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Since 16 seems to have died a premature death.

Queen Kate's Rules apply, as usual.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Let's start it off with G00blar's castle, since this did not attract enough comment:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dgoobl/castleresize1.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dgoobl/castleresize2.jpg

Man I wish the view from my office looked like this:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/dgoobl/castlegardenresize.jpg

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

G00blar needs to start smoking a pipe.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

so what happened to the old thread?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

No idea. It just stopped working. Kinda like our MySpace, but I can blame the BBC for that. Maybe the BBC broke our thread, too.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

everyone's myspace is broke. i think myspace is broke.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Mine remains fine. I am special, clearly!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Onimo broke it with his frivolity. THE INTERNETS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, D00D.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry man.

I just checked and I can open LOADS of myspace pages but not the SC one. It's a conspiracy!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Let go.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, i can get to mine and all the others i tried.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's come back now, all of them have.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, mine works too now.

i don't know whether to LOL@aldo or destroy him.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Destroy!!!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

judging by his cider stash, he's destroying himself anyway. let's just watch him do that. and video it. and watch it again.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

No, I've got a better idea. Let's nick his cider stash, and then he will REALLY be destroyed.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

Is that http://static.flickr.com/46/115757881_6d16dd30e4.jpg?

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

When you went to visit Gooblar?

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's Penshurst. Different castle entirely! In fact, totally different architectural style and all!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

...I suppose except for the brick Tudor wing to the left, but you can barely see it in that photo.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Castle helps defence against all pre-gunpowder units.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

OK, the spazz is just being weird fullstop. I'm trying to view my sisX0r's profile, and it says that you cannot view this person's profile unless you are their friend. And she is my friend! Or else I would not have had her turn up in my top eight to click through onto!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.contentinternational.com/images/new_films/Capture_the_castle.jpg

― C J (C J), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'd link to the song, but whoops, it's down!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Tuesday: I sign up to Myspace

Wednesday: Myspace completely broken

Aaargh! Paranoia!!!!!!!!111!!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

it's because you put that picture of your ass on your profile.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

And, anyway, it's not an ass, it's an arse. I am British, you know ;-)

* pours another cup of tea before going to colonise a few native territories *

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

sure sure. no way to prove it now.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

OK, this is frankly bizarre. Posts I made an hour ago are turning up to the other Watercooler only just now. Even though it totally timed out when I tried to post the first time.

And I've gone from spooky T.C. Lethbridge (how is the book, Ed?) to sunn0)))/BORIS again.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh ugh, why do I bother looking at ILM? It just makes me feel unclean these days.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE ARE ALL THOSE GHOST POSTS COMING FROM ON THE OTHER THEAD?!?!?

Mummy, I'm scared.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Two threads in parallel - I think we should have a rule that we have to post alternately to each one, just to confuse people.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

haven't any time for more than a glance at the booklet. But there are some biographical essays/memoirs and a bibliography with a short précis of all of Lethbridge's books.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

no more rules, please.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

More rules! more rules! Let's make more and more rules until it's so arcane and confusing not even cricket fans can understand what's going on! and then I can shout "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!" all I like.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm squeezing your head

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

things always come around.
big lolz: back when i first got on the interwebs, in like 1996, gee, i really took a lot of shit from a couple of sorry individuals at college who thought it was hilariously sad of me to meet and talk to people online. i just found their myspace pages. lololololololadinfinitum

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

And I've gone from spooky T.C. Lethbridge (how is the book, Ed?) to sunn 0)))/BORIS again.

Kate, check out Souvenir's Young America.

SOUVENIR'S YOUNG AMERICA - "s/t" LP - sounds like MOGWAI, RED SPAROWES,VANGELIS.
release date : 09.2006
http://www.syarva.com, http://www.myspace.com/souvenirsyoungamerica CD version available now on underardar records,http://www.underadar.com

If anyone wants the album ask Kate.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

tissp would love it. Where is he?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno. He's answering text messages but not web stuffs.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

my phone keeps forgetting the word 'frisbee'.
fucking thing.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

New watercooler, oh my! Thanks for reviving my castle-bragging, K8. Suddenly living in Paddington seems even shittier--i didn't think that was possible. THANKS CASTLE.

xpost "keeps on forgetting"? Are you texting the word frisbee often? If so, awesome!

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like a harsh commute.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Your phone is being serious, kitster

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, though it's more the expense than the time that bothers (£50, there and back, counting cabs). Tube to victoria, hour and twenty train to polegate, fifteen minute cab to castle. I am only going down once a week.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

going down once a week can easily earn you back the cab fare

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Beware the dangerous ken; it lurks for days, seemingly invisible, before striking--without warning--with its deadly poison.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

The main things I can remember about T C Lethbridge:

a) He had a theory that a certain type of archaeological site (possibly either brochs or semi-brochs - my memory is hazy) probably had tent-style fabric roofs, because the size and shape of their floorplan was very close to that of the standard British Army infantry tent of the time

b) Wasn't it him who used ground-probing techniques to discover lost chalk figures in the Gogmagog Hills? I've used ground-probing myself on a dig, and my experience is that it's not very reliable - it ends up being a join-the-dots game where most of the dots are missing.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

i know you knew i was gonna say this, but get a bike and ride it from home to victoria and polegate to the castle?

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

That's OK if you're allowed to take it on the train between Victoria and Polegate, of course.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

you are, and if you have to travel in restricted times when you're not, get a foldy one.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Probably not convenient for me, 'cause I'll usually have stuff (clothes and books, etc.) with me. Also, I'm lazy and for some reason would rather pay £50 a week for travel than shell out for a bike.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

You could pay for an Ed style whizzy fizzbang bike in a month or two!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

*shrugs*

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I am having one of those afternoons when I can neither think nor concentrate. I'm convinced it's the detox.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

no, i'm having the same thing. it's the telly!

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

although i have eaten two nectarines and a banana and drank one glass of water so maybe my body thinks it's detoxong.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I still think a big cup of coffee, a few donuts and a glass of wine would sort me out, though.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

re: phone&frisbee:
yes, keeps forgetting. every two weeks or so it seems to decide not to store any of my user-inputed words anymore, which usually means re-entering 'frisbee', 'fucking' and 'roffle'.
i text the word frisbee every dry weekday.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Let go (or yr frisbee won't fly)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

^ kit you need to write that song ^

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

i don't do requests, you fuckers.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

^ and that one ^

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

mmmm... donuts....

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Mitya! Did you see your birthday balloons yesterday?

How did your move go?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I did. Thanks!!

Moving was... well, there's always a story isn't there? First of all, there was some kind of metro accident and I had to wait for 20 minutes for stopped trains to start running again to take me out to the hotel. (I know Londoners may not have sympathy, but trains here run every 2-5 minutes for most of the day, and there are very few breakdowns.)

I got a taxi pretty quickly once there but more or less immediately fell asleep upon getting in. As a result, I gave the driver the wrong address for where I was going, only realizing it after he had driven away, leaving me with five large bags in a dark courtyard nowhere near a place I could flag another car. Luckily the correct address wasn't too far away. (I can't do justice to this part without a picture of me trying to carry lord knows how many kilos of luggage.)

I got in the building and went up to the flat. I opened the external door and loaded my things into a kind of anteroom (in UK terms, imagine the entrance hall at street level of a house, when you live in a second floor flat). I locked the outer door and went to open the inner door only to find that my keys seemed not to work. I fiddled around a bit, stumped, before deciding to try and unlock the outer door again, since I appeared to be going crazy. Whew! It opened. More than that, though, I found that I had left my keys in the outer door.

Wait! How do I have two different sets of keys? And which one set belongs to this place?

I try the inner door again, and it opens! Thank God! I start loading those bags into the dark apartment when I hear a noise and then see a woman coming into the light. (What the hell is my friend's wife still doing here? She was leaving for Spain today? Oh wait, it's not her) It's a young Chinese woman.

And so on and so forth (above is all true), ending with my pizza arriving sometime around midnight. Hurrah! Now it is 8pm and I am going to eat my leftovers and watch whatever BBC Prime is feeding us tonight... (Oh, boo, an hour of "Kiss Me Kate" (a different one), then Gary Rhodes, then "My Hero").

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey! that was somewhat more eventful than I was expecting. And just who was the young Chinese woman, anyway?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Kiss Me Kate with Chris Langham in it? I doubt we'll be seeing that on our screens for a while now...

(it is truly dreadful, btw)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Young Chinese woman was... hm, nanny or maid or something of friends. (Friendly. Kind of cute, actually. :)

Yes, the very same. Surprised they are transmitting it in that light. Bring back Doctors, I say.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 14 September 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

Here's your happy morning news, folks, in case you were thinking how interesting Russia seems:

A friend of mine was assassinated last night, shot after leaving his weekly football game. Absolutely unbelievable. And I am stuck here at work, editing poorly written English about oil fields in Kazakhstan, trying to think straight and be "professional."

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 14 September 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus man, that's fucking awful. Was it the sort of thing he'd have expected?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

What in the fuck! Who was your friend? A politician? Businessman? How horrible.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

jesus!

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

My god mitya that's horrific. Are you sure you need to stay at work? Are there other friends there you can talk to/hang out with today instead while the news sinks in?

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ohmigod, Mitya, that's awful! Was this the influential friend you've mentioned before on the Cooler? God, I'm so sorry.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. Mitya, that's awful!

I am knackered, cos I was out at a pub last night, at one of the regular monthly meetups I do - and said pub is 75 miles from the office. It was the meetup at which I met a certain special person, and it was the first time we'd been to it "together", which felt a bit odd. Especially as her ex was there too.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

First public appearance, then? Awwwww.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

First public appearance in front of lots of our friends, as opposed to just one or two.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sending my condolences and outrage too, Mitya--holy shit!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

"Fantasy World"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5338248.stm

Sigh. We got a hundred new friends overnight, though.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably because of Mitya's sad news, but I just glanced up at the top of my screen and read "I Lost Everything New Answers".

I need a coffee.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wow that piece really takes a turn when it hits "Second Life' and doesn't look back.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, they've really been pushing this "second life" thing, and kind of shoehorning it into other articles it doesn't really fit in.

I don't really get those online RPG things, but whatevs. What on earth do they have to do with music networking tools?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

don't get me started on MMOs, kids.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know what that is. (And don't really want to know.)

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot get started with work today. Help. No focus.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

User generated content is the connection there, it is strange that it's getting a big push now, since it's about as old as MySpace, if not a bit older. Perhaps it's gone through a stage similar to the one where every MySpace page looked like Max Headroom had thrown up on it, and is actually usable by people.

Now Duran Duran, that's shoehorning.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's much more MMO than RPG, but then according to the stats, so is ILX! :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

MMO on its own doesn't make much sense, surely? "Sentance fragment", as the Word grammar checker would say.

MMO = short for MMORPG = "massively multiplayer online RPG" - in other words, things like Second Life or World Of Warcraft that have tens or hundreds of thousands of players.

(sorry, I know you said you didn't really want to know)

(don't get started, kit!)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

No, I can understand us and Duran Duran going together, in that they are both bands who are using the interweb as a way to connect with their fans without record companies (do DD even *have* a record company any more?). The Second Life thing is the odd one out to me.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)

I just googled. And FFS, I wish I hadn't. I think that's one of those things like f**tb*ll and BB that I'm just going to pretend DOESN'T EXIST.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Argh I don't have time to argue this.

1) RPG (diablo2/neverwinter nights) -> MMORPG is a big step, similar in some ways to normal blogging to MySpace.
2) Second Life not actually a game, as they take pains to point out in the article. Or at least, no more of a game than ILX is.
3) Duran Duran are chucked in at the end, the direct implication is that they've become crafters in Second Life(!)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't Duran Duran play an "online gig" within Second Life recently?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Andrew OTM, though i can take it a step further and say that RPGs and MMOs really don't compare, except in setting & mythology in most cases.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

Look! Over there!!!

ELEPHANTS!!!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42085000/jpg/_42085606_pinkelephant_416.jpg

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't Duran Duran play an "online gig" within Second Life recently?

Yeah, they did. (Teh wife lives in SL a bit, but I don't think she was there.)

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also condolences to mitya -- that's shocking! :( Take care of yourself...

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that Spanish idea of "send unhealthy models to the doctor, not the catwalk" was actually the first breath of sense in an insane world. But then it really depressed me when I realised that there was no way in hell the chattering asses of ILX were going to be able to say anything sensible about it. :-(

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I should get offline and do some work today, dammit.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, all. If I have mentioned an influential friend before, then yes, it was him, as I only have (had) one. You can read about it on the beeb site...

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 14 September 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but won't somebody please think of the investors!!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 14 September 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, mitya, that sounds absolutely terrible!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 September 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

Slow afternoon. Where is everyone?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Fixing stuff.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Drying out after being caught in torrential rain.

― treefell (treefell), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I were *not* fixing stuff. I'm wading through pages of code, thinking "what flaming moron didn't annotate any of this?" and then realising it was me. D'oh!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

My head hurts.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

i just sent out the invitation mails for this year's TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY festivities. huzzah!

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Awww! Talk Like A Pirate Day is going to be soon, isn't it?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Tuesday next week.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Mitya, sorry to hear your news, that's really shitty :( All best wishes.

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, no, I'll be on the Isle of Wight, where everyone speaks like a pirate! All the time!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit mitya, that is appalling. my condolences.

Slow afternoon. Where is everyone?

temping in pimlico. an oasis cd got put on at 11am and it's still on. everyone is very impressed that shimura curves were on tv yesterday. (i am still babblestruck.)

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Thats awful, mitya.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

woo now it is something else!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Just finished editing an actually fairly well-written report on a juice and dairy company. Nothing to do and I want to go home, but it's not PC. (I keep waiting for someone to walk by and catch me on the 'cooler: "Nice work ethic, you haven't even been here a week...)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't everyone go home early the first week? because everyone's too busy to train you to do what you should be doing?

