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trailer is out there:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqKZ8ARPgC4&search=departed%20trailer

scorsese does love his rolling stones, don't he? it looks pretty awesome.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 30 July 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

I saw this preview at Miami Vice, and thought the same things pretty much in the same order.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 July 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God Nicholson looks perfectly scuzzy and sinister in this. I loved Infernal Affairs so a Scorsesefied version of it is pretty much my one reason to go out to a (non-arthouse) movie theater this year.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Sunday, 30 July 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if anyone caught it, but nicholson's right-hand man is ray winstone!

― gear (gear), Sunday, 30 July 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't realize this was coming out october 6th! awesome. between this and 'the black dahlia' it'll be a good fall.

― gear (gear), Monday, 31 July 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

scorsese! nicholson!

― gear (gear), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sposed to be nice n' gory n' profane, a possible return to form.

Except, of course, for Matt Damon?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

it won't be a return to form for matt damon?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

anyway it ain't damon i'm worried about in this movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

the trailer i saw at the theatre makes this movie look absolutely retarded

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

OTM, the trailer stinks. Also, is diCaprio saying "Cut me up and feed me to the poor" in that? What a strange line.

― Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

this should be good, if only because of the source material

― gear (gear), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

that is weird logic

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

rather, i have hope this will be good, if only because of the source material.

― gear (gear), Friday, 15 September 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

How can it be a return to form when the Aviator and Gangs Of New York were freakin incredible?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

this has gotta be better than 'the black dahlia'

― gear (gear), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

this looks pretty good. the "cut me and up feed me to the poor" line BETTER make sense in context!

there's a lot of punching in the trailer.

― ryan (ryan), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

LET'S GET DEPARTED (HA) LET'S GET DEPARTED IN HERE

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

it was good!

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

200000x better than any of his recent shitfests, that's for sure.

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Does the "cut me up and feed me to the poor" line make any sense?

― The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, and it's so throwaway you wouldn't pay it more than 2 seconds attention were it not in the trailer.

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

the "cut me and up feed me to the poor" line BETTER make sense in context!

i heard this as "pork", ie police!

"poor" makes no sense in the trailer.

― the classic sounds of the seventh of january 1998 (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

there's a whole slew of scenes from this on youtube, they all look pretty good. i always figure that "cut me up and feed me to the poor" line was just a weird way of the character saying he was nothing more than meat for the grinder or fodder or something?

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

DiCaprio and Damon are at least physically right for thick-necked youngish stupid Boston cops, yes?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's kinda like, "do that and you might as well grind me up and feed me to the poor..." so not a big deal.

walhberg is quite good! first non-naïf performance from him i've really liked.

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

dude's gotta cool it w/ "gimme shelter" tho.

― THIS IS THE SOUND OF RADIOHEAD BEING BEATEN AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOL (slu, Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

remember when he used it in 'kundun'?

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Undercover In The Night" was GREAT in Cape Fear, tho.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

And I will now leave the fillum joeks to funny doods.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hoberman complains Jack swallows the movie whole. So it's A Few Good Men with gore?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

no.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wolf with cops?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Saw the trailer for this recently. I'm not sure Mark Wahlberg deserves to be known as "Wahlberg". He's no "Nicholson".

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hoberman. Hee hee:

Scorsese has a long history of burdening films with unpleasant and even atrocious central performances, and Nicholson seems bent on twirling the mustache off Daniel Day-Lewis's heavy in Gangs of New York—a role that really belonged to producer Harvey Weinstein.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

how does it compare to infernal affairs, slocki? faithful?

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

quite!

it has a lot of teh same strengths and weaknesses i thought... although the centrepiece scene in IA (the "sting" when the two bros realize each others' existence) is nowhere near as strong. and it also has less of the "WE ARE THE SAME TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN DO U SEE DO U SEE" stuff that IA kept hitting you over the head with.

there are a couple of deviations from IA's plot but a lot of stuff plays out quite faithfully. and yeah, they beefed up the nicholson character (who was really much more understated in the original... well i guess that's obvious) and made him a lot more... demonstrative. but i dunno, it's fun to watch! why critics hate big performances so much i'll never know. i guess it's a really easy criticism to level at an actor or a movie...

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been able to bring myself to see a Scorsese movie post-"Bringing Out the Dead" but this might do it.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

definitely waaaaaaayyyyy better than anything he's done in the last 10 years.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ not-played-out-at-all-weinstein-as-villain dig

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

"hee hee"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

re Hoberman: "Scorsese has a long history of burdening films with ...atrocious central performances." Long? Aside from Henry Rollins Mitchum De Niro in Cape Fear, I can't think of one. While I didn't think D D Lewis' wackiness worked very often, at least he had an idea and ran with it, more than anyone else in Monty Python's Gangs of New York.

Why wd Scorsese be interested in doing a 'faithful' remake of any film? (Haven't seen Inf Affairs trilogy yet)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like Nicholas Cage (well not anymore) buthe wasn't exactly the worst thing about Bringing Out the Dead by any means, I wouldn't call it "atrocious", he just didn't have anything to work with. Script went nowhere.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not sure the film was intended to be plot-heavy or have any real resolution, it was a pretty bizarre flick. i like it a lot.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Hoberman had De Niro in King of Comedy and Griffin Dunne in After Hours in mind? I did.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Rupert Pupkin is De Niro's last great performance. (tho I didn't see Rocky & Bullwinkle)

Cage ... wasn't exactly the worst thing about Bringing Out the Dead

Far from it, esp w/ Patricia Arquette doing her usual sleepwalk.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

otm! has anyone seen faithless or whatever that deniro/pshoffman/SCHUMACHER thing was called? someone told me deniro actually tries in that but i'm a bit skeptical of that flick to say the least. pacino's phone-in's are alot more entertaining, plus every now and then he'll make a weird choice. i hated botd at the time but i have a hunch i'd like it more now, i do remember seeming really aimless though. i'm bizarrely weirdly stoked for this though, i like aviator but last scorsese i loved was kundun.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

agree that de niro's diminishing returns have been really depressing (and abt pacino too) - but cutting him off at Pupkin seems really harsh, I still have soft spots for Robbie in Cape Fear (which I admit I haven't seen in 15+ years, maybe it does suck) and Casino, where I thought he was genuinely funny in a weirdly endearing way. But the 80s did somethign bad to De Niro, no doubt about it. And don't get me started on all those horrible comedies he's turned to, Analyze This, Meet the Parents etc. *vomit*

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't really enjoyed de niro in anything since the 1-2 punch of 'heat' and 'casino' (ok 'ronin' was good i guess but i remember jean reno and stellan skarsgard in that more than anyone else).

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

what else has this Wm Monahan guy written? (too lazy to look)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

'kingdom of heaven', which is surprisingly good (marred only by the always-miscast-in-non-elven-roles orlando bloom)

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

i enjoy him in meet the parents (meet the fockers was unwatchable though it does lend credence to this nagging hunch that hoffman was the best of that bunch). supposedly someone asked pacino once why deniro was doing all this hackwork and he hinted at deniro maybe having money issues? i don't think the interviewer asked the obv 'ok, now why are YOU doing all this hackwork?'
it is sad i can think of more deniro performances i've enjoyed mocking - cape fear, COPLAND esp - than deniro performances i've actually enjoyed.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

deniro was great in meet the parents! easily the most enjoyable he's been in since ronin (his last "great" role)

oh yeah casino and heat too! naw no way king of comedy is his last great work.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

blount faithless (or whatever it's called) is the most amazingly bad movie ever.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

and ronin isn't really flashy for deniro but i think it is REALLY strong acting.

― i'll shut up about ronin already (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

'casino' was kind of a weird role, he was this totally passive-aggressive hero who loved numbers and pastels more than people

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

check the way he's always looking around, observant, always looking for a way out or a suspicious angle. (xp)

― ok now (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

actually i sort of wish more action stars would be like de niro in 'ronin', come to think of it

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

everybody wants to come to the party, nobody wants to clean up.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit, how could i forget 'jackie brown' too?

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

If I were to say the same thing in that Hoberman review re: central performances I would mean this:

Scorsese has always seemed to think that an actor in a central role can get away with anything as long as they seem to know what they're doing. Which gets him good results about 50% of the time and 50% of the time it renders his films at best laughable and at worst simply unwatchable. It depends on the viewers' particular preference which films fall into which half.

Howard Hughes anyone.

(I have not seen Departed yet)

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

he's AMAZING in jackie brown!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

o man i forgot it too - best performance since pupkin

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

i liked the aviator, i think it probably helped i didn't know much about hughes and so came out of it going 'holy shit - howard hughes was FUCKING AWESOME'

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

which movies besides the aviator are you talking about?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit yeah I totally forgot abt that one too, great little role

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

'the aviator' was fine, i dunno why people hate on it. it's not a masterpiece and there are some lame minor performances but it moves pretty quick and i really like the ending.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

though while i was watching it i kept thinking, 'ok leo, one step closer, maybe that next one will slough off all that 'titanic' shit once and for all'

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Ballhaus back as DP with Scorsese this time. (steering)

I couldn't relate to Casino as anything but a pale variation on Goodfellas; never need to see it again.

Didn't say BOB has been worthless since King, just not great (and the best I've seen him since then is Jackie Brown).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

'casino' and 'goodfellas' are completely different except in the most easy to note parts

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

angry pesci, check. scorsese + gangsters + early 70s stones, check. i can't rail on 'casino' while 'boogie nights' is out there stealing scenes from 'goodfellas' wholesale

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

i wish casino had been more like goodfellas (or more the over the top baroque goodfellas it is at times).

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

This was written by the same guy who wrote _Kingdom Of Heaven_? Gack. That was a dissapointment. Never has a film had so many speeches that said so little. Why make a film about a war of religion and shy away from the barest hint of controversy?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

chicken thigh

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

btw blount you are very pretty

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

which movies besides the aviator are you talking about?

Goodfellas, the Aviator & Cape Fear are all good examples, to my mind. Before that I don't recall anything particularly out-of-place. As much as the casting in LTOC should automatically put it in this category I suspect I may have been distracted from the story more by Peter Gabriel than I was by any of the acting. Fuzzy memories at best.

Anyway there's a lot of almost self-parody seeming stuff he lets his leads get away with. I'm really excited for Departed though, just making a point that he does encourage some intolerably OTT stuff from time to time.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Kingdom Of Heaven rules you lamer

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

otm

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

it's gonna be pretty funny ~~when~~ if clint eastwood beats him at the oscars again

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

mind you i think i'm the only ilxor that buys the 'clint is a great director' line

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sort of with you

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

nick stahl!!

