POPTIMISM 6 - It's on Friday 14th October

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Back again, not a number ones night this time but simply good clean pop fun.

Downstairs @ The Polar Bear, 30 Lisle Street, 7 till 2, £2 entry / £4 before 11, free gifts for early punters, all welcome etc etc.

Guest DJs this month are:

- Kat!! (of General Khaki and Livejournal fame)

and

- Robster!!! (of ILX fame)

What will they play? WHO KNOWS. Though a little bird says to expect some of that 90s dance we seem to promise every time. There may also be the Heaven vs Hell celestial pop war, c/o Pete.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

whoop, excitement etc :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

what no swedes then?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

No, someone has emailed me asking to do a Sweden set but we don't have room for another guest this month.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Might be. Heaven and hell suggestions of course are always happy to be taken.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

gabbapop cover of 'monkey gone to heaven' needed

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

BBC 7 BBC Heaven

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

hurrah! this time i will stop at maoz for falafels on the way, thusly preventing coma.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

this time i will stop texting RJG on the way

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

thusly preventing comma.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I have emailed you a bunch of heaven vs hell suggestions!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Ginger Spice's solo album "Scream if you wanna go faster" had a song on it called Heaven and Hell. Or so I'm told.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

£2 entry / £4 before 11

so it's cheaper after 11? woot! there's no way i'll get there til midnight thanks to my crappy job shiftwork thing...

oh, and ken, since you're here, look what i found:

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― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

feh.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Oops, that should not be "before"!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

so it's actually more expensive, the later it gets? you have to pay more, to spend less time there? what kinda bizarro logic is that?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

it's to motivate people to turn up earlier, presumably. surely you are well aware of this common tactic?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

bar staff's overtime pay doesn't come from nowhere, you know.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

The theory is:

- people turning up late will mostly be randoms looking for a place to drink late
- so we might as well fleece them
- also charging more will put off people who don't like pop but just want somewhere to booze
- which means we can spend the last 2 hours playing great records our crowd loves rather than fending off people asking for the Kaiser Chiefs or Wasis.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

it also helps keep my brain active, by making me do different sums over the course of the evening.

― suckling pig at a rave (alix), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

talking of which, i was going to request "i predict a riot"...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

it's to motivate people to turn up earlier, presumably. surely you are well aware of this common tactic?

of course. but i'm also aware of the parallel tactic (practiced by many a big club like Fabric and so forth) which slashes the price for the final section of the evening, thus allowing better vfm for extreme latecomers but still ensuring their custom and thus cash.

i don't need motivation to turn up earlier, i need a job which doesn't keep me in the office (in E4ling) til 11pm :-(

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

it also helps keep my brain active, by making me do different sums over the course of the evening.

Actually you still only need to multiply by two...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

haha wow charlie! were there any of you there?

i was wasted by the time i got there (beer champaign and whiskey from work), and that's a pretty apt representation of me!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Multiplying by 2 = quite enough for me, at 11pm, on top of day at work. Plus sometimes it gets really complex, when people pay using different denominations of cash, or when one person pays for more than one person, if you see what I mean. Especially if I happen to be trying to eat a sandwich at the same time.

― suckling pig at a rave (alix), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

If it's a slowish night we tend not to enforce the bonus price anyway.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you could make a little list to make things easier:

BEFORE 11pm:

1 person = £2
2 people = £4
3 people = £6 etc

AFTER 11pm:

1 person = £4
2 people = £8
3 people = £12
Man in Oasis t-shirt = £24:74etc

And so and so forth...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

b-b-but all my other t-shirts are/will be in the wash...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Dissensus = £500 per person + VAT

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

SHOCK NEWS!

This will be the LAST EVER POPTIMISM (at the Polar Bear) - some kind of shake-up is happening with its downstairs club area and they don't want/need us anymore (or they're closing).

So do please try and make this as we're going to go out with a flourish.

And of course we're looking for a new venue (sixth time lucky!)

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

My advice - set sail for gayer pastures.

― BARMS, Friday, 30 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

The rainbow flag flying above the Poley Bear probably did put off the gayer inclined innit :)

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

How am I ever going to "pick up chicks" in gayer pastures?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

My advice - set sail for grayer pastures

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

i doubt any other london venue has a picture of anastasia myskina on the wall :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I missed that! I wuv her!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

i bet there are plenty, to be honest

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

or maybe that's just a dream

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

it was the first thing I saw when I walked into the Polar Bear for the first time! it's upstairs, a photo from when she won Roland Garros. when I saw it I knew good things would happen at that venue.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if it's because they figured out that all that everyone drinks at poptimism are those £5 bottles of wine and they weren't making an awful lot of them! (solution is surely to up the prices of wine though if that is the case)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

MONEY IS THAT ALL THAT MATTERS TO THESE PEOPLE?

er, yes.

it's all my fault. me and my diet coke diet. apologies.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

they probably make more money out of a glass of diet coke to be honest.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

you were the only person who actually kept the whole club going!!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Well we have one more chance to drink them dry of Blossom Hill.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Is Anastasia Myskina some kind of gay icon or sumthin'?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

well ken, i'll try and keep it going wherever it next goes. but i wouldn't recommend caesar's in streatham as a suitable alternative venue.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

How unfortunate, about the Polar Bear. Perhaps you will be invited back after the refit or whatever.