Cooler use should be established as early as possible as an inalienable right of the workers. Oh wait, I guess that whole socialist lack of a work ethic isn't so big over there any more? ;-)

I don't know. I can't keep my mind on work - but I did discover the secret to good green tea, i.e. don't leave the bag in so long as with regular tea! Tastes so much better.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

a combination of windows vista RC1 and the bbc 'have yr say' page is makng me want to go out and club some seal pups

suggestions for CALMING THE FUCK DOWN NOW pls people

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

have a wank

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say have a cup of green tea, but that up there looks a lot better.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

hmm that might go wrong and i'll end up with some strange windows related psycho-sexual problem which will mean i can only get aroused at the sight of the windows control panel or something

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Kate I decided to email that what music you listened to 1991-96 list thing to you and a couple of others rather than post it here.
However if you post your lists then of course I shall have to join in..

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

i've just found out there's a lethbridge close in lewisham, off the main road

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently our warehouse has just been rendered unusable by thunderstorms - a storm has just dumped enough water on the roof to tear a huge hole in it, flooding the offices.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Good thing you weren't in it!

I didn't even know there were storms.

Bah, I just FINALLY suceeded in plucking a long-escaping rogue grey hair - only to spy two new ones on the top of my head. This is well out of order. If I keep plucking, I'm going to have a bald patch. :-(

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

There was a massive storm here last night apparently, but I missed it completely - I was out, and got home just when it was all over.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, whingey whingey whinge whinge whinge. I didn't realise that Do Dirt wasn't until 9pm. What am I supposed to do until then? So I thought I'd go see my friend's band instead, they're not on until 10pm! I don't want to have to sit through 2 hours of rubbish support bands!

I can hardly go out drinking, coz I'm on a detox. Can't even go out to dinner, coz I brought something. If I end up going home like a loser again... bah.

I hate being old sometimes.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I thought this loneliness crap was supposed to change after you'd been on TV and were famous and shit. :-(

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

go to the pictures? i'd say come to my house and you can if you like, but i got work to do before going out...

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 14 September 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I suspect I'm feeling cranky because I'm starting to feel ill. My throat hurts. Probably the last thing I should is go out dancing. I just ate dinner, and I gotta answer some email, but I'll ring you when I leave here either way, OK?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

ok cool. i've just realised though, i'm working til 7 and i have to get home - took about 40 mins this morning but might be slower on the way home as this morning i thought i was gonna be late so was going quite fast.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'll text you, then... though I'm leaning more towards the "bah, I'm going home..." side.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. It is the last day before my holiday and I'm feeling a bit... funny.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

LOCK UP YR SONS!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

Eh? as if. Last night, I dreamed I was unbelievably horny, and it was the most unexpected feeling. I was very relieved when I woke up and it was just a dream.

Is blogspot down?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Um...

http://www.dudesweet.org/Fests%2006/Leeds/Peeps54.jpg
http://www.dudesweet.org/Fests%2006/Leeds/SecretMachines6.jpg
http://www.dudesweet.org/Fests%2006/Leeds/SecretMachines4.jpg

Nice shoegazing:

http://www.dudesweet.org/Fests%2006/Leeds/SecretMachines1.jpg

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

We just had a power cut here.

― treefell (treefell), Friday, 15 September 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am now TORN because there is a Sunday afternoon service at the Sonic Cathedral, but there is also going to be a HUNT!!! in Hyde Park. With horses! and dogs! And people dashing about after a fake fox! Which sounds like just about the best thing ever. And I want to go.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

I can't seem to find ANYTHING about it on the web, though. :-(

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

where did you hear about it?

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

I read about it in some free paper on the train.

And no, you're NOT coming, because I don't trust you not to act like a hunt sab. :-P

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently some bloke was nearly arrested in violation of the anti-hunting laws because his dog was chasing SQUIRRELS in Hyde Park.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

TRY AND STOP ME!! nah i'm busy all day and night sunday anyway. it does sound like fun though. no sab action obv as hunting a fake fox = no problem at all. if the cuntryside alliance want to get their dressing up box out and ride around all day after a pretend fox that's totally fine, and if what they were really concerned about was the jobs lost due to the hunting ban, as they claim to be, then that's what they'd do. (if what they were REALLY concerned about was the ruin of public services infrastructure in the countryside, and they'd drop the bloody fox thing, i'd even be on their side.)

(/autorant)

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

if what they were REALLY concerned about was the ruin of public services infrastructure in the countryside

uuuhhhh... newsflash. If you actually paid attention to what they and other countryside organisations were concerned about, instead of getting your knickers in a twist over the "fox thing", you'd realise that they are one of the few organisations actually trying to highlight this issue and trying to do something about it.

But, you know, rural post office closures and road signs and the DEFRA mess don't get the press that hunting does.

Anyway, let's keep our class war out of this thread.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

Connaught Square Squirrel Hunt

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

And god, where did all my money go this month? I just checked my bank balance and I've been profligage on an unbelievable scale. I forgot I bought the extra hard drive, AND paid council tax, AND renewed my membership of the book-pusher Folio Society oh god, I've got to go and pick up my bounty after lunch and just saw a lovely lovely William Blake edition which I neeeeeeeeed. Bah.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

x-post, oh god, that sucks that it's no longer mounted.

See, that's the one thing these fox-hugging hunt sab cretins forget - their anti-hunt activities end up distressing the horses, and that's far more dangerous to animals than a dog chasing a few squirrels.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

First, you must prepare your “drag”. After various experiments, we discovered that it doesn’t need to look or smell anything like a squirrel. It just has to catch the hound’s eye. So we use an old sports sock.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

SOCKS HAVE RIGHTS TOO!, LEAGUE AGAINST CRUELTY TO SOCKS, SOCKS ARE FOR LIFE NOT JUST FOR CHRISTMAS!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

whenever i read ANYTHING about what they're saying it's all "hunt hunt hunt blah hunt our rights tradition hunt blah blah oh yeah and pls to not close our post office". seriously dude if they would drop it, i would dance with them in the fields. bring it.

so it's ok to distress foxes but not horses? fuck that, it's bullshit! like people who think it's ok to eat, say, a cow but wouldn't eat a fwuffy ickle kitten. fuck them!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, GOD, I want to watch the hounds hunt socks!!!

Please can we move our band meeting?

x-post THEY ARE NOT DISTRESSING FOXES IN THIS HUNT!!! THEY ARE HUNTING SOCKS!!!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

"More than a quarter of classical music fans have tried cannabis"

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

Let me know if they find mine.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

yes i know! that is why there would be no point sabbing it! it sounds really cool!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

People are still planning to protest and have threatened to sab it, FFS. Hence why it is no longer mounted. :-(

See, I think sock hunting sounds brilliant, because one can participate in all those time-honoured class passtimes like dashing about with horses and dogs (which is all great fun) without foxes coming into it all.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

i like how they're all "ooh yes please come and protest! bring banners!" though. good reaction.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've got to go see the Comedy of Errors at the Globe tomorrow night with my students (part of their program is a number of 'field studies'--it's where education comes alive!). Even though I've lived in London for four years, and I'm an English student/teacher, I've embarrasingly never been to the Globe. I think I'm gonna go take the tour today and pretend like I've been there lots and lots.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been to the Globe, either. I've walked by it, though. I'm just not a big fan of dramatics.

BUT I WANT TO HUNT SOCKS!!!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

Why doesn't someone set up a hunt to chase fox hunters?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

We need Ed to post pictures of his game of "Sock".

Well, also Julian Cope's game of "Sock" but that is much harder as it requires copious amounts of LSD and a fast moving vehicle.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

woohoo i am working next week now!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Now I am in a bad mood. But I'm about to go and meet Mark H for lunch, so think happy thoughts and cheer up.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Enjoy the Globe gooblar! My only visit there was also with students and embarrasingly enough I had to leave halfway through Macbeth after nearly fainting, it was so hot. They do not let you sit on the floor even for a second if you have standing tickets, which frankly I find harsh. So much for authenticity, I doubt they patrolled the place ejecting groundlings on health and safety grounds in 1600.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Arrh the noble and ancient art of pirate sheep men tribal pocket sock wrestling.

Fuck I hate driving in london.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, have arrived in the meeting place for later - anything needs doing? You really have to bust a nut and get back here.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Well, lunch was very good, plus we dropped by the Folio Society and I now have MANY lovely books, mmmm, almost so many that I cannot carry them all. Hurrah!

And no one is in the office now, so I might just sit and read them instead of working.

(This is what I have been so profligage on... buying folio editions, it seems. Bah.)

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also my mum on the phone saying that my brother decided to get married this afternoon. OK, at least I have an excuse for not attending now - KINDA HARD TO GET TO NY FROM LONDON ON FIVE HOURS NOTICE.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Do all your family live in the states then Kate?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

My immediate family. The rest are scattered across the UK, Canada, South Africa and, errr... Borneo?

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5323086.stm

Anyone have a pair?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

ilx is a bit slow and rubbish today. it's friday, right? are people WORKING or something?

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not doing anything but counting down to my holiday.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going home in 5 minutes

― treefell (treefell), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Back from the Globe. They wouldn't let me take the tour of the theatre, 'cause a matinee was on, but I went through the exhibition. Pretty cool, but most of the time I was walking around chastising myself: "You've lived here for four years and you haven't once seen a play at the Globe!??! It's five quid!" etc., etc.

Did get some tasty treats for dinner at Borough Market afterwards.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Fri-sun ILX is always dead now. Ever since all those left for LJ.

Even louis is quiet.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno. I was wondering this morning, has ILX actually changed, or have I just changed?

I don't necessarily put myself on the line any more. I don't participate in "controversial" topics. If I start reading something, and it starts to wind me up, I walk away instead of flaming back.

And though it makes me a nicer and more calm person, it makes ILX less of an engaging experience for me.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I'm really starting to feel rough now. :-( I thought I wouldn't get sick if I stayed home last night.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

which library? SHOE LANE, that's which. Which is a very subterranean library. And provides a useful stopping off point between LSE and Brixton*, where I'm seeing I'm from Barcelona!!!!

anyway, lunch was excellent. The Princess Louise never disappoints. I am full of cheese. They really were HUGE lumps of cheese in that cheese salad. May lead to interesting dreams on the Oxford Tube tonite!

* well, one useful stopping off point, it closes at 5.30.

― MarkH in the library (MarkH), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

There doesn't seem to be that many controversial topics thesedays.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I know that library, it's an interesting building.

That was an almost excessive amount of cheese, too.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

I had to operate those bookstacks on rails in the LSE library. I almost felt like a librarian. They do have locks on them these days, to stop people becoming bookstack sandwiches.

Then I discovered that the stats i needed on Taiwan were on the very top shelf, so had to retrieve the stepladder on wheels, which had a bad cas of Supermarket Trolley Syndrome and was meandering all over t'place. Wonder if anyone's ever tried to motorise one of those things??? Could be interesting.....

― MarkH in the library (MarkH), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Fri-sun ILX is always dead now. Ever since all those left for LJ.

How many people defected off to LJ and don't still post here? With thousands of registered users, a few Londoners chatting elsewhere can't make *that* much of a difference? And were they really hanging around the house posting to ILX at the weekends when they were here? ILX has always been quieter at weekends since it's mostly a "waste time at work" pursuit.

Aren't there several million threads about old-ILX v nu-ILX v LiveJournal and whatever already?

FWIW, since we're talking about the changing face of ILX on this thread now anyway, yes, of course ILX has changed. It'll continue to change. There's a shift in the "population" (for want of a better word), people have left, new people have joined. On a personal note, some people I liked aren't here, some people I dislike seem to have disappeared to. Similarly, new faces arrive, some I like, some I don't. It'd be boring if it was the same old people talking about the same old things, and the people here now aren't very much different from the people who were here before in terms of number and diversity and whathaveyou.

There doesn't seem to be that many controversial topics thesedays.

Find one! Make something up! Get people talking like in the old days before it got so boring or whatever people's problem is with it these days! (note: I don't find ILX any more or less boring than I used to, but others evidently do or they wouldn't be talking about it)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

LJ can never replace ILX. It's too fiddly. I have an LJ account but never use it coz I really can't be arsed.

― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

It was always dead at the weekends, but it was usually a hive of skiving on Friday afternoons UK time.

I was saying more that *I* had changed, rather than ILX. There have been a couple of topics over the past week, that once upon a time, I would have been in like a shot, and debating away. But I just don't have it in me any more. If it's something I really truly believe in, I don't care to have it shat on by the chattering asses. If it's something I don't truly believe in, I can't be bothered with expressing myself either way.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, turns out that Benjamin's birthday is next week and I won't even be on the interweb. :-(

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Go jump out of a cake for him.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, it was just that you asked if it was ILX that had changed or whether it was you. If you've stopped being bothered with sticking up for what you believe in, then fair dos, but you can't blame a changing ILX for that. You're far from the only one who gets their arguments shot down in flames, and that's always been the case.

I still fail to see what a couple of people fucking off to LiveJournal has to do with the quietness of ILX over the weekend. Hard to believe, I know, but people do have lives outside of ILX :-)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

yeah what happened to mark s and ewings i & ii and all that lot?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

When I said friday I meant all day friday, not friday night. Yeah sat & sun are quiet because noones at work but im sure not everyone is off on a friday daytime.
ILM is a lot quieter at times than ILE,apart from a few threads, and I don't know why that is. Maybe a lot of people just got bored with it? Or maybe it always was quieter than ILE and I just didn't know because for years I never read ILE and stuck to ILM.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

That should have started "When I said friday I meant daytime friday, not friday night. "

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

You said fri-sun, actually. I don't give a fuck. I'm going OUT.

