Rolling American Idol Season 4 thread

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
please rise for the national anthem

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

At this rate, there will be nothing left of Randy Jackson by Season 7. He will be two-dimensional.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe I have to wait three more hours to watch this. :(

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You know what I would like to see on this show? Just once, I want a couple of talentless yet likeable and sympathetic William Hung-like characters in the final 12, just to see what would happen.

[note to Canadian Idol watchers -- this describes Jacob Hoggard, more or less, and look how well he did]

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do I sit and watch as they humiliate people? Is it better to dash completely unrealistic dreams or to just let people live in their karaoke fantasy worlds? Some of those contestants who are so bad and so sure of themselves seem like candidates for the deep end.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

American Idol would be a lot cooler if it was actually rolling in like one of those gladiator balls

Nellie (nellskies), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

First place: Mary "G-u-i-l-b-e-a-u-x"
Second place: Toni Braxton's brother
Third place: The guy who sang "Somewhere over the rainbow"
Honorable mention: the "Papa was a rolling stone" guy

Worst person to get selected: the guy in the rock band. just absolutely terrible.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

also, the janitor and the wedding ring lady made me sad and uncomfortable.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to deeply love the initial "people who suck" episodes. The illusion has been spoiled for me though. Hundreds of thousands of people try out for this show now. There are multiple levels of pre-screening and cattle call auditions in baseball stadiums. Clearly the people who suck are well aware of the fact that they suck, and are sucking on purpose to get on TV. Even if they are actually so deluded as to think they are good singers. The pre-screening people let them through to Simon/Randy/Paula only because they are entertainingly awful, and that just makes the whole thing (Simon groaning and insulting the bad people) sort of contrived. If they really didn't want to see anyone awful, they could structure it that way, but they don't. It's as fake as the voting.

All of that said. Yes, I watch the show, religiously.

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not certain that all of the sucky people are aware that they suck. Otherwise, I agree with that post. I can't possibly watch all of the screening episodes, it's like watching a clown take a pie in the face over and over -- it rapidly ceases being funny.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw the end of last night's episode but there is a good singer struggling to climb out of the throat of that girl who was possessed by the devil.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw the end of last night's episode but there is a good singer struggling to climb out of the throat of that girl who was possessed by the devil.

Excellent!

The show is incredibly dishonest, but still, the freak show entertains me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the st louis one, anyone want to report?

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 20 January 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

They had some funny accents.

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary's segment on Tuesday's episode (the first one) was one of the most disturbing pieces of televison I've ever watched. Oh, my, God.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That Mizzou farm girl was promising.

Those two buddies who appeared to have chromosomal disorders--DUD!

quincie, Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Quincie, do you remember their names?

I joked to my wife last night that their rejection should have spirred a cross-country killing spree.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam and....

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

dirk??

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I think one was Dirk.

quincie, Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was unfair that they turned down the "Ain't too Proud to Beg" guy, he was overstylized but he actually could sing.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree about the Aint too Proud guy. He was better than a lot of people they accepted.

Is it just me, or is Paula slowly turning jaded and mean like Randy/Simon?

The part last night where they suggested that the cannibal chick should eat the twins was awesome.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The cannibal episode continues to disturb me. I'd forgotten about it. Thanks so much...

Other thoughts about the American Idlers

EComplex (EComplex), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

So did she really say she'd eaten human flesh?

1) Isn't this illegal?
2) Surely it's unethical?
3) Tastes like chicken?

Really, where did she get it? Is this being misreported?

shuddering, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

So did she really say she'd eaten human flesh?
1) Isn't this illegal?
2) Surely it's unethical?
3) Tastes like chicken?

Really, where did she get it? Is this being misreported?

It apparently was for a class of some sort, and was legal and ethical, it seemed.

She said it tasted like bacon.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Where do you get it though? Cadavers? Amputees? Aborted fetuses? This is really troubling.

stillshuddering, Friday, 21 January 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Dirk Pearman (Pearman!) is a god among men. The train wrecks are one thing, but the lingering-too-long-on-the-torment-of-others has got to go (the guy who started begging for spare change, the voice teacher whose student didn't make it, et al.)

Right now I'm firmly in wedding ring lady's camp, followed by closely by the 16-year-old who rapped about the streets. Jermaine Dupri needs to get his hands on her so badly.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Sunday, 23 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

So , what did we think of last night's show?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I keep forgetting to watch this so far this season. Maybe I can't bring myself to care anymore.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I know at least twenty people who went to the New Orleans audition, and not a single one of them was on television. I think I know boring people.

The balance of "borderline, will this person make it or not?" auditions to "so bad we're supposed to laugh" auditions seems more contrived this season. I mean, yeah, I realize it's not like they just tossed random footage together last season, that they were just as deliberate -- but it feels more deliberate this time. Like there's a secret, Shadow Idol simultaneous with the exoteric American Idol, looking for the next William Hung.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoyed Gene Simmons talking like my high school jazz band director.

I enjoyed the Snidely Whiplash looking dude who butchered I Put A Spell on You, because I love that song, and I love butchered versions even more than the original.

That 19 year old baptist kid with the dreds will be there at the end. FOX doesn't even try to hide the fact that the show is fake as wrestling anymore...

The Lil' Jon wannabe was brilliant. I used to pretend I didn't like Lil' Jon because I felt I shouldn't like him. After all, all he does is go "HHWHAT??!!??!" and "EEEEYAYUH!!!" over and over again, but I have come to grips with the fact that this is brilliant. Lil' Jon should have an "issues of the day" talk show on MSNBC.

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep I had a few friends at the D.C. audition. Good singers, pretty people, but with 10,000 plus per city it gets pretty random.

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's true. I think of New Orleans as small compared to a lot of other places, but when people were driving in from Texas and everything, that's not going to matter.

The Baptist kid made me wonder about this guest judge thing, cause "there's no God in rock-n-roll ... or, uh, pop music" was odd reasoning for an American Idol judge. Mark McGrath was one thing, but putting Gene Simmons into a Goldberg machine designed to produce the next Kelly Clarkson seems ... well, it seems like a metaphor I'd use to describe something comically disastrous.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I tuned in near the end and saw Randy and Paula walk out of one of the auditions. I take it this had something to do with those twins shooting their mouths off, but what did they say?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The twins auditioned with a Boyz II Men song -- Gene said they were too old to get away with that cutesy shit, Simon said it just wasn't good, the consensus appeared to be that if they had auditioned separately, the verdict might be different. When it was clear that the twins were going to be voted out, Paula agreed with Simon to vote on them separately (obviously under the impression that when Simon said that, there was one he would have voted yes for) -- and Simon again voted no on both of them, which especially humiliated the second guy, who obviously thought he was going to be voted in.

Randy and Paula got pissed at Simon for toying with the guys and with them. The twins, when they left, were pissed because they hadn't wanted to audition together to begin with, and had made a point of dressing differently, registering separately, etc., but the handlers had packaged them as a set.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

To sum up better: Simon implies "do this and I'll think about saying yes," everyone does this, Simon says, "Yeah, I thought about it and I still say fuck off," everyone gets pissed.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, thanks. And they implied that we'd be seeing those twins again ... wild card picks for Hollywood, I suppose?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think at least one of them is re-auditioning by himself -- can you do that? Maybe you can re-audition as much as you like if it's in a different city, or yeah, maybe he's a wild card pick.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just watching Vegas now via Tivo:

The little Cyndi Lauper girl can't sing (well she can, but there's such a wobble to her voice). Still, she's cute as pie and will probably get all the way through to the 12.

Identical twin who got shot down in New Orleans but got through with the Donnie Hathaway can sing, but I find his voice annoying.

I promise this the last time I will say anything about this. The girl with the pink cowboy hat, who they told "you're just trying to get on tv" of COURSE that's why she was there. She knew she was horrible, so did the 30 producers who heard her before she got that far. Fake as wrestling...

The housewife who sang Alicia Keys knocked it out.

Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought they were way too hard on the guy who did "Heartbreak Hotel". I thought his voice was OK. I think it was just that they didn't like his look.

Yeah, the Cyndi Lauper girl totally got by on cuteness.

The 44-year-old guy who tried to pass himself off as 28 was the show-stealer for me.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, it's too bad about the Lion King guy - he seemed pretty good with what he was doing. I realize this is all "pop music industry in conformity non-shockah" but.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lion King guy lost me completely when he did the Rowan Atkinson voice. I'm not sure if I would feel differently if he had done a really good Rowan Atkinson voice.

"you're just trying to get on tv" of COURSE that's why she was there

Yeah, the judges get so impatient with things like that sometimes that I keep expecting one of them -- not even necessarily Simon -- to bitch about the screeners. Although I suppose that wouldn't be aired. (But isn't the relative transparency -- because it's still more "behind the scenes"-ish than the real contest at the end of the season -- the whole appeal of the early part of the season?)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The appeal of these audition shows, such as it is, is that its entertaining to watch and listen to people sing badly, whether they are aware of their lack of talent or not. It draws your eye the way a car wreck does.

That's why the obviously faux frustration of the judges at these "bad singers who only want to get on TV" annoys me so much. I understand its part of the formula, but its just fake. Of course, I think the voting is fake too, so do with that what you will.

Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 28 January 2005 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I could not believe how good that fat ugly white lady sang.

I kept imagining that the old dude who was pretending to be 28 was Glen Campbell but he didn't sing like Glen.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Did they really only take ten of the first 9,000 auditions in Las Vegas? My frustration would be very real (even though I know there's a pre-screening process).

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 28 January 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I could not believe how good that fat ugly white lady sang.


Fat? Yeah. Ugly? Not really. Lose the glasses, put her in a properly tailored dress - she'll never be "hot" but she'll be presentable, and you can totally work the "normal American gal" angle. And she can really, REALLY sing.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 28 January 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

And she can really, REALLY sing.