Really, what you need is a village hall/war memorial/TocH/community centre type space, I think.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

i'd have to say, i think it's probably got something to do with the smell (of the building, not us). i've been given a name of someone to contact at the PubCo, not sure i can be botherd, we'll get the real story from aaron in a fortnight anyway ;)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

marcello may be onto something here (well not the streatham place) but

ROWANS!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Come on ken, you haven't suggested that shite bar in Holloway Road yet

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

The thing is that surely if it was environmental health they'd close the place down now, not in 3 weeks? Or is that not how it works.

I repeat what I said in Another Place: ZYRUS GENESYS.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Poptimism with added tenpin bowling? It'll never catch on.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

i don't think the famous cock has a dance floor!!! (xxpost)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

No, not that shite bar the other one... mind you, the choice is endless

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Is Anastasia Myskina some kind of gay icon or sumthin'?

I've heard rumours that gay men may possibly have somewhat of an interest in women's tennis. Nothing confirmed though, so keep it quiet.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

I've got an interest in women's tennis too... knowhorrimean? phwooarrr... eh? eh?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Argh, if it's the last one, then I've got to go. But for god's sake, SOMEONE KEEP ME AWAY FROM THE PINK WINE.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

erm but i thought the idea, since it's the last one, is to totally take advantage of their stupid wine pricing and WRECK THE PLACE at the end of the night in a drunken stupor. and leave a lump of poo by the entrance as we exit.

So get the wines in!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Well then, Ken, you're taking responsibility if I throw bottles of vodka at anyone'e head!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Ok so you two create a diversion and I steal the picture of Anastasia Myskina

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, v good idea, we have to take Anastasia with us wherever Poptimism goes next.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

throw it at the bouncer's head kate!! knock him out! and then we loot the place

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

why would you have bottles of vodka anyway if there are only PINK WINE?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm sad I'll be missing the last one. But I'm happy that I'll be missing it because I'll be in New York!

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

IT ISN'T THE LAST POPTIMISM. Have some faith dudes.

But it's the last Poptimism at the Poley Bear.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

That's all I meant, yeah. I'll be back for the NOVEMEBER NEW VENUE EXTRAVAGANZA!

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I want to come to the October one if it means getting caught up in the middle of K&K's bottle-throwing/poo-implanting mentalism!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Wait a minute... if we're getting kicked out anyway, then I can BRING MY NEIGHBOUR'S DOG!!! HURRAH!!!

http://www.antique-dog-pictures.co.uk/images/sight/irish-wolfhound.jpg

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh well, I guess I'll have to give this one a miss. Have fun, chaps!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

NO DOGS.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

NO PLAYING "WHO LET THE DOGS OUT" EITHER

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

YES DOGGING.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

unfortunately this coincides w/ the Instal Fest :-(

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Get Keenan along to Poptimism!

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Keenan?

http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/wynn_k.jpg

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

the polar bear is a horrible place anyway

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

except for that secret tunnel

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

OK NEWS UPDATE!

The Poley Bear is having a refit and because they don't know how long it will take they thought they'd cancel all their DJs. But they have "every intention" of re-booking us. So (fingers crossed) POPTIMISM LIVES.

But Friday night may be your last chance to taste the ~~illegally cheap Blossom Hill~~ magic for a few months. AND Robster is DJing. And so is Kat, if you know Kat. So it will be awesome.

I have so many remarkable finds to play at you!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

I have so many of Tom's CD's to play at you too.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

i have nothing new to play you, except "dream kitchen" by frazier chorus.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

ANd we won't even let him play that!

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

I also have some CDs, to play. Unless I can't be bothered, in which case I'll just put on the second War of the Worlds CD.

― robster (robster), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

NB Kat is DJing whether you know her or not.

Oolaa.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

what's the matter with dream kitchen?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

The CD doesn't work on the decks at Poptimism.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

do you hate fun?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I have some requests and suggestions for interesting pop records to be played on Friday.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 10 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Feel free to email!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

No, I hate the Frazier Chorus which has never been the same as hating fun.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 10 October 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

i'm looking forward to this, and although i don't think i've ever heard him DJ before, i suspect robster will play lots of good pop for us to dance to. yay.