You're obviously here. Talk about interesting stuff yourself instead of grumping because people aren't performing monkeys for your entertainment.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, all. My boss is off to London this afternoon, so I should feel less timid about appearing on the 'cooler this week. Hope you had good weekends!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Kate and I went to the sock hunt:

http://static.flickr.com/84/246245603_11d221fbc7.jpg?v=0

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hullo hullo. I seem to have missed a wedding. (And of course everyone should talk here rather than on LJ or anywhere else because I am selfish. Grr.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 September 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

The wedding was ace and happened over a 4 night marathon, I am completely pickled; I actually fell asleep in the pub on saturday night, there are photos of that but my phone doesn't seem to want to make nice with Martina's MMS.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

xpost nice photo. How was the sock hunt?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. My head hurts.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

The sock hunt was interesting. I don't really have a position on hunting with dogs, I was largely disgusted by the waste of parliamentary time over the issue especially when there are much graver and more concerning animal rights issues such as battery chicken and pig farming which are a whole lot more horrific than hunting with dogs.

All lot of very posh people with a point to make, chasing after a dog, chasing after a sock, being dragger by another posh person. Very bizarre, I feel rather uncomfortable around the upper classes, one of them conformed to stereotype by exclaiming, 'I'm sweating like a N1gg£r'.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

yeah what happened to mark s and ewings i & ii and all that lot?

Mark S: LJ
Tom E: LJ apart from ILC
Al E:Ditto
Starry: LJ
Carsmile: LJ
Martin: Crippling depression/See Tom
Magnus: LJ
Lixi: LJ
Ricky T: LJ
Me: LJ apart from this and related threads.

Between both camps: Stevem, Matt DC, Robster, Alan, Anthony E, Jerry The Nipper

xpost - !!!!!!!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think the banning of foxhunting has proved to be so classic, if only for this one reason...

Each election since, the issue of foxhunting has been uppermost in the Tory pledges. So forget anything about making the world a better place for all. Foxhunting is first. Priority number one.

Don;t forget that, y'all.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

I do not understand all the LJ love.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

You know, even though she's being utterly bitchy in the way she expresses it, Ailsa has a point. Debating why ILX is "boring" or if it isn't or not is even more boring than ILX at its boringest. So let's ban that discussion from the Cooler, and soon we really will have nothing to talk about! Except Sockshunting.

Which is, clearly, the best thing, ever.

AMPy and I were totally lusted out over the posh totty on display. Oh my lord, public schoolboys (and the Gentlemen Farmers they grow into) why are you so cute?

The man I lost my heart to is somewhere in this picture:

http://static.flickr.com/79/246245370_b26794de8e.jpg

It's OK, Ned, I wasn't invited to the wedding, either.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

Where else can you meet young men named "Merlin" wearing jodpurs and kinky boots?

http://static.flickr.com/87/246244483_69a04fbb7b.jpg

Why, Mr. Darcy! I am undone!!!

http://static.flickr.com/93/246244666_264ff7885a.jpg

(I am waiting for AMPy to upload the one that I fancied.)

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

the sock hunters look like real cock farmers to me.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaahhh, thank you, AMPy.

http://static.flickr.com/85/246352631_8148c59e3a.jpg

Here he is, arguing with a hunt sab who was secretly filming the events. He was just so well spoken, and so dashing. I almost never fancy older men, but... Wow.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

hellos.

what a strange weekend. i am slightly shellshocked and very, very disappointed by the ILG War of Grammar Beef.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with koogy.

I thought you were away on holiday this week Kate?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Mark S: LJ
Tom E: LJ apart from ILC
Al E:Ditto
Starry: LJ
Carsmile: LJ
Martin: Crippling depression/See Tom
Magnus: LJ
Lixi: LJ
Ricky T: LJ
Me: LJ apart from this and related threads.

was there some big war i missed like in doctor who or something?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, and I am the last of the Time Lords, fighting against LiveJournal Daleks and still knocking around here.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

i only recognise like three names in that list.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

yes pete i've heard about you offering to show young ladies your 'sonic screwdriver'

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

girls don't fall for that, anymore. "Hydrospanner" works a treat, though.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

Just read a big article in the Sunday Times about the slaying of Mitya's friend. The deal, as far as I could make out, was something along the lines of 'Banker is incorruptible, banker is honest, principled and honourable, banker is murdered'.

If that's how society works there then I'm fucking glad I'm not a resident.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

that's a mafiocracy for you

so anyway livejournals? WTF?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

i am having a PIRATE PARTY tomorrow.
i bought some new lino for my kitchen last week, and it came on a THREE METRE ROLL, so i've unrolled it all and kept the cardboard tube, so i can tie a flag to it and use it as a MAST.
YARR! i'm 27 years old.

― teh_kit looks like shit (and that's a good thing) (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone heard of these posh crisps? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5355818.stm
They don't want them sold in lowly old Tesco.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

and if ppl turn up without fancy dress, it's keelhaul time. can you keelhaul people in a nissan micra? LET'S FIND OUT!

― teh cap'n kittenbeard is gonna grab yr booty lol (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh and xposts to DG but I forgot to say Tom Ewing pops up now and again on ILM.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

and you're all invited.

― teh cap'n kittenbeard is gonna grab yr booty lol (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Meantime, I think Gooblar sent me a myspace invite but forgot to send a "HI DERE" message. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry, preoccupied with students who DID NOT READ THE BLOODY BOOK)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, r u gonna be able to make it to Pir8 Par-T?

― teh cap'n kittenbeard is gonna grab yr booty lol (g-kit), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't meaning to be bitchy, Kate, I was going for exasperated. I might have been falling on the side of drunk.

Anyway, that's, what, 10 people who've gone to LJ. It's hardly calamitous. Other people have gone to who knows where - parenthood, real life, other boards, don't know, by and large don't care.

Without wanting to get at Kerr, perhaps posting things like "has anyone seen these crisps" "what do people think of this here thread (insert link)" is not the most constructive way of keeping ILX active. It may keep this thread active (if anyone answered), but further balkanisation by dragging thread discussion off the main board and in here (which, let's face it, is a fairly exclusive hugglezfest) isn't doing anyone any favours. If people discuss everything solely in here rather than spreading themselves about a bit (as it were) - start new threads if you really want opinions! - then you're no different than the LJ bunch. I realise no-one actually does this, but it does seem to be hinted at occasionally. There used to be a whole bunch of people on TITTWIS who were all "I don't post anywhere but here", which is fine, but encouraging all discussion inwards to a balkanised thread is asking for trouble as that attitude can only lead to further balkanisation.

(I realise we're not talking about this any more, but I was at work, so I'm just getting my tuppenceworth in)

Anyway, those sockfarmers look quite dashing, but I wouldn't want to talk to any of them.

What's wrong with it is that they have the wrong dogs. The whole point of hunting is lovely lovely beagles!

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Mark S: LJ
Tom E: LJ apart from ILC
Al E:Ditto
Starry: LJ
Carsmile: LJ
Martin: Crippling depression/See Tom
Magnus: LJ
Lixi: LJ
Ricky T: LJ
Me: LJ apart from this and related threads.
Between both camps: Stevem, Matt DC, Robster, Alan, Anthony E, Jerry The Nipper

Damn! I'm totally forgotten! :( Pah.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

LJ: ???

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

What exactly does TITTWIS stand for? I've never actually clicked on that thread.

xpost to louis LJ= Live Journal.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I really hate fucking meta discussion.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

LiveJournal: a place where you can share your thoughts with the world!

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I've had anytime for any discussion today I have been mega busy and look like I will be all week

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

NONONO Kerr, I know that LJ = LiveJournal.

It also = something else though. :p

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Library Journal?

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

"TTITWIS" = "this is the thread where i say..." which was perhaps the 1st of the threads where ppl split off into groups.

meta = sux0r, ed is right.

I've been busy today.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

bah, I was looking forward to coming home and listing to this week's last.fm recommendations but it is poxy fuled.

anyone tried emusic.com yet? Worthwhile?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

so was there some big ruck or did people just drift off? i can't help but feel there's some stuff being skirted around here

i like emusic!

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

TITTWIS : This Is The Thread Where I Say.

It started off as Luna just rambling to herself, others joined in, then it got a bit US-centric or something so the UK Watercooler spun off from it. BTW, why does the watercooler still say UK when there are foreigners here?

Ed OTM, I was trying to nip it in the bud with what I thought was a reasonable "stop talking about how shit things are and just make it not shit" comment, but it's an impossible task to not make people talk about it once the can of worms is opened and spilling everywhere.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't recall any big ruck? I might be wrong, & missed something.

A lot of the old-timers are still here, a surprising number.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's cheap I'm might listen to boomkat's mailout instead and order some real records.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it's a bit unfair to new ILXors to maintain that the old lot were better. If you think it's shit now, MAKE IT BETTER YOURSELF.

There are tons of people turning up here who add to this board, as much as the people who remain, and the people who only exist in the archives these days. To moan because a dozen or so ILXors have buggered off to LiveJournal, dear God, have the moon on a stick and be done with it.

(I think the balkanisation is worse for the board than the changes in personnel, FWIW)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

boomkat's mailout is often daunting, 300k of records i know nothing about. emusic looks good but requires a credit card which i don't have. i am underutilising bleep.com i think.

oh, i know what i was going to say: this thread would've been a lot better if it was called "Watercooler: Seventeen (and not yet a woman)" but i may be showing my age there.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

are you talking to me ailsa? i'm not moaning, just wondering where people went! i drifted off here in like 2003 or so and it's all a bit different, and i like to know what's been going on

emusic currently offer me 90 tracks for £15 a month which looks like a good deal to me

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

(i think the type of post has changed as well, shorter and more jokey now. thread subjects are generally less thoughtworthy too, i feel. maybe we ran out of things to say. i also remember sinister doing the same. and the indiepop list before it.)

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like a good deal too, but I (rather bizarrely) am still attached to physical media. I'm going to start a thread on it.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of the old-timers are still here, a surprising number.
And theres probably loads who have just changed sign in names and I didn't know who they were and such. So possibly never left at all.

As a latecomer to the watercooler and having never really been an ILE person(as I said before I barely looked at it for years I was strictly ILM) til last year-ish really, I have no idea as to whether old ile was better or not. But from the few times I did glance at it I know it was a bit quieter now and this year it's more apparent. So I guess the balkanisation has been the main difference. Perhaps the fact that I succumbed to it should be proof to me.

I have no idea why people left to LJ, I am not aware of any ruckus.

x-posts

maybe we ran out of things to say.

That too.

But I like the watercooler so vive la watercooler!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

and sorry for keeping this stuff going. I'll stop now.

Ed > do you buy vinyl or cds?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

DG, no, I wasn't referring to you!

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Koogy, I know the same thing happened to Sinister and it went all meta with people discussing off-list how it wasn't as good and then just chatting amongst themselves on their meta board and not actually posting on the thread hence LIST DEATH.

I got all self-righteous and indignant about that too. Several years have past, and I'm still crap. However, then, like now, I still contribute elsewhere too rather than *just* moaning.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

past = passed. Told you I was crap.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

i can't be arsed with ILM anymore though, the pirahna-like fanboys put me off a tad

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 18 September 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have just started buying both vinyl and cds after a long absence from buying any kind of music at all.

I was going to have a nice healthy salad and bread and cheese dinner but the newly opened chinese takeaway across the road is weakening my resolve with some lovely smells.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

TITTWIS Fall '06: If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

*bangs head off wall*

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I was totally gonna write 'Ailsa OTM' for your comments upthread, but then I've gone and said hello on the TITTWAS, so I've lost what little moral authority I ever had.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

< meta and kicking myself>I kept off the balkanising thread for a long time but then I had to join to talk about anything, to be fair I spread myself fairly widely on them< /meat and kicking myself>

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

META IS MURDER

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, I kiss you.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

hey there is a dirk bogarde 'Doctor' film on the evening is looking up.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Which one?
I like the non Bogarde ones too with Michael Craig because Leslie Philips is in those ones. And of course sir lancealot spratt is in em all (apart from the one where its his twin brother the admiral)
I still have the 1st "doctor" film taped actually. "Whats the bleeding time?" cracks me up everytime despite having seen these films loads since I was a kid.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Doctor at Large

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

James Robertson Justice = Lancelot Spratt.
I forgot the name briefly.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Doctor at Large
Thats the 3rd one. What channel is it on? I think i'll watch it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Ahh Film 4. Got it on Film 4 +1. I havent seen this one in YEARS. Cheers ed.
I forgot Donald Sinden was in two of these films.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

< meta and kicking myself>I kept off the balkanising thread for a long time but then I had to join to talk about anything, to be fair I spread myself fairly widely on them< /meat and kicking myself>

Hey, I'm on this thread as well. Balkanisation is OK!! It's the "what does everyone think of this thread (link)" posts that get my dander up. Meta wankery ahoy! Dragging discussion of threads and their topic off thread and into balkanisation territory where only a few people care enough to read them.

I like reading about pirates and sockhunting and castles and stuff! I just don't see why it all has to be cooped up here in huggletown when they are subjects that other people's opinions on may be equally interesting to read. And tbh, when you open this thread and the first thing you read is "what Kate says, goes" or variations thereof, it must be hella off-putting for yer casual observer.

I'm all about the meta today. Sorry kids! *hugglez*

(xpost - there's a whole thread about films on Film 4 FFS!!)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

If Ed had posted this stuff on the film four thread, I would've missed it and not seen the film.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! An argument for getting out of the balkanisation trap! Read other threads!

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Think how many other people without the ability to read a TV guide will have missed it now since it's posted here and not in the rolling Film Four thread!

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh noes!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

well aside from the livejournal daleks is there anyone reading this thread who is central enough that it wouldn't be a huge hassle to contact the Union Tavern where Emma & Eli's reception was held and find out if they might be holding a size 40 or so suit jacket, dark grey, with barely-noticeable pinstriping?

I would really really really appreciate it.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 18 September 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I will pootle along there sometime over the next couple of days.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

There's a big button on the phone here in my dorm room that says "secrecy". What do you think it does?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Press it and see!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

He won't be allowed to tell us.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I just tried to get up, and fell down the stairs. Ow.