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

'casino' and 'goodfellas' are completely different

This is true; no Sharon or Rickles in mine, please.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

i highly suspect i'm the only ilxor that thinks blood work was pretty great

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah... you might be.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

The Aviator was one of the dullest movies I've ever seen, and the cameos were so distracting and poor. I don't want to turn this into an Aviator thread all over again, but good lord that film was a mess.

― Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

The worst performance in any Scorsese film is Joe Pesci in Casino. That accent!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Pesci's a pretty terrible actor in general. His hairpiece in casino is funny though.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

i couldn't even figure out what the aviator was about

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

joe pesci was good in 'casino'! pesci as a chicagoan is alright, my dad met the dude he was based on at a friend's office and said it was a pretty fair approximation of his typical demeanor. (friend later found dead in his mercedes in some chicago alley, incidentally)

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

It was Tucker: The Man and His Dream with a better supporting cast.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost to jams)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

the aviator was about howard hughes

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

mind you i think i'm the only ilxor that buys the 'clint is a great director' line

I think Clint's better in second gear than Marty is in second gear. But that probably doesn't matter as FooF is probably not second gear.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

i liked the aviator, i think it probably helped i didn't know much about hughes and so came out of it going 'holy shit - howard hughes was FUCKING AWESOME'

-- j blount (jamesbloun...), Yesterday 3:43 PM. (papa la bas) (later)

this is kinda funny because one thing that bothered me about that movie was the completely unneccessary whitewashing of all the really loathsome shit HH did... i guess scorsese did it to make him more likeable or more of a conventional hero but man did it ever make him a less interesting character.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think I prefer James Ellroy's version of HH. (Also Monty Burns')

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

the aviator was pretty much the closest thing we've got to a green lantern movie

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

lol

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

HH belonged to a cadre of intergalactic police with magic powers?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

he thought he did!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

"these transfusions of clean Mormon blood have granted me magical flying powers!"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

he was an arrogant, increasingly psycho flyboy with a smartass girlfriend who defeated his foes thru sheer force of his WILLPOWER?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

melvin and howard = best HH movie

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

trudat

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 5 October 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

The already legendary Leo Takes Matt's Lunch Money scene...

http://images.thewavemag.com/images/articles/14001-15000/14185.jpg

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

This was pretty 'yeah, whatever.' Far too grandiose and epic for being as empty as it is. Leagues better than GONY (but what isn't), but just about as forgettable as the Aviator.

Hoberman would have been right on with his acting comments, had he been referring to Leo. Make a squinty, pained face, Leo! That's it, that's what I call acting!

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

pretty stoked about this. accents seem less hokey than in mystic river (damon's boston accent still garbage tho), blood work WAS awesome - he's trying to catch a killer, but first he has to take a nap!

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

i am actually surprised how apparently before 'infernal affairs' no other film had used this basic plot device.

― gear (gear), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

damon's boston accent still garbage tho

How authentic was his Good Will Hunting accent?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw the ad last night. Gimme Shelter = yawnnnzzz

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

c&d

― gear (gear), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

shakey mo = faggggzzz

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's only what, the fourth time he's used it in a movie...? Buy one new record Marty.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

he should have used godsmack

― gear (gear), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

totally

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Scorsese's best in years: a purploid Mystic River with gay-panic and femme-baiting overtones. Nicholson's Jackness serves the material well, until he literally chews the scenery. Scorsese exploits Damon's Bourne-ish immobility and DiCaprio's callonwness for all their worth, but for all that you don't give a damn about Leo's moral quandaries (although, to Scorsese's credit, he doesn't push this too hard; I suspect he knows the material is horseshit he's gotta mess with).

Baldwin and Wahlberg's pas de deux was the most entertaining bit.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 7 October 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

Let me add: the editing is superb.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 7 October 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

until he literally chews the scenery

Wait, does this actually happen? Because I'd like to see that.

― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Saturday, 7 October 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

The biggest problem is that no one in the film has a personality - cuet shrink aside, maybe - just a big broad accent and a favorite tic or two. So when shit goes down, who cares?

There's no emotional attachment, where in a smaller film (where we actually get to feel DiCaprio's torment, or at least recognize him as a human being, rather than having it explained to us in a half-dozen scenes) there would have been some kind of payoff.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 7 October 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jack's rat-face was pretty awesome, though.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 7 October 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

OMFG I LOVED THSI ps. fukk u if u disagree

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 7 October 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

most entertaining scorsese movie since goodfellas. also easily supplants Four Brothers as the best movie where mark wahlberg says "niggers". actually, probz the most accurate movie set in boston that i have seen, what with the excessive coke use and racial slurs. A++ would buy from again

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 7 October 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, does this actually happen? Because I'd like to see that.

Reread milo's answer.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 7 October 2006 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

it was surprisingly good, loose, and funny i thought. waaay less going for epic than i expected. none of the acting was all that memorable though, either in a good way or in the "whoah this is way too much of a performance" way that ppl. seemed to be talking about. the casting was very smart tho. i also don't think the actors were given much to work with in the way of character.

it also didn't hardly feel as violent as ppl seemed to be writing about in the reviews. i guess he used the dropkick murphys on the soundtrack a bit? that was really well done. also the initial chase scene between leo/matt had some very nice shots.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILER!!!

I couldn't stand all the killing in the end. When there's so much of it in a film like this it leaves you feeling absolutely nothing. I mean, people in the theatre were even laughing at the end.

I like Leo Di Caprio.

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

i thought this was very good. dont understand criticism about lack of emotional attachment; what does that mean?

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it. always thought dicaprio was annoying but not this time. nicholson was too much though!

― dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

i thought this was very good. dont understand criticism about lack of emotional attachment; what does that mean?
That you don't care when someone dies - it's not even entertaining, just kind of funny.

And the constant "yr, a rat!" "no, yr a rat-face sumbitch" etc. - loyalty, not selling out your people is supposed to be a big theme, I guess, but we're only told about it, not made to feel the importance sense of honor or integrity. (Likewise, DiCaprio's attachment to Sheen has unearned father/son overtones that don't make a lot of sense.)

It would have worked as a really stripped down cop movie, or as a much longer series, the movie is just very forgettable.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 7 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

"mind you i think i'm the only ilxor that buys the 'clint is a great director' line"

i buy it! clint rules. we just need more french ilxors.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

we need more SPACE COWBOYS!

― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

clint's next one:

"The story of the battle of Iwo Jima between the United States and Imperial Japan during World War II, as told from the perspective of the Japanese who fought it."

starring ken watanabe, motherfuckers!!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

(um, that one is coming out AFTER his other iwo jima movie. just to keep things straight)

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

(he filmed them both at the same time. cuz he's a genius, naturally. alright, no, i didn't like mystic river, so, big deal. and i never saw fightgirl movie. but he has done enough to earn my undying love.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

blood work\'s better than both the oscar fodders

― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

alec baldwin was awesome in this. how bout the scene at his desk where he sez something and then dunks his face in a bowl of water or whatever? i need that shit on youtube stat!

― Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Alec Baldwin is awesome in everything!

http://cache.defamer.com/hollywood/canteenboy.jpg

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think this movie was about cell phones?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

That you don't care when someone dies - it's not even entertaining, just kind of funny.

I see where your coming from. but on the other hand, one thing that really stuck about the movie was the emotional coldness, the extent to which the violence wasnt so hyper-stylized, that the deaths were so matter of fact, so meaningless.

makes me think scorsese is entering his nihilistic old man phase.

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 7 October 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

A great, almost-perfectly-directed film. Hooray for nihilism.

― M. V. (M.V.), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Internal Affairs's script was better (a little more ambiguous) and the actors were generally better.

The Departed was a directorial tour de force.

I guess I still am pretty much an auteurist (even though I haven't been a huge fan of Scorsese in the past).

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing that's 45 minutes too long is almost-perfectly-directed.

― milo z (mlp), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure how I feel about the three most memorable moments being music cues also featured in the trailer.

― milo z (mlp), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't really notice the music all that much, other than that (as mentioned upthread) some of the songs are in every Scorsese movie ever.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

He did use, thankfully, another Stones song besides "Gimme Shelter" ("Let It Loose")

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing that's 45 minutes too long is almost-perfectly-directed.

-- milo z (wooderso...), Today 1:59 AM. (mlp) (later)

http://www.answers.com/tautology&r=67

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 8 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

this was perfectly directed. it certainly didn't feel too long, and the additions to the 'infernal affairs' story didn't feel unnecessary. definitely the bleakest film in scorsese's career, while at the same time being perhaps the funniest. it won't win him any oscars, though, they'll probably give it to clint or something.

that damn 'blood diamond' trailer and leo's mysterious australian/irish/german/russian accent, though....ugh.

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

lace curtain motherfuckers

― Rebel.yell.For.Internet.cakes (nordicskilla), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

actually i sort of see this film as the fallout from the failed oscar whoredom of gony and the aviator. perhaps for the best.

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

'who am i? i'm the guy who's doing his job, you must be the other guy.'

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

that damn 'blood diamond' trailer and leo's mysterious australian/irish/german/russian accent, though....ugh.

Yeah that looks like the worst movie ever. 'The Good Sheperd' looks pretty enjoyable though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

"elsewhere it's bling bling, out 'ere it's bling-bang"

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Want a cigarette? No you don't smoke are you some kind of health nut? Gofuckyourself."

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha that was one of the best-delivered lines i've ever seen in a movie

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

At least Scorsese scored his biggest opening ever.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

bigger than kundun?

― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

"kundun" would have been much better if the dalai lama was a mole within mao's inner circle

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

What was the deal with opening the movie with scenes from the busing riots? That didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the movie except to say "Irish people from South Boston are violent racist fucks." I mean, the movie had a grand total of, what, zero black people in it after that scene? What was the point?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

...

― gear (gear), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

what?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Sunday, 8 October 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

anthony anderson

― gear (gear), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

fucking great movie, horrid accents aside

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

scorcese's best in a long time.

i had no expectations for this whatsoever, and i think that really helped with my enjoyment. i hadn't even watched the trailers closely.

i'm on an adrenaline/caffeine high still from this movie.

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

2 large diet cokes, wee!

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

(i mean wee literally, two trips to the baffroom)

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

I had three Dogfish ales, but was able to hold it.

I have no opinion about the accents, because I am from Texas.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

thinking about this today yeah the rat stuff didn't feel right, honorwise and etc. there wasn't enough betrayal or conflicted attachments. the only one that stung was the reveal about nicholson's character, which was a perfectly boston thing to boot.

the scene with leo and the psychiatrist (the initial one) was pretty great. the scene with nicholson trying to smoke out leo and leo furiously spinning was painfully unbelivable.