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 10 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I would like to come and listen to the Frazier Chorus, a band I had TOTALLY FORGOTTEN EXISTED until I read this thread just now. Yet, "Dream Kitchen" has popped, fully formed, back into my head. Unfortunately, I live miles away, have a job to go to, and am poor. Ho hum.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Sod Frazier Chorus, play Fortran 5!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

The theme of the free CD will be....

...cover versions!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh, good. Will that include a certain high-speed Bowie cover version? ;-)

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

That's if the free CD exists, which is kind of up in the air given that my burner isn't working properly.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

I can't make this. I've double booked again and people are coming to my house for dinner, so I can't reshuffle really.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

I am totally looking forward to this, but wondering how I can avoid getting really whammed. Obv. self-control would be one possibility. Just an unlikely one, going by past experience.

― alext (alext), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Come after, (unless that the double booking). Remember its the last poptimism ever!)

Alex, drink the pink wine. It isn't very strong.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

or dilute the red wine with lemonade to achieve even weaker pink cava.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

tom, my burner is working and i'm not working on friday afternoon and wd be more'n happy to help - how many do you do, is it 30? email me on this addy but with _ instead of . if that's any use.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Thanks emsk I *think* that we've got it covered now but I may be in touch tomorrow or Thurs if not - we can reimburse any expenses.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

OK we have a master CD for the covers CD which will be handed over to Tim tonight. Joan Jett! Two ABBA songs! Procul Harum! Jamelia!! AND MORE! Getting to Poptimism early has never been so good for your ears.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

& also there is a genuine EXCLUSIVE UNRELEASED TRACK on it!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Not, I presume, recorded by an ILxor.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

That depends.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Hi kids.

― James Blunt (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

You are not James Blount.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

my new favourite album

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000ARG25K.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Disc: 1
1. James Blunt - You're Beautiful
2. David Gray - Sail Away
3. Maroon 5 - She Will Be Loved
4. Madeleine Peyroux - Always A Use
5. Stephen Fretwell - Emily
6. Joseph Arthur - A Smile That Explodes
7. Joan Armatrading - Love And Affection
8. Paul Weller - Wild Wood
9. John Legend - Ordinary People
10. Sixpence None The Richer - Kiss Me Acoustic Version
11. Extreme - More Than Words
12. Eva Cassidy - Over The Rainbow
13. Wilco - Someone Else's Song
14. Everything But The Girl - I Don't Want To Talk About It
15. Morcheeba - Otherwise
16. Edwina Hayes - I Want Your Love
17. Beth Nielsen Chapman - Sand And Water
18. Bob Dylan - Love Minus Zero
19. Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah
Disc: 2
1. Daniel Powter - Bad Day
2. Damien Rice - Cannonball
3. Dido - Thank You
4. Jack Johnson - Good People
5. Natalie Imbruglia - Wishing I Was Here
6. R.E.M. - Nightswimming
7. Madeleine Peyroux - Hey Sweet Man
8. Gordon Haskell - How Wonderful You Are
9. Aqualung - Strange & Beautiful
10. Muse - Unintended
11. Magnet - Lay Lady Lay
12. The Connells - 74-75
13. Keisha White - The Weakness In Me
14. Labi Siffre - Something Inside So Strong
15. Harry Chapin - Cats In The Cradle
16. Tim Buckley - Song To A Siren
17. Jackson Browne - Sky Blue And Black
18. Jewel - You Were Meant For Me
19. Lou Reed - Perfect Day Live

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

apart from the connells song

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

"Hallelujah" by Jeff Buckley on a compilation entitled Acoustic Love.

I take it as read that compilers of such compilations don't actually listen to the songs or take any not(ic)e of their lyrics before they decide to include them?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

haha, Muse must be turning in their dampened beds. (xpost)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

hahah Perfect Day Live couldn't get permission for the original lol

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Can I just reassure newcomers that at least a third of those songs would never be played at this club.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

which rather spookily leaves two-thirds of the songs which COULD be played at this club. perhaps at one of those proposed sunday afternoon chillout sessions?

this will be a radio 2 competition prize at some stage this week.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

for newcomers: yes, i was being sarcastic.

maybe it's a public service that all these dreadful songs have been sucked into one giant poo of a record.

yes i'd imagine maybe only 3 of these songs getting anywhere near poptimism.

the new rockism is here

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

muse!!! bwahahaha! i'd sue my label if i were them.

tom, is that gmail addy real?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Um yes it is Charlie! It's the same one as on the front page of FT so I hope it's real!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

Can I just reassure newcomers that at least a third of those songs would never be played at this club.