She sure can. And it could be interesting if she gets as far as the live broadcasts; she has one of the three or four best voices, period, of people we've seen so far, but really needs contacts/better hair/better clothes to conform to the "pop star" ideal. I wonder if the public would embrace somebody who sings like she does but isn't all that attractive; Fantasia and Ruben aren't typical star material, either, but the white lady (I don't want to describe her in pure pejoratives, but I honestly can't remember her name) has much more of a euphemistic "image problem" than either of them.

The little Cyndi Lauper girl can't sing (well she can, but there's such a wobble to her voice). Still, she's cute as pie and will probably get all the way through to the 12.

I loved how they made no secret about the fact that she was SO GODDAMN PERKY that she was alienating all her fellow auditions in the lobby.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 28 January 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Fat? Yeah. Ugly? Not really. Lose the glasses, put her in a properly tailored dress - she'll never be "hot" but she'll be presentable, and you can totally work the "normal American gal" angle. And she can really, REALLY sing.

I stand by what my penis told me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I stand by what my penis told me.

Because female singers are only worthy if they're boner-inducing.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Clay Aiken looked like a bum in his audition too. Once they overhaul her image I think she'll be fine.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What I meant was, she'll do fine in the competition. She probably won't BE fine, as in "girl, you so fine!!".

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Because female singers are only worthy if they're boner-inducing.

I don't remember saying that she didn't deserve to win the competition.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 January 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wonder if there's a latent gender disparity in how people actually get selected on this show - witness the big weird guy last night singing "Superstar" vs. the woman who looked like Michael Moore singing "I Could Have Danced All Night."

I know he was more talented than she was (significantly so, in fact), and the Broadway was working against her, but they seemed to treat her image as the main issue, whereas his was an afterthought. She would have clearly made the next round had she been attractive, but I feel like they judged them under patently different criteria. I know this show is based on subjectivity, but it was striking nonetheless.

(That said, LL Cool J for president!)

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I noticed this too. This happens all of the time on AI, though.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
And then there were 24. And for the next few weeks this thing is on three nights a week. Social life, begone.

America's reaction to Sc0tt Sav0l is going to be really interesting. I forgot how riled up people on Internet message boards can get about American Idol; earlier today I read someone calling him "Scottzi Nazi" for some reason. Whoa!

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Savol wasn't feelin it last night dogs.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He wasn't great last night -- I liked Anwar Robinson and Mario Vasquez much better.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm digging Constantine, but mostly in a novelty kind of way, and because I want to see what he does when they do "Mariah Carey night" or "Whitney Houston night" or something. I keep expecting him to bust out the Mr Big.

Last night was pretty mediocre overall, as the judges kept pointing out for us.

I don't remember now who the female contestants are; did that little annoying chick who kept forgetting the words make it?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

im not sure who that is but the annoying 16 year old Fran Drescher made it. I want to punch her.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed last night's show, but tonight has been interesting thus far. Carrie sung brilliantly and nobody will be able to resist the farmer's daughter's look and personality. Janay completely TANKED and I'm surprised that the judges didn't let her have it. You could tell that she was nervous right away because she was all bug-eyed and looked like she was shaking. At three or four junctures, I thought she was going to forget her lines, too.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The absolute worst thing you can do on your debut American Idol performance is to sing a very famous song by a revered vocalist. WHY WHY WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS? They sing something by Whitney or Aretha or Celine ... why? Why force people to compare you to those singers? Melinda (?) just sang "Power of Love", which only goes to show that she's not nearly as good as Celine or Jennifer Rush. Why advertise your deficiencies relative to established singers instead of trying to showcase your strengths with a (relatively) clean slate?

Amazingly, ONLY PAULA SEEMED TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I should start rating the episodes by how much work I got done during them, on the assumption that's inversely proportional to how much they held my interest. Tonight: less (therefore better) than last night.

That Mikalah loud-talking looks-like-Paula-Marshall-after-malicious-plastic-surgery talks-to-the-judges one must be the Fran Drescher chick. Chris is welcome to use my fist to punch her.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: tonight's singing vs the tops worn by tonight's performers

The judges are using kid gloves tonight. When Phil Collins outsings you, it's time to reconsider your dreams of being a singer.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

When people named Fantasia, Aloha, and Constantine become famous, they're gonna name their kids crazy things like Nick and Carol.

And yeah, they're being nice, but they're also pretty clearly bored. As are the contestants in the audience! Constantine's reaction shots have all been either "I am bored at the pep rally, when can I go out to the parking lot and smoke" or "I am staring through your clothes, hold still."

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I didn't see all of the men's performances but judging by their higlight reels from last night, the men are WAY BETTER than the women this year!!!!

Also, go 'head, Aloha and willowy black rock girl! You did your things, dawgs. Also one of the Diane DiGarmo/Carmen Rasmussen amalgamations was pretty good... but why were they so terrified and BORING overall?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

thats the one tep...its hard to believe a sixteen year old can act like that. she needs a swift kick to the vag.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I only tend to see it on Saturdays, but the elimination down to the final 24 was shown at the weekend. What struck me as the strangest part was Simon's constant use of the word "balance" when accepting or rejecting contestants. Did anybody else think it odd?

The farm girl is my Spring Crush Of Shame, I think.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought he was making reference to either the men or the women being generally stronger, but they have to have 12 of each rather than just the best 24. Hurrah for ITV2! Are there any other Brit watchers? I have decided to be perverse and root for annoying Mikalah. Her gabbling reminds me of Barbra Streisand.

Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

See I thought what Simon was referring to was an evening-up of the racial mix - he seemed only to say it more to the white contestants.

I find Mikalah kind of endearing in a perverse way, I can't put my finger on why. I have to admit, there were three, maybe four, women in the final 12 I honestly don't remember seeing at all in the earlier rounds.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like to put my finger in her eye.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i am also pulling for nikko smith simply for the fact that he is ozzie smiths kid.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought all of the women (except maybe Nadia, the girl with the big fro), were awful. Well, not awful -- just boring, bland, and uncharismatic. It was an hour of "who cares?" performances.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

mahalo or what ever her name was at the end was too over the top for me. i hate all that showmanship shit...even though its part of being an american fuckwad.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, which one is Nikko Smith? I didn't know Ozzie's kid was in the mix until after the fact, I wasn't looking for him.

Country corn-fed blonde chick wasn't bad, especially relative to the rest of the night.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

he's basically ozzie...
http://realitytv.about.com/library/images/bl-NikkoSmith.jpg

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, I'll bet he's gonna do a backflip.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The missus calls Mikalah Teen Drescher.

I am pulling for Nadia, Bo, Teen Drescher, and at least two others.

Andy K. (ADK), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah, it turns out, is the cousin of a coworker. I will be idly tracking her progress with interest.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

then you can kill her.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot Mario. I cannot believe I forgot Mario. There can never be enough Mario's in pop music.

Andy K. (ADK), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

We called Mikalah "George" because she is rather obviously a drag queen.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i like that. george gordon. Im going to start calling her Jame Gumb.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Aloha's voice well enough but that song was a mistake when Beyonce did it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I predict a) that Mikalah will stay because she gets noticed, and anyone who gets noticed is ahead of the game at this point against a backdrop of such forgettable performances;

and b) that if we voted people OFF instead of voting to keep them ON, she'd totally get the hook tonight. (I guess an if isn't a prediction, really. But as I was typing I wished that I could vote against someone instead of for someone.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

They SHOULD vote people off on this show (I've said that on other threads, though. I'll stop now).

Melinda definitely didn't deserve to go at this stage. Does this mean that Janay had the 2nd lowest number of votes.

Maybe the other contestant will now understand how important song choice is at this point in the competition.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

then you can kill her.

---

We called Mikalah "George" because she is rather obviously a drag queen.

I fear I must not pass on these descriptions to my co-worker.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Nikko Smith is the one who did the Stevie Wonder! Excellent, I'm happy to root for him.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

From those clips, the guys sounded great! There were at least six star-quality performances.

A majority of these twelve guys are 25 or older ... interesting.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Teenage guys aren't exactly known for their strong voices, that's why they have to hunt in packs. Or something.

And the clips do make Guys Night look pretty good. I was bored at the time, but it excerpts well. Constantine really should've done a different song, though. Dude, do "I Remember You"! You know you want to! "Winds of Change"! C'mon!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 24 February 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Bump, so I don't have to look for it later.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Everybody learned from last week in choosing uptempo songs and going overboard in trying to work the crowd. I was flipping the whole time between AI and Reality Stars Fear Factor but almost all of them sounded great, with only one or two duds.

Simon said that Constantine was good, but that his performance wasn't anything you wouldn't hear from a good bar singer. That was valid criticism, but Bo put on the same performance (with a bit more mustard on it) and Simon was tripping over his compliments.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine seemed a little more awkward, but yeah, I was surprised at how much better-received Bo was. I would have thought "Hard to Handle" would be a better song for Constantine than it turned out to be -- but maybe it was just subverted by his hamming it up, which seemed really forced (whereas Bo came across like he does that all the time).

Nikko was really good tonight.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Nikko put me off a bit with his "now we're in for some *real* singing" taped statement. Apparently he believes "real singing" = "10X more notes than necessary".

But it was refreshing to see so many of them stay away from the R&B styles that get caned to death on AI.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What Tep said about Citizen Dick vs. Constantine.

Amway skipping through a fucking meadow for "What's Going On": not right at all.

Mario: "No, really, I'm not bald. And I'm going to prove it to you sometime... just not during this pre-show interview or the performance I'm about to give..."

Biggest disappointment: Simon.

Andy K. (ADK), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Mario's "some day I hope to prove I'm not bald" statement was ominous. Was the hat stapled on? Is he waiting for surgery to remove it? Is he incubating an egg in there, and promised Horton he wouldn't disturb it until it hatches? Does he have a second face like a Total Recall mutant, ready to burst into surprise duet in the semifinals?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonight was the first time I've watched in at least two seasons. WTF???? The guys all stink! It's like watching karaoke night at the irish pub down the block. And they totally dissed the only guy with a decent voice (the one who did Stevie Wonder)

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone seen that Hootie Burger King commercial?

