulu, HI
Baton Rouge, LA
New Orleans, LA
Oakland, CA
Long Beach, CA
San Diego, CA
Orange County, CA
Las Vegas, NV
Danbury, CT
Cape Cod, MA

Apparently I should never leave New England??????? (Yay that Baltimore and DC showed up so high, though! WHERE THE FUCK IS MINNEAPOLIS?????)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Mpls prbly ddn't wnt to pay the premium to be included in the list

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

cheap bastards

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

First try, privileging the Northeast:

Hartford
New Haven
Providence
Boston
Portland
Sacto
Worcester
Little Rock
Honolulu
Vegas
Baltimore
San Jose
DC
SF
Danbury
Oakland
NoLA
Baton Rouge
Long Beach
Santa Barbara
Cape Cod
Albuquerque
Fayetteville, AR
Medford

Second Try, slightly different (more accurate?) preferences, no geographic privilege:
Sacto
Little Rock
Honolulu
Vegas
Portland
Baltimore
San Jose
DC
SF
Hartford
New Haven
NoLA
Long Beach
Oakland
Providence
Baton Rouge
Boston
Worcester
San Diego
OC
Fayetteville
Chicago
Albuquerque
Frederick, MD

Two lists and not once does NY, LA or Seattle show up - please

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

so are we really all the same or are all the lists pretty much the same no matter the preferences?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

This is obviously rigged towards some graft thing, because I specifically remember checking strongly disagree for the proximity to Celine Dion question and Vegas came up anyway.

Huk-L, Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

New Haven, Connecticut
Baltimore, Maryland
Providence, Rhode Island (holla N01ze D00dz!)
Worcester, Massachusetts
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Chicago, Illinois

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, WORCESTER???? (No offense, Chris V)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

j.lu is my connecticut neighbor.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Boston, MA
2. Providence, RI
3. Milwaukee, WI
4. New Haven, CT
5. Worcester, MA
6. Hartford, CT
7. Chicago, IL
8. Baltimore, MD
9. Washington, DC
10. San Francisco, CA
11. San Jose, CA
12. Portland, OR

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

My list looks almost exactly like Dan's. I got Boston AND Cambridge. And Danbury, where I am actually from. Mostly California and Massachusetts.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Worchester came up number one for me!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like milwaukee
is on lots of people's lists,
no one's #1

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Danbury, CT; Eugene, OR; Corvallis, OR; Providence, RI; Eau Claire, WI; Oshkosh, WI; Madison, WI... and a lot more OR, WI, and small New England towns. This really is pushing for Wisconsin for me, how odd. Portland didn't show up, perhaps because I said "no large cities" -- I didn't think Portland counted!

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(* = places disqualified for reasons FindYourSpot didn't ask me about.)

1: Miami FL
2: West Palm Beach FL
3: Charleston SC
4: Houston TX (I'm not nuts about Houston, but the Vietnamese suburbs are cool)
5: Fort Worth TX
6: Phoenix AZ
7: Tampa FL
8: Orlando FL *: ex lives there
9: Austin TX
10: Dallas TX
11: Memphis TN
12: Atlanta GA
13: Jacksonville FL
14: San Antonio TX
15: El Paso TX
16: Oklahoma City OK half*: too much snow
17: Coral Springs FL
18: Birmingham AL *: grandfather lives there
19: Delray Beach FL
20: Clearwater FL
21: Tucson AZ
22: Galveston TX
23: Brownsville TX
24: Louisville KY

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

half* for Louisville, too, again for snow.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

19: Delray Beach FL

haha my grandmother lives here.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

SF was 9th on my list, though it is honestly the only place I can see myself living in the US.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Eugene, Oregon
2. Corvallis, Oregon
3. Fayetteville, Arkansas
4. Little Rock, Arkansas
5. Hartford, Connecticut
6. Portland, Oregon
7. Salem, Oregon
8. New Haven, Connecticut
9. Danburry, Connecticut
10.Worcester, Massachusetts
11.Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana
12.Medford, Oregon
13.Natchitoches, Louisiana
14.Johnson, Vermont
15.Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts
16.Alexandria, Louisiana
17.Cape Cod, Massachussetts
18.Hot Springs-Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
19.Bend, Oregon
20.Astoria, Oregon
21.Williamstown, Massachusetts
22.Heber Springs-Greers Ferry Lake, Arkansas

Apparently FindYourSpot.com can't decide if they think I'm a hippy liberal, a backwoods redneck, a chowderhead, or a GOONIE (see: #20). I am entertained.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris come live out here!
but make sure you call first 'cause
I might have just moved

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Non Americans can do this too. I got Little Rock, Arkansas as my number 1.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about all this is, it's really quite shit. I was just reading the description of Chicago:

"Enjoy breezes [or high winds] from sapphire-blue [or green, or muddy brown] Lake Michigan as you ride your bike along scenic Lake Shore Drive [I've found that a bike path is safer] or fish from a pier [but for the love of God, don't eat it].... Or spend a day shopping along ritzy North Michigan Avenue, known as the 'Million Dollar Mile' [ha bloody ha]."

Whoever wrote this has never put one toe in Chicago, much less lived here. I'd imagine the same is true for all these cities.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I included the nicknames/descriptions they gave because they're fucking ridiculous. This thing takes the median property value question and assigns way more weight to that than makes sense, though then again maybe that's the way most people think about these things. I like how my request for good public transportation got shitcanned along the way.

Norfolk, Virginia Heart of the Hampton Roads
Long Island, New York The Great Island
Louisville, Kentucky Home of the Kentucky Derby
Charlotte, North Carolina The Queen City
Richmond, Virginia Rising Star of the South
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Big City on the Plains
Nashville, Tennessee Music City, U.S.A.
Seattle, Washington The Emerald City
St. Louis, Missouri Wonder of the Modern World
El Paso, Texas Where the Sun Always Shines
Lexington, Kentucky Heart of the Bluegrass
Tucson, Arizona Sonoran Desert Oasis
Cincinnati, Ohio The Queen City
Wilmington, Delaware The Flowering City
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania City of Brotherly Love
Knoxville, Tennessee Gateway to the Smoky Mountains
Denver, Colorado The Mile High City
Chesapeake-Virginia Beach, Virginia The Southern Tidewater Region
Minneapolis-St Paul, Minnesota Wealth of the Twin Cities
New York City, New York The City That Never Sleeps
Phoenix, Arizona Valley of the Sun
Indianapolis, Indiana The Crossroads of America
Toledo, Ohio Glass City of the Great Lakes
Bergen-Passaic, New Jersey Better than the Big Apple

The idea that I would rather live in Toledo or Cincinnati than San Francisco or even my current locale is pretty sickening. God.

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU GOT THE TWIN CITIES???????????????????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Bergen-Passaic, New Jersey Better than the Big Apple

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha awesome

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This quiz is a big con to get people to move to the fucking burbs.

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoever wrote this has never put one toe in Chicago, much less lived here. I'd imagine the same is true for all these cities.

That's the color commentary, though, it doesn't necessarily reflect the logic of the quiz (and is undoubtedly not the work of the quiz's author). The quiz is just determining things based on a checklist of "does it or does it not have X," the color commentary sounds like cut and pasted brochure text about intangibles.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually wait, that's not this quiz, that's american tax policy

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

22.Heber Springs-Greers Ferry Lake, Arkansas

Wow. This has to be the first instance of my birthplace and hometown showing up on ilxor. The population of the whole county can't be anymore than 15,000.