Note to readers: He means he would fade each one out after the first minute.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

first two minutes rather (stupid quipotron)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

(I actually can't imagine playing ANY of them. That is quite a find Alan!)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

posters all over the tube right now :-(

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

you have email, tom...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh I don't know Al (multiple xpost obv), there are nine songs on there I wouldn't kick out of bed. But none of them is exactly Poptimism-friendly. Thus, in the service of entirely arbitrary demographics, I bring you 38 songs which would stand a better chance of being played at Poptimism than any of the tracks on Acoustic Love:

1. Morecambe & Wise - Bring Me Sunshine
2. Andy Williams - Happy Heart
3. MC Mikey G and DJ Sven - Holiday Rap
4. Black Lace - I Speaka Da Lingo
5. Smokie ft Roy "Chubby" Brown - Alice (Who The Fuck Is Alice?)
6. Murray Head - One Night In Bangkok
7. George Kranz - Din Daa Daa
8. Patrick Hernandez - Bjorn To Be Alive
9. Rod Stewart & the 1978 Scotland World Cup Squad - Ole Ola
10. Bay City Rollers - Saturday Night
11. One Hundred Ton and a Feather - It Only Takes A Minute
12. Arnee & the Terminaters - I'll Be Back
13. Jimmy Nail - Ain't No Doubt
14. Frank Ifield - Lovesick Blues
15. Tina Tott - Burning In The Background Of My Mind
16. Mary Hopkin - Those Were The Days
17. Richard Thompson - Feel So Good
18. Pere Ubu - Non-Alignment Pact
19. Shakin' Stevens - A Little Boogie Woogie In The Back Of My Mind
20. Ricky Wilde - Teenwave
21. Spike Milligan - Sewers Of The Strand
22. Billy Cotton Band Show - Somebody Stole My Gal
23. Earl Bostic - Flamingo
24. Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy
25. Johnny Otis Show ft Marie Adams - Mama He's Making Eyes At Me
26. Ronnie Corbett - Fanny
27. Bruce Forsyth - I'm Backing Britain
28. Nottingham Forest 1978 FA Cup Final Squad ft Paper Lace - We've Got The Whole World In Our Hands
29. Status Quo - Burning Bridges (On And Off And On Again)
30. Chas & Dave - The Sideboard Song
31. Roland Rat Superstar ft Kevin the Gerbil - Love Me Tender
32. Crass - Nagasaki Nightmare
33. Clodagh Rodgers - Come Back And Shake Me
34. Television - Little Johnny Jewel
35. Alma Cogan - What'cha Know Jockomo?
36. Des O'Connor - Dick-A-Dum-Dum (King's Road)
37. Napalm Death - Evolved As One
38. Morton Feldman ft Joan LaBarbera - Snow Falls

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I could envision a situation where I would play (and I stress, not htis Friday)
Love & Affection by Joan Armsdealer
More Than Words by Extreme
Something Inside So Strong by Labi
and even
Cats In The Cradle.

I would play everything on the other one and have played at least three.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh I didn't notice More Than Words by Extreme. Somewhere in the big wide world must exist a Euroboshing version of it though.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure I've heard 'Holiday Rap' at Poptm/Club FT before at least.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

yes, the list was a mixture of the faintly possible and totally improbable.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

ok, the Connells and Extreme and Harry Chapin. THAT IS ALL

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I have played a different Napalm Death number before, but i'm not sure the punters could tell the difference.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

"Evolved As One" is one of their epics; about two-and-a-half minutes long. First track on From Enslavement To Obliteration.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the one I played was only 40 seconds, so clearly people would tell the difference.

I quite fancy playing One Night in Bangkok on Friday.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Seeing as the creme de la creme of the chess world will be there (uh, ken c)...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

But who here looks the most like Yul Brynner?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Martin.

Um.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Mark!

There's no call for playing Smokie & Roy 'Chubby' Brown, under any circumstances.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Ah but why single that out over the 30 or so other equally reprehensible records in that list.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

All 38 songs are ace and I hereby sentence you to six months in Dissensus. Enjoy the worship!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm strangely intrigued by the Ronnie Corbett one now I must admit.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Because it's the only Comedy record on there, that I know of. Apart possibly from the Corbett, and the Forsyth.

Would Poptimism play DJ Otzi?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't Andrew because I think it's shit. Can't speak for Pete or Steve.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

I would as an experiment.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

i very much doubt i would. i am, of course, a fickle disco tart though, and easily swayed by a fluttering pair of eyelashes...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I would pay a pound for it to NOT be played.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

in that case i shall play it 10,000 times :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

that'd be just like the time i lived above those kerazy Kosovan dudes back in Summer 2001. Every afternoon at full volume it'd be HEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYY HEEEEY BAAAABEH...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

bumpity bump

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

Sorry guys, and I feel like the most pathetic cunt on earth for saying this, but in view of recent events I am actually too depressed to go to this and I will not be making it.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

what if we played Paul Anka's "Rock Swings" all the way through?