"how's your mother" was totally awesome.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

that blood diamond movie looks AWFUL

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

i only know boston accents well because my dad and his side of the family are from boston

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

The new film from the director of The Last Samurai might suck? Say it ain't so!

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

at least last samurai had ninjas

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking babies (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

the only one that stung was the reveal about nicholson's character, which was a perfectly boston thing to boot.

Which do you mean?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

I watched Infernal Affairs tonight, really liked it. Pro: it's a muuuuch tighter movie. Con: not funny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah ninjas are always a plus xpost

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

boston mob boss whitey bulger was a longtime fbi informant.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ray Bolger was too

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

goddamn i loved this movie. jesus. i hate cop movies but..man. re: music whoever did the awesome pretty guitar score hit a home run. at time sit was so fucking SUBTLE it just worked. who was it? it sounded like marc ribot or even david gilmore or something. haha i bet its ry cooder. i guess ill go imdb it. my friend at the music store i used to work at thought ry cooder was the most disgusting name.

but tonight i saw that shitty idi amin movie with all this in your face fela kuti and blues rock inappropriately loud and at the start of every scene for no reason. just really appreciated the sndtrk to the departed. ive never left a movie totally pumped and ready to knock someone in the skull. so what was your favo part!??!

ok howard shore did the music but i doubt he played the solo guitar throughout. anyone have any info?

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 October 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

haha my gf and i stepped out of the theater and we were both like 'is someone going to shoot us in the head now?'

― gear (gear), Monday, 9 October 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

CS: Can you also talk about the music? It plays as big a part in "The Departed" as it does in your earlier movies, and you even have a bit of Stones in there again.
Scorsese: I worked out with Howard Shore that in a way all the characters are sort of entwined in a web, almost as if they tried to get away from each other, they're tied together almost like in a dance of death in a way. Or like a tango. So we came up with this idea of a tango, a very dangerous and lethal tango, which ultimately does everyone in the story and the idea of different themes of fate and the sense of how the tango sounds, then I wanted to play on guitars. I love guitars. I think of great guitar scores, like the wonderful film by Irving Lerner called "Murder by Contract" with Vince Edwards. It has a great guitar score, and of course the famous zither score in "The Third Man." Howard and I had sort of worked it out, acoustic guitars and electric guitars different strings, whether it was pedal steel guitars, all sorts of different things. When the sound kicked into electric, it was very strong. We have a piece of music played on acoustic guitar and it was quite nice, and then Howard said "I have another version of it" and he sent it in and he played the same piece but on electric guitar. It's the same piece but the electric guitar gave it an edge a slight edge, so at that moment I said, "Use the electric." So that's how it all developed, but it started with this idea of the tango, something that they're all entwined with, and of course, the references to movies like "The Third Man" you can't avoid. Even the shot of him walking away from Leo at the funeral. All those sorts of references to betrayal that you can't avoid. I like them a lot. The [Rolling Stones] song "Let It Loose," we tried many different songs in the back of that bar where Jack interrogates Leo but I tried many different songs there but that's the one that had the right particular feel for that scene.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also re: Infernal Affairs, they have bagpipes at Chinese police funerals?! I wonder if this is where Scorsese got the idea for the setting?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

thanks jordan, that's wicked.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

re: bagpipes... holdover from brit rule in HK?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

bagpipes are chinese. the british isles were settled by chinese in 1024-27 AD, but it was erased from the history books. email me with nude photo if you want to find out more.

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

j/k about the bagpipe/chinese thing. but do send photo.

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

done!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

robble

― latebloomer: just raw dead fucking, babies! (latebloomer), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

BUT WHO IS PLAYING THE GUITARS

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like Howard Shore?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

From the quote, I mean. But who knows if Scorsese is differentiating between "HS played" and "HS wrote it and gave me the tapes".

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sharon Isbin?

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

bingo!

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Cool.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

i know you guys are talking about chinese bagpipes and stuff but i just wanted to interject a little THIS MOVIE SO GANGSTA OMG I LOVED IT TOO MUCH TOTALLY FREAKING OUT!!!

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah and that blood diamonds trailer i was all why they always make poor leo do accents and getting unpsyched for our feature presentation but then BAM. even tho there was some unevenness in the accents the general bostonness was spot on. there were a bunch of lines that had me cracking up that the nyc audience had no appreciation for. marky mark is officially inducted into my comedy hall of fame.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I want a spin-off about him and Alec Baldwin's character.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Baldwin rules.

THE PATRIOT ACT! I LOVE IT!

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://thedeparted.hf4l.com/

best ever

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot "Marriage is important... lets people know you're not a homo."

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

I just listened to 'fitness freak' like 15 times.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

you know how when you're just starting to see a girl and you think you're really into her but you're not really sure if what you're feeling is 'real'? my solution for this is to beat off while thinking of her at least two times, and if i still like her afterwards then it is for real. i'm like this with movies too, i am always like OHHHHH SPLURFFFPLLT right when I see something I enjoy and a week later realize i'm not that into it. but i think The Departed is totally for real.

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it pretty well, but I can't decide if it's a good or bad sign that I now really want to see Infernal Affairs again.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

maybe it's not a sign at all?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the only other possibility I see is that it's unrelated, which I don't think is the case.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

way late to the party here, but DeNiro was pretty good in The Score, surprisingly convicing as a low-key jazz aficionado. Plus its rare that someone sharing screen with late-era Brando doesn't try to join in on the nonsensicality.

Infernal Affairs + SUPERSTARS + Boston accents! Really didn't sound like crucial but I hear Mark Wahlberg (who's done more good roles in the last ten years than anyone else) has some A+ banter with Alec Baldwin and the chance to see Anthony Anderson in a Scorcese film is too sweet to pass up.

― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't expect much from Anthony Anderson's presence here, sadly. But you can get excited about the other stuff.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed The Departed for the most part but I think it falls apart in the final act, after Nicholson's exit. (I've not seen IA.) I get it's supposed to be bleak, nihilistic, etc but there are a lot of ways it could have been true to that without everybody getting shot in the head.

On the plus side: fantastic, funny dialogue. Well directed and edited. DiCaprio and Damon both good.

Surprised nobody on this thread has mentioned Phil Joanou's State of Grace yet (undercover cop infiltrates Irish mob to which he has family connections). The setting there was NYC rather than Boston but The Departed reminded me of SOG at times. I was actually surprised to find that the love interest in The Departed wasn't being played by Robin Wright-Penn as I was sure she was about to put in an appearance at any moment! ;-)

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

"you wanna chop me up and feed me to the pooh-ah?"

― ▒█▄█ ▄▄▄ ▒█▄█ , Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was pretty much great -- but I never really understood why Costigan wasn't hired by the force to be a uniformed cop. This isn't a criticism: in movies like this, I spend the first 20 minutes just trying to get my bearings as to who works for whom and how, so I'm sort of just asking.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

his family and personal history, mostly. "you're no fucking cop"

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Why would his family/personal history be a problem? Do cops have to fit the bill of what cops are supposed to be like?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

(I thought maybe they were insinuating that he was trying to infiltrate the force the way that Sullivan did, although they obv didn't know about Sullivan at the time.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was more because his family and personal history made him the best choice to a) get in with the gangsters and b) have a believable backstory once he did.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

True. I was about to say well then why did Wahlberg harass him so much, but Wahlberg harassed everyone for no apparent reason. :D

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but I think they were trying to figure out if they could trust him too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Okay. Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised I was able to follow this after the first few minutes, because I usually have trouble with mafioso movies for that reason.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

After this movie Mark Wahlberg has comfortably joined the ranks of actors I most look forward to watchiing.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

wahlberg harassed peeps because he was being bad cop to martin sheen's good cops!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

the technique is called "good cop / bad cop." it's apparently used by a lot of police agencies.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

It was so sad when he was a bad cop without a good cop. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have heard of this routine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

It was also sad when Good Cop was thrown out on his ass / face.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

When did jaymc turn into the Pinefox?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc is the ultimate good cop.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

it kind of makes more sense in the original when there's only one guy who knows his identity. kinda begged the question as to why leo didn't go straight to wahlberg at the end. cuz he was on two weeks' leave?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc's the sort of cop who would bring you into his office and you'd sit down wondering who this guy is and he'd leaf through a folder and say things like, 'so i see you're a big fan of mid-period bob dylan?' and you'd be all like, 'how did you know that?' and he'd just smile.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD COP/BAD COP/JAYMC COP.

THE NEW PARADIGM.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

oh and leo didn't make the force because i think they referred to him getting reprimanded for hitting someone at the academy? maybe i'm wrong, though.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc is the kind of cop whom you'll meet a karaoke bar, dazzle you with an openthroated version of "Mr Brightside," and then leave abruptly before his shift starts.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

good cop/bi cop

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't they say something about the fact that he scored 1400 on his SATs, i.e. he was too smart to be a copy? That confused me.

She's happy, Jack. She's very happy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

"too smart to be a COP."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

it was never really touched on specifically in the film but i liked the fact that damon was this total ivy league red sox fan bro kinda dude and leo was this blue collar shitkicker.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

dudes the whole "you're not a cop" pitch was just a way of convincing him to go undercover and "fail" out of the academy (the hitting of someone being staged for that purpose).

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Leo gets uglier with each movie.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

it's called aging.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think all his facial features are growing closer together, ie soon his eyes nose and mouth will occupy a single square inch on his face, like a Dick Tracy villain.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

it was never really touched on specifically in the film but i liked the fact that damon was this total ivy league red sox fan bro kinda dude and leo was this blue collar shitkicker.

but it was, gear, quite explicity. Leo as an Ivy Leaguer would never have worked as a mole.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Leo looks more like this:

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/little_lulu.gif

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILER*********

so the old guy that got shot during the martin sheen building fall shootout was a cop too right?

**********

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

i guess i meant was the film never lingered on their class differences too much, but they were key to their motivations (which was one improvement on the original, where it never even played a part).

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah he was! i read one theory that he was just named as a cop because they wanted to take the heat off leo, but i dunno.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's what Costello suspects, too, and tells his men as such. But by that point, the only two people who know about Costigan are either dead or on a leave of absence.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

A-Rod = Leo D
Theo Epstein = Matt Damon
George Steinbrenner = Jack
Larry Luchino = Marky Mark
John Henry = Martin Sheen

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

" it was never really touched on specifically in the film but i liked the fact that damon was this total ivy league red sox fan bro kinda dude and leo was this blue collar shitkicker.

-- gear (speed.to.roa...) (webmail), October 11th, 2006 1:16 PM. (gear) (later) (link)"

haha yesss. though i think leo calling him a faggot (my favorite part, aside from the coked up cousin's line about pr's) officially means it was touched on.