It's a great place to grow up in, but I'll tell ya that it's been dry since the forties.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa whoa whoa CHARLOTTE NC vs. CINCINNATI OHQUEEN CITY DEATHMATCH

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Who wants to watch armies of samurai hit each other with purses?

(Wow. That might be the dumbest question I've ever asked.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Stuff it doesn't ask about because it can't really do anything with your answer:

1) Do you like the local food;
2) Do you like the character of the people;
3) Other local culture and pick-and-choose national culture questions.

Stuff it could ask about but doesn't:

1) More specific sports questions (I'm sure Bloomington got some points when I said I'm "a fan of pro and college sports," since I couldn't specify one or the other, much less what kind of sport, but the only sports available here are the ones I'm not interested in).

2) Questions about non-Spanish ethnic community -- which aren't going to be universally important, granted, but are probably about the equal of mountain biking and local NOW chapters.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The quiz is just determining things based on a checklist of "does it or does it not have X,"

Yeah, but weighted against nothing. That's probably why if you check "Democrat," it automatically wants to put you in New England.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Kenan what?

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not saying I think the quiz is brilliantly correct -- it didn't have Louisiana anywhere on my answers, probably because I wasn't enthusiastic about heat -- just that the little postcard descriptions of the cities don't really reflect anything except some intern's ability to channel Frommer's.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I said "snowy winters and big cities" and it decided that I would pick Milwaukee over Minneapolis; even though I purposely lowballed the rent/mortgage to price me out of Boston IT STILL PUT ME HERE.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The rent thing was just for tiebreakers, wasn't it? I put the rent at what I've tended to pay, and the house costs all looked low so I just poked at something in the middle.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Sheboygan Wisconsin?????

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Sister-city to Esslingen, Germany!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Portland, Oregon
Washington, District of Columbia
Providence, Rhode Island
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Hartford, Connecticut
New Haven, Connecticut
Baltimore, Maryland
Worcester, Massachusetts
Boston, Massachusetts
Chicago, Illinois
Oakland, California
San Francisco, California
San Jose, California
Little Rock, Arkansas
Santa Fe, New Mexico

DING DING DING. thanks for telling me where i already am.
it also lists the population around here at 1.5M, which is a LITTLE high.

gotta dig this question:
I love live music - give me the symphony or give me deaf.
IT's 'DEF', FOOL. IF IT AINT DEF, FUGGIT.

gotta like any list that puts both Portland, San Jose, and Oakland in the top 15.

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Minnesota or Wisconsin more sisterly?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Kenan what?

I mean, I don't want to live in Connecticut. There's virtually nothing I answered on the quiz that would lead anyone to believe that. I'm just guessing as to why it would put me there. Because I'm a big liberal?

You're right, Tom... this is an ad for the burbs. Milwaukee is not a big city, people.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston
Providence
New Haven
Hartford
Worcester
Oakland, CA
Milwaukee
San Jose
San Francisco
Chicago
DC
Baltimore
Long Beach
San Diego
and so forth

I CAN'T BELIEVE I DIDN'T GET BERGEN-PASSAIC, NJ. This bitch is rigged.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I did this a few months ago when they only gave you 3 results and I got:

Honolulu, HI
Little Rock, AR
Clearwater, FL

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Baltimore, Maryland
New Haven, Connecticut
Providence, Rhode Island
Boston, Massachusetts
Hartford, Connecticut
Long Beach, California
Honolulu, Hawaii
Oakland, California
Chicago, Illinois
San Diego, California
Worcester, Massachusetts
Little Rock, Arkansas
Orange County, California
Sacramento, California
Las Vegas, Nevada
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Gaithersburg, Maryland
Washington, District of Columbia
San Jose, California
Los Angeles, California
New Orleans, Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Frederick, Maryland
Portland, Oregon

i went down the middle on a some of the questions, like the tax ones, and lo and behold the list i got is totally unhelpful! congratulations, you'd like to live in...A CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. thanks for playing!

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The problem with the city bit is just that it doesn't really differentiate between cities and Big Cities -- but there are so few of the latter that if you know you want to live in one, you don't need an eight section quiz to narrow it down.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

LBC, tho, i should check that out. i keep threatening to move to california, my friends and family are horrified.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ok here's attempt 2:

Oakland, California
San Diego, California
Honolulu, Hawaii
Little Rock, Arkansas
Baltimore, Maryland
Las Vegas, Nevada
Orange County, California
Long Beach, California
Washington, District of Columbia
Portland, Oregon
New Orleans, Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Sacramento, California
San Jose, California
New Haven, Connecticut
Providence, Rhode Island
Boston, Massachusetts
Hartford, Connecticut
Los Angeles, California
San Francisco, California
Las Cruces, New Mexico
Chicago, Illinois
Worcester, Massachusetts
Milwaukee, Wisconsin

what's the story with baltimore?

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Portland, Oregon City of Roses
New Haven, Connecticut Home of Yale University
Providence, Rhode Island New England’s Best Kept Kept Secret
Boston, Massachusetts America’s Walking City
Hartford, Connecticut The Insurance Capital
Worcester, Massachusetts The Heart of the Commonwealth
San Jose, California The Silicon Capital
Oakland, California East Bay Living
Washington, District of Columbia The World's Greatest Capital
Baltimore, Maryland The Sparkling Harbor City
Little Rock, Arkansas Where America Comes Together
Medford, Oregon Gateway to the Pacific Northwest
San Francisco, California The Golden Gate City
San Diego, California California’s First City
Honolulu, Hawaii America’s Tropical Paradise
Las Vegas, Nevada Entertainment Capital of the World
Milwaukee, Wisconsin The Genuine American City
Salem, Oregon The Heart of Oregon
Orange County, California Live The California Dream
Long Beach, California LA’s Ocean Playground
Corvallis, Oregon Heart of the Willamette Valley
Chicago, Illinois The Windy City
Eugene, Oregon The Emerald City
New Orleans, Louisiana The Crescent City

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

They say the housing costs thing is the 'tiebreaker' but see what this thing DOESN'T take into account is that yeah I can buy a house in Norfolk for what I'd pay for a loft in Manhattan but HEY GUESS WHAT fuck a house in norfolk if I can get a loft in Manhattan, but like Tep says I already knew that, wtf I even be taking this quiz for. YOU ARE THINKING OF A GRAY ELEPHANT thanks computer AND THE NUMBER YOU JUST ENDED UP WITH IS NINE well no shit

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Oakland: East Bay Living

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

haha.

8 years on the mic and I'm not jokin'

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God, that fucking nine thing.

I wonder if cost of living was too difficult for them to include, or if it would have made more sense for them to leave it out altogether and then give you more detailed info in the top 24 about costs and incomes -- or simply ignored the financial considerations entirely, since they opens up too many blanks to fill ("is my industry represented there," etc; the way they have to ignore specifics of university offerings and only address whether there's one nearby or not, nevermind if it's Big 10 or state business school or liberal arts wankatorium).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder what the deal is with that "major medical center" question. who gives a shit about that? (yes, sick ppl, i know i know)

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Little Rock, Arkansas Where America Comes Together

I have never heard this motto before. Great, I really needed to hear some more dirty Clinton jokes from the tourists.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway i took it again as a stereotypical republican, so here's my list of where NOT to live:

Greenville, South Carolina
Hampton, Virginia
Richmond, Virginia
Hickory, North Carolina
Chattanooga, Tennessee
Raleigh, North Carolina
Norfolk, Virginia
Nashville, Tennessee
Charlotte, North Carolina
Durham, North Carolina
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Clarksville, Tennessee
Louisville, Kentucky
Greenville, North Carolina
Rocky Mount-Stony Creek, North Carolina
Kent, Washington
Charleston, South Carolina
Chesapeake-Virginia Beach, Virginia
Asheville, North Carolina
Tacoma, Washington
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Biloxi-Gulfport, Mississippi
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Augusta, Georgia

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahaha you need an online quiz to tell you not to live in Biloxi?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder what the deal is with that "major medical center" question. who gives a shit about that? (yes, sick ppl, i know i know)

That threw me too, I had no idea how to answer. Isn't that another thing where people who really need to be near one ("I cannot live without a steady supply of blue kryptonite, I must live near STAR Labs Medical Healatorium") are already going to have a sense of what their choices are?