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Now Alan, you're just being cruel there.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Thankfully my week (first week in new job) has gone well so I'm not feeling nearly as knackered as I did at the FAP last Friday (where I actually managed to doze off twice with my eyes open!) - so it'll be the usual thing of warming up on the touchline until about ten and then WATCH ME GO etc. Or perhaps a stately foxtrot.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure whether I'll be making this or not, as will be Sealing. Plus I overslept this morning and had to get a cab into work so could do with some financial self-punishment.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

i'm so, like, there.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Matt who else is going to do the Busted Jump???

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

or "th faith healers" jump as it has been renamed for tonight...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

The Busted Jump.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

It's all about SOD these days, I don't think they have a jump though.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Spear Of Destiny? "Thay'll never tek me alAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIVVVVVEEEE-UH!"

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Son of Dork - whathisface from Busted's Blink 182 tribute band.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Did think about bringing dinner guests, but split up with boyfriend yesterday so would rather stay at home and drink cava.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

:-( sorry to hear that, the anna.

er, if i sahow up at midnight, will i get in?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Charlie, barring unprecedented crowds, yes.

Commiserations (if appropriate), Anna.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

aw c'mon anna, wouldn't you like to drown your sorrows in the company of friends? it's gotta be better than "spoons" on channel 4 innit?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Strawberry Switchblade, Shaggy, The Reynolds Girls, Robyn, Girls Aloud, Bo Johnson, Rod Stewart, Jimmy Castor, Yazoo, Rachel Stevens, DJ Space C, tATu, Telex, Maxx, Mark Owen, The Rasmus, Madonna, Adam Ant, Dr Alban, Tori Alamaze, The Human League, Kate Bush, Fettes Brot, New Order, Ladytron, Red Box, Midi Maxi & Efti, Nick Straker, Westworld, The Grid, Def Leppard, Toyah, Dire Straits.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

please please please do play 'Since Yesterday', preferably quite late on.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Steve we're an indie club, we have to, it's the law!

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

SoPFC, th' Faith Healers, Half Man Half Biscuit, Girls Aloud (indiest of them all), Frazier Chorus, Sub Sub, Taffy, Together, Rex the Dog, Go! Team

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I've ever heard you play it! (xpost)

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

can we have some david grey too? my music taste goes from mark knopfler to david grey.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Yes, we haven't ever, but we got a letter from the police and we have to from now on or it's a £1000 fine.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

The system works...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

why would sting want to hear 'Since Yesterday'? is it to remind him of the 48 hour tantric session?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

FETTES BROT?

for heaven's sake, which song? "nordisch by nature" please!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

kate bush at 8:15 then.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

will anyone play chamillionaire this time?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

i hadnt really intended to come this time, but i might be, after all

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

ACPERIENCE!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

oh well then, if that's the game you're playing, RED 2!!!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

changes of life/step to enchantment/ax-009a, whut?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I've brought the Saint Etienne this time.

Red 2, less likely.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

have fun, london ilxors! I hope someone plays andrew wk or big & rich or u.s.e.!

― etc, Friday, 14 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

so good! so drunk!

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 15 October 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

So tired. So so tired. It was a lot of fun.

― RickyT (RickyT), Saturday, 15 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

didnt get on till 80th minute

salvaged ball in own half

somehow, unxpectedly, managed to dribble right through entiredefence into penalty box

fell over

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

likely to wake up in morning to tabloid shot of self, prone on turf, tackle exposed, darren fletcher nearby, pointing and laughing

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

meanwhile, in meaningless midtable clash, i hear mdc bagged a brace

well, so did shefki kuqi

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

Excellent, thanks! Nice with the Strawberry Switchblade.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 15 October 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

yay, "since yesterday" was on when i arrived! splendid evening. thanks, all. way to rhumble...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

i am a wreck. thanks to the djs who were great. top indie from Rob, top 90s dance from Kat, and top all in between. Mind Ladytron was only played once.

i vaguely recall someone perhaps offering to help with ILX code or something but it was too loud and i couldn't hear what was being said at all :-( sorry if it seemed like rudeness - and sorry i've entirely forgotten who it was.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Thanks so much everyone who came and I hope you enjoyed it, it seemed to be a big success, on the other hand our future is now in limbo a bit as it looks like everyone we know at the PB is leaving during the refit. So fingers crossed for future Poptimisms.

Meanwhile huge thanks to Rob and Kat for their guest sets, to all our regulars and occasionals, to Katie and Alang for making amazing new pop/indie signs, and to some other people too. We'll be back, in some form or another!

― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 15 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

man i've just remembered the double time "Emerge".

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

pics?

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Marianna let me know I missed the fun last night, but well played anyway.

― BARMS, Saturday, 15 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Could It Be Magic!

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

And the speeded up Emerge was the most fantastic thing in the world, ever.

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

ah, was it just speeded up? Lixi and I (at the wrong end of the club to ask) thought it was a mix we didn't know. We were talking to the Pinefox at the time about this strange modern music.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

pinefox was telling me he saw robbie keane outside, in a minibus

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

cos Emerge got hem hem restarted I think pete may have been trying to help by getting back to where it got cut off by speeding it up on the decks with the speed control.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

haha accidental genius

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 16 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

The double-speed gabba Emerge with a load of goths all going mental will go down as one of my happiest Poptimism memories. Amazing. And you haven't lived until you have seen Tom dancing to Boom-Shack-A-Lack. Damn Kat for playing the Poptimism set I've always wanted to play, Sub Sub and everything. Even if she didn't have Reel 2 Reel featuring The Mad Stuntman.

The Pinefox showed his interpretation of Ledley King in the midfield holding role for England, through the medium of dance. Complete with commentary. It was quite a sight.

Best Poptimism ever. Best night in ages. "Meaningless mid-table clash" my arse.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Shame I had to leave early. But on the other hand, not at all.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

It was good to finally make one of these. I had fun. Sorry to have flaked out around midnight. What Matt said about Kat's set and what everybody said about "Emerge".

― Jeff W (zebedee), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

i vaguely recall someone perhaps offering to help with ILX code or something but it was too loud and i couldn't hear what was being said at all

Ha ha that was me, couldn't hear a thing either. Conversation in a club, what was I thinking? I shall post a q on the moderator board...

― ledge (ledge), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I didn't really understand the mid 90s dance. However, Rob's INDIEPOP set was the greatest thing ever. Sorry I bailed so early and was in such a rub mood but I'm glad I came down even if it was just for a short while.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow, that was a whole HEAP O'FUN. Thanks go to the lords of Poptimism for letting me behind the decks, Pete for his impromptu remixing of Emerge and to everyone for DANCING and having a good time which made me ridiculously happy. I was buzzing afterwards and Kat's set was just the ticket. I would've stayed to the end of the night but I needed food and Lois needed to get her narcoleptic bloke to bed.

Friday was a sad and almost unbearably poignant day for obvious reasons, so it was a huge boost to be able to do something completely positive and for it to come off so well.

― robster (robster), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Thanks a bunch Rob, your set was great and set up the night really well - and as you say - playing Emerge at +24 was a deck sunchronicity at its best (you for playing it, Kat for stopping it, and then speeding it).

Wonderful night, and we will see you soon, somewhere...

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2005_10_01_nylpm_archive.html#112954358213438527

Tracklisting of the CD, if you got one.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

I've heard the country version of This Corrosion before, but had forgotten how good it is.

This, however:

SINEAD O'CONNOR - "Chiquitita": Scarily intense version gets to the secret emo heart of ABBA's song.

I was actually going to ask who that was, because my hatred of Abba is well documented, but this angsty atmospheric slightly shoegazer version had me almost in tears it was so amazing.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah it's great! I wish she'd do more covers tbh, I prefer them to her normal stuff, her "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" is amazing.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

found a recording over the weekend of sinead singing, er, something with terry hall. ah, "All Kinds Of Everything". very odd.

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

To make it official, I do truly feel like a dick for missing this, staying at home and lethargically watching Larry Fishburne smack up Angela Bassett with the pimp hand.

― BARMS, Monday, 17 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

the cd looks the most amazing yet! but poptimism cds never work in my cd player.

gutted for missing this. i certainly didn't have a better time at my parents' house.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

what a great poptimism! fantastic music, i think my only complaint was that there was so much fun dancing music that i didn't want to sit down and take a break, so my legs hurt the next day.

and cis gave me a glowy bracelet! that made me very happy.

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

aces. dancing happened! the 90s dance bit sent me away eventually after rob's lovely indiepop set but was resurrected later on by GROOVE IS IN THE HEART (ar-ar-ar-art) yeah! need to do more dancing dammit.

and i didn't fall asleep or anything! (well i did on the bus on the way home and woke up in darkest homerton but i met the nicest bus driver in the world, i am going to report him for being so nice)

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

i fell in love at the last poptimism

(again)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/0001prtx/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/00018hqk/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/0000safd/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/0001a5yg/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/00017szk/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/pic/0000wa34/s640x480

More photos here: http://pics.livejournal.com/sbp/gallery/000058aa

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

thank fuck for that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Good grief, I've never seen myself looking so happy (or round).