Jip Thornton, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean the Dan Perry Burger King commercial.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I HATE YOU?
WELL, I'LL TRY AND EXPLAIN...

Black Robert Smith (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF, is nobody going to mention this: DUDE SANG MOON FUCKING RIVER!

Anwar is SHIT HOT right now. You KNOW his little middle school students are loving this.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine looks like ilxor martin m.! Sort of. Martin m. would be the best AI contestant EVER, but I'm pretty sure he's too old by now.

Why oh why do I watch this show???

quincie, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, those rockers! I sort of want Constantine to stick around for a while just to see the judges react with stunned ambivalence to his screamy bits. Bo is really astoundingly great.

I'm a Scott man, so it's good to see that they're making him look more like an actual human being with the sunglasses and chinstrap and so forth.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine looks like Gollum with Raggett hair!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I gotta root for Lindsey Cardinale, Ponchatoula's got great fuckin strawberries.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Michalah was shockingly awesome.

I think Celena is really cute, but she looks (and IS) soooo much older than the other contestants. That's a big strike against her and her mediocre performances aren't going to overcome that deficit. I think she's going home this week, unless two or three others blow it tonight.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah was shockingly awesome.

I think Celena is really cute, but she looks (and IS) soooo much older than the other contestants. That's a big strike against her and her mediocre performances aren't going to overcome that deficit. I think she's going home this week, unless two or three others blow it tonight.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry

Janay was ass, but I have a funny feeling that she will be the one with nine lives this season.

I liked Carrie's performance. It wasn't that big of a stylistic stretch, since she did it in a country-rock style. Keep in mind that I'm in love with the girl so I probably lack the ability to be objective about her at this point.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Janay will make it another week, too (and I really like/feel sorry for her, so that's a subjective prediction as well). Mikalah is easily turning into the most enjoyable trainwreck on this show in quite some time.

Aloha and Celena are out, IMO. As for the boys, I'm calling it for David Brown and Joseph Murena. There are some really, really nondescript people occupying the periphery right now.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't admit Mikalah was good. Dammit, I wanted her to be the next one voted out.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the girl with the fro. She's hot.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Although Celena is the cutest, she would make a good cosplayer.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know anything about their singing.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

dissappointed in uberhotties Lindsey, Celena & Nadia this week

right now feels like the show is all about Carrie and, especially, Bo Bice !
the country and rock thing is the big surprise this season

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Scott man, so it's good to see that they're making him look more like an actual human being with the sunglasses and chinstrap and so forth.

They seem to be turning him into Randy Jackson.

F Lack, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems kind of unfair they have to boot two of the men and two of the women -- I think most of the guys put on better performances this week than the women, who were mostly very mediocre. They could easily lose at least three of them.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that seems odd. I don't remember, did they do that at this stage of the competition last year? Or are they trying to avoid last year's all-females-at-the-end situation?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah was amazingly out of tune at the beginning of her performance. It was kind of shocking.

Also, she still sounds like Anastasia but at least she didn't look like Anastasia this week.

Finally, the majority of the women are mediocre to terrible (Janay is cute but she is HORRIFYING).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

don't remember, did they do that at this stage of the competition last year? Or are they trying to avoid last year's all-females-at-the-end situation?

It's the first year they have done this, so that they didn't have a situation like last year.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I haven't been paying attention this week (though I did watch Nasvhille Star last night -- the Buddy Holly looking guy best). Are the rockabilly guy who did the Creedence song and the Joisey gurl who did "Young Hearts Run Free" last week still in? What did they sing this week, if anything? They were my favorites, I think.

chuck, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The rockabilly guy is out, even though he was really awesome last week. :(

The Jersey girl is in, I forget which song she did though.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I also liked the guy with the hat who went last last week, and the girl who sang the Rare Earth song or whatever it was, and the girl who sang the disco song that none of the judges liked...um, it's kind of fuzzy by now. Mainly I thought it was cool how the Creedence guy rocked so much harder then either of the supposed "rocker" (which just means they have long hair, right?) guys. I think my least favorite guy had dreadlocks or something, but I'm not sure. My least favorite girls mostly all sang boring ballads. Is there some website where we can look at their pictures to refresh our memory banks?

xp - why the fuck did they vote the rockabilly guy out??? That sucks!

chuck, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The way Janay moves her hands when she sings is very unsettling!

I missed the boys! What did Anwar sing?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, Mikalah is the Joisy gurl, right? (Jewish or Italian? Maybe both?) Anyway, she was by FAR the best girl last week, no contest. I need to start paying more attention now, though, if she's still in.

chuck, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, that girl is HOT. Simon was totally right though, that half the audience will love her and the other half will find her annoying. IT'S ALREADY BEGUN.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, on Nashville Star last night this one girl started singing Rosanne Cash's great "Seven Year Ache" and then had to leave the stage a few lines in to throw up or something -- Leann Rimes (who hosted -- and Bret Michaels from Poison is one of the judges!) blamed it on food poisoning. Also, some teenage girl sang "Break Down Here" by Julie Roberts, apparently not realizing it's about an unwanted pregnancy, but she was pretty good regardless. And this one cowboy dude with five o'clock shadow looking totally boring in a goody-goody George Strait kind of way, and I wanted to hate him until he started singing and swiveling his hips to "Working Man Blues" by Merle Haggard. There was also some big guy with an angelic boy-band falsetto that had very little to do with country music, but I liked him anyway. But the best guy was totally the nerdy looking popabilly dude with Buddy Holly Marshall Crenshaw 1977 Costello glasses (which he had apparently been wearing ever since he was a little kid.) And in general, the Nasvhille Star contestants totally blow the American Idol contestants out of the water, from what I've seen so far.

chuck, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah -- aside from last night -- reminds me of the annoying girls who ham it up during their song at the grade school talent shows, like they're some kind of stage vampire that feeds off of the energy released by eyeballs aimed at them, making you grit your teeth and read and re-read the program as though there's something interesting there or you're suddenly going to discover it's turned into a baseball expose from Sports Illustrated, while patiently waiting for your own kid to get on stage and do the itsy-bitsy spider.

Not in a good way.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Hah, I just hope she knows some Latin freestyle songs! She is MADE for Latin freestyle! Fuck this deadassed quiet storm bullshit, man!

Low points of Nashville Star were probably the two people who brought out instruments (one with a guitar, one with a mandolin), and closed their performances with completely ignorable "solos" that lasted, like, two seconds each. It just seemed totally incongrous to me, and they were both dullards otherwise; I guess they'd been picked just for their mere ability to play instruments. I didn't get that at all.

xp

chuck, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Did the judges disagree about anything this week? It seemed like they'd all recieved talking points before the broadcast. I can't help feeling they've had a backroom meeting of some sort "Let's see, we've had a white woman, a black man and a black woman how about a white or Latino man this time to widen our demographics?"

AI Dor, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Let's see, we've had a white woman, a black man and a black woman how about a white or Latino man this time to widen our demographics?"

That's kind of been the speculation from the beginning, although I don't know how it's factored into how they chose the final 24 - there are definitely weaker female candidates than the men thus far, but some of the total female dead weight (Janay, Amanda, Aloha) have actually sung well; Janay is clearly petrified, but only started to show it the last two weeks. I think the bigger issue may be that most of the really good men are older - the age limit being raised means that lot of mid-20's guys with obvious stage/musical experience (ie. Bo, Constantine, Mario) are able to come in and mop up.

But since nobody can predict how AI voters actually vote, Celena Rae could walk away with this thing.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That 19 year old baptist kid with the dreds will be there at the end. FOX doesn't even try to hide the fact that the show is fake as wrestling anymore...

The lesson as always, I'm an idiot.

Some other random thoughts.

I hate Constantine so very, very much. I hate his lack of talent, and I hate the fact that he makes Prince eyes at the camera at every opportunity, and I hate that said prince eyes will carry him deep into the competition.

Janay isn't scared, she just doesn't blink. This is in a way worse than being terrified because she looks terrified at all times. I feel like an American Idol needs to blink on occaision, which does not bode well for her.

He won't win, but I love that anyone sang Whipping Post on American Idol.

Ash (ashbyman), Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

But since nobody can predict how AI voters actually vote

And I somehow nailed all four. For what it's worth, David Brown looked unassailable at the very beginning, but this show proved that his initial audition was the apex of his abilities. He was genuinely outclassed.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Im really pulling for Scott Savol...but I really think that Bo is on to something here. Yellow teeth Maroulis needs to go.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 3 March 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

sad to see Celena go partly because of the Cher and despite the Celine Dion thing

Lindsey, please bring back the slow husky thing
and I thought Carrie sounded fine this week (not as commanding, original choice etc but she's still got the voice)

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking Travis and Scott get the boot after last night. Travis BEATBOXED. America will not stand for that.

Scott didn't deserve it, but the next-weakest man, Nikko, probably saved himself with a great "Georgia on My Mind." Anwar was also really great, and even though Constantine, Bo, Anthony, and Mario were fair-to-middling, I have to think that they've got their fans in numbers that my boy Savol doesn't.

I think that we could easily see the first four eliminations of the final 12 be women. Carrie and Nadia are the only women left with any real chance of winning it, IMHO.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Overall, I think they were a lot better than fair-to-middling. But the guys certainly are outclassing the girls right now.

For the second straight week, I was perplexed by the judges reaction to Constantine. This week I thought he was flat (energy-wise, not pitch-wise), but the judges were loving it. Except for Simon, who provided the biggest OMGWTFLOL moment of the season thus far when he called Constantine a Sting impersonator.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Bo was much less great than they seemed to think, too -- it sounded like a wedding performance, and when he said he'd done it at "one or ten weddings," I wasn't exactly surprised. I mean, it didn't suck, but it wasn't as good as he's been.

Constantine is disappointing me. Right now, Nikko's my boy.