― fergie-ferg meluvulongtime~~~ (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

yeah he was! i read one theory that he was just named as a cop because they wanted to take the heat off leo, but i dunno.

this theory totally ignores the conversation he had with leo on the couch right before dying

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

i couldn't figure out what the dude was saying in that, i thought maybe it was something like that in retrospect but at the time i thought he was just calling leo out on showing up at the right place despite it being the wrong address

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't think he was a cop

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

i thought he was like "i know who you are you bastard *urgh*" (dies)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the old dude was about to spill on Leo (Leo reaching for his gun, guy putting up a struggle) before he choked and died. Naming him a cop was (to my eyes) just an attempt to back the heat off DiCaprio.

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

also the other cops know there's an undercover in costello's outfit so they might have said he was a cop to cover for the mole, even if they don't know who the mole is is.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

OTM, although I think he wasn't going to spill (and was about to tell him why right before he died). It was a lot more clear in Infernal Affairs where ponytail dude got to ramble on more before he died in the car (but did he say he was a cop or not???).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

ponytail dude wasn't a cop, right? he just didn't tell the other gangsters about what he suspected.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, he might have just been a bro.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

pony tail dude was about to tell him why he didn't turn him in but then he died - purposely obtuse. (best i could come up w/seems like there must be more. imna watch internal affairs and try to get to the bottom of this.) maybe he was gonna say - out of respect for yr father or that snitching jack nicholson deserves whatever he gets or because i'm a cop too dude or i really loved titanic saw it like 20 times or something.

i've heard of this applicants being turned away or dissuaded from becoming police because they tested too smart thing. the thinking is that they'll just get bored or fed up with the bureaucracy and quit and go to law school or something. apparently a large percentage of too smart / overeducated police don't make it close to retirement and are therefor not worth training.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

although in the movie there were obv a bunch of really smart cops. i'm thinking they were just fucking w/him in that scene to see how he'd react.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

obv they were just trying to persuade him to do what they wanted him to do!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

yeah

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

but testing him at the same time

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

one awesome moment i almost forgot was when damon was brooding in his office in the dark all serious-like, and wahlberg just walks by and flips him off.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

good because there are lots more roffles than in the original

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

one thing i was wondering abt was did damon's girl send wahlburg whatever was in that envelop or did wahlburg just figure the whole thing on his own?

also i'm thinking leo didnt go to wahlbug when he found out about damon because he wanted to keep all the revenge for himself - hence pulling the unnecessarily dangerous citizens arrest maneuver.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Leo asked why Walberg wasn't there - I guess he asked Anderson to bring Marky Mark along, but they couldn't find him.

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

oh i don't remember that

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah he says "Where's Dingus? I told you to bring Dingus!" or whatever his name was.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

so what's w/leo handling the situation so strangely? i still say it's the vengeance.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Leo wanted to bring Damon to the scene of his greatest crime and then spring it on Marky Mark (who'd help Leo arrest the rat), and he gave cuet shrink the envelope for Marky Mark in case things went bad.

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

one awesome moment i almost forgot was when damon was brooding in his office in the dark all serious-like, and wahlberg just walks by and flips him off.

When "Entertainment Tonight" runs clips of Mark Wahlberg's career in about 40 years this will be among them.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like a recipe for marky mark killing damon - which he got to eventually.

xpost

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

scorsese's commentary: 'neither of them knew the camera was running'

― gear (gear), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

nu uh, srsly?

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

QFT

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

but why

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

**POSSIBLE SPOILERS???***

Just saw this and liked it for the first hour and a half or so then I kinda stopped caring. Overall, though, an $11 (NYC ticket price. Whew! Haven't been to the "movies" in a while) well spent. I thought the dialogue was mostly great, Nicholson a trip to watch, DiCaprio playing the same character he played in GONY, basically...umm... Damon in equal measures stiff and sleazy (the only one who stood up to Nicholson acting-wise, I think) and Wahlberg chewed the scenery waaay more than Nicholson did. PLUS, Ray Winstone!!Sorry, Chaki, but the freegin' guitar strumming/picking/jangling throughout was annoying. The music played throughout this thing and it got on my nerves.

Oh yeah: what's with all the backdrop CGI? The view outside Queenan's office looked like outtakes from the Jedi Council chambers in EP.I-III.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Friday, 13 October 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Have you noticed the tributes to classic films scenes?
like "Psycho" with the 3 shots shower scene of Damon,
or "The Third Man" at the end when Damon's fiance ignores him, in Decaprio funeral?
even "Resorvoir dogs" come to mind when the 2nd undercover cup dies near Leo at the pub or whtever after discovering he was a cup as well.
there are probably more of that.

― emekars (emekars), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

i said this on fake-ilx today:

It's been a long time since a film has really suppressed my critical tendencies while watching, I was totally taken along.* Everyone was at least good, Baldwin and Wahlberg walk away with everything (Wahlberg's disastrous cop haircut should win some kind of award for punk bravery). And it felt like the whole thing was attempting, and succeeding to keep up a constant level of speed and forward motion just a little bit faster than is conventionally comfortable.
*Despite only sort of stepping outside the flow to think "wonder how much Nicholson is being restrained by Scorsese here, does he want to let loose with full on Joker bullshit even more, or waht?" and in a few moments during the Chinatown chase scene thinking "oooh lookit the NOIR FILMMAKING" with the two young male leads dressed the same, with identical shadows chasing each other on harshly-lit walls, Leonardo viewing his opposite through the oooh fractured reflection of a mirrored-windchime yeah yeah we get it.

+ the crowd I was with was really vocal and into it. after the final Cavalcade of Whackings (audience gasping increasingly heavily after each one) there was a guy near the back who had reached the end of his rope: lone exasperated voice: "oh come ON man!!" *big laff all around*

finally, I'd like to dedicate this thread to the woman in my life, Vera Farmiga. you are yoga flame for all time.

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

the first two seem like definite homages, the last one is pretty close to a scene from the original. xpost

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

That was the lamest final shot of any movie I've seen in awhile.

I'm not saying Scorsese has to use oranges as metaphors or anything, but puh-leeze.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

The rest of it was great though the whole elevator shaft sequence did seem like one big deus ex machina.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

And there were other songs on Let It Bleed, ya know.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Other than that, it was a great movie.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

i loved the final shot!

― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

The only missing was a wheel of cheese rolling out of Damon's grocery bag.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the whole end was great, complete with the little dog inching away from Damon when he passed it in the hallway

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

BUT WHO IS PLAYING THE GUITARS

Actually, the guitar players are listed separately in the credits - there's like 5 of them. The only one I remember is G.E. Smith.

― The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

Schoonmaker interview on Greencine: "Marty walked several times on The Departed before it was shot because he insisted that the ending in the script had to stay."

http://www.greencine.com/article?action=view&articleID=340

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

how can you not love marky mark in his little booties killing the shit out of matt damon?

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I really need to learn not to click on threads BEFORE I SEE THE FUCKING MOVIE.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

but THANKS FOR THE SPOILER WARNING anyway

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

i think pleasant plains may have been referring to the rat on the rail. someone in our theatre even said 'oh! a rat! hahaha'

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

More than a week in, you're on your own spoiler-wise. "Don't ruin the ending of Casablanca for me!"

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah the rat, totally wtf.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Like how Tora Tora Tora ended with that shot of a tiger yawning and stretching, cracking its back and popping its knuckles.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

well goodfellas did end with that slowmo shot of the coca cola can tipping over and spilling its contents all over photos of the hill family, so...

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

morbs to be fair jhoshea meant something else than you think he meant

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

now that's a shot i'd pay to see in the end harhar

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, the guitar players are listed separately in the credits - there's like 5 of them. The only one I remember is G.E. Smith.

and Marc Ribot and Roy Buchanan (he played the version of "Sweet Dreams" during the credits), and I missed the others.

― The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

i have no memory of any intrusive guitar at all.

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

tho making the dropkick murphys sound like a good idea is some kind of achievement

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't remember the guitar at all, either!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it was Marc Ribot! Cool.

lol @ G.E. Smith

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Saw this yesterday and have nothing further to add to what other folks have said. It was GRATE.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I seriosuly LOVED this movie. my GF hates violence in movies and she still loved this movie.

what the fuck was going on with the Opera/ black lady/ cocaine scene????

Don't move till you're numb...

Is this just to illustrate Costello is nuts, as if we didn't get it by this point?

Also, I said it on FakeILX, but this is the best film Anthony Anderson has been in.

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

what the fuck was going on with the Opera/ black lady/ cocaine scene????

I wondered if that was the lead-up to the "brutal sex scene" that was reportedly filmed, per Jack's wishes, and then excised.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

didn't hear about that one... if the scene got cut, why keep the lead-up? definatly the biggest WTF of the whole 2.5 hours for me.

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

the numbness comment would make a lot of sense in that light, did seem oddly truncated.

― jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, that's right! I remember reading that interview with Jack about how he really pushed this fucked-up sex pervert aspect of the character, which must have all gotten cut. That's hilarious.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

that makes sense... but still, why keep the lead up to that scene?

I love how his girlfriend is reading the book on getting pregnant and makes some comment about "Am I making giving you that erection, or is it all that talk about getting up your asshole?" (or whatever she said) in the same scene.

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onion_imagearticle515.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

how many hookers do you think he killed?

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

IRL or in The Departed?

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

In the movie or in real life?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

(ha)

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

TS: playing a hooker who gets killed by Jack Nicholson in a movie VS. being a hooker who gets killed by Jack Nicholson in real life?

― researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, he seems like a dude who has buried a few corpses up in them hills

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well, weren't you the one who said the same thing about Kelsey Grammar?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

those 2 guys both have that look in their eye

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2500/kelseygrammeruf4.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Those ties are way overpriced.

― researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

i hear ill-fitting denim shirts are back in

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

i'm losing my edge

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

(I wasn't sure if I had established context there or not.)

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

i want that dude at my next birthday party

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was wondering how one could fit two Oscars up their ass.

http://www.lookalike.com/lookalikes/images/jack-nicholson2-sm.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

re: the final shot... i think the significance of the rat is also a little aside for the boston audience; the apartment in the shot there is on beacon hill, which is notorious in boston for its pest problems despite it's unbelievably high rent. at least that's the way i saw it... i'd be dissapointed to hear it's just simply the obvious play on words.

― sublime frequency (sublime frequency), Friday, 20 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.This accomplished impersonator not only looks like Kelsey Grammer, he has captured the performer's voice and mannerisms as well.