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Ktee took a terrible picture of me on Friday so I'm still worried.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

sweaty

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I was glad T&G managed to make it but inevitably that meant we spent most of the evening blethering with not much dancefloor action, save my conceptual half-speed Prodigy/double-speed Shaggy routine.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

I love that happy Tom pic!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

me too!

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Also:

http://static.flickr.com/25/53815566_c87c25608d.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/27/53815565_0fde7b71ee.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/26/53815097_5d7a47350b.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/26/53815096_8309f3d655.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/24/53815093_b02cba82ce.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/31/53815095_db5cea2bd3.jpg?v=0

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Who is this guy?
http://static.flickr.com/26/53815097_5d7a47350b.jpg?v=0

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

ha, the flipside of an earlier one! (xpost)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Roxy, he is the world famous Pinefox.

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

He looks like Ian Curtis! And he is cuet.

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Roxy

loves

Pinefox

02010
2211
432
75%

Potential!

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what those numbers mean.

The club was too loud. It was especially too loud when the music was very bad, like when that woman Kat / Cat Stevens was DJing. For a long time, it was hard to talk, or to hear.

Rob's set was the best bit, by a long way. My favourite thing in his set, somehow, was 'The Death of Ferdinand de Saussure'. I guess I have never heard it at a disco; and I liked the way it took me a minute to work out what it was.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Wait -- you liked the indie set?

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

that picture of tom really makes me smile.

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, always good to see a pic of alext entranced by a woman fiddling with a big knob.

this, as always, looks great. we glasgow types should organise a bus or something ...

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

just organize a dance night instead

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't know how I managed to get into such an awkward position. I look like a diagram for some kind of stretching exercise.

― alext (alext), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. Some people go to clubs which play loud music and then complain about the music being too loud and are rude about the music played by specific DJs.

If you don't like it, Pinefox, then don't fucking go. Poptimism isn't the Garrick Club.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that is an excellent photo of the Pinefox.

Excellent photos of everyone, really.

There's a song about Saussure?! How could I not know about this? Unless of course it was that dreadful Belle and Sebastian song that sounds like Steely Dan. Though more likely to be the Stereolab song from the title - I never remember Stereolab song titles because they seldom have anything to do with the song.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

"Death of Ferdinand de Saussure" is Magnetic Fields innit? Off 69 Love Songs.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

kate we heard that! cos you asked me if i knew what it was and i said it sounded like stephin merrit.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Ah, so that's what it was. Interesting.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

The Stereolab song was Miss Modular off of Dots & Loops.

Ooh, good beergut shot.

― robster (robster), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Let the record show that the Pinefox danced to some hip-hop. I can't remember what hip-hop, though. Perhaps the person who I excitedly pointed him out to will recall.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

The Pinefox danced to ADDICTED TO BASS of all things.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Pinefox hasn't been that rude about a guest DJ since I played.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

PF and kat are actually buddies and it was secret code for love. but he was actually rude to you steve, i'm afraid

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand why he feels the need to be rude about what DJs play at Poptimism. I mean, I can take or leave an indiepop or 1992 dance revival set, but I respect Rob and Kat for putting their sets together and they were obviously popular with most people there.

Considering they're not even getting paid for doing it I think a basic level of respect is required for the DJs each month as well as the organisers. If people just want to sit and talk there is a perfectly decent pub upstairs where they can do just that. End of story.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

i am not sure whether to be distressed or relieved about that, ken.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

(Actually any DJs left standing at the end get a cut of the profits, it's not much tho, about enough for a taxi home. The rest we put towards making the free CDs etc.)

I don't agree anyway - people pay money to come to Poptimism, if they had a bad time they have the right to say so. There's always a few people who come along and don't enjoy it (usually because they don't like the music, unsurprisingly). I do think that PF should know by now what he's getting into.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

That's what I meant. PF knows the score, knows how it works - that's of a different order to people wandering in at 8:15 while the speakers are blasting out Kate Bush's "The Dreaming"...but yes, ILx/LJ regulars should give the chaps and chapesses behind the decks some respect 'cos they know what it's all about.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

It WAS noticeably louder than previous nights though. I thought maybe this was just because I turned up later than normal but don't know. This is hardly a complaint on my part though, esp. considering how crap the sound used to be at The Chapel.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

I found that the volume tended to vary - there were some tracks (e.g. Blah Blah Blah, Do The Strand) which sounded rather tinny, though that might have something to do with CD/MP3 sound differentials.