I'm not sure I would bother watching the girls if I didn't have a laptop and the ability to bittorrent anything that happens to be on against AI tonight. Also, I want Seacrest to snap and break a chair over Mikalah's head or something.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, Constantine was really bad, but I don't see the Sting impersonator thing at all. He did the song very much in his own style, it's just that his style sucks so bad.

The astrology theme was gay in a bad way.

They should just give the title to Anwar now.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The judges were right about Amanda -- giving the sort of criticism I was spewing upthread ... but American kids don't know "River Deep, Mountain High". They'll think it was a great performance.

The Janay/Carrie double bill should be interesting.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, poor Janay. She was really flat on that Selena song.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

If Janay survives again, even after THAT, then she is officially bulletproof (and yet, I wouldn't bet against her making it through again).

Vonzell and Nadia were nuts to try Aretha and Otis. I didn't think either one was very good, although Nadia was easily good enough to survive in this weak group but Vonzell looked ridiculous in that outfit and deserves to go home just for those crimes against fashion humanity.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Huh. As much as I hate that fucking Aerosmith song, it fit Lindsey's voice very well. I'm really surprised that she hasn't sung "Black Velvet" or some other trite contralto chestnut thus far. How much will Seacrest dousing Simon with a glass of water lend her in terms of sympathy?

Nadia has probably been the best so far, but that's not saying a whole lot.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Janay seems younger every week, not in a good way. The girls don't seem at all confident, except for that one whose name I've just forgotten (the one talking about playing pool with the guys).

God, that fucking Aerosmith song.

hah, xpost; it should be subtitled "that fucking Aerosmith song."

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

At least someone had the good sense to tell Janay to put her hair back, so she didn't look like Rick James or anything.

Mikalah sang Streisand without actually unclenching her teeth the entire time, even on the glory notes. That was pretty rough.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Jessica deserves to make it through just for wearing that top. The great singing was icing on the cake.

I think Amanda and Vonzell are gone. I can't bring myself to bet against Janay.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I know Janay has nine lives, but she was terrible. Even the replay made it obvious how badly she was flubbing her notes.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Mikalah and Janay. I've got a really funny feeling about this not being Mikalah's week.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i think mikalah is beauiful!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Jessica and Nadia were this weeks' best / Carrie surprisingly weak

Lindsey brought back the husk, but her performance swung between lethargic and strained
and girl take that mike outta you beautiful face
(eyes without a mouth?)

Mikalah is the Broadway contenda of the bunch - so getta part annd leave the pop to others

Janay, Amanda or Vonzell all candidates to go (even though Amanda's was her best so far)

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott in making-it-to-top-12 shocka!

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe Nikko didn't make it!

Favorites right now are Jessica, Carrie, and maybe Bo; soft spot for Lindsey.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott's a good singer, but he looks *terrible*, not so much in an unbecoming way, but in a "who gives a fuck, I'm not interested" way.

He'll be gone soon enough. It's a strong top 12 and almost everyone in it has a personality except for him.

After last night, Jessica joins Carrie on my "I'm in love with them and can no longer be objective about them in any way, shape, or form" list.

Part of me will be rooting for Bo and Constantine because after winning the competition, their debut single would have the best chance of going to #1 than just about anything else on tap for the next six months. Nickelback's reign of terror as the last band to have a rock song at #1 must end.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Nikko wuz robbed! Constantine should have got the boot.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

news flash, America racist country, news at 10

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 10 March 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, with any luck, Nadia will keep doing well and America will finally learn to accept a black person singing on television.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Next step: desegregating professional basketball.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Nikko should have got in instead of either Constantine or Anthony. totally happy bout the girls (though I'd still! probably rather hear Janay than Mikalah).

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Tep but are you serious? You don't think Constantine and Federov in but Nikko out has ANYTHING to do with race?

Oh, forget it. I don't want to fight with you, you big lug. Plus, you know I'm right. And adorable.

The Adorable Cutiepie (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Nikko doesn't have much of a personality either. I think Scott is a better singer than Nikko, anyway - the package isn't as good, and Nikko's certainly a better dancer/overall performer, but remember that AI voters vote in totally fucked up, irrational ways. Beyond being Ozzie Smith's kid (from which Nikko intentionally disassociated himself by going from "Osborne" to "Nikko"), he didn't really stick out.

I'm starting to love Lindsey. She seems...nice. That's about as well as I can articulate it. I hope she stays, because I think I have a little crush on her. She has such a distinctive voice by AI standards.

Still, independent of how they actually do, I could easily see Lindsey, Jessica, Mikalah, and Vonzell being the next four eliminated. I don't think Scott or Constantine or the other, weaker male contestants are in any kind of trouble in the near future.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Who cares about the singers? They're all young talent quest finalists straight out of the 1950's. Completely forgettable and conservative. The only reason to watch this show is the magificent Simon Cowell.

moley, Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you're gonna have moments later in the season when race will be a much bigger factor -- I'm not sure two pretty boys, one of em Betty and the other Veronica, need the old boys network to help them against the kid who, as much as I like him, looks like a slimmed-down version of Rerun and didn't have a gimmick. It'd be one thing if the show were decided with votes-against, but when it's votes-for and there are this many contestants, it's more a matter of who attracts the most fans. (xpost; in other words, what Daniel said.)

I'd rather listen to Janay than Mikalah, but I can more easily imagine Mikalah having a singing career -- Janay should've waited a couple years before auditioning. (Has anyone who's been voted off re-auditioned in a later season? Are they eligible to?)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony Federov doesn't have a personality; he has a tracheotomy.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed Lindsey's got my fave vocal tone of all. now if she can just work out how to use it.

(x-post)

yes eligible to reaudition. that was the deal in the choice between Amanda and the younger girl who didn't get through. they asked who'd come back and when Amanda said this was the end of the line they went with her.

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You people just have to accept that Constantine is much, much better looking than the rest of the contestants.

Holy Mo, Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude looks like Gollum. Nice double chin and beer gut too.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 March 2005 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

He has a beer gut because he's a rocker.

Holy Mo, Thursday, 10 March 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|94099|1|,00.html

Mario out for "personal reasons," Nikko back in.

So that happened.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

This makes his "one day I hope I can take off my hat" comment even more ominous somehow.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

whoa! all right, more nonstop nikko coverage in the st louis papers!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Granted, I could be totally off the mark, but I'm not convinced about the whole Mario thang.

EComplex (EComplex), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The Caruso analogy is interesting, but this quote seems telling:

Vazquez tells "Extra" that, "It was a very, very hard decision on my part...'American Idol' was only positive and wonderful with me…but overall, my intuition told me there was things I really needed to take care of, personal areas in my life that I'm trying to keep private…to me that meant that I couldn't continue on with the competition." Vazquez goes on to say, "Everything is great! I'll be expecting some bad press and some good press, but that's what comes with being in the public."

Something about that doesn't smack of pessimism with the "AI" production company's shitty contracts or a record deal from another label (and I'm sure that he has a non-compete clause in said shitty contract).

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey E Complex,

Either a) that Drudge is right -- first time for everything -- and Mario doesn't want the AI producers to control his career, or b) that Drudge is wrong, that something really IS up with his family, and we should all leave him the hell alone.

Either way, you admit you haven't heard him sing, and you cynically/humorously call the show "American Idiot." So why do you care?

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"personal areas" = he's gay!

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 14 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Mario being gay would hardly be a shock, but it didn't stop other contestants -- or runners-up -- in the past.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 14 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

There are some things the hat can't keep hidden.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 14 March 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Seeing Mikalah do one of my favorite songs has turned my heart into a turd.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of sixteen year old looks like that? one with a loose snatch.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there goes the show's best all-around performer.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, your violent misogynism is scary!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it just me and the missus or did Vonzelle do so much better than the judges realized?

Scott reminds me of this kid in high school who was so laid back and reserved but went fucking bananas-ass buckwild throwing blows every which way the one day someone called him Pudgels. He was the biggest Guy fan I've ever known. He was also really into Najee.

Amway Robinson (ADK), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The judges hate Vonzell for some reason. I didn't see last night's show but they raked her over the coals the week before for a pretty good performance. Simon, demonstrating that pop-world knowledge is the only kind he has, was simply SHOCKED that a black person would wear cowgirl gear. I told him to get bent and then had to explain to my daughter that that was a bad term.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

You'd think that new Hootie commercial would have put these ugly stereotypes to rest.

king ju, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

This show is quickly on it's way to being totally ass to watch! Mario was seriously one of the only male performers with any versatility...sure, Bo is pretty good at singing his rock songs, but what's gonna happen when they get to, like, soul night?

Meanwhile Smeagol* screeches his way into another round. Fuck that.

*I'm so glad someone besides me recognized how much he looks like Gollum. I think me and my sister ruined him for my mom last week when we were all like "mmm yessss, Ssssssimon, my preciousssss!".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo will do fine with soul night as long as he sticks to the right kind of song -- just about anything by Otis Redding, for instance.

Amway Robinson (ADK), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, so who was this anonymous girl with the horrible voice who got booted?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

You answered your own question, GDP.

Amtrak Rubinek (ADK), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Lindsey wasn't the worst this week, but why prolong the inevitable - she just didn't click (as husky as Chan Marshall though!).
Nikko probably gave the worst performance, vocally - surprising since he's usually smooth and on key.
Anthony went way off a few times too.
Constantine redeemed himself with best performance so far though still not top league.

Nadia by far the breakout/best performance! she's been a personal fave since "Power Of Love".
Bo and Anwar fairly predictable - Bo's comfort in working the crowd would have been more impressive if the vocal had been exceptional.
Scott's seemed the smaller, yet stronger triumph.
Vonzell: direct, emotive, slightly sharp at times - and better than Jessica's laidback runthrough.

who does that leave? Carrie - another personal fave - she could sing the phone book, but I hope she'll get her confidence back soon.

Mikalah? one of the most dynamic of the bunch - both visually and personality-wise - but vocally doesn't do it for me: winner of Broadway Idol though.