I should have kept the window open, I'd do it again and change my answer for that but leave the rest the same.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Where America Comes Together

STL? Cairo? New Madrid?

i wonder what the deal is with that "major medical center" question. who gives a shit about that?

uh, me for one. I don't want a shit doctor.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

They would like me to live in Wisconsin, Connecticut, or Oregon based on the Nature lovin' democrat that I am.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

well, how many of them are there? mayo, uh, mt sinai...johns hopkins? walter reed? or does that just mean "a hospital." SPLAIN QUISTION FUCKFAEC QUIZZ

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

MGH

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

dan you lost me

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

'major medical center' = 'they will give you a baboon heart' yes?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

HAAAAGH

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

does that just mean "a hospital."

I take it to mean "including a teaching hospital."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder what the deal is with that "major medical center" question. who gives a shit about that? (yes, sick ppl, i know i know)

I thought about this
because of my wife's health issues,
so, uh, yeah, like, me

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

'major medical center' = old people and soccer dads/moms worried about their children. Also keeps you out of the boonies. That one needs a 'don't care' answer.

I'd like to live somewhere cheap right on the ocean (Pac. NW or middle-upper Atlantic). An idyllic seaside town just like in a Stephen King novel.

Worcester, MA - no
Providence, RI - only if someone paid for me to go to RISD
Washington DC - maybe
Baltimore, MD - I hear Baltimore smells funny.
New Haven, CT - no
Portland, OR - the city I've thought about moving to most often
Milwaukee, WI - I like cheese
Hartford, CT - no
Boston, MA - too expensive, might as well move to New York
Little Rock, AR - no way in hell
Chicago, IL - summers suck
San Francisco, CA - favorite climate, too expensive
San Jose, CA - no
Baton Rouge, LA - what part of 'fuck heat and humidity' did the test not understand?
New Orleans, LA - "
Oakland, CA - see: San Francisco
Honolulu - no
Eugene, OR - I'm not a hippie.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed page four, which has Medford, Oregon, home of the last remaining water-powered grist mill on the Little Butte River. That seals it, Medford here I come.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i was tryin to be saucy with the "sick ppl" thing, sorry.

xpost-i do wonder why there's no "no preference" button there tho. who would say no? top flight medicine, ew, no way, i'm outta here

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently, I should live in Baltimore.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the "yes/no" of the question is really "this is/isn't a priority for me."

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

MGH = Massachusetts General Hospital, which apparently was rated one of the topo 10 hospitals in the country by people who like to rank things.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently I'm a displaced Mormon who needs to live in WA, UT, or the South

Cincinnati, Ohio
Seattle, Washington
Knoxville, Tennessee
Salt Lake City, Utah
Tacoma, Washington
Carlisle, Pennsylvania
Kent, Washington
Bellingham, Washington
Asheville, North Carolina
Provo-Orem, Utah
Denver, Colorado
Greenville, South Carolina
Olympia, Washington
Fort Collins, Colorado
Anchorage, Alaska
Ogden, Utah
Johnson City-Kingsport, Tennessee
Charlotte, North Carolina
Nashville, Tennessee
Richmond, Virginia
Bloomington, Indiana
Hickory, North Carolina
Chattanooga, Tennessee
Roanoke, Virginia

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"major medical center"

Isn't this across the street from where Sgt. O'Leary, when not walking his beat, works his bartending shifts?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) or carlisle, pennsylvania!!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

As a curious non-USian I took this and it said I most fit Providence. Haha! I R NOIZ DOOD.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I am curious that almost no one (cept Tom) got NYC. Why would that be? The crime q'n maybe?

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i said i didn't care about crime.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm guessing all the nature questions

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I am curious that almost no one (cept Tom) got NYC. Why would that be? The crime q'n maybe?

not hardly

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah rudy ruined nyc cleaned it up

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I just took it again, and *tried* to get New York City (I don't care about crime, but I LOVE the opera!), and didn't get it anywhere on the four pages. It said again that I should live in Boston. IT'S A CONSPIRACY, I TELL YOU!

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

boston does have better classical music than nyc doesn't it?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

it also lists the population around here at 1.5M, which is a LITTLE high.

This is accurate for the greater metro area, including all the suburbs.

I think NYC is considered inherently not a nice place to live by these sorts of people.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm guessing some '200 greatest places to live in the us' list is the template they're pegging you into and nyc doesn't tend to figure in those for whatever reason (cost of living maybe?)(though then again hawaii makes the cut)

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

boston does have better classical music than nyc doesn't it?

it has dan.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah rudy ruined nyc cleaned it up

Bill Clinton and Bob Rubin had nothing to do with it

boston does have better classical music than nyc doesn't it?

the symphony is probably at least marginally better, but they're both very good. NYC is clearly ahead in opera.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

NYC has WAY BETTER OPERA than Boston and more than one world-class symphony and better theatre. Boston is better for choral music and that's about it (and even there you can find just as good or better in Minnesota and Texas). (gabbneb xpost)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

well i know alex ross was going on about how levine's rocking balls out in boston now in the nyer last week

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Every piece that big-ups Levine and the BSO should be read through a "We hate Seiji Ozawa" filter.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, well he was pretty up front about that

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

there's really no way for surveys like this to differentiate between "real" and "state sponsored" culture. i mean, i'm sure honolulu has a symphony and an art museum, but really, come on. but then, i'd weight that part of the quiz way higher than the average bear anyway.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

where's the best now? do Chicago/Pittsburgh/Cleveland live up to their histories?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

If you ask orchestra players, they hem and haw before saying "either Cleveland or Chicago".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

where are mannheim steamroller from?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

they're from the land of christmas.

it's all about property>> "We're a privately held company based in Colorado and led by Brent Eskew, an attorney and real estate broker. etc etc" not that that isn't pretty clear.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't believe everything I read, but I did recently read something about how the theater scene in Chicago was now superior to that of New York. And I believed it.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Manheim is a road here in Chicago, so I assume they're from here.

oops (Oops), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i totally buy chicago theater is better than nyc - malkovich malkovich!

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to do a separate thread about this a few days ago and maybe I should still, but where is there good theatre in the US? The real question may be what are the good theatre companies in the US? Because afaik, there's only one big one in NYC. The rest of the good stuff is too small for me to know anything about (I'm not really a theatre person) or comes from the UK.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

There is good theatre in Minneapolis/St. Paul!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

they do this one man christmas carol thing in atlanta every year, i hear it's ok

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah gary sinise, etc. that was years ago, but still.

xpost that's the rumor; i haven't been to a play in years, even tho i'm still trying to write one, feh.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, theatre these days is all about Chicago, apparently. In the US, at least.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.firstcalltickets.com/tf_components/images/theatre/Chicago_Poster.jpg

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

theater for the new city (nyc) has been around forever and is generally hit-or-miss, but they produce so damn much that just by sheer volume some of it's bound to be decent. i've seen good stuff there.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

man does anyone else think it's fucked up that gary sinise is on csi:new york?