Also the dancefloor was noticeably more packed than on the previous two occasions, even at quarter to eleven or thereabouts.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

it's because it was so loud people had to let their feet do the talking

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

i was quite drunk so i have no idea whether it really was loud or not.. i just danced for quite a bit and bummed rob and then went home.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

ew ken do you have to?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

DJ's being "too loud" is my number one complaint about clubs. It's not a joke when you suffer from deafness. Sometimes this is the DJ's fault (heh heh, hello Charlie) in not being able to control their own volume - sometimes this is the club's fault for not setting up different monitor channels for different areas of the club (bars and seating areas should ideally be at a lower level than the dance floor, obviously) with individual monitor levels.

But then again, this is a complaint about every area of my life - see also guitarists who can't control their stage volume and insist the singers "turn up" when the PA can go no further.

It requires a decent soundman to set this sort of thing up in the first place. But a good DJ should also ensure that their volume level is consistent.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I only realised a bit later (when the Steely Dan Belle & Seb song came on) that the sound down the other end was louder than usual. Still it was talkable I thought.

I tend to think start quiet, then get a little bit louder at the end when everyone should be dancing. But the CD, MP3 differential is an issue, and usually when a fader goes up to adjust, it never goes back down again.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

This is the problem with DJing using cross-faders - that people do not think to adjust the volume on individual songs. Even between CDs (not to mention CD-Rs, minidiscs, iPods, etc.) there can be a noticable difference in playback volume.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm very tempted to use the trusty old "if it's too loud, you're too old" meme but will resist the temptation.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

There was a notoriously quiet MP3 of Crazy In Love that Tom used to have which generally meant two songs down the line at The Chapel something would come out remarkably loud. Though at the Chapelit was often so quiet that everything was up to max by about 10pm.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Kate is totally OTM on that one - not criticising anyone in particular here, but it's annoying when you're on the dancefloor and DJs aren't aware of the sound difference between songs, and suddenly everything drops in volume at the start of a new song.

Not something I've really experienced at Poptimism, mind. Not since the Chapel Bar anyway.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

According To Hari , Yngwie showed up at poptimism

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

It did get really actually uncomfortably loud later doors. In particular, Where's Me Jumper was way way too loud.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

oh dear, probably just as well we left when we did...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

i'm sorry.

i was feeling rather deaf on friday, so possibly turned everything up a bit. i do agree about the lack of variation between dancefloor and bar area though. that was a touch annoying...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

DJ's being "too loud" is my number one complaint about clubs. It's not a joke when you suffer from deafness.

lol

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

eh?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

I know you're "being funny", Ken, but have you ever heard of tinitus?

I mean, mostly the problem with my deafness is that I cannot filter out background noise. Which makes noisy situations like pubs and clubs a bit of a mare for me.

However, as deafness progresses, excessively loud noise can actually cause physical pain. Which means that I am starting to actively avoid any place that will trigger this.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you could then continue to actively avoid any place which you know for a fact will play loud music, instead of going there and complaining about it afterwards.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

If I go to a club night I do not expect to find pictures of Dido on the walls. So offensive!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

hand out earplugs on the door like they did at instal!

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

OK if Where's Me Jumper gets played way too loud at this club maybe I should actually go to it... of course that would mean actually going out. Perhaps not then. I've become such a hermit.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

tinnitus isn't deafness!!!!!!!

i thought you were "being funny" and i was acknowledging it!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

i know this music venue that is so loud that everyone actually wear earplugs.. it's kind of silly when you can just turn the sound down

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

The backlash starts here! Actually it started a few days ago.

My trick vis a vis the sound leveling is to swop between the track being cued and the track I am about to play in the headphones. If they sound the same level there, they ought to be the same level on the floor. To do this I might have to whizz on to where a song has kicked in (the WMJ problem was when the Guitars came in, whichisn't for about a minute. Actually that wasn't the only WMJ problem, it is in itself a problem but...)

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

POPTIMISM SILENT DISCO!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Good grief, I wish you people would let this thread die and stop reminding me how much fun I missed/you had without me. :(

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

BUT YOU'RE IN NUDE YORK PULLING CHIX!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

ooooh!

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 20 October 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

Special bonus YSI for those who made it to the end:

http://s62.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FA5FJA4M50003CX6XBZZXV4MH

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

ha, this still sounds amazing even when sober!

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I must know what that link is...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Let me know when you find out, OK? I have no sound on this machine.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

it is a cover version of "winds of change" by the scorpions in an [ahem] euro-bosh stylee.

i'd argue it's not quite as good as that sounds...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

it's not as good as the 'Life On Mars' one

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

anything with euro bosh on top would be alright.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

is there a poptimism in november? new venue?

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

not likely to be anything this month - i don't think anyone has heard back from the venue yet. on the other hand i understand there are efforts being made to get something happening before xmas at another venue.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't advise holding your breath though ;)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 7 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

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