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah should be the winner of Shut The Fuck Up Idol. I really, really, really don't like her voice at all and I don't see a sudden Fantasia-esque epiphany in my future regarding her singing.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I was talking yesterday with my coworker-what-is-Mikalah's-cousin -- I told him, "A number of my friends enjoy her and others very much do not" and he replied, "Yeah, she's certainly been divisive -- but better that not leaving any impression at all!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Bo should flip out and punch her in her fuckin beak.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey E Complex,

Either a) that Drudge is right -- first time for everything -- and Mario doesn't want the AI producers to control his career, or b) that Drudge is wrong, that something really IS up with his family, and we should all leave him the hell alone.

Either way, you admit you haven't heard him sing, and you cynically/humorously call the show "American Idiot." So why do you care?

-- The Obligatory Sourpuss
.
.
.
Quite so, T.O.S., except that I was right.

EComplex (EComplex), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah Mikalah does the cute nasal thing, but also the raspy annoying nasal thing.
kinda applies to her personality too - but she stands out from the pack, for better or worse

I don't find her nearly as annoying as many posters, but she was one of my least fave singers straight away so maybe that's why I don't care. I'd rather her on the show for entertainment value than one of the ok but bland singers.
I'd trade her to get Lindsey or Celena back in a instant though.

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

hey E Complex:

I wasn't really referring to your prediction when I wrote all that upthread, but yeah, sure, if Fox and Drudge are right, then you're right too. But that just means Mario was illegal when he entered the contest, because no one with a record deal (current or former) is supposed to enter the contest. So it has nothing to do with "reality TV isn't real" and more with "dude was fraudulent". Maybe reality TV is fine, and it's people who aren't real!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

good point!

EComplex (EComplex), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, your violent misogynism is scary!
-- The Obligatory Sourpuss (expresso222...), March 16th, 2005.

1. DO NOT CALL ME a misogynist. for i am not.
2. its a joke...relax.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile -- Simon Fuller, rich dude.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I just watched the tape of Tuesday's show -- most of Paul's comments are OTM, but the judges were smoking some serious crack at times. Scott was enjoying himself out there? What? The guy has one facial expression. "OK, I'm singing now ... all right, I guess I should walk around a bit now ..." ... totally perfunctory.

Carrie was great, they were waaaay too hard on Lindsey (not like it matters now that she's gone, but still) and Anthony, Nadia is decent but is hardly a steak among hamburgers, etc.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I missed the first two performances, but I just caught Scott and Bo. Both were great. For once, Scott looked like he gave a fuck (even though ripping off his hat and glasses looked as spontaneous as the sun rising).

Bo is still coasting on classic rock, sooner or later he'll have break out of that mold and get stuck doing "I Wanna Dance With Somebody" or "Vision of Love". I can't wait to see what he does with that.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very much in love with Vonzell S.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing worse than a limpid rendition of "Total Eclipse of the Heart"

Aaron A., Wednesday, 23 March 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It figures that I would miss Carrie's performance. And on the night that she rocks out!!

I have no idea what the judges heard in Jessica -- all I could think about was how weak her voice sounded and how much she was getting pwned by the original. Anyhow, she'll obv. be around for another week, so I'm not complaining.

Mikalah is toast.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

They're going to have to redo the whole singing portion again tonight, because the phone numbers were messed up last night.

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott knows exactly what he's doing - reaching out to his ugly fanbase. Brilliantly.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

More Mario V. non-controversy

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i pray for a duet with Mase.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I long for further updates and speculation on the roiling chaos that is American Idol's sideshows from someone with such a deep and abiding disinterest in it, much as I linger on every lustful note of a virgin's declaration of his favorite ways to fuck.

Christ almighty, eat my nuts.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wait what happened to the phones last night? last night was the only time ive ever voted.

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine too! It's probably our fault.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Mikalah gone, and America sheds a silent tear. Nadia in the final three was a small shocker, but nobody in their right mind thought she was in danger.

It's nice to see that their production values for the group commercials remain super-low. Bo Bice and that giant spoon will haunt my dreams for awhile.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Friday, 25 March 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't in my right mind, then!

but I've seen it happen on American Idol before - one of the best ones go (particularly unjust was last season's loss of Jennifer after her best performance "Weekend In New England". and don't get me started on Rickey!).

so glad to see Carrie return to form/grace.
between Carrie, Bo, Nadia and maybe 3 or 4 of the others, feels like this season has the biggest group of talent. so I still hope we get a whole bunch of the kinds of peak performances occasionally seen on previous seasons.

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

We are from Australia and just watched last night's AmI show. We loved Nadia and Anwar. They are both the best. We can't believe Aloha and Mario are not in the show any more.

aussiegirls, Saturday, 26 March 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, they're delving into ancient history ... 1994.

Bo is singing Collective Soul and I feel old.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

When Anwar said he was going to sing R Kelly I got really excited for a second. Curse you, "I Believe I Can Fly!"

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Can't Make You Love Me" is just an excuse for Constantine to leer at us in soft-focus. Oh, wow.

(Also: klieg lights 1, mousse 0!)

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't think Constantine was that good ... Simon was right in that he strived toward a classic pop star performance, i.e. the sort of covers ballad that male singers regularly take to #1 in the UK.

Constantine seems fixated on breaking the mold and surprising us ... either he's trying to distinguish himself from Bo, or he thinks he can get by with Partridge Family and Bonnie Raitt until the final six or seven, and then turn on TEH RAWK when it really counts.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine was light-years better than he's been to date. Wow.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the first half -- everything before Constantine. Did I miss anything/noteworthy enough that I should download it later?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the "rocker" thing is pretty silly. Constantine wasn't particularly great, but he was better than Bo; that isn't the first Black Crowes song he's sung this year, is it?

The problem with themes like "the 90's" is that it leads to Carrie singing Martina McBride, Bo singing Black Crowes, etc. So! Goddamn! Iterative!

xpost - Scott sounds awful early.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Carrie PWNED ... and that story about her dad and his shotguns OMG WHO CAN RESIST THIS GIRL?????

Tep, I wouldn't go out of my way to catch the beginning of the show.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo in worst of the night so far shocker - but here comes Federov...

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Fedorov's outfit was, uh, memorable.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Black Crowes, Constantine sang "Hard to Handle" a few weeks ago.

That was BC's? I've already forgotten what he sung, but didn't they announce that he was singing Collective Soul? Man, the 90's *were* a long time ago ...

xpost after that performance, Anthony seems done, but I'm sure all the ten-year old girls will vote for him, so who knows. But it's looking like him or Scott at this point.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine Scott would lose out to Anthony at this point, both performances taken into consideration, but I could certainly see a Scott-Anthony-Jessica bottom three. I have to say that I'll miss Anthony's overenunciations and indeterminate accent.

Vonzell just fucking killed. Loved her Whitney-in-"Bodyguard" outfit/the cheesy slow dissolves; she just officially became my favorite.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they specifically avoiding themes used in previous seasons? If it were that much a concern, they could just exclude songs previously performed at this stage of past American Idols. The #1s theme was great, but having two decades-themed shows seems thin.

(And if they are avoiding them, how many seasons will it take before we're watching "Commercials jingle night" and "TV show theme song night"? Not that I wouldn't love Carrie to do "The Dukes of Hazzard," or hear Mario's version of "He's the Mayor.")

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Bottom three: Anwar, Scott, Anthony.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd agree, but sub Anwar for Nadia - she was in the bottom last week, AND she sang Melissa Etheridge = death.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The beginning of Anwar's song was ABYSMAL and UNFORGIVABLE. I don't care how clear and powerful his high range is; if he's going to sound like an asthmatic duck on everything below middle-C, he shouldn't sing things that go below middle-C.

I wanted to punch Randy in the face when he made that "a lot of great singers can't sing in tune in their lower range" comment. IF YOU CAN'T SING IN TUNE IN A INTEGRAL PART OF YOUR VOCAL REGISTER, YOU ARE NOT A GREAT SINGER. Dude should shut the fuck up and go back to playing bass.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Simon was right -- Jessica can sing but she was missing a "likeability factor". In retrospect, this isn't a huge surprise since those sorts of singer live week to week instead of accumulating loyalty, which has led to good singer getting turfed early in past seasons.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck, I hurriedly typed that while trying to watch a CBC program about the American conservative media ...

In retrospect, this isn't a huge surprise since those sorts of singers live week to week instead of accumulating loyalty from viewers,...

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

what's with the worst guys getting a free pass? one by one the girls are being picked off

and Nadia in the bottom 3 again is a travesty

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 31 March 2005 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

this week was a strong show, but some of the best performances had the most off-pitch moments. in other words, weaker singers gave some of the most dynamic renditions.

kind of bittersweet - but it shows that their showmanship and ambition outstrips their current vocal abilities and control. ...for now

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 31 March 2005 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Who were the bottom 3??? Jessica, Nadia and who?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(PS: America get one sense of pitch)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Nadia, Anwar, and Jessica

Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Teenaged girls in geek-loving shockah!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Can't Make You Love Me" is just an excuse for Constantine to leer at us in soft-focus. Oh, wow.

For the amusement of the thread, a quote froma very good friend of mine, to her TV, during Constantine's performance:

"Stop EYEFUCKING me!! I HATE YOU!!!"

Ash (ashbyman), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Why haven't I been posting on/reading this!?

My Mom and I had this conv the other week:

me: "Mom, I just got an Idol update: Anwar sang R. Kelly?!"
mom: (wearily) "It was NOT 'IGNITION REMIX.'"
me: "GOD DAMN IT!!"

hampsterfrench (hampsterfrench), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Surprised that Fedorov escaped, but Jessica wasn't distinguishing herself. Early on I thought the first four eliminations could be women; I don't think Carrie's going anywhere, but if Nadia or Vonzell are flat next week, they could make the bottom three again. Anthony still seems the odds-on pick to be eliminated, but everyone said that about John Stevens last year.

http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2005/3/robinson.html

Meanwhile, this might be our next overblown controversy:

Rumors of American Idol finalist Anwar Robinson's sexual orientation have been circling for awhile, but AfterElton.com has unearthed a personal ad that should help settle the issue: a quick search of African American community site BlackPlanet.com's personal ads for men-seeking-men in New Jersey brings up a profile for Anwar Robinson, clearly identifiable from photos (the same photos which have also been used on a few of his fan sites).