Me: "this means I should go off sick today, I think"

My mother: "no, this means you should go in to work today and for the next four days, and then stay home all weekend"

I think her logic is slightly flawed somewhere, but I'm too brain-addled to work out why.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

anyone tried emusic.com yet? Worthwhile?

As I've mentioned on EMusic - C/D, I very much think so, yes. Regarding physical media vs not, I've used it quite a bit for getting digital versions (for use on portable player, computer etc) of vinyl I already have, ie where the physical cd doesn't really give me anything I don't already have. This of course depends on your view on mp3s vs lossfree files. I find the mp3s are more than good enough for my uses.

Also, Ed, are you at all interested in classical stuff?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yes, I forgot, pirates. Arrr me hearties, etc etc.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

YARRRRRRRR!!!!

summat be tellin' me that today gon' be a good 'un, arrrrrr.

― teh cap'n kittenbeard is gonna grab yr booty lol (g-kit), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

Did you hurt yourself when you fell down the stairs FP, or was the falling down a symptom of something else (faintness?) that itself would be cause to stay off work? Either way you obviously should have done, five day weeks are inhumane anyway.

My phone has a 'privacy' button. How great it would be if it really meant that - press here and instantly a six foot high wall appears to protect me from the hordes of students around my desk.

I seem wake up at 4am at the moment, which is giving a surreal quality to my days but I suppose might be good practice for when the baby arrives...

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

(Good?) morning, all. There was a dorm-wide fire alarm last night at 2am here at the castle. I literally spent 10 minutes frantically trying to turn off my alarm before I finally realized what was happening. Standing out in the pissing freezing rain for 20 minutes in a t-shirt could not have been good for my health, and was definitely not good for my sleep.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

Tom - the jacket is there, I found it when I was searching for mine and Tracer phoned me up to ask about it the next day. He and Emma have it now.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Morn. (mourn?)

The LJ thing: Maybe when the server problems were happening, they went?

I dunno, if ILX closed, I'd probably not relocate. All that 'retelling the old stories' just to re-establish myself as to who I am. You guys here either know me or don't, by now.

I guess I'd end up getting on with something. Who knows.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

Did you hurt yourself when you fell down the stairs FP, or was the falling down a symptom of something else (faintness?) that itself would be cause to stay off work?

I think it was a sign that the infection I thought I had in my throat might have spread to my ears - my ears have been aching a lot lately, and I've been feeling very wobbly and unstable.

The only injuries were a few bruises, because I went feet-first.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

That was a particularly rubbish doctor film. No leslie phillips, bah.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

I couldnt remember that one at all. Leslie Philips is not in the ones with Dirk Bogarde. He's in the Michael Craig ones and one where its just him at sea.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Arrr, me hearties, and all that. I tried to explain the concept of "Talk Like a Pirate" at work, and people thought I had gone bonkers.

My legs hurt. It was Doors Open Day in Glasgow at the weekend, and everything we went to see featured lots and lots of steps. The punishment is telling on me now. I would love to use this as an excuse not to go into work, however I just used it as an excuse not to stray too far from my desk all day. If I'd fallen down stairs, I'd totally be staying at home as a precautionary measure of some description.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Arrrrhh! You have woman's legs, my lord! I'll wager those are legs that have never been sliced clean off by a falling sail, and swept into the sea before your very eyes.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

neither have yours.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

That's where you're wrong!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

My legs are going to take more of a battering going to see 22 men partaking of an activity we aren't allowed to talk about on this here thread. Who invented stadia with upper tiers anyway? Bastards have no consideration for my feeble wee girlie legs :-/

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Kerr and Onimo: hahahaha...

"They should be at the urine-drinking stage by now..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on, Onimo just called me "my lord". He may well find his legs spliced and flayed and whatnot himself tomorrow.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

(can you splice legs? That's something you do to mainbraces or sails or something, isn't it? I can't really do this "talking like a pirate" shit with any degree of authority)

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Stick to what you know, Ailsa, and KEEL-HAUL the blaggard!

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my keel-hauling skills are second to none*! Blaggard is an excellent word, isn't it? I need to brush up on some pirate-speak for next year.

* actually I have no idea what keel-hauling is, but it sounds suitable painful and dignity-robbing, so it'll do for me

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keel-hauling

It's unpleasant stuff (but has nothing on that menstruation thread, eugh).

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Note to self: Do not sign Paris Hilton songs to yourself in the metro in the morning, or if you do, at least hush up the "I could be the girl of your dreams" bit...

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh - don't siNG them, either...

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

I found I got stared at on the Moscow metro whatever I did.

Might be coming to Moscow for a trade fair in November, if i do, we should drink. How is travelling round russia in November? I might use up the last of my holiday time on some train journeys if I do get sent over.

Anyone going to http://www.stokefest.co.uk/ , chiefly I'm looking at you, Emsk.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

Vladivostok and back?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

Don't think I have that much time, I was thinking Sochi, if its safe enough to go there.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

Why would Sochi not be safe?

By November it will be proper winter by any standards, although it will get colder later. No idea what the coast is like then, I've only been there summer and fall.

Drinking is always possible :)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm I getting Sochi mixed up with Kazan?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm I = Am I

and I'm not. Sochi is close to a breakaway part of Georgia, no?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it's close to Abkhazia, but it's more Chechnya/Ingushetia where things are dangerous. Sochi is a prime holiday/convention destination for Russians. (Note G8 parliamentary meeting there this week.)

Abkhazia (in Georgia) is fucked up politically but safe, as far as I know. A friend of mine actually goes there for his summer holidays because it's cheaper and quieter than Sochi.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

> And tbh, when you open this thread and the first thing you read is "what Kate says, goes" or variations thereof, it must be hella off-putting for yer casual observer.

we should have a bloodless coup whilst she's away.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

The reason why my posting to ILX dwindled down to almost nothing was that they blocked it at work. Also blocked are blogger, LJ, myspace, friendster, okcupid, anything where you can download videos or mp3s...you get the idea. As I was never a major poster (I never got in the top 10 of the statscock back in the day for example) I don't suppose I was missed much except by ppl who knew me well. I did worry that ppl might think that I had developed an antisocial streak, however, as by not going onto ILX I didn't tend to find out about the social gatherings that resulted from it. Kate told me when I met her last Friday that FAPs had pretty much ceased to occur anyway.

I think it is only natural as ppl do grown up things like buying houses, marrying and dropping sprogs that they will spend less time on t'internet. However, I am perplexed about the LJ love. Surely LJ is simply blogger with more bells and whistles. I don't see how it can ever take the place of this board or any other board? I have always found blogs to be quite self indulgent things.

The sock hunt looked fun. I would have liked to have been there.

Koogy, there is nothing stopping you from starting your own "what Koogy says, goes" thread. I might start a "what MarkH says, goes" thread. It can be my own little Grand Fenwick.

― MarkH in another library (MarkH), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

> And tbh, when you open this thread and the first thing you read is "what Kate says, goes" or variations thereof, it must be hella off-putting for yer casual observer.
we should have a bloodless coup whilst she's away.
-- Koogy Yonderboy (il...) (webmail), Today 8:29 AM. (later) (link)

You could have one on the Mensuration thread, arf.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's about a bloody cup.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

ailsa's point (i believe) was that someone was dictating terms. doesn't particularly matter who that someone was.

i think the fap thing reached critical mass. wasn't anywhere really that could cope comfortably with 40 internet mentalists descending on it of an evening. people are still going to pubs with people (did it myself last night) but it's 6s or 7s not multiple 10s of people.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

woo, soweto kinch, yungun and mr thing at stokefest

― angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

However, I am perplexed about the LJ love.

I asked Tom about this a couple of months ago, as I am not a great LJ fan either. My understanding is that it was a combination of things, including a) the ability to easily do things like polls and b) the somewhat different mode of interaction. I also think, at the beginning at least, by hiving off into an area where participation required slightly more "commitment," the level of discourse went up. (But that's just my personal opinion.)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

> As I was never a major poster (I never got in the top 10 of the statscock back in the day for example) I don't suppose I was missed much

whilst you may not have posted much you did start quite a few thought-provoking threads which, as i said above*, is something ile is missing these days.

*um, maybe i wrote this and deleted it before hitting send. that happens a lot these days.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:30 (nineteen years ago)

the ability to easily do things like polls

but what's so great about polls?

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh noes teh STATSCOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Let's see who thinks so:

http://www.gradcenter.marlboro.edu/~jkramer/workshops/advcss/box-on.gif I like polls
http://www.gradcenter.marlboro.edu/~jkramer/workshops/advcss/box.gif I do not like polls

http://www.4info.net/images/submit.gif

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

we need a giant wicker statscock to burn louis in to appease dom

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

and blount, and ethan, and jessie. :(

For some reason they all think I'm a right-wing hater of Islam. Which couldn't be more insulting, or further from the truth.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

haha mark g :)

i don't hate polls or anything, but it seems odd that anyone would care enough for it to be a motivating force.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

lj's shit

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Lj is too large to be dominated, you're only a big name inside your friendslist, so the sort of people who need to make a big noise either don't come over (no Jess, no Blount), or adapt (IE Dom is actually quite sane there). The only real 'personality' on our version of ILM is The Lex, and that's been half and half now, there's a interesting thread unpicking his view of the universe for every one that's just baiting him.

Also, polls are brilliant, the recently-completed examination of all the NOW albums was a great view into how different people viewed different pop eras.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

Was the last large-scale FAP in the Artillery Arms last year? That might explain why people have shied away from them:(

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

ed, i would be at stokefest but i think i am going off with your forest lot! may be back in time to catch the end. does it actually finish at 7, or is that a lie?

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

'our version' so what LJ is something like this then?

http://www.alaska.net/~royce/JPEGs/mirror.jpg

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure, have fun with my forest lot

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

> Also, polls are brilliant, the recently-completed examination of all the NOW albums was a great view into how different people viewed different pop eras.

i'm with emsk. polls just solicit yes / no answers whereas the discussion / reasons are always more interesting than just the stats. (maybe there is a way of commenting as you click, i dunno)

um, is it too cold to go sit in the park and read this lunchtime? sun is very in and out today. yesterday i spent more time watching the dragonfly than reading but, hey, gets me out of the office, if only for 20 minutes.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

I like polls.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

Also, polls are brilliant, the recently-completed examination of all the NOW albums was a great view into how different people viewed different pop eras.

i was going to reply and say pretty much this:

i'm with emsk. polls just solicit yes / no answers whereas the discussion / reasons are always more interesting than just the stats. (maybe there is a way of commenting as you click, i dunno)

there is a comments system but i don't get why it's better to poll than to just talk about it, esp if what you want is an insight into how different people viewed different pop eras rather than some poll results.

xpost i quite like doing polls and filling stuff in, but they seem to do it a *lot* over there.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.abc.net.au/football/galleries/2004-05/epl20050206/images/07.jpg

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

WARNING, COUP IN PROGRESS.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

grr, xpost. (don't call me away from my desk when i'm writing, pls)

The point, I think, is that the polls are an organized way of stimulating discussion, and not just a way of coming up with a "top ten whatever." As koogy says, it's the discussion about the poll that's interesting.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

(btw mitya, i did kinda answer this but i think it got lost at the end of a thread, yes that is me with the sarah records page (the clue is in my email address!). haven't touched it since 1999 though)

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

polls just solicit yes / no answers

Yes, if the ILM/ILE polls have taught us anything, it's that polls are recieved in an atmosphere of sterile binaries.

Polls can highlight things that you might have assumed that aren't true, EG "WTF why is The Killers beating Ciara? Do you people have cloth for ears?" which can be useful to examine why some songs mean so much to you and how you differ from popular opinion (then and now).

It is a pop rather than indie thing (the group is called 'poptimists'), in that you have to be interested in whether a lot of people liked this song and why as much as whether and why you did.

xpost i quite like doing polls and filling stuff in, but they seem to do it a *lot* over there.

They're sort of a perpetual motion machine in that they're not much effort for everyone to fill in, and in return you get a lot of material for discussion.

Also most of them are Tom, he's always loved this taking the 'consensus view' (after the NOW polls he's doing the Pazz and Jop ones) and your personal views and those of you 'peers' and banging them up against each other and photoing the sparks.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

It is a pop rather than indie thing

come off it

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

ah emma you are in here! did you get my email re living room gig?

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

So, DG, why exactly did you come back? You were a king-in-exile while you were gone, and you just seem to be a pissy mood every day since you started again.

Also, what part of the sentence did you not like?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

i'm always been in a pissy mood! 2001 ILX was just more polite

i think the idea that obsessive cataloguing is a pop rather than an indie thing is a tad fanciful

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

lex yes i did! and i have asked the band and no conclusion is forthcoming. anna is out of the country til the end of the week. sorry, i did mean to get back to you.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's a *man* thing.

(xpost)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

DG is Rassilon.

x-posts

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

mind you not as fanciful as the idea of me being a king-in-exile!

isn't kate rassilon?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure cataloguing has much to do with it, no-one's putting up "my 100 best tracks of all time" lists, which is I think a big difference. You can still see everyone's ballot unless the person making the poll has specifically turned it off, but in general the individual votes aren't of interest unless brought up by the individual.

Though of course many of those involved have a 'past' of indie 'shame'.

Actually would you consider Popular to be indie or pop?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

> WTF why is The Killers beating Ciara? Do you people have cloth for ears?

so, all the hard hitting questions of the day then... 8)

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Actually would you consider Popular to be indie or pop?

indie, you've got to take it all rather seriously to bother with all that let's face it

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

So you can't take pop seriously? Are you sure you're from round here?

xpost - Dude did you read what I said? That's the start rather than the end of the discussion.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

So you can't take pop seriously?

i didn't say that

i think what i mean is basically

ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Newton-WilliamBlake.jpg

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

lex yes i did! and i have asked the band and no conclusion is forthcoming. anna is out of the country til the end of the week. sorry, i did mean to get back to you.

ah ok - next week will be difficult for us obv what with moving out and so on...