― researching ur life (grady), Friday, 20 October 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

NY Times' David Carr:

What a difference $150 million makes. Martin Scorsese, who hit the box office jackpot with “The Departed” — and who is being mentioned, but not campaigning for, a little hardware — signed a deal with Brad Grey and Paramount Pictures. Under its terms, Mr. Scorsese will have a four-year contract to find and develop projects for film, television and other media. Paramount will pay Mr. Scorsese’s company $2 million a year.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

this is the best film Anthony Anderson has been in.

Not true (Me, Myself & Irene), but since it's a big hit I'm sure he doesn't mind he was given fuck-all to do.

Milo fuckin' bingo on 45 minutes too long and emotional indifference to everyone, esp Leo.

I liked how the funniest lines besides "THE PATRIOT ACT! I LOVE IT!" is the "Guess who's a cop" bit, which they cut short cuz it's straight out of the original.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Unless Clint muscles his way in again, the Oscar is Scorsese's to lose (but now that he's in the running, he is "trying," isn't he?)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, but too bloody for Best Picture (can't see Eastwood winning again).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

um, Monahan to write a sequel? w/ Marky and De Niro?

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/01/31/the-departed-2-is-being-mulled-as-we-speak/

Are Infernal Affairs 2 & 3 worth seeing?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

More Marky Mark is never enough.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I floated over a show of his at Magic Mountain in 1992. Admittedly all I could see where his dancers.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

WERE his dancers, etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Were you on a magic carpet ride?

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

um, Monahan to write a sequel? w/ Marky and ~~De Niro?~~ Baldwin, yay!

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

guaranteed laff riot!!!!

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, what the hell does that statement mean?

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

It means Ned's on drugs.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

We were riding one of those skycar things they have amusement parks. We'd seen that Marky Mark was supposed to be playing that day and happened to be passing over the open-air venue in the middle of the park when the show was happening.

Were you on a magic carpet ride?

No, but friends of mine were on weak acid and among other things wondered why I didn't also see the Buddha in the trees, not to mention the dinosaur charging down the freeway later.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ned took a walk on the wild side (what the heck)!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Are Infernal Affairs 2 & 3 worth seeing?

I've heard Infernal Affairs 2 is as good as the original, 3 not very good.

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

infernal affairs 2 features the younger actors who played the central characters as young men (which was the dumbest thing about infernal affairs, because apparently the two dudes had major plastic surgery in the ten years). actually, that would be a perfectly valid explanation and might make some kind of absurd sense, but it wasn't the case. infernal affairs 3 is, i believe, the story of what happens to andy lau's character after the first film. i haven't seen it.

― roger goodell (gear), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Any Departed sequels will likely resemble the Alien sequels, in that they will highlight the survivor of the first movie's ensemble and turn him/her into a superhero.

― M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

and also feature a huge, hideous "queen" that produces all of the enemies.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

so jack nicholson will reprise his role, then

― roger goodell (gear), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

The archbishop of Boston?

― M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

also, all the schmucks who have ripped off Scorsese for 30 years can get in line to direct. They can probably do as impersonal a job as he did with this material.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

C'mon, Morbs: hacks don't hire Thelma Schoonmaker or show such flair for profanity (although they may allow Jack to wave a dildo).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Thelma and Marty are Corsican twins at this point.

Do you think Babel will beat her for "Most" Editing?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

That shd be in Jack's contract - MUST WAVE DILDO.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

They should get David Caruso for this.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

'maybe. maybe not. maybe fuck youuuuuuuu.'

― roger goodell (gear), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

the question then becomes

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

(puts on sunglasses, walks offscreen)

― roger goodell (gear), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

The Reparted

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Babel's editing was a great deal more subtle than The Departed.

Or a great deal more disinterested.

I dunno, I think United 93 might win that category.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

Is the plot as rich as the whole Infernal Affairs series?

― UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Monday, 5 February 2007 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Winnah, then.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

winner for his worst film. lol pwned

― fies, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

I must've missed it when he won for Boxcar Bertha, then.

― Eric H., Monday, 26 February 2007 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

Gangs of New York was a turd as well.

― milo z, Monday, 26 February 2007 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

Cape Fear was a bigger turd.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 February 2007 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've been dying to see this for ages, and now everyone's gonna think I'm just watching it because it won the oscar!

― G00blar, Monday, 26 February 2007 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

I was re-watching it Saturday afternoon; it's much better the second time.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how anyone could think this was worse than Gangs of New York -- what a ridiculous movie.

― Nicole, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

At least he won for a second-rate film -- higher than usual for AMPAS.

You'll never see em put Infernal Affairs in its DVD box, willya?

So what was the "socially significant" message of this Best Picture? Cops and gangsters are often similar, WHO KNEW?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

The "message" is that "We needed to give Scorsese an Oscar for his [1]Oliver![/i]."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

YAY DEPARTED CONGRATS MARTY KUDOS EVERYONE SRY MARKY U SHOULDVE WON UR A TOTAL COMIC GOD!!!!!!!!

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/yay.gif

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

especially sweet since the hated babel and lil mrs sunshine lost

(wtf with the border around my yay - it cant be constrained like that)

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Alfred, that doesn't explain why The Departed won Best PICTURE. Its core aesthetic is defined by that troglodyte producer who went on and on saying nothing, just like the movie only much less entertaining.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

the academy finally embraced nihilism morbs duh

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

It was also the highest grossing film of the nominees. This counts for something. Marty + box office + not Gangs of New York or The Aviator = Oscar.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Crash was nihilistic in a "monkeys randomly typing" way

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I loved how no one on the talk shows has commented that having Coppola-Lucas-Spielberg anounce the Best Director = RIGGED.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

ha!

xp

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Calling Lucas a director is fishy enough.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

he is most certainly a director IN A WORLD WITH McG AND THE NAPOLEON DYNAMITE GUY

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Andrew Tracy in Cinemascope

Whatever their individual virtues, flaws, or outright failings, the majority of Scorsese’s films have been about something, even if sometimes no more than their director’s ambition. The crucial defect of The Departed is that it is about nothing— ...[it] tells us nothing about cops, crooks, Boston, or the Irish; it’s a film adrift, with no point of orientation for any of its astonishingly talented collaborators to grasp onto.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

OH GOD MORBS LET IT GO WE GET IT EVERYONE LOVES THIS MOVIE BUT YOU AND YOUR REASONS WHY

― jhøshea, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I yam not Andrew Tracy!

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

ok morbs, you wouldn't happen to agree w/that snippet you posted there would you?

― jhøshea, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I agree w/ pretty much everything in that column, yes.

Except the swipe at Munich at the end.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

The films tells us that cops and crooks can work together amicably and treat each other with civility.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

(also I liked Jack unlike AT)

I wd much rather take a film class w/ Scorsese than see any more Leo vehicles.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I do not love this movie. I actually thought it was worse the second time around - assumed I'd appreciate the jokez more, but not so much.

― milo z, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

otoh, every time Sandra Bernhard strips and says "I wanna be black, I wanna put on some Shirelles" to Jerry Lewis while he's duct-taped to that chair in The King of Comedy, there are endless riches to mine.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

yes, herr doktor has exhibited a bottomless well of energy devoted to pooflinging at the departed, but I agree it's not scorsese at his best. more like scorsese on autopilot. time isn't going to be kind to it (and I don't mean time magazine).

― Edward III, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

pooflinging

I pronounced that as 'poof-linging'

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I agree that it's not really about anything except its own world. It's still scorching to watch, though.

― chap, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

why is this isn't scorsese's best considered a legit argument? a lot of great movies aren't as good as scorsese's best you fools.

― jhøshea, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I must not be easily scorched.

I pronounced that as 'poof-linging'

plz use in a sentence

― Edward III, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

my argument would be it's in the bottom quarter of his movies.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

why is this isn't scorsese's best considered a legit argument? a lot of great movies aren't as good as scorsese's best you fools.

if the argument is "the departed is overrated" I guess it's part of a legit argument. here are some random sandbox posts I made.

The Departed - enjoyable popcorn flick, but where's Scorsese's thumbprint? felt like it could've been directed by anybody, and at brief times by a clueless anybody (OH LOOK A RAT I SEE WHAT U DID DERE). what keeps things moving is the ruthless plot that's 90% lifted from the original Hong Kong film. it does a bangup job capturing Boston, though. if you live there chances are you know several people just like Wahlberg's character.

it struck me as very by-the-numbers. Yeah, it had the superficial Scorsese stuff, but not one moment of transcendence, which even in his bad movies there are usually at least 1-2 moments of. Even his music choices were sub-par autopilot stuff - c'mon Marty, "Gimme Shelter"? Really?

The original had me more wrapped up in the characters' fate, got me thinking about the questions of identity that the setup naturally begs - and you'd think this would be primo territory for Scorsese to explore, but he never slowed down to let those themes percolate. And the Damon-Farmiga-Dicaprio love triangle was total DOA dud.

It sounds like I didn't like it - I did, it zipped along, it was fun - but The Aviator was a ballsier movie. Christ, I'm starting to sound like Morbs.

Infernal Affairs had a palpable sense of loss and sorrow that carried it beyond its b-movie plot machinations. The Departed could've easily been in a diff league than expertly executed cat-and-mouse games, but all it has going for it is plot+motion+scenery chewing. Again, these aren't bad things, but finding soulfullness in criminality and exploring indentity crises are two of Scorsese's big themes, so I sense a missed opportunity here.

― Edward III, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

MARKY MARK FOR PRESIDETN

He took down that Sullivan dude HARDCORE. DAMMMNNN.

― marmotwolof, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Marky Mark pwned this movie

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

and I liked it fine but Morbz OTM about it being a totally empty excercise

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

was mean streets empty too?

― chaki, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember it being such a standard cops-n-robbers thriller at all, so no. I haven't seen it in at least 15 years but I remember it as being pretty character-centric/driven.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was a very full exercise!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

this was like woo by the numbers, with the most out-and-out mother sex figure in any of scorcese's movies, which is saying a lot

baldwin and wahlberg get some of the best dialogue i've ever heard, shit was killing me

"why don't you go fuck yourself"

"nah i'm tired from fuckin your mom all last night"

"how's YOUR mom by the w--"

"she's tired from fuckin my dad, thanks for askin"

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

ELLERBY
Outstanding. That's good. Marriage
is an important part of getting
ahead. You don't want anyone
thinking you're a homo. Married guy
seems stable. People look at a
wedding ring and think: someone can
stand the son of a bitch. Ladies
see the wedding ring and know
immediately that you must have some
cash and that your cock works.

COLIN
Oh, it's working. Overtime.

ELLERBY
I'm glad to hear that.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

baldwin and wahlberg get some of the best dialogue i've ever heard

O T M

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

Baldwin can be a stitch in this awesome movie.