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

haha in august everyone has to go see their one friend in their one shitty fringe festival show. could be me one day *yearns*

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm probably just being ignorant. I was thinking of the Roundabout. But there's also the Signature Theatre. Elsewhere, I had in mind places like DC's Arena Stage and Seattle's Intiman.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It gave me Portland for #1, not too much of a surprise. Then a bunch of places I have no interest in living, and then a bunch of places in Wisconsin. No New Orleans. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the roundabout came to mind too.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

So it's settled then--everyone's moving to Baltimore, right? Seems like it's about midway on a bunch of lists. So it's not near the top on most, but think of the critical mass. And we could certainly use the population boost.

(And it doesn't smell funny here. Or at least I don't notice it anymore.)

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't seem to google up a Canadian version.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

how's the opera in moose jaw?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

It's about 45 minutes to the east.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Baltimore ends up in the middle of a lot of people's lists because it's technically GOT a ton of the things people might ask for and a moderate climate without too much rain. Unfortunately despite all these factors it's still in a broke-ass state and running on a broke-ass budget and the best it has to offer besides the opportunity to eat good crab cakes while watching your teams lose is CHEAPO REAL ESTATE for the area. Except it's still ridiculously inflated because of the DC area boom.

I wish I could find some of the Bmore billboards they have in the DC Metro stations lately, the ones talking about how Baltimore housing is affordable. Nothing else nice about the city, but if you want to work around DC and live in a city yet don't make six figures, you can move there. This whole region has gone fucking nuts.

TOMBOT, Monday, 29 November 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved Baltimore,
at least what I saw of it
late at night last week

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd live in baltimore in a heartbeat

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd live in an apartment instead.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Think outside the box, Tep!

oops (Oops), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, yeah. Like I always tell prospective newcomers, it doesn't look like much--and it isn't, in a lot of ways--but it'll hook ya.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

WATCH OUT FOR THE BIG GIRL WATCH OUT FOR THE BIG GIRL WATCH OUT FOR THE BIG GIRL WATCH OUT FOR THE BIG GIRL

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

SHORTY YOU PHAT

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I did the opposites thing and got this HELLISH LIST:

Kerryville, Texas -- Hill Country Shangri-La
Hopkinsville, Kentucky -- Friendliest Place in Kentucky
Lake Havasu City, Arizona -- America's West Coast
Morganton, North Carolina -- Blue Ridge Mountain Home
Edenton, North Carolina -- The South's Prettiest Small Town
Marble Falls, Texas -- Hub of the Highland Lakes
Paris, Texas -- A Hidden Lakeshore Treasure
Fredericksburg, Texas -- City of Steeples
Crystal River, Florida -- Manatee Haven
Conroe, Texas -- Big Lake Country
Clarksdale, Mississippi -- We've Got the Blues
Guntersville, Alabama -- A Lakeside Heaven
Port Aransas, Texas -- Always in Season
Round Top, Texas -- Tiny Art Town in Texas' Hill Country
Efaula, Alabama -- The Bluff City
Brunswick, Georgia -- Georgia's Art Capital
Alexander City, Alabama -- The South's Best-Kept Secret
St Marys, Georgia -- Georgia's Oldest City
San Marcos, Texas -- Hill Country Jewel
Wimberly, Texas -- A Taste of Texas Hill Country
Atlantic Beach-Morehead City, North Carolina -- Gems of the Eastern Coast
Page, Arizona -- Heart of the Grand Circle
Fort Walton Beach, Florida -- The Emerald Coast
Deland, Florida -- The Athens of Florida

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

If I were to move to the States, apparently my top spots would be:

Knoxville, Tennessee
Jacksonville, Florida
Carlisle, Pennsylvania
Albany, New York
Chattanooga, Tennessee
Cincinatti, Ohio
Asheville, North Carolina
Tacoma, Washington
Seattle, Washington
Gainesville, Florida
Johnson City-Kingsport, Tennessee
Tallahassee, Florida
Biloxi-Gulfport, Mississippi
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Norfolk, Virginia
Charleston, South Carolina
Olympia, Washington
Clarksville, Tennessee
Kent, Washington
Springfield, Missouri
Roanoke, Virginia
Bloomington, Indiana
Salt Lake City, Utah
Jackson, Mississippi

This seems very different to everyone else's list so far. I'm not sure what to make of this.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, opposites. Here're Bizarro Tep's topspot s:


1: Littleton NH (HA! I've been there. Lots.)
2: Windham NY
3: Saranac Lake NY
4: Peterborough NH (ditto)
5: Metaline Falls WA (a mining town of 223 people)
6: Johnstown PA
7: Glens Falls NY
8: Jamestown NY
9: Plymouth NH (been here, of course)
10: Easton PA
11: Leavenworth WA
12: Lebanon NH (yep)
13: Plattsburgh NY
14: Seward AK
15: Lewisburg PA
16: Lewiston ME (this is where the Moxie festival is, isn't it?)
17: Concord NH (looks like Bloomington with more snow and inferior bacon)
18: Corning NY
19: Camden ME (they have opera, there you go)
20: Wenatchee WA
21: Mount Vernon WA
22: Hanover NH (home of Dartmouth)
23: Homer-Kenai Peninsula AK (coolass name)
24: Peekskill NY

That's pretty accurate, as far as I can tell.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

peekskill!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Doomed to the Bizarro list because of its winters -- relocate New York state to the Gulf Coast and I'm there.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

bah. hudson valley winters are beautiful.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

But they're still winters! I don't mind being a guest in winter, but I don't want to host any more of them.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I also ran my "opposites" top spots and got a season of City Confidental:

Round Top, Texas - Tiny Art Town In Texas' Hill Country
Lake Havasu City, Arizonas - Arizona's West Coast
Conroe, Texas - Big Lake Country
Clarksdale, Mississippi - We've Got the Blues
Crystal River, Florida - Manatee Haven
Hopkinsville, Kentucky - Friendliest Place in Kentucky
Fredericksburg, Texas - City of Steeples
Kerrville, Texas - Hill Country Shangri-la
St. Marys, Georgia - Georgia's Oldest City
Eufaula, Alabama - The Bluff City
Green Valley, Arizona - Sunshine Paradise
Bisbee, Arizona - The Copper Queen
Marble Falls, Texas - Hub of the Highland Lakes
Port Aransas, Texas - Always in Season
New Smyrna Beach, Florida - Orlando's Beach
St Augustine, Florida - America's First City
Brunswick, Georgia - Georgia's Art Capital
Alexander City, Alabama - The South's Best-Kept Secret
Wimberley, Texas - A Taste of Texas Hill Country
San Marcos, Texas - Hill Country Jewel
Ormond Beach, Florida - The Secret Beach
Deland, Florida - The Athens of Florida
Guntersville, Alabama - A Lakeside Haven
Paris, Tennessee - A Hidden Lakeshore Treasure

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Monday, 29 November 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Kerryville, Texas

I wonder what kind of stupid shit they did during the election.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Bizarro me (who can't stand any climate but desert): Phoenix; Yuma, AZ; Austin; San Antonio; Memphis; Tampa; Tucson; Dallas; Fort Worth (separately?); Scottsdale, AZ; Orlando; OKC; El Paso; Houston; and other similar places I'm glad I don't live in.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: Freedomville

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

here's my bizarro-list:

Lake Havasu City, AZ
Fountain Hills, AZ
San Marcos, TX
Kerrville, TX
Guntersville, AL
Crystal River, FL
Page, AZ
Bisbee, AZ
Conroe, TX
Marble Falls, TX
Deland, FL
Clarksdale, MS
Green Valley, AZ
Fredericksburg, TX
Wimberley, TX
Morganton, NC
Alexander City, AL
Paris, TN
Gainesville, GA
Round Top, TX
Oxford, MS
Hopkinsville, KY
Mount Dora, FL
Port Aransas, TX

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah gainesville ga does suck

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Bisbee keeps popping up on the bizarro lists but I'd move there in a second. Don't tell me that it sucks lalala i can't hear you

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i don't think there's a single blue state on my bizarro list!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

here's my bizarro-list:
...
Oxford, MS

:-( It usually pops up on those "best places to live" surveys (for it's size).