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Kate was omega?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Will I get into trouble if I ask what is everyone elses (in the watercooler) Dr Who character and get pointed to one of the many dr who threads?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Something about LJ happened.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ned what is your Dr Who character?!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

what does that even mean?

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

what kit said.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

i always know something's wrong the world when people start agreeing with me.

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ned what is your Dr Who character?!

I can't say I've been waiting for this question all my life.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Is there any Dr Who character that you like in particular or one that is like you in anyway or you would want to play? I'm crap at explaining things.

Or just forget I ever said anything and never mention anything again about it beyond this point. (and no need to quote what I said and make a comment)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

How is everyone today?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

i'm in a pissy mood

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Bored and tired now, I take this to be temporary, happy and bouncy this morning.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I approve of the introduction of disguised polls into the Watercooler.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

it's pop

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

shh, you, meta is never betta

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c346/Fwit/lolowlWinCE.jpg

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

pretty much the only Doctor Who character i know is Doctor Who. i remember that Dalek guy with his lid off, but i can't remember his name. and the girl called Ace, i remember her, because when i was wee i fancied her cos she was a kids TV presenter.

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

There is always The Master. Or The Cybermen. Or K-9...

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

is indie-pop indie or pop?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

So, DG, why exactly did you come back? You were a king-in-exile while you were gone, and you just seem to be a pissy mood every day since you started again

Yeah, shiny happy people dispensing hugglez all round only on ILX please. That'll help generate discussions of stuff.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Careful ailsa, you wouldn't want to be thought of as "utterly bitchy". Again.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

i thought we were all banned from this thread?

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oi, cowpat, I'm not the one casting aspersions on people's right to be here and express opinions! Free expression for all and that! Democracy for ILX!

(btw, before someone else casts it up, yes I am very aware of the ironing in grumping about potentially interesting topics of discussion being dragged into a hugglez thread with, and doing so, erm, here)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

lol i agree with whoever is right

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the left are all sissies

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps they are 'rockists'

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

remember that Dalek guy with his lid off, but i can't remember his name.

Davros.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

played by Harry Enfield, amirite?

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised that Louis is a left-wing lover of Islam.

I would defend ailsa on the utterly bitchy point but she's docking me points on a Thread That Dare Not Speak Its Name. So utterly bitchy it is.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised that Louis is a ~~left-wing~~ long haired lover ~~of Islam~~ from Liverpool.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

if only. the long hair is the only accurate part of that sentence. :(

Why are you surprised, Onimo? Does a privileged education automatically mean a harsh, libertarian view of the world? Because that is what I ain't about, matey.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm wrong. You're a socialist Muslim lover. Carry on.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't say 'Muslim lover'. I love who I want to love, depending upon whether they are lovable. Such trifling issues as religious faith don't come into it.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Does a privileged education automatically mean a harsh, libertarian view of the world? Because that is what I ain't about, matey.

Plz to explain "privileged" in this context? You suggesting it's a PRIVILEGE to opt out of the state system (I presume you're talking public v state schools)? Have you made some sort of study as to the educational background of others on ILX?

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Presumably it's a privilege to be able to opt out.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 21 September 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

That doesn't make your *education* privileged though.

(sorry, I am being pedantic, I know, but Louis is pulling the "ooh, look at me I went to a posh school thing". So, fwiw, did I. I don't feel even remotely advantaged or privileged as a result)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ditto, the automatic sense of entitlement private education generates is one of the reasons I always felt, at the least, uneasy within the system.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

Morning.

Anyone else getting some weirdness with the New Answers page? (i.e., you post to a thread, and it takes a while to show up at the top?)

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think its one of the optimisations that has happened. Instead of recompiling new answers every time someone hits the page, it caches a copy of new answers for a minute or so.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ah. I suppose that's a good thing, then.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

ha by ILX standards i am a prole and i went to a grammar school!

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

ilx has standards?

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

wot someone lost teh ISO9000 certificate?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I am on holiday until Tuesday! Glasgow September weekend holiday, I love you. (also props to the boss who said we could just have this afternoon off too since it's a holiday weekend)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

woo

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

yowsa! and if yr weather is anything like it is down here (i realise the two are almost completely unconnected) you're in for a lovely weekend of beer gardens. hurrah!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Actually it would be better if I got paid BEFORE the holiday weekend rather than after it, but, hey, it's still not going into work, which can only be a good thing.

xpost - the sun just came out as I left work!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Weather is gorgeous down here indeed.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not too bad here either for september.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 21 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hot and humid, so I'm stinking, str8 in the shower when I get home. I've got fuck all done, next to no trade, shit, shit day.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

my afternoon was fun

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

That doesn't make your *education* privileged though.
(sorry, I am being pedantic, I know, but Louis is pulling the "ooh, look at me I went to a posh school thing". So, fwiw, did I. I don't feel even remotely advantaged or privileged as a result)

-- ailsa (ailsa.watso...), September 21st, 2006.

I wasn't attempting any sort of social one-upmanship, and, in fact, am completely against the idea of doing so. My reason for mentioning it was simply that I thought it may have been one of the contributory factors for Onimo assuming I was a right-winger, it being one of the few personal details I've already divulged here (and even then only when I was asked). However, I do regard it as a privilege. I'm the first in my family to have ever seen such an education and to have been taught in such a way. I genuinely enjoyed my time at school (and so far at university), and am grateful to have been given the chance to realise whatever academic potential I have. This is not a chance every child gets. I'm not one of those who thinks they have a divine right to the best education in the land, whose ancestors have attended the same Oxbridge college for the past fifteen generations, I've been thrown in from a lower-middle class background (not that class should have ANYTHING to do with this argument) and have found independent schooling (or, what independent schooling I have experienced, like state schooling it varies hugely from place to place) to my taste.

What I don't do, though, is take open and unprovoked pride in 'not having gone to a state school'. And as for the educational backgrounds of those others on ILX, I couldn't to be honest give a toss, which takes me onto my final point: I really don't give a damn WHERE you went to school, as long as you fulfilled yourself, had a good time, and are now a person with whom I can interact freely, interestingly, and pleasantly. I've met people like this from ALL strata of society. The very thought of me pulling such a stunt is one that absolutely mortifies me.

― louis de montfort peppershot-vair alfredericke bechamel jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

You jumped on Onimo, assuming that his assumption about your politics stemmed from your education and not from anything else he might have deduced from your posting on ILX (you don't need to post personal details to get a flavour of where you're coming from, believe me). I would take from that that you're assuming he was not "privileged" enough to have an education like yours, or else why would you take issue with him over it? There's got to be some sort of reasoning as to why you wave the education stick, yes?

On a separate tack, you're absolutely spot on about not every child getting the chance to fulfil their academic potential. I had the will to live slowly sucked from me over six years whilst allegedly being "privileged" enough to go to one of these marvellous schools. I was also the first person in my family to get so much as a Higher, let alone go to university, but it makes no difference whatsoever to any argument I have about anything on ILX. You're among a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds - cultural, class, educational etc - here, so I don't think there's anything unique about your background that's worth brandishing about to win an argument that has bugger all to do with your education.

One's divine right to education should stem from, well, living in a country that's supposed to have an education system that works for all. Not that we've got that, hence why people opt out of it into the alternative, which isn't always the answer. Anyway, we've done this to death elsewhere, I've talked about it at length before.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I would take from that that you're assuming he was not "privileged" enough to have an education like yours, or else why would you take issue with him over it? There's got to be some sort of reasoning as to why you wave the education stick, yes?

Incorrect. I don't know how you came up with that logical leap. I was merely wondering why he'd think I was right-wing, and seeing as many of the people I do know from independent schooling are indeed pretty right-wing, it wouldn't have been the worst assumption for him to make. I was only trying to see things from his angle, not once, and I mean once, did I consider what sort of an education he'd had.

You're among a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds - cultural, class, educational etc - here

As I've acknowledged, but I really don't mind where they're from.

so I don't think there's anything unique about your background that's worth brandishing about to win an argument that has bugger all to do with your education.

When did I claim it was unique? Only within the context of my own family, that's where, and you're the one who brought ILX into it. Moreover, the argument I'm trying to win is whether I played the 'ooh, i went to a posh school go me' card, which a) I most certainly wasn't and b) has quite a lot to do with my education, being about it and all.

Plus, don't assume your experience of independent schooling is the universal one. I don't for mine, I'm just grateful that it turned out ok.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across at all snooty or up-tight, it really isn't the intention (quite the opposite, in fact)!

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I WILL ADMIT perhaps that I should have said 'public schooled education' rather than 'privileged education', by your logic it being perfectly feasible that one can have a privileged state school education if it benefits you socially and academically to your full potential. I'll admit I made an error there, my confusion being caused by my education being both privileged and private. I am sorry for that. But it was an error of definition, my meanings throughout have been from the heart and forthright.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right, so it's OK for you to make assumptions about (1) the way Onimo's mind works and (2) how some people you know are all right-wing therefore that's what lots of people think about lots of other people of a certain educational background and (3) that Onimo's actually read all your posts and knows the intricacies of your educational history. Yet somehow I get to put a counterpoint based on my personal experience and not extrapolating to anyone else at all anywhere, and *I'm* the one being warned about assuming my experience is universal?!?!

so I don't think there's anything unique about your background that's worth brandishing about to win an argument that has bugger all to do with your education

You're using it to claim that Onimo's got you pegged as a right-winger, when it could well be anything else you've posted here over the last few weeks that's led him to think this. I don't know, I don't pay that much attention to a lot of your posts and I certainly have no idea what led Onimo to think that. But you assumed it was due to your "privileged" education, so you're assuming one-up-man-ship right there. He might have gone to the same bloody school as you for all you know.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've admitted my error in terminology already. I assumed it was due to my "privileged", or should I say "public school" (which just so happened to be extremely privileged) education, yes, because a couple of times here I've been asked what school/uni I went/go to, and have received some ACTUAL chip-on-shoulder one-upmanship ABUSE from other posters as a result of it. Yes, that's right, people HAVE noted my education and have expressed their BIASES about it already. Not that I'm one to tar Onimo with that brush, but it occurred to me that he MIGHT have noted this information and come to his conclusion on its at least partial basis. I can't think of anything else I've said here that makes me out to seem right-wing, even with grotesque stereotypes applied.

Yet somehow I get to put a counterpoint based on my personal experience and not extrapolating to anyone else at all anywhere, and *I'm* the one being warned about assuming my experience is universal?!?!

OK, what I said about that may have been as the result of my increasing ire. I retract it. Neither of us were assuming our experiences to be universal, bt both of us have argued very much from our own perspective, with errors, I feel, committed on both sides as a result (mine being that of using the word "privileged" in my original post).

And he might have gone to the same school. I don't know. I don't even want to know.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Haha this thread.

LJ said: For some reason they all think I'm a right-wing hater of Islam. Which couldn't be more insulting, or further from the truth.

I made a crap gag on him therefore being a left-wing muslim lover (see "further from the truth")

and now this shit. Holy fuck people. Here's a couple of points for you to ponder while you're both deciding whatever the fuck you think I think. Where in the fuck did I mention LJ's education? Where in the fuck did I say he was right wing?

Some people really need to not react to every single fucking thing ever.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 September 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

^ lesson of the day ^

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

ok, I made a crappy assumption based upon my literal interpretation of your entirely un-literal post. but how was I to know whether you meant it or not?

plus, my reply was intended as a throwaway comment, which Ailsa took great umbrage with herself, further perpetuating the mess.

the blame lies entirely with the Internet.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

ailsa takes umbrage at everything

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

ailsa takes umbrage at everything

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised

These were the words that did it, Onimo.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

bad words!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Where in the fuck did I mention LJ's education?

You didn't, which is why I'm calling LJ out on his paranoia and extrapolation of your lame gag to mean "oh noes, you resent my ultra-privileged super-schooling!"

xpost (taking umbrage is what I'm good at, especially when people talk shite about education)

xxpost - as people have noticed. DG on the other hand is always calm and reasonable.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

See what happens when Kate goes away. Watercooler goes to pieces.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

"goes"

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

It wasn't fully-fledged paranoia, just enough paranoia to think he was being serious. With an assumption about how he reached his own assumption thrown in. Although as it turns out he didn't make an assumption, which paints me in an unfairly bad light. All I did was misinterpret a joke... :(

And where have I talked genuine shite about education? I'd say most of what I've said on that topic has made very good sense. I'm not trying to confront you, I'm genuinely asking where I went wrong. Sorry if I've caused any upset, again.

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bjacked.net/LuvToHunt/forums/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album01/Beat_Dead_Horse.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

*generally* when people talk shite about education, it pisses me off. Not just you specifically. OK? However, you muttering about privileges and how going to a private school means you have a better opportunity than anyone else in your family just gets my goat because it's not all wonderful ivory towers of intelligentsia and academia. I'm not saying you're right or wrong or that I'm right or wrong. I just think it's a weird and random thing to bring up in the first place, for all sorts of reasons. And you're not the only person I've said this to.

(Onimo, you'll note I didn't assume any reasoning whatsoever behind your posting, my only issue was with Louis' slightly bizarre reaction)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

(so can I have still have a lift on Saturday please?)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, your lasagne was a hit with the kids so you're still on my list.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yay for Garfield!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

xposts: Fair enough.

All I've been trying to do since your first post on the issue, Ailsa, was refute any allegations of namedropping my private education for the purposes of appearing better. OF COURSE there are differences within the system, as I've said numerous times. It was silly of me to bring it up, but then again this entire conversation has been one long slow journey into madness. I need saving from myself sometimes.

Pax?

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but you kept refuting it with sillier and sillier arguments about the rest of your family's education as well.

Let us never speak of it again (until you say something else silly that annoys me when I'm bored)!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

There should be some sort of ILX equation centred around silliness, boredom, guilt and assumption.