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Just watched the tape ... Anthony and Scott were horrible again -- one of them has to go.

Nadia smoked. Everyone loved Constantine last week, but I wasn't feeling it ... but this week, I think I understood what others were feeling last week. Randy might be right -- maybe rock isn't his calling after all.

Bo completely choked this week. I don't believe for a single second that he chose his song at random. That was an uptempo rock arrangement and his vocals were all over the place.

Anwar is starting to bug me with the way he tries to oversing EVERYTHING.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My b/f's cousin told me the following story on the drive to Ann Arbor, no lie.

Her roommate went to the Chicago production of "Rent" and some people from the cast invited her and her roommate to go out with them. They got drunk in a bar downtown and the roommate ended up going to the hotel room of CONSTANTINE.
Then, a girl from NY in one of her classes was telling the same story, only it took place in New York, and Constantine took a different girl to his hotel room.

Holly (an appletross), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Somebody get Fantasia a pop filter ASAP!

I'm betting Scott goes home tonight, for perfectly transparent reasons.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

nico has got to go

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

someone plz send the fat asshole home

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

asshole beat up his baby mama

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i really can't figure out how he's still on. he sings for shit, he's ugly AND fat, and he comes off like a huge asshole. i figured the story of him beating up his gf coming out would be the final straw. wtf. the other white boy who can't sing, that clay aiken elf looking fuck, i can at least figure out how he's still on.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Who was at the bottom with Nikko?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott "Psycho" Savol. Why in the world did he stay in the competition?

Leon WK (Ex Leon), Thursday, 7 April 2005 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

cuz nico sings like shit. vonzell was the other one in the bottom which is just insane.

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 7 April 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I disagree ... would you really say that Vonzell is better than any of the six who were left on the couch (besides Anthony, obv)?

I'm with Blount -- Anthony is still there because the ten year old girls love him, but I have no clue who Scott appeals to. Seriously, does anybody have a theory about this?

The only thing I can think of is the Guys >> Girls disparity this season, which has been hammered into the fans by the judges and everyone else, and Scott is being carried along by the slipstream of this effect.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Anwar still on?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The only people left on the show whom I actually want to hear or don't mind hearing are Vonzell, Nadia, Bo, Carrie and sometimes Constantine. Everyone else needs to go home now.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

agreed

Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it just my DVR, or was the clip of Constantine shown for the recap COMPLETELY different from his "live" performance? He flubbed the final line of "Bohemian Rhapsody" and turned away from the camera, but in the recap they showed him (probably at dress rehersal) singing it right and staring head-on.

(Yes, I'm analyzing American Idol. Help me.)

chules (chules), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I DUNO ITS STILL ON HERE BUT OMG FEDEROVV DID GOOD ACTUALLY!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, I shouldn't have clicked on this thread, I'm in the middle of the tape now!

Scott is stinking up the place again, and amazingly he had the exact same angry scowl as a baby.

Anthony was shockingly great!

Bo kinda blew it again ... all along, you just knew that he was DYING to bust out something like "Freebird", and it sounded totally uninspired. If he can't nail his signature tune, then he's got a problem.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, CARRIE IS SINGING PAT BENETAR!! This erection won't go away for hours.

Why do the judges always become belligerent when Carrie sings anything other than country?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine's anonciation (sp?) was off on a few lines, but otherwise, that was an incredible performance, one of the top two or three of the season thus far.

It looks like Nadia's done for.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Constantine was pretty great tonight. I hate the dude, so that's hard for me to say. He missed some notes and chunks of lines, but that hardly matters.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it just my DVR, or was the clip of Constantine shown for the recap COMPLETELY different from his "live" performance? He flubbed the final line of "Bohemian Rhapsody" and turned away from the camera, but in the recap they showed him (probably at dress rehersal) singing it right and staring head-on.

Upon further review, this is the case. The audio track was certainly replaced - his vocals are higher in the mix, and the piano part is different. He doesn't turn his head toward stage left, either.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The recaps are almost always from the previous night's dress rehearsal.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, scratch the "almost".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Top performances: Constantine, Anthony.
Way overpraised (IMO, not that she did poorly): Vonzell
Doomed by song choice: Nadia
Sucked ass: Bo
Better than they had any right to be: Carrie, Scott

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I now watch this show purely for Paula. Surely she will not make it to the end of the season before she is institutionalized!

quincie, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

She's going to join Pat O'Brien in rehab.

I have missed the last two weeks of AI, since Dr. Who is on the CBC now at the same time.

Leon WK (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Nadia gone, unsurprisingly. Picking Crystal Gayle was a massive mistake.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ok now my personal fave is gone
and I'm totally confused by this season
are any of them consistent/strong/interesting enough to be Idol?

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 14 April 2005 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan does not even mention Anwar's name anymore.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonight, Constantine Maroulis and Dave Gahan are separated at birth. I think it's the eye makeup.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Paula is sober tonight!!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

They get 450 bucks to spend on their outfit and Savol is STILL wearing Jnco's.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy is simply not good enough. I can't believe people saying "Anwar" and "out of tune" in the same sentence when we have THIS bitch still on the screen.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Anwar's gay in case anyone was still wondering.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

He was literally prancing out there.


Look, I don't give a fuck what happens out there, Savol needs to get gone, TONIGHT.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't wait to see Bo's dancing.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Randy: "Bo Bice is back, America!"
Me: "Was he missing?"
My mom: "He went on a reconnaissance mission for some Frizz-Eaze."

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

If Scott doesn't go this week, then it's time to paint a face on a fat little pillow and call it a voodoo doll. Bo, Anthony, and Vonzell all gave their best performances thus far, while Carrie and Constantine were also near the top of their game. Anwar wasn't good either (the first half was *horrible* -- why does he insist on always starting in the low register?) but he got better at the end (as usual for him).

Scott's complete lack of energy and enthusiasm was completely exposed by tonight's theme -- the voters (whoever they are, I still can't figure out who this guy appeals to) must have realized that.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.geniusfactory.org/scottnadia.jpg

My eyes!

I'm thinking it's Anwar's week to go, though; something about Simon's "regular guy" comment rings so true that I've got this funny feeling that Anthony and Anwar will both go before Scott does. Scott certainly appealed to me at one point by virtue of how out-of-place he seemed.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:34 (twenty-one years ago)

someone talk of proper flag handling etiquette.

kacka thompson (kacka), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

let's talk about that blonde meatloaf

kacka thompson (kacka), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

that corn-fed wisconsin dreamboat blondie

kacka thompson (kacka), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I missed the part where Anthony developed him a set of pipes.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(By that, I mean biceps.)

(Clay Aiken's "transformation" has nothing on this.)

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(By "biceps," I mean guns!)

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed Constantine's performance last night but dude basically has outsung everyone on the stage the previous three weeks.

Anthony is frightening me; if he continues improving at the same pace he will be untouchable.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(Oh yeah, and between Anwar and Scott, Anwar should get bounced before Scott because Anwar is ALWAYS much more flagrantly and offensively out of tune.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ooops, one last thing; I missed Carrie's performance but her clip from the dress rehearsal was FUCKING AWFUL and based on that she should have been voted off right after Mikalah.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Anwar should get bounced before Scott because Anwar is ALWAYS much more flagrantly and offensively out of tune.

No one has ever been more flagrantly out of tune on AI than Scott. At least not since Josh, that military guy from season 2.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(Plus Anwar chose "September," which automatically means he shouldn't get bounced.)

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Have we already forgotten the hobbit from last season?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, it's mad impressive that Anwar has a full-voice D, but he cannot sing anything below middle-C and he's maybe sung the beginning of his song in tune once? In many ways he's more frustrating than someone like Mikalah because there is talent there but he's really fucking lazy about everything except for his money notes (Vonzell has a similar problem to a lesser degree).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I confess I didn't watch a single episode from S3.

I had to go back and look at some photos of Anthony to see how far he's come, and was sort of crestfallen to see that he wasn't exactly elf-ugly like Clay was to begin with, so his "transformation" isn't quite as astounding as it seemed in my head last night. Morning after indeed.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

You didn't miss a thing, S3 was mostly craptacular.

Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Perry OTM, and confirming my suspicions w/r/t Anwar's laziness. The reason Anwar frustrates me much more than Scott does, independent of the domestic violence and all, is that he's quite obviously had significant vocal training and appears to be content to coast on his melisma and glory notes.

In addition, he inflects everything with the same irritating quasi-Stevie approach; I'm very lukewarm on Carrie, say (and Constantine to a lesser extent), but at least she has the good sense to sing different songs in different ways, which sets her apart from virtually everybody else in the competition.

I don't think Scott, meanwhile, has had much training at all, and certainly not as much as Anwar. He has a very raw, undeveloped chest voice, which is problematic when he's singing in his lower register, but it's something that could be rectified with practice and knowledge of vocal resonance.

I dunno about Vonzell, though. Sort of like Nadia, I think her problems stem more from lack of breath control than anything else.

xpost - And yeah, nobody touches JPL in terms of mediocrity.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

C'mon guys, the only one with star quality is VONZELL! Not only is there great potential for awesome nicknames but the girl is a great singer, is very fun to watch, makes you feel good by just watching her, is totally adorable(that giggle!). I really want to spend a day with her.

I havent seen this show before but I saw Fantasia performing on it a few weeks ago. How the hell did she win this thing last year? She was like a fucking monster with her "get ugly" routine.

I know fat people are people too but...Scott's hands are just too much for me to handle.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, Bo and Nadia also have/had scads and scads of star quality and Anthony is starting to develop star quality through sheer vocal chops (and looking more and moe like Abram from Road Rules South Pacific, ha).