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

god yeah - oxford, ms is fucking gorgeous, great great city. that somehow it could end up on the same list as gainesville ga mean's something is out of wack here.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe one of her stipulations was "Cold beer must be sold in package stores."

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Oxford where Ole Miss is?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

rowan oak's there

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow my first FIVE CITIES are places I've been to numerous times and DESPISED WITH ALL OF MY HEART.

1. New Haven, CT
2. Providence, RI
3. Boston, MA
4. Worchester, MA
5. Hartford, CT
6. Sacramento, CA
7. Danbury, CT
8. San Jose, CA
9. Los Angeles, CA
10. Honolulu, HI
11. Milwaukee, WI
12. Baltimore, MD
13. Oakland, CA
14. San Francisco, CA
15. Chicago, IL
16. Las Vegas, NV
17. Portland, OR
18. Stamford-Norwalk, CT (WHAT THE FUCK? I feel like I accidentally clicked the "Connecticut Shitholes" Option)
19. San Diego, CA
20. Orange County, CA
21. Cape Cod, MA
22. New Orleans, LA
23. Baton Rouge, LA
24. Cambridge, MA

Is there any way to tell the quiz that when you say you "agree" with the idea that you enjoy professional sports, you "disagree" with the idea that you enjoy profession sports from BOSTON?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Providence, Rhode Island
New Haven, Connecticut
Baltimore, Maryland
Hartford, Connecticut
Worcester, Massachusetts
Portland, Oregon
Boston, Massachusetts
Charleston, West Virginia
Champaign-Urbana, Illinois
Frederick, Maryland
Chicago, Illinois
Little Rock, Arkansas
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Gaithersburg, Maryland
Eugene, Oregon
Corvallis, Oregon
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
New Orleans, Louisiana
Salem, Oregon
Madison, Wisconsin
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
Danbury, Connecticut
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
Stamford-Norwalk, Connecticut

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

This is funny funny funny, considering this thread.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Worcester, Massachusetts    The Heart of the Commonwealth
Hartford, Connecticut    The Insurance Capital
Boston, Massachusetts    America’s Walking City
Providence, Rhode Island    New England’s Best Kept Kept Secret
Milwaukee, Wisconsin    The Genuine American City
Chicago, Illinois    The Windy City
Washington, District of Columbia    The World's Greatest Capital
San Francisco, California    The Golden Gate City
San Jose, California    The Silicon Capital
Baltimore, Maryland    The Sparkling Harbor City
Little Rock, Arkansas    Where America Comes Together
Oakland, California    East Bay Living
Sacramento, California    The River City
Portland, Oregon    City of Roses
Las Vegas, Nevada    Entertainment Capital of the World
Cambridge, Massachusetts    Boston’s Spirited Sister
Stamford-Norwalk, Connecticut    Connecticut’s Key Cities
San Diego, California    California’s First City
Orange County, California    Live The California Dream
Baton Rouge, Louisiana    The Cajun Capital
New Orleans, Louisiana    The Crescent City
Danbury, Connecticut    Small-Town Charm Near the Big Apple
Honolulu, Hawaii    America’s Tropical Paradise

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

If I move to the states, I should move to Oregon. But I knew that already.

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a more lethal sounding phrase than "hill country"?

g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi there! Apparently I'm a Midwest-ish girl at heart.

1.  Pittsburgh, PA
2.  Carlisle, PA
3.  Cleveland, OH
4.  Detroit, MI
5.  Toledo, OH
6.  Des Moines, IA
7.  Omaha, NE
8.  Indianapolis, IN
9.  Duluth, MN
10. Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN
11. Erie, PA
12. Fort Wayne, IN
13. St. Cloud, MN
14. Rochester, NY
15. Buffalo, NY
16. Grand Rapids, MI
17. Mansfield, OH
18. Kansas City, MO
19. Knoxville, TN
20. Cedar Rapids, IA
21. Fargo, ND-Moorhead, MN
22. Bismarck, ND
23. Ogden, UT
24. Sioux Falls, SD

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Sparkling Harbor City"? I've lived in Baltimore for nearly 10 years and never heard that one.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

xposted: #1 might be a good place to move to, though. I don't know. It's certainly in a part of the country I have NO EARTHLY IDEA about, i.e. the Northeast. I'm kinda disturbed about # 16, though, because a good friend of mine moved as far away from GR as she could and she seems not to really have a charitable thing to say about it, uh, aside from the stuff she's told me about Meijer. I do have another friend who lives in # 6, though. Hm.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(Apologies for overuse of the word "though".)

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

New Haven, Connecticut
Boston, Massachusetts
Providence, Rhode Island
Baltimore, Maryland
Worcester, Massachusetts
Hartford, Connecticut
Los Angeles, California
Long Beach, California
Las Vegas, Nevada
Honolulu, Hawaii
Chicago, Illinois
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
San Diego, California
Orange County, California
New Orleans, Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Washington, District of Columbia
Little Rock, Arkansas
San Jose, California
Oakland, California
Portland, Oregon
Danbury, Connecticut
Cambridge, Massachusetts
Stamford-Norwalk, Connecticut

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

pennsylvania and upstate/western new york (and ohio too) are technically the northeast, but spiritually they're midwestern.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Then, take two:

Hi there! Apparently I'm a Midwest-ish girl at heart.

Etc., etc., etc.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(And I had no idea OH was "technically the northeast" -- I was counting that too as a part of the Midwest!)

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Little Rock
2. Sacramento
3. Honolulu
4. Portland
5. Las Vegas
6. New Orleans
7. Baton Rouge
8. Baltimore
9. DC
10. Shreveport

I was kind of surprised I had so many matches in Louisiana. I put no preference on the geographic region question.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Although I guess my stated preference for warm weather probably cinched it for the southern states.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

ohio is one of those either/or states (the same way kentucky could either be the south or the midwest), but it's on eastern standard time.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, my strong agreement with the necessity of a beach is probably what got Cali and Hawaii on mine.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I said I liked beaches too, I have no idea how it decided I would want to live in the midwest at all. Or Phoenix. Or half that shit on my list.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

hey yo jody beth
kentucky by any stretch
is NOT the midwest

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmmm, Shreveport or Honolulu? Shreveport or Honolulu?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Phoenix has lots of sand & sun - that's kind of like going to the beach, you just have to close your eyes and imagine the water.

xpost

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahahaha....

1.) Providence, RI
2.) Newport, RI
3.) Westerly, RI
4.) Rehobeth, MA
5.) Eugene Oregon

Minus the Oregon the other answers perfectly triangulate my home!