Bx(S+A)=G

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

don't encourage autistic ILE anymore pls

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Thursday, 21 September 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, all.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

hello, this best man's speech is giving me trouble. I don't think I do jokes. I could always break out kate's rabbit joke but it always goes so much worse when I tell it.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

You are doing an awful lot of weddings this summer, Ed.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

4 this year. I think I have 2 already for next year.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Islam limited you to four wives!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, please to text me number of Disco Dentist. Woke up this morning, had cup of tea, felt something 'foreign' rolling around in mouth and BEHOLD it was porcelain and shaped like a bit of tooth. Argh.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

Morning people!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:36 (nineteen years ago)

Happy World Carfree Day everyone! I might go to see some bicycle ballet this afternoon, whatever that is.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you had wonderful NHS dentistry.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is it car-free day today? Cool, I might take the bus into town to go shopping instead and then I can go for a PINT as well. Hurrah!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

It's World Carfree Day? Oh, well, I'll only be driving about 100 miles or so today. On my own.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

Boo, FP, boo!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

i never heard of no car-free day before! i drove to work.
i know how to get out of this sticky situation: pretend i misread it!

so, it's carefree day? big deal, you bunch of twats.

― i am faek_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.
g-kit you will have to atone by leaving your car at work and walking home tonight.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

that wouldn't be so bad, i love a long walk. but considering the location of where i work, it would almost certainly mean buying a new car tomorrow.

― i am faek_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

if only tomorrow were free car today, you'd be set.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have to drive today and kit's already nicked my "carefree" misreading idea. Bothered.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 22 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps you could compensate by not driving tomorrow and going to the pub instead?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 22 September 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, NHS dentistry may not cover expensive porcelain tooth doo-dahs. My other friend who uses the Disco Dentist has furnished said number.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

I texted it to you this morning

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

i am fast liek cat, O.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

A FAECAL KIT, MOIST.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

COWPAT_ALDO

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

vroom vroom

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

A CAKE FAILS IT. OTM.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

law_catpood

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

you have more letters, it's not fair.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

There's a car parked outside my house just now with a "Status Quo" sunstrip along the windscreen (you know, those things that usually have "Gaz and Shaz" or whatever). Unsurprisingly, the bloke walking away from it earlier was a skinny bloke in his fifties wearing stonewashed jeans and sporting a long straggly ponytail protruding from a baseball cap.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

but did you get his autograph?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Do you have a Les Battersby lookalike neighbour?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, I have a Francis Rossi lookalike neighbour. Do keep up!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

No forthcoming punch up then.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Morning (for me). Up and down week but mostly up at this point. Tonight -- ice cream social!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds very 50s, like a weiner roast or other wholesome activity you might take your chaste girl to.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hello Ned!

I have pr0gressive 3ars board open in another tab. I have just watched a g0nd0l/-\ b0b post get shitcanned by a moderator right before my very eyes.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahah.

Ed -- it's someone's birthday party and she's calling it that. Sounds about right.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I almost have the september comp done, who wants one?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 22 September 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hello London. I need 240 quid by friday. Dirty deeds done dirt cheap!

― dave q (listerine), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Edward, I'd love to be put down for a copy.

― g00blar (gooblar), Saturday, 23 September 2006 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Still need to work out 20 minutes but I have ideas.

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 23 September 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

God, WTF? I go away for a week, and this is what the Watercooler descends into? It's enough to make me wanna go back to the Isle of Wight and ditch my internet connection.

Maybe I should just go away and make another thread of mine own. Or better yet, a board of mine own. If you don't like the rules of *MY* thread, go get your own.

And I'm going to talk about menstration all I like. You know what hell is? Hell is getting your period in an ALL WHITE HOUSE. What sort of mentalist (sorry, Ed) has a holiday cottage with a decorating scheme of all white? When there's SAND and MUD and SAILING MUCK and HORSESHIT and all sorts of other lovely dirt from lovely holiday activities.

I love the Isle of White. Well, at least the Western tip. (The Eastern tip is like a shoddy version of Brighton without the hipsters.) I want to move to Yarmouth and sit in the pub and watch the sailboats go by and walk by the seashore every darn day.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I hope you had a nice holiday, nevertheless.

The board in general has seemed somewhat grumpy over the last week.

(many, many thanks for those links you sent me, btw)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

what about the southern tip? I quite like that. Blackgang Chine - a very British kind of theme park! With dinosaurs! That white lighthouse.

The Smugglers Museum in Ventnor is cool too.

But yes, Yarmouth is great. And The Needles, ahem, rock!

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

yes, I liked Ventnor, too, but not as much as I liked it last time.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Did you listen to TSM all week?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I went on a school trip in 1982 and didn't go back until 2003 and was amazed how small everything was. It was in fact not so dissimilar to the experience of going back to yr primary school years after you leave and discovering that hall you thought was huge is actually tiny.

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Kate! Thanks for indirectly furnishing my team with a correct answer in a Nerdy Math Quiz this week! We were asked: "Name one of the two Japanese mathematicians who demonstrated the connection between elliptical curves and modular forms"! :D

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 23 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should just go away and make another thread of mine own. Or better yet, a board of mine own. If you don't like the rules of *MY* thread, go get your own

I thought that's what this was for? - Why are people so stupid?

And I think you are really missing the point of a PUBLIC message board.

Where on earth does one participate in a Nerdy Math Quiz? And, erm, why?

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should just go away and make another thread of mine own. Or better yet, a board of mine own. If you don't like the rules of *MY* thread, go get your own

I thought that's what this was for? - http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newanswers.php?board=15

And I think you are really missing the point of a PUBLIC message board.

Where on earth does one participate in a Nerdy Math Quiz? And, erm, why?

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

(oops, sorry about that. Thought I'd stopped the first one with the incorrect link, but apparently not)

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Where on earth does one participate in a Nerdy Math Quiz? And, erm, why?

Haha good question. The pub quiz phenomenon has taken off in quite a big way over here (Norway) the last eight years or so. A couple of years ago, a few of the more frequent players (incl me) heard about the existence of European Quizzing Championships, contacted the relevant people, and went to Belgium to play. We were quite knocked out (figuratively and, uh, of the competition) by the insane quizzing skillZ0r of the Brits, Belgians, Estonians etc, and by the high level (in difficulty and quality) of the questions. (BTW the questions for the individual competition of EQC2004 are here in Word format.)

Once we were home and our bruises were healed, however, we found we had had Great Fun, and wanted more of this kind of thing. Your regular pub quiz was no longer enough, with its partial emphasis on news, TV etc. Obviously no such quiz existed here at that point, so we decided to make it ourselves, for fun and as training, and it still runs every other week, with between six and twenty hardcore quizzers showing up each time, and people taking turns to set questions. Sometimes it's general knowledge and sometimes themed quizzes -- the 25-question math quiz was accompanied by similar rounds on Spain, classical music and, erm, questions whose answers start with a P.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Sunday, 24 September 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds brilliant. We are going to a pub quiz tonight for the first time in ages.

That quiz you linked to is insanely difficult!

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hello.

I've just been dumped.

Blah blah blah everything sucks blah blah going to be single forever blah blah blah may as well kill myself blah blah.

There, I don't need to post anything else on ILX for the next month now, the above should cover it.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck. That sucks. Sorry.

― g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

It was obviously not meant to be. Hang in there. Remember all the good advice you were given the last time you felt bad, and stick by that again.

Being suddenly single again is not the end of the world, even if it feels like it sometime.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. Thanks, ailsa.

What really sucks is living here, with my nearest friends fifty miles away, and not having any shoulders to cry on.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

You have virtual shoulders to cry on here. Don't underestimate the power of random interweb mentalists as a support network!

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, thanks! I wuv random interweb mentalists, as you well know!

Posting about it on ILX would feel a bit weird, though - the whole "preserved forever" aspect wouldn't be good.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

What about posting in code?

― g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, that would just be silly.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

*trying to figure out what that's code for*

― g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Watch something silly on the telly. Read the random YouTube shit thread and roffle at the gross stupidity of the human race. Listen to some music. Eat food that's bad for you. DO NOT GO NEAR A TELEPHONE, this is a whole world of pain when you have been dumped. Listen to silly twee music. Dance around your bedroom pretending to be a pop star. Don't post about it on ILX. It doesn't sodding matter. It is NOT WORTH IT. Every single person here has been dumped. We're all still surviving. You will too.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

We had three main disagreements:

1) She has only been out of a long-term relationship for one month when we got together - she wants some time to herself
2) She thinks that I'm better suited to someone quiet and shy like myself. I think that's bollocks, but there you go.
3) More than anything else, she loves to get people to carve patterns into her back with sharp knives. It turns my stomach.

xpost oh well I've posted about it now.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

1) that's fair enough. Did you know this at the time?
2) sounds like an excuse to justify #1.
3) Erk. TMI!!!

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

1) Yes, I did.
2) Mmm, you're probably right, but it's the second person in a row I've been out with who has said that.
3) Well, come on, this is *me* talking ;-)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry to hear that, Forest.

Had a blast at the wedding yesterday. Going through the photos, I gave my camera to a friend of my sister and she shot 1.5Gig of photos.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing that this person has less of a need to be in a relationship than you right now. She's tried it on for size, it doesn't suit her. That's not a reflection on you, at all.

It feels like shite, I know. I've been there. I've despaired that I'd ever find anyone else. I lost what I thought was the love of my life through my own stupidity, before finding someone better and realising that I wasted time grieving the end of what wasn't the best relationship ever, just the best one I'd had thus far. This one just wasn't for you. Remember that. Allow yourself to grieve the end of a relationship, by all means, but don't let it grow out of proportion. It's better to be in no relationship that the wrong relationship, even if it doesn't seem it at the time.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, number three, erm.

Sorry to hear it, Forest.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ed: How many's that? A couple of hundred or so?

Thanks, Ailsa, I know you're right really. I just don't like the look of the Desolate Singledom Wasteland, because i've spent far too long there in the past.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

That was number four (and last this year), I think I have two already for next year.

Forest, are you any nearer to upping sticks and moving?

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

No, Ed. I had firm plans, but cancelled them partly because of this relationship that's just ended.

In any case, I'm unsure about it now for other reasons - I do have some good friends within travelling distance of here, in Yorkshire and in Leicester, just not nearby.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, and you're still here. We've all done it. It's not easy, but it's a necessary life skill.

I'm just re-reading the thread where we all gave you advice the last time. Coping with solitude. I'm glad you listened. The advice still remains true. I think you've moved on from that time, well I hope so. Stay strong. Stuff turned around for you, it will again.

(xxpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Lol I really have posted about this sort of crap a lot!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

(I had forgotten completely that that thread existed)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

But people are happy to talk about it and talking about it makes it easier.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

My poor liver, the last three weekends have been heavy

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

talking about it makes it easier.

Why do you think I'm here? ;-)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

You're here because you know you will get sensible advice from people. I'm afraid I'm going out shortly, but you WILL be fine. Ed's here, there are other people around. Post on a thread you wouldn't normally post on. Befriend the sheepfuxxors and mongrels (but don't talk about being dumped). Do something fun. Silly. Cheer yourself up. Click the random button a few times and you will find something to make you laugh/think/be glad you're you.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hope so. You know what my self-esteem levels can be like, though.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Marvel I my wonderful wedding suit;-) Twee rocks, and I want to slim down so I can try and find the cheap version of the price of wales check suit my dad was wearing.

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

FP, yes, I do know. I've been there myself, I've told you, hell, I've told the whole of ILX plus any random googlers. What I'm also saying is that it's temporary. You know that yourself, deep down. Just hang in through the shit bits, make them less shit in whatever way you can, and the good bits will come back round again shortly.

Right, I'm offski. Look after yourself, please :-)

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hopefully it will be temporary. I'm getting better. Since I started that solitude thread, I've had three things that were vaguely relationship-like. One was a one-night stand, the second lasted a week; this has lasted just over a month.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

We won the pub quiz. Only thing we got wrong in the picture round was failing to recognise Samantha Mumba, whose existence I had completely forgotten until they gave the answers (I thought she was Javine).

FP, you have support and friends. Don't ever forget that. Friends matter more than transient relationships.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 24 September 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there. Going to get my car serviced this morning, which means a couple of hours sitting around in a garage waiting area going "bah"

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

take a book.

I have started my new regime. I just cycled up highgate hill and back.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'll take this morning's Guardian and several books.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

I envy the time. my current book is very interesting but not getting read fast enough.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

I have two books going at the moment: Beyond Black by Hilary Mantel (first read), and Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson (nth read)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all. Sorry about your news, FP.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

You have reminded me that I want to read beyond black, however I am forbidden from goin gon amazon or near bookshops at the moment. I probably have an aggregate of 15,000 unread pages at the moment.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm reading the Diarmid McCulloch Reformation history, as recommende on the Olly Cromwell thread. Fascinating.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also on a self-imposed bookshop ban for similar reasons.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've found that if I don't read the book while I'm still basking in the initial glow of the purchase, it doesn't get read at all. So now I buy with great care (which has the actual effect of making me read more magazines and fewer books).

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all, how was everyone's weekend?

Had the first gig with the new band on saturday; it was sweet. No one showed up to the gig (we only agreed to do it three days prior), but omg playing with a band is so much better than playing on my own. Everything sounded so good! I get to hear songs that have been fleshed out in my head for ages come to life, and it's through other people who want to bring them to life that they do so. Or something. Anyway, I'm pretty excited.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, never been there so can't comment on the decor but I'm sure that its estate agent specified. The place is one of those invest type property schemes, we guarantee you 5% return on investment over 5 years type deals.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, everyone!

Bah, back at work - but the system is down so I can't work anyway.

Sorry to hear that, FP. Got some horrible crap happening in my emotional life, but this isn't really the place for it, but I sure can commiserate.