"I'm gonna smoke, you want a smoke? You don't smoke, what are you some kind of health nut? go fuck yourself."

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

this movie redefined my professional goals

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

I now only care that at some point I can be the guy who gets to say he's the guy who does his fuckin' job, and that the the other guy is the other guy

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'd seen this a couple times already but the other day I caught it like ten minutes in when I was flipping channels about ready to see if there was maybe a good video on Pants Off Dance Off and then head up to bed and was surprised to find myself trapped into staying up until 3 AM. Marky Mark flipping Damon off is still a lolmaker

― A B C, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

So is THIS AIN'T REALITY TV actually

― A B C, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

Get him a... cranberry juice.

― Kerm, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 07:42 (eighteen years ago)

Lazio: Do you have anyone in with Costello presently?
Dignam: Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 07:57 (eighteen years ago)

-who said that?
-...HAWTHORNE.

― 31g, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 08:49 (eighteen years ago)

blow me, alright - not literally though - unfortunately there's no promotion involved for ya...

― Kerm, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 08:56 (eighteen years ago)

Would the hardest man in Boston really roll in a Roadmaster?

― Kerm, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

yes you're all correct William Monahan owned this film.

― Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

im the guy who does his job. you must be the other guy.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

fuuuck, that scene with leo and nicholson -- 'heavy lies the crown... sort of thing' -- tell me that's not epic.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

top 5 movie of the 2000s

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

This was one of the more tolerable movies with Matt Damon.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

one of the most quotable of all time.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

This was one of the more tolerable movies with Matt Damon.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why do u say this? damon is abt as consistent an actor as is out there right now

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

one of the lines my friends and i quote most from this is when the indian dude is getting bullied in the convenience store and the goons keep getting his name wrong and he yells "IT'S SINGH MOTHERFUCKER"

idk

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

Billy Costigan: Hey, you fellas come from Providence?
Providence Gangster #2: Isn't any of your business where we come from, is it, now?
Billy Costigan: Fuckin' delivering cannolis or something?

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

one of the most quotable of all time.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, March 15, 2009 6:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

you wanna smoke? you smoke? you don't smoke, what are you some kind of fitness freak fuck you

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

I find Matt Damon consistently boring.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 15 March 2009 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

i find you consistently poop

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:00 (seventeen years ago)

yeah damon is the man gtfo

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Lazio: Do you have anyone in with Costello presently?
Dignam: Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:02 (seventeen years ago)

I would worry if I didn't consistently poop.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:02 (seventeen years ago)

Lazio: Do you have anyone in with Costello presently?
Dignam: Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 2, 2008 1:57 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

really into this line apparently

― wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

This movie did make me appreciate Mark Wahlberg. He had a lot of the best lines.

― what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

he's great in this

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:08 (seventeen years ago)

Leo looks a little like a smaller, shiftier Steven Gerrard in this.

― Suedey 2, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

"world needs plenty of bartenders!"

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

NO TICKY NO LAUNDRY

― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:11 (seventeen years ago)

This movie is pretty good when DiCaprio is offscreen.

― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

This movie is pretty good when Wahlberg or Baldwin are onscreen. Screw the rest.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

this movie is pretty good.

― s1ocki, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

Yes. Better than Goodfellas, too.

― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Monday, 16 March 2009 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

you forgot one thing: Marky Mark

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 16 March 2009 01:04 (seventeen years ago)

rules

― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 01:08 (seventeen years ago)

last shot is awful in this otherwise killer movie.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 March 2009 01:51 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

the rat symbolizes obviousness

― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

im the guy who does his job. you must be the other guy.

^^^def a fave

― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

one of the best scenes is when leo beats the hell out of those two goons in the corner store

leo: "you guys come from providence?"
goon: "where does it matter where we come from?"
leo: "what're you fuckin delivering cannolis?" <--- loool

i caught this scene on fx yesterday randomly

― the rickey henderson of sbs (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)

Marky Mark gets all the best lines. also the funniest hair

― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

don't send a Leo to do a man's job

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:19 (seventeen years ago)

this movie's great but the therapist actress was terrrrible

― mark cl, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

terribly hot!

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

i do not recall a rape scene

― fucken cumlord (omar little), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

fav movie of the decade

best leo performance

― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 06:06 (seventeen years ago)

marriage is an important part of getting ahead. they know you're not a homo.

― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 06:08 (seventeen years ago)

getting pussy for the first time in the history of fire or pussy

― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 06:09 (seventeen years ago)

scene starting in the sex shop is awz

― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 April 2009 06:11 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I was pretty bleah on this when I saw it on release, so I waited a while for a second look. Sometimes I find that ambitious misses by big directors look better when shrunk down for TV. In this case, it got a little better, not a whole lot. I've been trying to figure out the past few years what happened to Scorsese--something more than he's getting old. The first big problem with The Departed is Nicholson; he's not playing himself for a change, which is good, but he's off in some other movie, which is not. The second problem, though, is the bigger overriding problem with all of Scorsese's post-Casino films: how completely humorless he's become. Mean Streets, Taxi Driver[/i], Raging Bull, The King of Comedy, and Goodfellas work on a lot of levels, but one thing they all are is wildly funny. Alec Baldwin gets off a couple of amusing lines in The Departed, but if there's a good joke in the film, I missed it.

― clemenza, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)

u missed it

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

i mean come on.. mark wahlberg's entire character

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

srsly

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

this movie is totally funny

its a pretty minor work for Scorsese tho, and I agree that Casino was the last time he was really great

― Master of the Manly Ballad (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

you're a pretty minor work!

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

you were really great!

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

king of comedy isn't funny at all why do people even like that movie god!

xp lol

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 22:41 (fifteen years ago)

you're a pretty minor work!

― horseshoe, Friday, July 30, 2010 6:40 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

<3 this movie

― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 30 July 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

the zings are the best part of this movie!

― my objective was to get the ham (another al3x), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

Alec Baldwin gets off a couple of amusing lines in The Departed, but if there's a good joke in the film, I missed it.

Dignam: This is unbelievable. Who put the fuckin' cameras in this place?
Police Camera Tech: Who the fuck are you?
Dignam: I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

Billy Costigan: [to the bartender] Cranberry juice.
Man Glassed in Bar: It's a natural diuretic. My girlfriend drinks it when she's got her period. What, do you got your period?
[Billy grabs an empty glass and smashes it onto the man's head. Mr. French grabs Billy throws him against the wall. Billy tries to go towards the man again and French holds him against the wall. Billy pushes French's hands away]
Billy Costigan: Get your fuckin' hands off me!
Mr. French: [calmly] Hey, hey, hey... do you know me?
Billy Costigan: No, no.
Mr. French: Well, I'm the guy that tells you there are guys you can hit and there's guys you can't. Now, that's not quite a guy you can't hit, but it's almost a guy you can't hit. So I'm gonna make a fuckin' ruling on this right now. You don't fuckin' hit him. You understand?
Billy Costigan: Yeah, excellent. Fine, fine, fine.
Mr. French: I fucking know you. I know your family. You make one more drug deal with that idiot fucking cop-magnet of a cousin of yours and I'll forget your grandmother was so nice to me. I'll cut your fucking nuts off. You understand that?
Billy Costigan: Yeah, yeah, I do.
Mr. French: What are you drinkin'?
Billy Costigan: [embarrassed] A cranberry juice.
Mr. French: What is it, your period?

― the penis cream pilot walked free (Phil D.), Friday, 30 July 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

there could honestly be a poll of lines in this movie where a character says 'go fuck yourself"

― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

[Brown is telling Billy why he signed up for the police]
Brown: So she tells me, "You never finish anything. You finish the police course, you get taken care of again, baby." So after graduation, I get a blowjob again.
Billy Costigan: That's great. Your mother sounds like a wonderful woman.
Brown: Fuck yourself.

Ellerby: I'm gonna go have a smoke right now. You want a smoke? You don't smoke, do ya, right? What are ya, one of those fitness freaks, huh? Go fuck yourself.

Lazio: Do you have anyone in with Costello presently?
Dignam: Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.

Ellerby: Go fuck yourself.
Dignam: I'm tired from fucking your wife.
Ellerby: How is your mother?
Dignam: Good, she's tired from fucking my father.

― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

obv the best line in this movie and american cinema in general is "maybe. maybe not. maybe fuck yourself."

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

lol xp

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

Dignam: Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself.

i challenge anyone to produce a better line in the history of cinema

― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

HORSESHOE OTM

― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 July 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

high fives

― horseshoe, Friday, 30 July 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

Hmmmm...I love Raging Bull, but you guys have reminded me of Kael's line on the film: "Jake says, 'You dumb fuck,' and Joey says, 'You dumb fuck,' and they repeat it and repeat it. And I think, 'What am I doing here watching these two dumb fucks?'" (Let me guess: I should go fuck myself!)

― clemenza, Saturday, 31 July 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

Dignam: I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy.

is this single line the reason that will ferrell spy comedy movie is being made

― dyao, Saturday, 31 July 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)

love this movie, nicholson & wahlberg thinking that they're in a wacky comedy makes it even better

― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 July 2010 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

That's partly why it's not very good: the performances are all pitched at different levels. They don't cohere.

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 July 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

you dont cohere

― ice cr?m, Saturday, 31 July 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Go fuck yourself

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 July 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

;)

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 July 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

im tired from fucking yr mother

― ice cr?m, Saturday, 31 July 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

I own this movie on DVD. $6.99 from the bin at Blockbuster. It's the only thing Blockbuster is good for anymore.

― kenan, Saturday, 31 July 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Go fuck yourself
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:24 PM (5 hours ago)

last part is "...maybe fuck yaself" which has a nice ring to it, all imho, mfyiud.

― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 1 August 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

I fit the phrase to the occasion, like I did to your mom.

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 August 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

your mom rated jack's performance as one of the best thing's she'd ever done

― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:58 (fifteen years ago)

also she said wahlberg struggled to find his place at first but soon got into the rhythm

― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 2 August 2010 03:59 (fifteen years ago)

ten months pass...

watched this again for the first time since the release

I sorta hate and love the ending at the same time

― iatee, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:59 (fifteen years ago)

dope movie, dope ending

― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:11 (fifteen years ago)

everything about this movie is the best

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

TT and JS OTM.