Remy Snush (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

kentucky is too far north to be the south!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think of Nebraska as being more midwestern than Ohio or Kentucky.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/ohc/nature/geograph/images/naturalregions.gif

'midwest' has no accepted definition - to some it's the Eastern Mississippi basin, to some it's the Western, to some it's the center, to some it's the whole thing

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but jbr
you have been to louisville--
that's south all the way:

people smile too much,
smoke too many cigarettes,
for midwesternness

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnson, Vermont.

I live there.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Honolulu is America's tropical paradise and Baltimore is the sparkling harbor city, but Hartford is the insurance capital!!! I'm SO there!

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm. With slightly nuanced answers (e.g. taking away my dislike of beaches and including more faiths in the "I'd like to live near houses of worship for the following faiths" answer), I get the following:

1.  Providence, RI
2.  Milwaukee, WI
3.  New Haven, CT
4.  Baltimore, MD
5.  Worcester, MA (uh, Velveteen Bingo Chris... ?)
6.  Hartford, CT (ha, I *knew* it was "the insurance capital"!!)
7.  Portland, OR
8.  Little Rock, AR (ugh -- my least favorite teacher of all time was from there)
9.  Boston, MA
10. Washington, D.C.
11. San Francisco, CA (AWESOME! I love it there.)
12. Chicago, IL (hahahaha, the TITTWIS capital!)
13. San Jose, CA (I love San Jose!)
14. Oakland, CA (um....)
15. Baton Rouge, LA (oh noooo, back to Humidity Country!)
16. New Orleans, LA (ditto)
17. Corvallis, OR
18. Eugene, OR
19. Sacramento, CA
20. San Diego, CA (what part of "I hate hot weather" did they not understand?)
21. Salem, OR
22. Medford, OR
23. Eau Claire, WI
24. Oshkosh-Appleton/Neenah, WI

Interesting to see so many OR listings. I've always wanted to go there. I mean, I've flown over it plenty of times, but obv airplane views leave much to be desired.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm kinda surprised so many of you are getting so many listings from Hot Weather/Humidity Country! It may be cool sometimes to look for Christmas trees while wearing short sleeved blouses and t-shirts and jeans, but it's hard to get into the holiday spirit when a glass of iced tea is a better beverage choice than a cup of hot chocolate.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

dee you ain't lived in the snow! trust me - that shit suxx! i hear pittsburgh's hella cool even if there baseball team is ran by morons. pitt's going to a bcs.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to live somewhere cheap right on the ocean (Pac. NW or middle-upper Atlantic).

If you want to live right on the ocean, Portland OR is out. It's at least an hour to the coast.

Seattle is also not on the ocean- we're on the Puget Sound, but not the Pacific. Vancouver is also not so much on the Pacific... you'd have to move out to the Olympic Penninsula or something.

lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

it's funny how the cold-weather-phobic posters aren't differentiating between a vermont winter and (for example) an nyc winter. vermont winters are brutal, but where i live we get at most a couple of really cold days and a little slush on the ground.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah every few years we have a blizzard, but we pay the city to clean the mess up for us.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i've done a chicago winter, i've done iceland winters, they both blow

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine is basically the same as everyone else's:

Hartford, Connecticut
Honolulu, Hawaii
Providence, Rhode Island
Boston, Massachusetts
New Haven, Connecticut
Little Rock, Arkansas
Las Vegas, Nevada
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
New Orleans, Louisiana
Sacramento, California
Worcester, Massachusetts
Portland, Oregon
Baltimore, Maryland
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Alexandria, Louisiana
Danbury, Connecticut
Los Angeles, California
San Francisco, California
Cape Cod, Massachusetts
Washington, District of Columbia
San Jose, California
San Diego, California
Shreveport-Bossier City, Louisiana
Eugene, Oregon

This obviously happened because I asked for warm temperature, little or no snow, but some rain to mix things up. I also wanted to live near water.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

my wife took this test
looks like baltimore for us
or maybe oakland

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

How much money has Hartford paid these people?!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

and baltimore!

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopkinsville, Kentucky -- Friendliest Place in Kentucky


ha ha ha ha ha

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, for me the difference between winters just doesn't matter. It's shit sandwich time when the snow comes -- a little's no better than a lot. Obviously I know there is a difference, but it's not an important one to me.

Dee, millions of people have no difficulty getting into the holiday spirit in warm weather, including most of your neighbors.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

mine is kind of odd:

Chattanooga, Tennessee
Knoxville, Tennessee 
Tacoma, Washington 
Hickory, North Carolina
Carlisle, Pennsylvania 
Kent, Washington
Johnson City-Kingsport, Tennessee
Asheville, North Carolina
Bellingham, Washington
Spokane, Washington
Roanoke, Virginia   
Tulsa, Oklahoma   
Olympia, Washington 
Seattle, Washington   
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania  
Albany, New York   
Clarksville, Tennessee   
Greenville, South Carolina   
Lynchburg, Virginia   
Norfolk, Virginia   
Louisville, Kentucky   
Anchorage, Alaska  
Nashville, Tennessee  
Altoona, Pennsylvania 

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. albany ANY altoona!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

AND

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

why the wow for altoona?

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

because it's altoontastic!

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nicholaspalmer.net/images/Altoona.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Seattle, Washington
Carlisle, Pennsylvania
Cincinnati, Ohio
Knoxville, Tennessee
Denver, Colorado
Salt Lake City, Utah
Fort Collins, Colorado
Anchorage, Alaska
Tacoma, Washington
Provo-Orem, Utah
Ogden, Utah
Kent, Washington
Spokane, Washington
Long Island, New York
Bellingham, Washington
Albany, New York
Minneapolis-St Paul, Minnesota
Charleston, South Carolina
Olympia, Washington
Cleveland, Ohio
Norfolk, Virginia
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Asheville, North Carolina
Jacksonville, Florida

don weiner, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

nevermind Appalachia or the Rockies

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Don's list would make a pretty good puzzle

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

WORCESTER....ITS WHERE ITS AT. BITCHES.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, it's a bit weird. I think I may have overstated my love for the outdoors (and FWIW, I didn't ask for lower taxes on the question that did.)

I have no idea how Jacksonville snuck in there, a town I don't like at all. Same for Anchorage and Cleveland. But Asheville and Charleston are two of my favorite cities in the country, so I guess they got that right.

don weiner, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

New Haven, Connecticut Home of Yale University
The first hamburger was cooked at Louis' Lunch in this Connecticut spot in 1900...

Population: 542,000 | Average Home Price: $175,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 30"



Worcester, Massachusetts The Heart of the Commonwealth
This city at the heart of New England is home to the EcoTarium, a science center for all ages…

Population: 502,500 | Average Home Price: $215,000 | Precipitation: 48" | Snow: 45"



Providence, Rhode Island New England’s Best Kept Kept Secret
This Rhode Island spot is the home of the award-winning flaming sculpture WaterFire, installed on the three rivers of downtown...

Population: 955,500 | Average Home Price: $190,000 | Precipitation: 48" | Snow: 32"



Danbury, Connecticut Small-Town Charm Near the Big Apple
Zadoc Benedict began making beaver hats here in 1780, starting this Connecticut town's important hat industry...

Population: 75,000 | Average Home Price: $280,000 | Precipitation: 39" | Snow: 50"



Boston, Massachusetts America’s Walking City
Here in "America's Walking City," you can stroll down to famous Franklin Park for the annual Kite Festival...