I, too am on a health kick, Ed! I've been getting up early and walking up hills for half an hour before showering. I was embarrassed by how easily I got out of breath walking up downs on the Isle of Wight. I have, however, lost nearly half a stone in the past two weeks. Not that you can tell, mind you...

Oh yes. I have ponies for you. Can I drop them off after work tonight?

Sorry, I missed your gig, G00blar, glad to hear you had a good time, though.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes you can drop off ponies, I'll be in, recouperating

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

Got a myspace friend request from some entity named "baron fingercheese", wtf (?!?!) only 47 "friends", not 5421982, so not a FREND KOLLEKTUR, but I recognise no-one on their list (though note slightly greater than average # of dommes) Somewhat dubious - that name, yeesh!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, Come barn dancing on sunday sure fire way to loose more weight, maybe all in sweat.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Your liver must hate you. Do a detox! I feel marvellous!

(OK, I had quite a few pints of real ale on the IoW, but that doesn't count as I walked it off.)

Ooh, Barn Dancing! yes, that sounds wonderful. Are you still up for John and Jon tomorrow?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

Or come to my next gig on Saturday at the H&A! (not sure if this is an xpost or not)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

Its on Wednesday, but, yes i am still up for it.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. Definitely an xpost now.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm unfortunately in Bristol on saturday, but I'd like to see you plus band when you come round again.

(come out on wednesday or saturday why don't you?)

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Real Ale = Health food drink

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, what's this John and Jon on Wednesday?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

Britain's Best folk duo, the support is Bishi and there is an open mic bit as well.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

God, I go on holiday and I don't know what day it is any more.

My eye is twitching, too, which is slightly annoying.

I barely listened to any music on the IoW, but I wrote three songs. I should upload them to the MySpace or something. Or WhyEssAi them. One of them is quite scary how much I've ripped off TSM. But, eh, people will still say it sounds like the P1pp3tt3$ or something. Hah.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

My eye has been twitching all weekend too, as has my girlfriends! Odd!

Have finally capitulated and got a myspace page for the band.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oi tissp I was hoping someone out there had a backbone.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

I know.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

So is anyone out there thinking about flying to Iceland for this Sugarcubes reunion in November?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, TISSP! is back! Hurrah!

I've uploaded the new songs to my own MySpace. (one of us, one of us).

I thought I saw you asking to be my friend, mwah hah ha.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

Resist, TISSP! Be the only one on myspace with NO friends!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone is Tom's "friend", though.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

i deleted the bugger

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

;_; DG. I shall have to console myself by counting all the money rupert murdoch gave me.

― Tom, everybody(except DG) s friend (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, the only thing better than TSM is TSM with BEARDS. And bunches. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

http://scenestars.net/DSC00075.JPG

Our system still isn't working. Not sure what I'm supposed to be doing still...

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and speaking of MySpace, it's finally uploaded my new songs (well, the two that I finished) onto mine own Space.

Bloody thing isn't working, when we're trying to confirm a gig... argh! Is *anything* working today?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hello there. Back from getting the car serviced. Still feeling crap, natch.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, sorry you're feeling crap. But at least your car is running well, I hope?

My dad keeps sending me weird links. We're on the radio in Texas, and Germany. Hrmmmmmmmm.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently it all works, which has to be a good thing. £160 to be told that, though.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

Deleting Tom was one of the first things I did, too. I need to send out lots of myspace whoring requests now. Maybe.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

send here:
http://www.myspace.com/vietgrove

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hi there. FP, I feel for you - but better now than after you've become used to them, especially if it wasn't going to work. The one thing I always remind myself (and others) is that every day, things get a little bit better.

Also, don't forget that in recent months you've gained a lot of confidence, you're looking HOTT and you get girls (and boys? I forget) to cop off with you. This is all good :)

If you haven't done it already, go to Hey ILX, have fun with this little sledding guy and spend the next 18 solid hours perfecting your course. IT's the most addictive (and distracting) thing ever).

Oh, and "Beyond Black" is excellent.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

Josh Garza looks like he's about to go hill-walking in that picture. And the dude in the middle (Brandon?) is, to me at least, ever so slightly effeminate. They seem a pretty safe bunch though!

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's *ages* since I've copped off with a boy, and the total number of people I've copped off with ever is still in single digits. And i'm not hott, either!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

I will send you a request as soon as Myspace stops being broken, Pash!

(Stupid fucking myspace)

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

I love hill-walking. Spend much of my holiday doing just that. Josh Garza is welcome to join the London Psychogeographical Rambling Society any time he likes!

Brandon has breasts and bunches and a beer belly. He is clearly trying to be me. :-P He's trying to distract me from how much I love his brother, but he never shall.

x=post, FP, you are hott. I've seen your arse. Hott.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Clarification: you've seen a *photo* of my arse!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

The one thing I always remind myself (and others) is that every day, things get a little bit better.

OTM.

I love teaching sonnets. You can spend so much time talking about the (almost) wholly technical and easy stuff like rhyme scheme and meter that you barely have time (and pressure) to work out deep interpretations. The lesson plan writes itself! And my students seem to love them.

Tissp!: MyMyMyspace (the last 'my' is a typo).

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Them's some nice tunes, g00blar. Again I will send you a request when myspace stops being in a state of BROKENNESS!

(Does it do this a lot?)

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

The one thing I always remind myself (and others) is that every day, things get a little bit better.

OTM.

I wish it were true, but I can't see it as being so.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Select" magazine, January 1995 issue:

"And let's face it - no-one we know is on the internet. It's so clearly the CB radio of the '90s that you should expect that chart-smashing Dave Lee Travis novelty single to be coming your way soon".

Har har har.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

Who's that quote from?

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

The one thing I always remind myself (and others) is that every day, things get a little bit better.

This is, in fact, true. Except for those days when things get a little bit worse. I think that great philosopher, Ronan Keating, said it best when he sang, "Life is a roller-coaster." (Or was that Guy Chambers?)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Tom Cochrane, I think.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Mick Hucknall? No, wait, that was a fairground. Never mind.

Am back, Andrew and I have been duly stuffed with pizza and now the system is back up. Bah. Means I might have to work this afternoon. And I was looking forward to snoozing the pizza off.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, pizza

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm pizza, we could porchetta before folk on wednesday.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, now I'm back in the office, I really want to start banging my head against the desk or something. I really really wish I wasn't here. I really really wish I could just go unconscious for a couple of months until it's all worn off.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Porchetta twice in one week? Ambassador, you are spoiling us!

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

The internet quote is from Select's review of the year 1994, unfortunately, the writer is not credited.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha, yes, he's out on the South Bank now with Dick Rowe, still kicking himself to death.

Tee hee, I've just had my first email from The Hunt. Damn! Their next meet is the day of the Bluewater FAP. What do I do? especially considering I thought I was going to Essex but now it appears to be in Kent. I hate Kent!

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assigning my students their first essay tomorrow. It'll be a close reading (or 'critical commentary') of a poem. I'm gonna give each of them a choice of three poems. I'm thinking Yeats's "The Second Coming" and Donne's "Death be not proud...", although I'm unsure about the latter because they may have done it already in high school.

The idea is to take apart a poem, to analyze it without any recourse to any other sources. Anyone have any suggestions for poems?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Come friendly bombs" :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was given The Wild Swans at Coole in a similar exercise for my first undergrad essay. I think The Second Coming is a better choice though. (But maybe I'm biased because I was hella hungover during the Wild Swans... seminar and had to leave abruptly to be sick.)

To His Coy Mistress is quite a fun close reading one too.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I love "To His Coy Mistress", but we're doing it later in the term..

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Bluewater FAP >>>> everything tbh

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but will there be meng as hotttt as this at Bluewater:

http://static.flickr.com/85/246352631_8148c59e3a.jpg

I wish I knew more about poetry. I tend to just like rockist crap like Emily Dickinson and Keats and stuff.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Been in and out of the office all afternoon. Keep going over and over the weekend's events in my head, wondering if I could ever have made it turn out differently, or if I could mend things somehow.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

i went to a POETRY NIGHT in ESSEX last night.
plus, i can be hott, if you don't look at me or listen to me or stand near me. or know me. or talk to me.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, busy morning. Hello all:

I'm reading the Diarmid McCulloch Reformation history, as recommende on the Olly Cromwell thread. Fascinating.

It is something, isn't it? I think I might actually buy it. (The advantages of working at a huge library are SO clear for a bibliophile...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

you never know, things may be different 6 months down the line, you may both be in different positions.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Marvell >>>>>>>>> Donne

Keats and Wordsworth (before he conformed and LOST IT) are the greatest, don't diss. Keats was the Hendrix, Wordsworth the Pink Floyd of their generation. This analogy is surprisingly awesome, in fact. :-)

(Robert Browning was the King Crimson, although he came a little later on)

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I like Keats! But I'm aware that both he and Dickenson are both "poets that people who don't like poetry pick as their favourite poet" poets.

I mean, I'd be more at home talking about "Newton was like the Hendrix, but Hooke was more like Led Zeppelin..." but I can't really make the analogy work.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Shelley was the Led Zeppelin. This may or may not work.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Might do Good old "Ozymandias", but we'll see..

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I FUCKING HATE PERCY BYSSHE FUCKING SHELLEY!!!!

He didn't fall off the boat. He was pushed.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: Exactly. Throw in a couple of LOTR references and you've got yrself a Zep song.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

"Look on my orcs, ye mighty, and despair!"

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Bysshe"

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Don't make fun of my spellinge you English teacher, you.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I got it right for once!

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Your spelling's correct! I just always giggle at the sound of the name "Bysshe". Tee-hee!

xpost

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

btw, just informing y'guys that tomorrow I make my screen debut as an extra in (I believe) a British Bollywood movie. I have to act as a mourner at Princess Diana's funeral for a day and get paid eighty quid at the end of it. How awesome is that for a one-off summer job?

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Very awesome, certainly.

This is pretty great, btw: "All bright and glittering in the smokeless air"

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

"The romantic poets: often a bit Bysshed"

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Give 'em some mad Blake like The Daughters of Albion or something and really watch them squirm.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

More people on tv? The watercooler isn't going to have room enough for all the big heads!

Who is going to be the 1st ilxor in HELLO Magazine?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'll let you know when the fame gets too wearying.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's been a while since your TV appearance, Ned. I hope you get repeat fees.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

The fame gets too wearying when irritating little squirts start trying to show off to you on ILX, Ned, surely... ;-)

Definitely looking forward to it, shall report back, perhaps, with devastating expose (w/acute accent) of the Bollywood industry. Although I fear that Blake soliloquys must be kept to an absolute minimum... :(

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Man, they'll let anyone on the television these days... :-P

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I've just booked a solo show. Blimey! Scary.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

My official job title is actually 'Model', y'know. :-P

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Well, can you get three of your hottt male model friends to come with you and stand in front of me on the stage, so I don't have to look at the audience and they don't have to look at me?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I got one of those stupid alert things telling me someone had messaged me on OKC, so I went and looked, and the first thing I saw on his profile was this massive rant about how much he hates hunting. Grrrrrrreat.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

haha was it c*l*m?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not unless he's 51.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

He sounds a good man.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Did you get my YSI, Kerr?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

OMFG

This is the movie I think I'm going to be an extra in!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5378958.stm

It translates to 'Dance Baby Dance' and I'm going to be in it! With Jose Mourinho! Unbelievable!

I wonder if they'll be there tomorrow?

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I did kate. I will play it now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a 10 minute guitar or keyboard solo?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

kate can you supply me when you come round, we can run it through the rogers and the t-amp

― Ed (dali), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Whats getting rogered?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

g00blar, Pash, I've sent you friend requests.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Monday, 25 September 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sorted. You've got a lot of page views already!

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all. K8, have just listened to your new songs - lovely. My Angel for Christmas number 1!!

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

Morning!

Damn, Ed, I didn't see this before heading over last night. I had it on my Big Stick as well.

How's everyone today? I've had a bit of a headache for a couple of days now.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

some bastard's given me a cold

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.big-stick.org/images/bigstickphoto.jpg

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, WTF? I meant my big DATASTICK.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

I should have said. I sigh?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I went into my second class yesterday feelin' fine, and came out with what I know to be the beginning of a cold. Damn students.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

Freshers' Flu!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want Freshers Flu! I'm being so healthy at the moment!

Maybe it's caffeine withdrawl - though I had a cup of tea this morning! Maybe it's due to my post-sundown carbohydrate ban. Maybe I'm being too healthy. I knew all this healthiness was bad for you.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god no not freshers flu, I bet I get that any minute now. I already have freshers fatigue, in that I'm fed up to the back teeth with the lot of them.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ah we're all so old!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

Don't call me old! I'll shake my cane at you!

Actually, I realised that I was old, the other day when I was giving my mum tips on dealing with arthritis in the ankles.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Wotcha folks.

I'm ill too. Group solidarity and all.

I'm old, too. Worn out at such a young age. And the freshers are coming. The students are coming back. No more trips into the town centre for me. Not that I really make any, anyways. Always too busy, too many people rushing about. Noise and confusion.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Argh @ 2 x sketchy US modular synth manufacturers:

manufacturer 1:

22 Oct. 2005 Payment To ***** ******** Completed Details -$212.00 USD
19 May. 2005 Payment To ***** ******** Completed Details -$50.00 USD
13 Jul. 2004 Payment To ***** ******** Completed Details -$255.00 USD

Manufacturer 2:

1 Mar. 2004 Payment To ***** *. ******** Completed Details -$299.00 USD

Add it all up and it comes to just over 800 bucks! I could have given that money to Grant at Wiard Synthesiser, and had something by now. Well, had something for over a year at least.

I wonder what the best way of getting this money back is? How does PayPal's dispute system work?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

Eh? I don't understand, Pash. They took your money and haven't delivered the synths?