― $^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno the last scene is like total crowd-pleasing nonsense...but on the other hand it's also awesome

― iatee, Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

the whole movie's a crowd-pleaser; that's why people like it

― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:31 (fifteen years ago)

because it pleases them

― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:32 (fifteen years ago)

well I didn't see it w/ a crowd this time, maybe that was the problem

― iatee, Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:32 (fifteen years ago)

its not bad homies
first scorsese joint to please meh

― kl0pper, Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:13 PM (3 years ago)

― goog lebron paul (am0n), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:40 (fifteen years ago)

I guess it's just like, the rest of the plot has such amazing symmetry and builds for so long that on some level I'm disappointed that the death scenes basically come from nowhere? but at the same time the scenes are entertaining. (I mean, I like this movie.)

― iatee, Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:43 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Whitey Bulger arrested in Santa Monica!

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:27 (fourteen years ago)

Come remember "The Departed" exists with me

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

I'm tired from fucking your mother

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:15 (fourteen years ago)

If you had an idea of what we do, we would not be good at what we do, now would we?

We would be cunts. Are you calling us cunts?

― SBing crosby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

we all are. act accordingly.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:26 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTaVxTmB5k4

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

I honestly totally forgot about the comedy team of Baldwin and Wahlberg.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

They were the best part of this movie.

― I don't know who Cerebus is, and I'm 6'0 and 192 (Nicole), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

how could you forget about wahlberg you clearly have not been watching this movie weekly as you ought

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

i think I forgot this movie as I watched it, like a Boston crime thriller as devised by Phillip K. Dick.

I do recall my favorite scene being Wahlberg just walking by a window, flipping off whoever was inside the office (Damen?). Comedy gold. They were indeed the best part of this boilerplate Scorsese, but even at the time I kept wondering, what's with all the jokes? It's like Marty was encroaching on Coen Bros territory.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

I think that scorcese recognized that the basic plot device is so ott absurd and, just, fictional, that to give it the serious treatment would make the movie too campy

― dayo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

cops are funny in all kinds of ways

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

yeah not all cops are dirty harry. some are also jackie chan.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. Go fuck yourself.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe go fuck yourself.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

alfred consistently misquoting itt

― dayo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

whenever i see wahlberg now i always picture him wearing his little paper booties from the last scene

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

yeah not all cops are dirty harry. some are also jackie chan.― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:50 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I gots mad love for Police Story!

― SBing crosby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

also guys it's "maybe fuck yourself" god

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

this movie has a ton of great moments but as a whole it kinda feels like coke-era scorsese making it up as he goes along.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Infernal Affairs wasn't campy. Maybe Scorsese, recognizing he could not reign in Nicholson, decided to just go with the flow and goof it up. I mean, I remember all the buzz leading up to this related more or less exclusively to Jack-related improv anecdotes.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

ts wahlberg's cop in departed vs his cop in 'the other guys'

Is 'the other guys' named from a wahlberg quote in departed?

― the waitress and the frogbs (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

which is weird since it's a remake but maybe that also felt like coke-era scorsese making it up as he went along.

xpost

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

if you watch this movie ~300 times you stop caring that it's kind of a baggy monster

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

so no reaction to Whitey Bulger, eh, just this mediocre movie

also heard secondhand that Marty was angry that he won his Oscar for THIS of all things.

strongo, u know it's a remake, right? oh you do.

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

haha oh i agree

xpost

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

there's a thread about whitey bulger, dr. morbius!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

Little known fact about Wahlberg: he wears paper booties in all his films. It's his good luck charm. We just rarely see his feet. Scorsese was brilliant enough to find a way to fit them into this movie.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:56 (fourteen years ago)

the oscar was clearly the susan lucci pity party lifetime achievement award for marty

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:56 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3f9UJTmgd0

The rat symbolizes oviousness
ranDUMBcomment 1 month ago

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

xp to josh

infernal affairs was not campy but it takes itself really seriously and comes across as pretty silly at times because of it

― dayo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

oh boo hoo i won an oscar for not my best movie pffft

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

so no reaction to Whitey Bulger, eh, just this mediocre movie

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:55 AM

in a thread about the movie. go figure.

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

was the real whitey bulger as obnoxiously as jack in this movie?

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

"i'm such a whiiiiiiiimsical psychopath"

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

was he able to quote Joyce?

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

i think my favorite part in this is that one galoot's legit embarrassment over not dumping the guy far enough into the mawhsh

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

How nice of Morbs to drop in and repeat his semiannual brayings on this film

― SBing crosby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

why would you watch a baggy monster ~300 times? just a lazy fuck?

I didnt know there wasa Bulger thread, u fuckin fuck

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

Reading the recent Shickel/Scorsese interview book, Marty takes this movie a lot more seriously than people seem to think he does. He goes on and on in different contexts about the whole "I smell a rat" scene and how it's the hinge of the whole movie and, to some degree, his whole career!

― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

xxp hey, at least he hasn't said "Apatow" yet.

― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

i am very lazy, but i don't really understand why i've watched it so many times. so enjoyable for some reason.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

i watched this movie more than 300 times because it was on pay cable every three hours for about six months and i was probably too drunk to find the remote

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

but also i like baggy monsters, in movies and novels.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

yes it is on fx a lot

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

unlike Kundun

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

plus it is hilarious if not a "good" movie

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

that movie is bad, is the thing

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

woah morbius - LANGUAGE!

― $^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

i do wish the roles had been reversed and damon had gotten to pistol whip leo though

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

also heard secondhand that Marty was angry that he won his Oscar for THIS of all things.

What a jerk.

― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

i like leo in this movie

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

he heard it secondhand it might not be true!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

when u say 'baggy monster' i thought u were talking about wahlberg in the tracksuit and slippers

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

what you don't understand is that morbius heard it secondhand from marty's mother

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

i am very lazy, but i don't really understand why i've watched it so many times. so enjoyable for some reason.

― horseshoe, Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:03 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

BECAUSE ITS AWESOME IS WHY

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

he went over for some peppers and sausage

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

he heard it secondhand it might not be true!

What a relief.

― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

the oscar was clearly the susan lucci pity party lifetime achievement award for marty

as far as this goes it's a lot less heinous than scent of a woman or crazy heart

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

don't ask marty's mother though, she's probably tired from fucking marty's father

― dayo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

his dead father?

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

lol they're both dead actually

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

rip

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

Let 'em know she's not a fag.

― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Misdaad/GoodTommyMoeder.jpg

"every day i gotta deal with these pricks on a message board who don't know nothin about film. it's a sin, ma."

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

All due respect to noted thespian robert deniro, but i think this is my favorite scorsese film since after hours.

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)

though that statement should suggest i'm not really in this for the catholicism

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)

I've warmed to this too, partly thanks to its cable run in '07. Still too fucking long though.

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

I did see his parents once! before they fuckin' died

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

were they wearing tracksuits and booties?

― remy bean, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

they were fuckin

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

ive mentioned this before prob in this v thread but the part where every character gets shot in the head had the best audience reaction ive ever witnessed in a movie theater, that alone imho is deserving of props

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

also there are many other props deserving aspects of this film

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

duly noted by the Academy!

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

ray winstone did have one of the best death scenes of the 21st-century

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

xp don't you mean dooley?

― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:16 (fourteen years ago)

also there are many other props deserving aspects of this film

― ice cr?m, Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:14 AM

^ dropkick murphys fan

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:17 (fourteen years ago)

I like how the opening title appears something like 12 minutes into the movie.

― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

I love how there's even an opening title.

― ephendophile (Eric H.), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

lol can i tell you another story i prob told upthread, so a friend of mine in the late 90s was in this not that good band who had sort of a novel schtick which was that they combined hardcore and irish music, it would prob be insulting to say that they were basically like the bostones but w/penny whistle instead of horns but w/e, anyway one night they played w/this stando boring hardcore band called the dropkick murphys who after watching them perform got really excited and were freaking out and crazily complimenting them over the whole irish fusion concept, anyway i iirc they thanked them in the liner notes of their first album

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

you were there

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

shipping up to boston brb

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

I like how the opening title appears something like 12 minutes into the movie.

Jerry Lewis did 20 minutes once, Apichatpong Weerasethakul even longer.

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

only 10 people were at that show but all of them are now the dropkick murphys

― dayo, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

omg dr. morbius has seen the day the clown cried

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

only Lewis title u can name, rite

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

psssh i bet strongo doesn't even know cinderfella exists

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:29 (fourteen years ago)

imagine my face when i learned the nutty professor was a remake

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

its cool only french people like that guy anyway

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

philistines, watch The Geisha Boy immediately and report back post haste

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:33 (fourteen years ago)

POLL POLL POLL.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:37 (fourteen years ago)

what to see 38 votes for The Nutty Professor and no one's seen Which Way To The Front? We already know you're all off tickling Seth Rogen's taint, it'll just be depressing to see Three On A Couch get a goose egg

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:39 (fourteen years ago)

watching that movie with scorsese's parents, what a lovely day that was

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://grab.by/cC5z

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

lol rong thread

― ice cr?m, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Epic Jerry Lewis cop movie.

― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

classic shot from Next Stop Central Booking, I recognized it instantly

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

― da croupier, Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:39 AM

you've got jerry's imdb open in another tab admit it

― am0n, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

not this second no

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

also i have seen which way to the front? my best friend in college was a weirdo

― da croupier, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

but even at the time I kept wondering, what's with all the jokes? It's like Marty was encroaching on Coen Bros territory.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:46 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

marty's always been making great comedies, such as taxi driver and goodfellas

― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

ts wahlberg's cop in departed vs his cop in 'the other guys'

same difference. well, wahlberg prob funnier in departed.

also apparently no-one in boston knows that a building can have more than one entrance.

― ledge, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

I just saw The Departed for the first time, and thought it was interesting how the plot followed the plot of Infernal Affairs quite faithfully, except for a major change at the very end...

(WARNING! SPOILERS FOR BOTH MOVIES WILL FOLLOW!)

In the original, Lau (the mole in the police force) walks away scot-free after Chan (the mole in the triad) has been killed. But in the remake, Sullivan (the counterpart to Lau) is shot by Dignam, a character who has no equivalent in the original, and who seems to have been added to the plot for the sole purpose that he can kill Sullivan at the end. So, in the original it seems Lau basically escapes his karma, except that it's strongly implied that the he will bear a heavy burden of guilt for the rest of his life. Whereas in the remake karma catches up with Sullivan in the form of Dignam... Funnily enough, this makes the The Departed both bleaker (both protagonists die), and more moralistic (justice is served) than the original.

On the other hand, in Infernal Affairs the idea that Lau genuinely wants to become a "good cop" is more evident. Here's another crucial difference between the movies: in The Departed the mob boss is revealed to be an FBI informant, and the biggest reason Sullivan betrays him seems to be that he wants to save his own ass, whereas in Infernal Affairs there's no informant angle, and Lau betrays his boss mostly because he realizes he could actually become one of the good guys. Because of this difference, Lau's guilt over Chan's death in Infernal Affairs feels genuine, whereas if Sullivan had survived in The Departed, he probably would've just been happy to get through the whole affair unscathed and not felt much remorse for what he had done.