Population: 3,400,000 | Average Home Price: $365,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 41"



Bend, Oregon Oregon’s Natural Playground
This Oregon town's municipal airport was used for pilot training during World War II…

Population: 52,000 | Average Home Price: $209,000 | Precipitation: 12" | Snow: 34"



Hartford, Connecticut The Insurance Capital
This Connecticut city is home to America's oldest State House, oldest public art museum, and oldest continuously published newspaper...

Population: 1,183,000 | Average Home Price: $155,000 | Precipitation: 41" | Snow: 42"



Cape Cod, Massachusetts Jewel of the New England Coast
This peninsula is home to the oldest public library in America: the Sturgis Library, established in 1644…

Population: 222,000 | Average Home Price: $325,000 | Precipitation: 46" | Snow: 34"



Stamford-Norwalk, Connecticut Connecticut’s Key Cities
This seaside spot in Connecticut is projected to have the highest median income in the country by 2009…

Population: 353,600 | Average Home Price: $365,000 | Precipitation: 43" | Snow: 47"



Carson City, Nevada Nevada’s Historic Capital
This Frontier city thrived and became a territorial capital following the discovery of the famous Comstock silver lode in the 1850's…

Population: 53,000 | Average Home Price: $175,000 | Precipitation: 11" | Snow: 32"



Cambridge, Massachusetts Boston’s Spirited Sister
Home to Harvard, MIT, and a large number of high-tech companies, this spot is world-renowned as an educational and technological mecca…

Population: 101,000 | Average Home Price: $380,000 | Precipitation: 42" | Snow: 41"



Santa Fe, New Mexico Jewel of the Southwest
This New Mexico town receives more snow annually than most towns in Connecticut…

Population: 62,000 | Average Home Price: $250,000 | Precipitation: 14" | Snow: 29"



Portland, Oregon City of Roses
This Oregon city has the nation's largest forested municipal park, the aptly-named Forest Park…

Population: 1,573,000 | Average Home Price: $196,000 | Precipitation: 36" | Snow: 5"



Reno, Nevada Biggest Little City in the World
This "biggest little city in the world" is famous for its casinos and recreational opportunities…

Population: 180,500 | Average Home Price: $225,000 | Precipitation: 7" | Snow: 24"



Medford, Oregon Gateway to the Pacific Northwest
This gorgeous spot boasts the West's only operating water-powered grist mill, located on the banks of Little Butte Creek since 1872…

Population: 63,000 | Average Home Price: $166,000 | Precipitation: 19" | Snow: 8"



Albuquerque, New Mexico The Pulse of New Mexico
This city's International Balloon Fiesta features 850 hot air balloons each October…

Population: 450,000 | Average Home Price: $163,000 | Precipitation: 8" | Snow: 15"



Baltimore, Maryland The Sparkling Harbor City
This Atlantic seaboard city is home to the National Aquarium…

Population: 4,750,000 | Average Home Price: $215,000 | Precipitation: 40" | Snow: 18"



Milwaukee, Wisconsin The Genuine American City
This Wisconsin "City of Festivals" celebrates its diverse ethnic heritage all year long, with over 20 major cultural festivals…

Population: 1,500,000 | Average Home Price: $125,000 | Precipitation: 31" | Snow: 47"



Washington, District of Columbia The World's Greatest Capital
This most patriotic of American cities was laid out by a French architect…

Population: 572,000 | Average Home Price: $300,000 | Precipitation: 39" | Snow: 16"



Gaithersburg, Maryland The Park City
This town is home to a "Latitude Observatory" - one of five in the world - built in 1899 to measure the wobble of the earth's axis...

Population: 53,000 | Average Home Price: $300,000 | Precipitation: 40" | Snow: 18"



Chicago, Illinois The Windy City
This big city has more shopping center space per capita than any other American city…

Population: 8,300,000 | Average Home Price: $210,000 | Precipitation: 32" | Snow: 40"



Madison, Wisconsin Athens Of The Midwest
Located between lakes Monona and Mendota, this picturesque spot is the only North American city built on an isthmus…

Population: 426,500 | Average Home Price: $202,000 | Precipitation: 30" | Snow: 44"



Oak Park, Illinois A Great Way of Life
This spot is home to the world's largest collection of Frank Lloyd Write designed houses and buildings, with 25 of them built between 1889 and 1913…

Population: 52,500 | Average Home Price: $298,000 | Precipitation: 35" | Snow: 33"



Sacramento, California The River City
This state capital is the oldest incorporated city in California…

Population: 1,628,000 | Average Home Price: $224,000 | Precipitation: 17" | Snow: 0"

Guess I'll stay right where I am.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the midwest starts around baltimore and ends around las vegas

West Virginia is so not the Midwest.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicago does not have 8 million people! Unless they're counting the whole metro area. But then they're sort of double counting, since places like Oak Park are in the mix, as well.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

Up until a coupla years ago, you coulda bought three or four houses for that kinda cash. At least.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Where? Kiev?

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry: Baltimore, Maryland, USA

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

That's like the same damn thing, dude.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicago does indeed have 8 million in the metro area, 3 million in the city. Compare to NYC's 21 million metro area, with 7 million in the city.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it does consider metro areas rather than cities proper (why wouldn't you? for most of the questions, it wouldn't matter which you lived in), although that invites the question of how it decides you'd rather live in Cambridge than Boston, or vice versa. Maybe preferred community size, public transportation, and cost preference come into that.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(i.e. New Orleans for instance: there's public transportation in the surrounding towns; there's public transportation in the city; but there is no public transportation that takes you from one to the other, which is certainly a factor for would-be bus commuters.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still amazed that there are places where you can, like, buy a house for under $200,000.

I've seen parking spaces in Manhatten sold for more than what I paid for my house.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha wow the top ones are already so close to my home in the US:
Williamstown, MA
Northampton, MA
Middlebury, VT
Burlington, VT
Hartford, CT
Danbury, CT

actually, I privileged new england, but I suspect it would've turned out this way regardless. I heart the berkshires.

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You know people always talk shit about Manhattan but D.C. and vicinity is more expensive.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

How much do the parking spaces cost there?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

oregon here i come! uh

providence
portland
new haven
hartford
worcester
boston
little rock (?!)
baltimore
eugene, or
corvallis, or
baton rouge
new orleans
salem, or
washington
milwaukee
danbury, ct (??!)
medford, or
sacramento
san francisco
san jose
shreveport
cape cod
honolulu
alexandria, la

maura (maura), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's like the same damn thing, dude.

Perhaps, but my cheap house in my nice little neighborhood is worth a lot more than it was two years ago, and what I pay on my mortgage each month wouldn't rent a closet in NYC or DC. There isn't as much to do here, true, but I can afford to do all of it if I want.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and my cheap house came with a big-ass tree-lined yard for my kid to play in and my dogs to romp around. It came included in the price.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Come back. I don't bite. Much.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dude WTF can I say to you? Your house may have been cheap but congratulations on living in a part of the country that's seen housing prices double and double again in the past couple of years? Whatever. Enjoy your luck in purchasing property before the entire country tripped their balls with front-loaded adjustable rate mortgages, you and the rest of this whole joke of a metropolitan area can all join hands and think about how you wouldn't have a chance of affording the house you live in at current prices.