Constantine has "Oh my God, I can't stop looking at this gigantic freak" quality.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

And Savol?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo... also have/had scads and scads of star quality

So does Scott Stapp.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh.

The commercial with the car made out of paper wasn't nearly as unintentionally funny as Carrie playing guitar.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

ew, glad i missed that

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Their singing was good though -- easily their best ensemble performance thus far.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(although that's not saying much, since the ensemble performances have sucked this season)

(I also hate ensemble performances in general)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

(in general = on American Idol)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

In teh future, all instances of "in general" will be understood to mean this.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't want anyone to think I was hating on all musical theatre, but yeah, OK.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

So does Scott Stapp.

Erm, yeah. That's true. Not sure what you're driving at, beyond maybe "star quality isn't the end-all, be-all"...?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm driving at Bo makes me want to stick daggers through my eardrums, and witnessing the praise he's getting makes me want to shove the blades further until they reach my brain.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i missed thursday's episode...who was booted off?

anonymous celebrity (anonymous celebrity), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

thursday=wednesday

anonymous celebrity (anonymous celebrity), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Anwar, as predicted.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Anwar!

http://pressroom.hallmark.com/Images/Christmas/2003/Sympathy.jpg


My mom called me while I was asleep and opened with "....did you hear?" I will miss your eyes and blazer collection, but this had to happen. Next stop: SAVOL MUST GO. THEN BO. VONZELL TO THE FINISH.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I didn't like Anwar either so I'll hold off on the voodoo doll for anothe week. But next time, there are no excuses.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There is now NO cute boy. Fuck an American Idol. I'm going gay for Carrie, I guess.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony's bland as get out, but I wouldn't call him NOT cute.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone reading the Television Without Pity recaps? http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=89

hampsterfrench (hampsterfrench), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He looks like a duckling, dude.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i love carrie

charleston charge (chaki), Friday, 22 April 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

If true, ew ew ew ew ew.

Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Friday, 22 April 2005 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

That explains the pill-popping.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 22 April 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://love.blackplanet.com/Profile/view.html?profile_id=2855519

I sent him a crush!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Three scandals in a row! Though mine was admittedly old.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a dream about Anwar last night. :(:(:(

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Do tell.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I do believe Bo Bice is wearing a Thanksgiving tablecloth.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Vonzell sucked bigtime. Somehow, the judges covered for her, and I'm surprised they didn't notice despite the acoustics or high volume in the hall or whatever excuse they have for not realizing how out of tune she was.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony is a monster. It's official. He took on Celine Dion and won. It was a ballsy move because he could have crashed and burned spectacularly (like Vonzell did), and he wasn't great, but he was plenty good enough. And as Simon said, his core fanbase will flip for that peformance.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Constantine. My ears.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if there's anything Constantine could have done to make a Nickelback song interesting. Yikes.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

He looked completely dejected after hearing the judges comments, but that's what he gets for singing NICKELFUCKINGBACK.

All those comments I've been making on ILM about silently rooting for Bo and Constantine so that they can get the first #1 rock song since Nickelback ... karma.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The camera is not doing Scott's meatbeard any favors in this one.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell left the door open a crack, but I think the fat kid is finally done for.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell wasn't as good as Randy and Paula said she was, but she wasn't nearly as bad as MIR is making her out to be; that honor is reserved for CARRIE OMG.

Basically Carrie, Constantine and Scott need to feel deeply embarrassed about what they did.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell had some of the night's peak *moments*, which is part of the problem this year: some of the 'most consistent' singers (Bo, Carrie) are often boring (predictable & -especially- lack of dynamics), while the weaker singers tend to combine out of tune bits with (sometimes great) over the top grand slams.

what I liked about Vonzell last night is the peaks were tender and she was glowing(!) - a rapturous vibe...

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it always feels weird being blown away by a contestant's great early performance then sitting thru drab same-only-less-so routines.

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

it's called range

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN NASHVILLE STAR ON USA? THEY ARE MUCH BETTER SINGERS...oops caps.

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

They are, but the idea of sitting through one of those shows and listening to the Nashville hit engine makes me break out in hives.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i like simon

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Time to start painting my pillows. I've got a box of thumbtacks all ready to go.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit!

Well, that was unexpected.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Star Wars fans be voting for Porkins. There's no other reason why he's still there!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

america in choosing fat and retarded over gay shocker

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

so we can almost rank the votes now?:

#1 & #2: Carrie & Bo
#3: Scott
#4: Vonzell
#5: Anthony

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wow! paula cried ahahaha

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Constantine's brother was hotter than actual Constantine

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to say that I'm not at all surprised and, based on Tuesday's performances, Constantine should never have even been in the competition.

(Based on his previous performances, he should have been close to winning, but HE WAS ATROCIOUSLY AWFUL ON TUESDAY.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

He was my bottom person, but that's mainly because I've decided to pretend that Scott is not real. Or maybe I've become accustomed to the future that America has chosen being rubbed in their faces by Scott Savol: American Idol as a reality + subsequent nuclear fallout, riots, etc.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott wasn't even in the bottom three? That's bizarro. In a way it would be awesome if he won, America deserves an idol made out of a mountain of spam and spousal abuse.

Leon Jones Reynolds (Ex Leon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

o i'm totally voting for the dude like crazy now. i encourage yall to do the same.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Based on his previous performances, he should have been close to winning, but HE WAS ATROCIOUSLY AWFUL ON TUESDAY.

So we've learned that Anthony and Scott have the most devoted fans, people who will support them no matter what they do. Bo, Vonzell, and Constantine were living week to week -- voter memory of past strong performances could be erased if they had one bad day (like Constantine did). Carrie falls somewhere in the middle -- she's never been in the bottom three, but she's never been bad enough to deserve it.

I guess none of this is a surprise, because the least talented people draw the most devoted fan bases every season.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

More like America had wandering eyes after being ravished by Con week after week.

At this point, I see a top 2 trailer park showdown pitting Bo against Scott. Golly, I just don't know who to root for!

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew, Scott rooting Bo slash.

Leon Jones Reynolds (Ex Leon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

NICOLE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE PENALTY BOX

The Ghost of Scrubbing Bubbles For The BRANE, Plz (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i talked to my stepmother today and she was PISSED about last night's results. OUTRAGED.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

So much scandal this season...I am actually disappointed (versus my usual scandalized/giddy) about this one.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0427051_bo_bice_american_idol_1.html

rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Bo. Bo, Bo, Bo.

I'm convinced that most AI voters are not connected to the webernet and receive most of their news through television news sources (i.e., they only know what Idol wants us to know.) Evidence: Savol is still apparently representative of the American Dream, and Anwar was voted off the moment he unequivocally pranced on-screen, NOT when it was revealed through googling that he was in fact gay.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

when it was revealed through googling that he was in fact gay.

You googled him! Anyway, yeah, I'm not surprised, he did once say the 90s were a blur for him. I also heard this morning that his GF is pregnant. Big news week for the guy. I doubt either one of these tidbits will hurt him much.

rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Thursday, 28 April 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

CNN picked up the Bo story:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/29/tv.american.idol.ap/index.html

All these "Bo was forthcoming about his previous indiscretions, etc." comments from FOX, I don't know, I have trouble picturing Bo with the AI producers saying "I was arrested twice on drug charges" and the FOX people saying "OK, great, thanks for telling us that".

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 29 April 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

How come no one has run with the fact that Bo is named Bo and he looks like he smells?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought his name was the most hilarious part of this season!
BO BICE

Leon Jones Reynolds (Ex Leon), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Say it fast and it sounds like "Bobbus" -- my grandmother's baby talk for "baby." Creeps me out.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm trying to catch up with this again but I have no real attachment to any of the stars remaining. Scott is and will always be a trainee security guard. Carrie will be better when she is played by Reece Witherspoon in a tv biop on her life in about fifteen years time. Anthony is evil. Bo is a ho hum rocker drafted to play a "music" guy on a loose remake of Full House. Vonzelle is the least offensive but only insofar as she is an inoffensive version of contestants we've seen before (if only Nadia had tried to go the prof. route like Vonzelle has, she would have totally captured America's hearts SURELY?!? I loved Nadia even in her moments of folly).

Who am I supposed to care about?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 April 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Lieber and Stoller night, WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Round One:

Bo > Carrie > Vonzell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott > Anthony

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought vonzell was awful also

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

this thing is Bo's now

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I must have missed some crucial episodes where Bo was amazing. Mind, this episode hasn't aired in Australia yet.

When is Carrie gonna sing "Redneck Woman"?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone heard about the website/movement to discredit the show by mass-voting for Scott? not sure what the link is (maybe someone's already linked it above?)

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Carrie is horrible, guys! (I didn't see tonight.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan, Carrie ruled it tonight (Bo was marginally better).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone heard about the website/movement to discredit the show by mass-voting for Scott? not sure what the link is (maybe someone's already linked it above?)

I think the Vote for the Worst thing (votefortheworst.com?) has been pretty widely discredited as statistically insignificant.

I also don't know what it says about nights like last night, when Scott was pretty clearly not the worst contestant.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

dear god they're doing "a message to you rudy"

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - OMG.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank the lord.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

One good thing about this (among like a zillion others) is that all Scott's American-Dream-regular-guy-dream-maker-whatever fans are going STRAIGHT TO BO now.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The say the neon lights are bright in Shaker Heights

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

They played the most recent ep over here. Carrie was great! Vonzell was great! Bo's first song was great and then he was strangely and vaguely dud for his second song! I hate Anthony so much!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 7 May 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What happened to Vonzell? Did something bad happen to her family? Why were the judges being so nice to her?