So, even though both movies are seemingly about the gray area between morality and immorality, The Departed still wants to keep the line between more clear (the bad cop mostly remains bad, and is punished with death), whereas Infernal Affairs muddles things more (the bad cop wants to become a good cop, manages to pull it off, but is punished with guilt). I know that The Departed wasn't written by Scorsese, but it's interesting that a director known for movies of high moral ambiguity (you could argue that the ending of Taxi Driver is rather similar to the ending of Infernal Affairs in this regard) chose a more black & white conclusion over the gray one in the original material.

― Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 13:59 (thirteen years ago)

Also, in IA the mob boss seemed to be a pretty reasonable guy for a mob boss, whereas in TD Nicholson makes him a caricature of pure evil.

― Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

nice post tuomas

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

I thought it was pretty interesting that even though TD is almost an hour longer than IA, IA still manages to get its points across better. Of course, IA does it more through archetypes and downright cliches, but IMO these cliches work in it, because they're used as shorthand to outline the central character relations and conflicts, which still remain interesting. TD is more idiosyncratic and tries to flesh out the characters better, but most of the things that are added to the remake only serve to confuse what it's all about.

In IA the father-son relationship between the mole cop and his commanding officer is quite evident, in TD this doesn't really come across, and hence the old cop's sacrifice for the young cop feels unearned. In IA mob loyalty is emphasized, and both protagonists breaking it in their own way is a major theme; in TD it feels as if Costello doesn't even care whether there is a mole or not in his gang, and in the end he's revealed to be an informant himself, a twist that makes little sense, except for providing Sullivan with a more selfish reason for killing him.

In IA one of the gangsters figures out Chan might be the mole, but doesn't rat him out because Chan is his friend, so he feels conflicted and isn't sure what to do. In TD, in the equivalent scene, there's no good explanation for the gangster not ratting Costigan out; he possibly might've been a mole himself, but this is left unclear, and there's no special relationship between him and Costigan. Lau's wife and Chan's psychiatrist/girlfriend are conflated into on character in TD, but this serves no narrative purpose at all... Neither protagonist finds out that they're both seeing the same woman, and the ending with her still plays out the same way as it did with the two women in IA.

So yeah, it almost seems like the makers of TD thought IA's central conflicts of morality vs. selfishness and loyalty vs. personal integrity were a bit too corny, so they decided to de-emphasize them and focus more on the move -> countermove chess game aspects of the story. But if that's the case, they didn't really get that even if those moral conflicts in IA were corny, they're the things that brought the whole story to life. To me at least, not caring about these themes meant the movie didn't care about its characters, so I didn't really care about them either. Just goes to proof that sometimes being a bit cliched and corny can be a good thing.

― Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:59 (thirteen years ago)

interesting posts tuomas, i always like analyses of the raw elements of theme and plot

i've never seen IA (shameful i know), but,fwiw, the element of Costello being an fbi informant was added because the man he was based on, Whitey Bulger, was such an informant for years. it adds another layer to the theme of constant duplicity and also stands as explanation why Costello could be so (increasingly!) violent and not be taken down -- in an american context, having a big, powerful criminal enterprise left to state-level police to handle is a little bit anomalous (i think); it's exactly the kind of thing you would expect federal-level authorities to be responsible for. the failed efforts of the feds on-screen (alec baldwin) fit with this i think.

and also, fwiw: "Dignam, a character who has no equivalent in the original, and who seems to have been added to the plot for the sole purpose that he can kill Sullivan at the end."

that's not his sole purpose! other purposes: to have mark wahlberg have a bad haircut and say hilarious shit every appearance and play the "bad older brother" to sheen's good father.

less flippantly, i think the concept of audience connection to (or "caring about") character is not necessarily tied to theme. there is a pleasure in having movie stars cut loose and chew scenery that has its own kind of driving logic. putting wahlberg, baldwin and nicholson (plus ray winstone, kevin corrigan) is just flagrant in this way; you know you are going to watch men bark and yell and say funny shit and that's part of what will keep you going

― goole, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Well yeah, I like movies that do that too, but IMO they shouldn't try to be something else, then. Like, After Hours and Bringing Out the Dead are both good movies exactly because they're all about these small vignettes, and they don't pretend to have a bigger story or anything. But with TD, the big story was still there, it had pretty much all the basic character relations (like the aforementioned father-son stuff) and plot beats from IA, but the acting and directing was just weirdly detached from them. In the original, the moral conflicts of the two protagonists are felt much stronger, and it actually manages to pull a neat Hitchcockian trick of making the viewer root for both, not wanting either one to be caught. And because of this the movie's most impressive scene is the one where Chan (the fake gangster) is tailing Lau (the fake cop) after he's met the mob boss, and Lau notes him, and suddenly they both know who the other one is, and that the other knows this, but they can't see the other well enough to figure out his identity... That is a wonderfully constructed scene, and it works because you kinda root for both guys, so at the same you want and don't want either one to figure the other's identity. And in TD, they've copied that scene quite faithfully (except that the tension is already a bit ruined to begin with by Nicholson's goofy dildo waving), and technically it should work as well as in the original, but it doesn't, because you don't really care about these guys and their situation the same way you do in IA. So yeah, the scenery chewing and dialogue in TD was totally entertaining, but the suspense plot (which still was a pretty big part of the movie) feels almost like a separate thing from it, so you don't really invest in it the way you do in IA.

― Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

In TD, in the equivalent scene, there's no good explanation for the gangster not ratting Costigan out; he possibly might've been a mole himself, but this is left unclear, and there's no special relationship between him and Costigan.

i thought that his molehood was abundantly clear?

― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

(other dude)

― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

No, the only real proof for his molehood is that a news report quotes the police he was a mole, but Costello himself points out that the cops might've just lied about that to get the heat off the real mole. Since there's no other indication that he was a cop, this seems to be the more likely explanation. The same thing happens with the counterpart guy in IA, but IIRC in that movie it's more clear that police were just lying to protect their real mole, whereas TD plays it more ambiguously for reasons I don't really get, since the guy in TD is a pretty insignificant character.

― Tuomas, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

Lol

― darrrrggghhh daylight savings (darraghmac), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

great lol!

― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

hahahaha i knew this revive would pay off

― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

???

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 07:45 (thirteen years ago)

The Departed's virtues lie in the fun that the actors are having with it (well except for Leo I guess.) The plot's pretty over-the-top and unsubtle for the most part.

― la noche de la vaca (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:03 (thirteen years ago)

I always found "and i ask myself...could i do murder?" pretty funny for some weird reason

― Number None, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 10:22 (thirteen years ago)

Cant believe scorsese wasnt able to translate IA properly tbh

― gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:04 (thirteen years ago)

That was not my point; my point was that if you just want to do a movie that's all about actors having fun with their characters, why choose a complex and thematically rich story that's hardly the best vehicle for such actor showcasing? The plot and the characters of IA don't quite jibe with what Scorsese & co are doing in TD, and yet pretty much everything from the original story was kept intact. A simpler and less serious script would've worked much better for the sort of actor-driven gangster story TD seemed to aim for.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

'imo' is only three letters long

― gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:02 (thirteen years ago)

I mean we're all obv just fartblowing here but if your position is gonna be 'this awesome movie makes different choices from what i personally would have done and it's all wrong' then an imo frames it nicely imo

― gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:07 (thirteen years ago)

tuomas has made some good points and u r being a ding ding 'imo'

― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:11 (thirteen years ago)

Nah that's fair i'm carrying over mad issues from the twin peaks thread sorry big t love yr work rly

― gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

What Twin Peaks thread? I don't remember posting anything about Twin Peaks for ages.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:17 (thirteen years ago)

Lol i'm only getting round to it now i am beefing with tuomas from idk 2008

― gubba hoy hoy (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:21 (thirteen years ago)

tbf I don't think tuomas' opinions have changed much since then

― his girlfriend was all 'ugh and he wears a solar backpack' (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

whose baby was she carrying? do we ever find out? maybe i missed something..

― piscesx, Saturday, 18 May 2013 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

the implication is that it's dicap's

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 18 May 2013 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

ah right, cheers.

― piscesx, Saturday, 18 May 2013 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

watched again last night, still great. noticed a series of hints implying the homosexuality of damon's character, google confirms i'm not the only person to notice this but wondering if other ilxors picked up on that?

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

He couldn't get it up, yeah, and Frank makes that crack about Sullivan meeting him in the porn theater ("Never thought I'd see you in one of these places")

*he said, five years later*

― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)

Marty was upset they gave him an Oscar for this crap

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 September 2018 15:16 (seven years ago)

as you pointed out in this thread already

― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2018 15:17 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Hoberman. Hee hee:
Scorsese has a long history of burdening films with unpleasant and even atrocious central performances, and Nicholson seems bent on twirling the mustache off Daniel Day-Lewis's heavy in Gangs of New York—a role that really belonged to producer Harvey Weinstein.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, October 4, 2006 10:07 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yikes!

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 October 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

i mean

damon and dicaprio trying to keep these sheets nailed down but every time they get a corner secured nicholson ratface or wahlberg speedfreak or a baldwin arhhh just bursts outtve another one

― topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:25 (seven years ago)

im not able to rule on ray winstones accent can someone rule on winstones accent

― topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:29 (seven years ago)

if Spike Lee wins an Oscar for this year's mediocrity, the Scorsese-Departed parallel will be complete

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:32 (seven years ago)

yes yes we know everything was better when only you remembered it

― topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:45 (seven years ago)

im not able to rule on ray winstones accent can someone rule on winstones accent

it’s cockney iirc

― “I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 26 January 2019 22:47 (seven years ago)

― david waster phallus (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 January 2019 03:30 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

wanna watch Scorsese direct this? up on Vimeo.

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/05/departed-set-documentary-scorsese-at-work-1202231189/

― lukas, Friday, 15 May 2020 00:47 (six years ago)

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1T5xjwGJQ

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 23:37 (five years ago)

Marty should release his original 3.5 hour cut, the pacing is very strange to this one with everything wrapping up in 15 minutes.

― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 24 December 2020 04:26 (five years ago)

and he should get rid of that incessant guitar theme running throughout. It’s like water torture.

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:03 (five years ago)

I'M NOT A CAWP

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:05 (five years ago)

three years pass...

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Maybe fuck yourself

― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2024 05:42 (two years ago)

ten months pass...

Watched again for the first time in a few years, and (as a whole) worked better than it ever has.

― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 January 2025 17:25 (one year ago)

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