I have a coworker who moved into his house last summer, he gets paid more than anybody else on his street and he lives in the smallest house. When he told his neighbor what he paid for it she was just like "shit, if I'd known they was going for that much, I'd a let you have mine." Hers is quite a bit larger. Makes him feel great.

sorry I don't mean to get particularly nasty towards you but this is really one of my touchy issues lately, finding out that Alex in NYC sold his loft in downtown Manhattan for less than I see condos in CRAP DC NEIGHBORHOODS going for, or hearing how others are buying HOUSES in Brooklyn, etc. etc. I'm like wtf ever DC metropolitan land, you can totally go fuck yourself. I just need a job in NYC or some other real city besides this shithole, and to finish my master's, and I'm never coming back here again.

$1150/month RENT for a "1BR" smaller than my "studio" with no closet space to speak of, crappy appliances, awful carpet and essentials right on the distant edge of 4-5 blocks, with nothing to do unless you hop on the subway - DC ain't that fuckin' special. Please do not tell me any more details about your mortgage, I honestly don't want to hear anything about it. This region can suck a dick (and it will, eventually, I mean when the Discovery Channel has a TV show making fun of how ridiculous your real estate market is, that might be a sign it's time for a slowdown (or a crash))

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, with the fact that Baltimore is over an hour away from DC and the public transit there isn't exactly a reliable method of getting to and from either city thanks to DC being an absolute shithole with no need to keep it's public transit running at all at night, I wouldn't call Baltimore "DC Vicinity," though god knows rent.net and theknot.com seem to think that North B'more and its suburbs is totally DC suburbs.

My cheap, large 2 bdrm apt "came with" free utilities and a public transit system that actually works and about 8 trillion things to do and a job market whose pay scale is so retardedly overinflated that a secretary can make more than her stockbroker father who lives in another city, if we're going to get into pissing matches over a joke.

Like you said already, your own house wouldn't be going for cheap now, which kind of implies what I asked you in my question: "Where, Kiev?" BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PRICE IT IS NOW IS IT?

Jesus dude.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, because of housing shortages in urban Russia and Ukraine I'm pretty sure Kiev is pretty expensive, possibly worse than even BALTIMORE, making my joke really just a sub-Yakov Smirnoff amusement!

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

B'more got some good restaurants though.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

also, Black Sea is famous world over for mussels and hardshells

(xpost)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That is one thing that the DC area and Bodymore Murderland have over NYC and just about everywhere else as far as I can tell, I've never had better clams casino or steamed mussels or in fact anything approaching Maryland seafood anywhere else. That ain't worth paying $300K over appraisal value for an SFH though.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The findyourspot site would be better if you could weight each question/factor as to how much it meant to you. For me, give me cheap residential real estate and quick access to an airport with a major carrier's hub and I'm pretty well set. Well, unless you're talking Cincinnati :-)

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Dee, millions of people have no difficulty getting into the holiday spirit in warm weather, including most of your neighbors.

Ha ha ha ha. You should see how sparsely decorated my neighborhood is right now. I mean, like, there are only about two houses per block that have any decorations at all up right now. And I know it's early in the holiday season and all, but even right around Christmas Eve last year only three houses per block were decorated, and IIRC there are twenty houses per block in my neighborhood.

Truth is, I'm sick of hot and humid weather WHENEVER, regardless of whether it affects the holiday season or not. I am tired of having fall or winter start later and later each year. I am tired of having sweaters in my closet I hardly ever seem to use. I am tired of wanting to live in an ice bath for five months out of the year. I hate crispy tanned skin, I don't own any shorts or tank tops (and believe me, you wouldn't want me to), I'm 150% sure employers around here would frown upon beachwear at the office, and, damn it, I want to see ACTUAL SNOW falling for once in my life! I mean, like, actual snowflakes, with actual ground accumulation, with maybe enough snow on the ground to form a few snowballs.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn it, I want to love this city so much, and do a great deal of the time, but there are times when this city just doesn't do it for me, and right now is one of them. And I guess I'm not at all surprised that no one has gotten my city in their "top 24" list, but I would be over the moon if this city had enough going for it to where maybe a couple of people around here would be able to find it attractive, and... argh.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

dee i hear san antone is pretty great! mike nesmith thought so anyway!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Most of your neighbours" in this case meant "San Antonio in general." The most decorated houses I've seen were in San Antonio -- and that's saying something -- and those little paper lanterns were everywhere, not to mention the tamale ladies and other signs of a town that's developed its own Christmas traditions instead of handwringing over whether the mirror looks like a postcard. Christmas really doesn't need cold weather; if you lived in the north, you'd be sick of it instead.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it ain't like the lawd jesus had a white christmas

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(It's fine to just not like hot weather. You don't need all these appeals to a strawman idea of "normal" and the true spirit of Christmas and so on. Just like stuff and dislike stuff. People do it every day.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I was just providing that as merely an example, a sample, a footnote, really. Not a huge part of the argument. Though, yes, maybe I do kinda want what the postcards and movies and commercials and ads and holiday specials show, and yes, it does appear as though I'm trying to build it up as a part of the argument.

As for the decorations -- pretty much the whole of the northwest side seems pretty much not to be into the holiday spirit, but as for the rest of the city? Well, the west side is pretty much anything pro-celebration and festivities, so they'd happily take any excuse to decorate. The northeast side has to put on elaborate decorations so it'll pull the hundreds of thousands of passers-by who'll drive through that area gawking at the holiday displays, and the downtown has to put on displays for the tourists. The rest of the city I don't know about, though I'd imagine the east side would be much like the west side (except toned down a bit).

I guess you are glamourizing the Other here, though, much like I seem to be. I see tamales all year long; there's nothing particularly special about them. The chocolate thing, I do confess, I have yet to try out, though I could go anywhere to get the Abuelita bricks and the molcajete to make it. (And we do have both here at the house.) The local university that has an annual tradition of festooning a pathway with lights does it not out of some sense of wanting to participate in a special version of Christmas but rather out of its innate impulse to try to outdo every other university in town, even though the quality of its academics is mostly suspect. And... other sorts of things.

(And I'm not trying for "normal", really! Just different. More "American". Something that's Other. I mean, you're dealing with someone who's coming up on her fourth year of not even being out of town, so she's sorta got a massive case of cabin fever.)

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And I'm sorta yearning for people, similar to the ones who hang out here but not necessarily the actual ones, to feel like this city is attractive enough to note that attractiveness. But, as of now, I haven't heard that sort of thing from that sort of individual, so as a consequence I have constant nightmares of this place being even more overrun with the frat boy types Tom described awhile back and the little mascara-ed and miniskirted princesses who love them, thus ensuring that not much in the way of High Culture actually becomes popular. And it's kinda important that we have our own sphere of High Culture here, too, because driving some 90 or so miles up to Austin to access anything like that would kinda be a pain for someone who has a precariously tight schedule to maintain.

*ahem* Anyway. So... how 'bout that Pittsburgh place?

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I understand. Texas is indeed hell on earth. Godspeed, Drama Queen.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not romanticizing the other -- especially since it's not very other for me -- I'm pointing out the whole cultures unbothered by the lack of cold weather (and they're still American). You can like whatever sort of Christmas you like, that's cool -- just because I don't want a white Christmas doesn't mean I think anything's wrong with it -- but it has nothing to do with what makes for a real Christmas, an American Christmas, a normal Christmas, or whatever other validating word you want to toss in. You have a habit of couching your opinions in comments about what is or isn't normal, what is or isn't mainstream or idealized, as though you're constantly measuring how you feel against a projection of how you think everyone else feels, and you're generally wrong; you do it more often than you used to, so I point it out more often.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)


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