Her performance SUCKED. She definitely sounded nervous and unsure of herself, and she was missing notes all over the place.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo just PWWWWNNNNNNNNNEDDDDDD "For the Love of Money" -- holy shit!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell isn't strong in lower register - though she's still my fave of the remaining (cos most soulful / never on autopilot ?)
but on "For The Love Of Money" Bo TORE IT UP tonight!

weak night for Carrie - and even though he arguably always does 'his thing' Bo showed he could straddle genres way more easily
(after tonight's urban coke hustler, when's he gonna sing "Life In The Fast Lane" ?)

even when he sings well I don't rate Anthony - too Hallmark

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the new Backstreet Boys single as bad as Anthony made it sound last week?

I thought Vonzell was really excellent last week (contra the opinions on this thread) but it still makes me sad to remember Nadia's performance of "As Long As He Needs Me" and wonder...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep on flashing back to Rickey Smith's performances of "It Might Be You" and "I've Done Enough Dyin' Today" and Jennifer Hudson's "Weekend In New England", my faves since Kelly Clarkson's "Stuff Like That There" and peak version of "Before Your Love".
maybe to remember why I watch/rate the show...

mega Girls Aloud fan that I am, I recently procured the DVD for Pop Rivals
which added a new fun dimension to that group and the whole music reality TV thing

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed some crucial Jennifer Hudson performances I think, though I saw and was suitably impressed/mystified by her "I Have Nothing" (perhaps my fave R&B ever?). Vonzell's was good to, but the best Idol performance of this was actually on Australian Idol last year by Rickie-Lee, which just ached.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Jennifer Hudson, George Huff and Latoya London were all phenomenal. Like, scarily awesome.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah the Huffster....this show needs him all the time.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Jennifer Hudson, George Huff and Latoya London were all phenomenal. Like, scarily awesome.

Yeah, they all were robbed. The final two of Diana and Fantasia was a big letdown.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

La Toya had the pipes but she was a boring singer with zero personality to go with her diva-like arrogance and standoffishness. I was thrilled when she got the boot and I'm glad that they started picking a wider variety of singers this season instead of cookie-cutter Whitney/Mariah wannabes.

George was consistently good but never great. During the last four or five weeks he was on the show, he couldn't deliver one single excellent, blowaway performance. Yeah, he still made it to the top five but it was a weak group -- once Jennifer got the boot, it was obvious that Fantasia would win so there's no reason that George couldn't have made it to the final two if he'd excelled in the slightest.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony's gone - so not a bad final 3
someone's got to do something phenomenal to keep it exciting though

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 12 May 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I honestly haven't a clue who will win in the inevitable Bo-Carrie finale (and I'm not even sure who I want to win).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 12 May 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone heard constantine's band? the cd came out yesterday.

charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 12 May 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell doing "Don't Leave Me This Way" was the song of the night for me, followed by Bo's "For The Love Of Money".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 May 2005 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

How about Paula bringing the criticism during this week and last? Is she trying to overcompensate her recent bad publicity by trying to make intelligent comments for once?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Simon said that Bo is better with corny ballads than he is with rockers. That might have been the dumbest thing Simon has said this season. Only the guy who brought Westlife into the world could have said something like that.

Carrie was great, but she did look nervous, though. And she did miss that last note just a tad.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Acapella -- talk about ballsy ...

... and speaking of ballsy, Carrie's following that with AIR SUPPLY? Why didn't she pick a country song? I figured that decision was a no-brainer.

She sounded shaky near the beginning, but nailed it by the end. But she definitely finished last in round two.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that explains that. Shania was a perfect choice (by Randy), but again, she didn't seem to be at her best. Regardless, Carrie has never been in the bottom three this season, so I'd be shocked if she doesn't move on to the final.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

AIR SUPPLY. Discuss.

I also can't wait to see what insipid Diane Warren-esque ballads have been written for the contestants to slaughter this year. If the tsunami benefit single was any indication of things to come, we're in for some good times.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

why didn't they just crown Bo the Idol last night? Damn he was good.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Any of the three at this point could win and it would be fine. Despite my earlier thoughts, this trio rises way above mediocrity--they're surprisingly good, in different ways.

Bo is a good singer and a natural performer. He'll probably win. I agree with Randy though, he's no rocker. Good singer--yes, and a showman, but there's no edge, none of the desperation that ensures the Stones' 2005 tour is going to sell out stadiums just as they did FORTY YEARS AGO. But, Michael Bolton had a big career too, and that's more who Bo's like. A vocal stylist. I know it will be impossible for anyone on this board to accept, but that's hardly an insult. He could be huge. Bo should also cut his horrible locks. He'll look about ten years younger with short hair. He holds back a bit emotionally too, despite the swagger and leering winks at the audience.

Carrie can really sing, although she needs to stay in her vocal range--the lower register was shaky. She could be a big star, I think, IF she wants to be. Her will seems to be unclear. She hasn't learned to sell onstage the way Bo does so effortlessly. You can see this in her face: Okay, now sing, okay, now emote, okay, now dance--sort of--I really don't approve of dancin' but, okay, well, here goes. So you think for a split second, nah, she ain't got it--then she belts and your hair is blown back. It's all up to her at this point.

Vonzell, like Carrie is a powerful singer who really grabs the song and claims it. But, also like Carrie, she hasn't quite figured out that this is a sales job, the singing is incidental. And in cruel, simon like fashion, she's not as pretty as a Beyonce or a Whitney--she's closer to someone like Celine Dione (although no one is as equine looking as Celine by any means). But Celine can definitely sing. Vonzell's challenge, in the long term, is to cultivate intimacy. If you're not knock out pretty, be more accessible, more loveable in a way. Then when the power of her voice hits, you're defenseless.

I hadn't seen the show since the intitial audition episodes. I was genuinely surprised how good the three finalists were. Simon's management company is feeling really good about this year's crop, as his sunny demeanor last night confirmed.

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I also thought it was hilarious to see Clive Davis last night as the guest judge. Who's this guy that looks like my granddad? What could he possibly know about pop music? Who? Huh? Oh. Never mind.

EComplex (EComplex), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently it's supposed to be a big shocker re: who gets booted.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ecomplex OTM w/r/t to Clive -- that was my exact reaction!

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently it's supposed to be a big shocker re: who gets booted.

So it's Bo?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently it's supposed to be a big shocker re: who gets booted.

Assuming that this is more than a rumour being used to build hype, it makes me think that Carrie is going home :(

Carrie can really sing, although she needs to stay in her vocal range--the lower register was shaky.

She had never sung in such a low register before last night (I suppose you're referring to the beginning of "Man! I Feel Like a Woman").

Vonzell is good, but she brings a lot of qualities to the table that we've seen on Idol before. Her strongest asset is that she's completely un-diva-like and seems very accessible, very down to earth. But voice-wise -- does anybody think that she's a better singer than, say, Jennifer or LaToya from last season?

American Idol has never had a Bo or a Carrie, which is why I'm rooting for them. Change is good.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

But voice-wise -- does anybody think that she's a better singer than, say, Jennifer or LaToya from last season?

Nope, not at all. This doesn't change my opinion that she is one of the better singers in this year's finals.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I just do not like Carrie's voice at all. She is Carmen Rasmussen on steroids and I have absolutely no desire to listen to that.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't mention Carmen! I am still trying to banish her bleating from my memory.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Vonzell booted in big-shocker non-shocka! That "Worst Auditions" special tomorrow might be more interesting than the past three or four weeks of the actual show.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Thursday, 19 May 2005 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

HERE WE GO, HO.

If this opening number is Bo's debut single, then it sucks. His vocal is no great shakes either, and he doesn't look comfortable singing it.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Why must their debut singles be these treacle-soaked cheese ballads? Why can't they get their in-house writer drones to write some rock and country?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Beats the hell out of me. You'd think the success (and generally great songs) of the last Kelly Clarkson record would be a signal that you don't need ersatz Diane Warren material to make a splash. To be fair, Bo's contribution erred on the Edwin McCain side of the usual Idol turgidity, but that's not saying a whole lot.

Bo's "Vehicle" was nice, though. No surprise.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Carrie is sooooooooooo nervous. She also looks about seven years older tonight.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That was incredibly disappointing. The new songs are blah, neither Bo or Carrie looked happy or comfortable singing them (which undoubtedly contributed to them being more nervous than usual), their vocals were all over the place -- just a big mess all around.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

SO. MUCH. CARRIE. HATE.

Is she physically incapable of singing in tune?????

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

please dont say who won for two hrs!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo had major pitch issues too. I'd say it was about equal in the out-of-tune sweepstakes.

Chaki -- results aren't until tomorrow.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck that shit!!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Bo had minor pitch issues. He had notes that were iffy.

Carrie had ENTIRE PHRASES that were iffy, like maybe 55% percent of them.

I HATE HER VOICE SO MUCH.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

not exciting then - and a 2 for one win either way
but like Dan I feel Bo's voice has gotten more expressive, likable (beyond the ace karaoke aspects),
while Carrie's singing's become more tense, shrill - off at times
(a shame because in the early stages of the show she got some good ones in)

big fizzle though...
they really make you work for the good stuff -
how many hours did we sit through for the bits that were worth it?

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully we can agree that the biggest loser of the night was whoever wrote those shit-poor original songs. Let's see ... we've got a rocker and country singer in the finals, so let's have them sing some somnambulant shlock-balladry. Brilliant.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yay

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 May 2005 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

OK - that was WAAY more entertaining
the All Star Medley alone was worth tuning in for

I mean for schlock factor: Anthony, Anwar & KENNY G beat a million bad auditions

that Neko, Scott & George Benson version of "On Broadway" was SLICK

when Nadia got up and rocked "Walk This Way" I was - THAT's what I'm talking bout
that's MY American Idol!

& is Lindsey still hot or what?!

Carrie actually sounded relaxed on her country duet

and Bo was like, FUCK WINNING, I sang with Skynyrd!!!

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

oops forgot Vonzell, great as usual
but Billy Preston, now there's someone who's come a long way...

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 26 May 2005 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
has anyone heard carrie's album? is it any good? and how many albums and singles has she sold?

Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

No, no, and...no.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
God, I can't wait for AI to come back on.

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 8 December 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

GEORGE HUFF

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

!

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Friday, 9 December 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.