I don't understand PayPal at all, sorry I can't help.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

They have taken my money, and delivered fuck all. Up till dealing w/these 2 individuals, my experiences with buying cottage-industry modular synth panels has been 100% great. Bruce D at ModCan and John Blacet at Blacet research in fact generally ship from stock, and I get the goods in less than 1 week. Both of them are 1-man operations to the best of my knowledge. There's really no excuse for this shit, is there?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

Can you leave them negative feedback or whatever other system eBay allows? Or was it not eBay, is that the problem?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not ebay. The main forum for this is the analogue heaven list, and my plan is at the end of October, give up any hope of receiving anything from these guys, try to recover my money, and post up bad trader reports on AH and any other synthesiser/electronic music forum I post on. AH has over 1000 subscribers. That's all I've got.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Simple, but unhelpful, answer is you only get 45 days to open a Paypal dispute.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone like kayaking and wants to do it for cheap in london? at a party on sunday i was told you can do it at the reservoir just north of clissold park, whenever you like (except in evenings in winter i think), including use of all equipment etc, for FORTY POUNDS A YEAR. so yeah. who wants to come kayaking? you get to hang out in the WATER! and make your arms all BUFF! and sit down while you're doing it! and collapse in laughter as i attempt to re-learn my eskimo roll!

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, your CrackBerry has been left behind by your workaday self. Leave it where it is or pass it to you at work - The. Choice. Is. Yours.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, today's random system problem on my computer is that Media Player will not work properly, and keeps skipping and stalling. NOOOO!!! Do not make me work without music. I will go mad if I have to listen to this lot.

Kayaking sounds too much like hard work to me, sorry.

Though I did do it once or twice, and it was fun, but that was due to its being in a beautiful Adirondack lake.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

I coming home for it at lunch.

kayaking sounds good

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Kayaking sounds too much like hard work to me, sorry.

no dude it's TOTALLY easy. seriously. unless you're trying to go upstream or getting tossed around (which obv on a reservoir doesn't apply), you just gliiiiiiide across the water with next to no effort. and don't worry about cold water cos they will lend you wetsuits. oooh wait i have my own wetsuit! i'd forgotten about that.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

45 days! That's pretty useless when dealing w/cottage industry guys, especially the more in-demand ones. Grant @ Wiard usually takes a couple of months to make up & supply a module, for instance (he always quotes ~accurately, and communicates quicky, though) a couple of months isn't unusual.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it's kind of useless to me if you can't do evenings, as that's the only time I really have available. I do need to do something which builds middle body strength, though. I walk for my legs, and lift weights for mine arms. But the middle of me remains thick and flabby and unexercised.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yoga is the answer to all life's problems

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not keen on the religious aspect to Yoga. I don't want to turn into a babbling new age hippie.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good lord, I think I have discovered my crush's name, thanks to the Tatler. What a double-barrel of joy. Not a very flattering photo, though, he looks positively wolfish. Though I suppose that's the point.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

If, in the American South they can do Christian yoga, then you, my dear, can certainly avoid it as well.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's kinda amazing, that they get away with that. How is it allowed? Don't they know it's NOT CHRISTIAN?!?!?

The only google references I can find for him, are that he appears to have produced 2 (rather dodgy) films. I'm looking for pictures, dammit!

He's got the same name as several members of my family - though spelled in the most, errr, unusual way I've seen yet. And it's a weirdly spelled (Gaelic) name to start with.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

£140 to go to the ball. Mwah hah hah hah. I might just...

OK, I'd have to get a freaking gown...

Oh wait, BAH!!! the application closing date was 22nd September. I cannot go to the ball now. :-(

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

OHMIGOD, I have actually SEEN one of his films. Bwah hah hah hah hah. It was rubbitch, too. Clever premise, but still, rubbitch.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

when i went to yoga there was zilch religious aspect to it... also my aunt is a yoga teacher and not religious in any way, unless she hides it very well.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Can we go one evening next week? Do we have to dress in rubber?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bored with exercise now. I want to talk about my future husband there. I've no idea how to pronounce the last of his three names. It's spelled like Slough which means it could be anything. Gow? Guff? Goo?

Of course, in the vowel compression that renders Cholmoldeney as Chumley, he might well call himself Whusloof for all I know.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

take yr point about evenings though. i'll ask you again in april. it can be pretty good for middle body strength if you do it a touch more vigorously than the gliiiiide thing, because of all the twisting.

xpost yep, i'm up for that. i'm waiting for ppl to send me details of it. um you probably don't have to dress in rubber, but i can't work out - given that we are on the internet and i can't hear your tone - if you think it would be a good or a bad thing. i am gonna wear my wetstuit cos i never get to wear it.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

I've started doing yoga - it's great. The internet showed me how to do it, and I can feel myself getting more flexible as time goes on. It's easy and hard at the same time, and very good.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking in winter in a reservoir in north London all over neoprene would be a good thing.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

This is starting to sound like a a very FP conversations. Contortions and rubber, oh my...

Dammit, is no one going to give me an answer on the Guff/Goo/Gow connundrum?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

goff I think

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, you can take the girl out of the Goff, but you cannot take the Goff out of the girl.

(I cannot believe I just said that. That is terrible, even for me.)

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, K8, I see now why your band's no-drums-one-guitar-one-amp-and-a-laptop thing is so so smart. Organizing gear-share with other bands is like repeatedly running into a brick wall, but sort of delicately, so as not to hurt the wall's feelings.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, we still get emails from idiots going "you're the local band, we should use your drumkit" and you can only politely reply "Dude, we don't HAVE a drumkit!"

Oh, and trying to explain why my amp is so small when people want to borrow giant stonking amps that can be heard over a kit... ah, forget it. Yeah, I made a very deliberate choice when I started this band to be as gear-free as possible... and then bought all these pedals.

OK, it's almost stupidly easy, to ~~stalk~~ research crushes on the web. Another quick google revealed his work address, telephone and email. This is kinda scary and I feel a bit creepy/dirty for being able to find it out so easily.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

This is starting to sound like a a very FP conversations. Contortions and rubber, oh my...

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say that!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's quite an Irish name, I'd have thought. Though of course that's only ~~half~~ a third of it!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Heh heh, you have a certain reputation to uphold, FP!

Actually, it's funny because I had decided, in crush-world that his name was Percy Thornaby-Gore and that's really not that far off. He is an agent. I wonder if he just handles televisual stars, or if he would act as a music artists' agent... no, wait, what am I talking about? I *AM* a televisual star, now!

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Handles", hunh hunh hunh.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've still got dirty thoughts at emsk in a wetsuit, tbh.

Damn SQL Server and it's slowness! How am I supposed to analyse this data when SQL returns results with this level of languidness? Hmm?

Languidness? That can't be right, surely.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Languidity?

My freaking server is being slow as f*ck today, too. I'm trying to drag my tables around, and they're going S L O W L Y as possible.

But it does amuse me now, that the database assistant program is called Merlin. And the thing you call it with goes "Merlin, please..." so I keep wanting to say "Merlin, please... RELEASE THE SOCKS!!!!"

ha-HEM.

I'm so bored. I'm prgramming compliance reports and they always want stuff that's dull as toast but fiendishly difficult to extract.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Dull but difficult annoys me. Difficult = a challenge = fun, right? But yeh, it's always stuff that's dull to code, difficult to code, and to soemone who doesn't know how the system work, sounds really easy. So when you haven't doen it after a week, they come along all cheeryannoyed going "Oh, it can't be THAT hard." Grrrrr.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, see because no one understands what, exactly, it is that I do, they all think that everything I do is fiendishly difficult. When today I'm just half coding with hand eye and ~~stalking~~ researching crushes with the other.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Round our parts, I do stuff that is fiendishly difficult for THEM to do, but they think it's all easy for me. I try to be self-depricating, but they then think I'm even more of a codewizard.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Coding is the one thing you should never be self depreciating about, because then they start to think that it really is "aw, shucks, nothing..." to do some of this stuff.

I have a much more, well Scotty off Star Trek approach, in I always take the attitude of "Och, nae, Captain, the databases cannae take nae more!!!" and then pull it out at the last minute and everyone thinks I'm clever. :-)

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

I have a friend called Merlin. He tends to make all programming look easy :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Does he hunt socks, though?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

langour!

wetsuits are like the least sexy creation in the world, let's be honest. very very very few people look hott in a wetsuit, and even they look better out of it.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I doubt they even register, he's a bit of a techno-hippy.

When today I'm just half coding with hand eye and stalking researching crushes with the other.

Hand eye? http://static.flickr.com/50/143954019_dfc69f47ee_o_d.jpg

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - who are you callin' a langer?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, watching the posh totty push their little sailboats into the Solent at Yarmouth last week, I realised that wetsuits are actually UNBELIEVABLY hotttt.

I wonder if Mr. Thornaby-Gore sails as well as hunts...

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

woo someone just crashed a truck full of scaffolding into a car outside. no one hurt at all, back of the car's pretty fucked though...

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I look fantastic in a wetsuit, but then I look fantastic whatever I wear.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

how 2 b modest plz?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

That photo is so freaky, mainly because I had forgotten what my wrists look like without all these horrible lumps all over them.

I'm having another lumpendectomy soon. Sigh.

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/65/224309041_cb1561c836.jpg?v=0
looking fantastic

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, morning. Erik Satie in the CD player and homemade bread for breakfast. Now if only I didn't have to be at work.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

OK, my boss just cancelled our meeting because she just couldn't be arsed to have one, heh heh. And she's away for two days. Which means I've got two days of guilt free mucking about on the interweb with nothing to do! Hurrah!

Damn, wait, no, I've got to make up the champagne lists. I wonder if anyone would notice if I put myself on them once...

x-post, Ed as a Franciscan Friar. Excellent! What will his atheist friends say now?

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

woo someone just crashed a truck full of scaffolding into a car outside. no one hurt at all, back of the car's pretty fucked though...

haha the kit is in town!

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

FUTBH

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

No Tonsure, no credibility.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my...

http://www.fighttheban.com/gallery/Fgallery6-7.jpg

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Far too shorn.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

tonsure, shorn.... and you people say i am hard to understand, wtftbh?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

SPEK DI INGLESE FOULEST KIT

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

the scaffolding was all sticking out the back and made an hole in the car!

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Shimura Curves' new look. What do you think?

http://www.speakwell.com/well/2004winter/media/kinks.jpg
http://www.odarainternet.com.br/supers/musica/imagens/kinks.jpg

― Cabal Of Secret Chefs (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

i think you all look like guys.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously not us wearing it... no wait, of course it is, coz that makes me Ray Davies! Excellent!

(they kept their equipment in my parents' garage, you know.)

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Guitarist has just dropped out of gig in Leeds on the 28th Oct due to circumstances beyond his control. In one way a bummer, BUT the FUCKING MASSIVE upside is it means I can do a solo improv analog modular synth set!!!!! I'm really excited by the prospect!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

YAY! Yes! Turn gigs your band can't do into solo spots! This is what I'm doing next month. (It's only fair, they're doing the next gig without me.)

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kayaking is cool. Did you not see the excellent photos of Madchen and I kayaking (well, canoeing of some sort) yesterday on the WDYLL thread? My arms hurt like really hurty things today though.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah!!!

My arm and my leg have been in The Times!

http://www.csshhq.org.uk/images/times1.jpg

Do you see where the triangle of the Socksman's jacket is flying up? The jeans-clad leg that it points to is mine, and the tweed-clad arm directly above is mine. You can see a tiny bit of my bun sticking out above the bloke in shorts' shoulder.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Swoon...

http://static.flickr.com/100/253370192_e2dc503db3.jpg

God, I'm bored. When can I go?

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Kayaking is cool. Did you not see the excellent photos of Madchen and I kayaking (well, canoeing of some sort) yesterday on the WDYLL thread? My arms hurt like really hurty things today though.

yeah i did! that was what reminded me of the conversation on sunday. looks AWESOME. and y'know, if you do it lots, your arms won't hurt.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, we're totally going back to do it again. We're taking our other halves next time and we're going to laugh at them being crap boys while me and Madchen paddle around like EXPERTS*!

(this will be extra-funny because Stet is about ten foot taller than my husband so they will be lopsided)

* because we've done this for A WHOLE HOUR, approximately 20 minutes of which was spent trying not to go round in circles/collapse on the floor of the boat in fits of giggles/look stupid in front of all the watersports instructors gathered on the jetty laughing at us. We were pretty good by the end, apart from when I fell flat on my face trying to get out of the canoe.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Bah. I've been investigating riding lessons as a form of exercise (*great* for your thighs) and found somewhere with reasonable rates, but I would have to lose another stone before I would be allowed to do it.

Maybe that could be my reward to myself, if I managed to lose another stone. I've got two pounds to go before I'm due a reward of new boots.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Can't they just find me a Clydesdale or something?

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

See, I wanted to go horse-riding, but the riding school was miles away and the canoeing was right in front of us and it looked like so much F!U!N! - which it was. But riding is great. I want to do that now! Maybe that can be next weekend's grand adventure.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

This would work for me:

http://www.cgnetworks.com/gallerycrits/116272/116272_1121362511.jpg

I haven't ridden in about 20 years, so I'd have to start with the utter beginner's lessons - can't even remember how to do a posting trot. But I used to love it when I was a teenager.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, that's a bit big. Sorry!

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

woo kate, riding horses! awesome. i can't afford horseriding. i think i'd rather be in the water anyway. ailsa i was so jealous when i saw those pics. i did some 3am drunk kayaking in hk but it was only in a swimming pool, so 4 or 5 strokes and you're at the other end...

on sunday i decided i would love to learn to play drums. i haven't investigated it yet but suspect it's outta my financial league too.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's only £13 a go for beginners lessons. I mean, OK, that's more than a gig or something. I just want to get back into it.

Drums? Awesome! You could be Shimuras drummer then! Yay!

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

i want to HIT STUFF in a COOL WAY. and sit at the back where none can see me.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

funny you should bring this up, i'm doing some shopping for this sort of thing

http://www.playrecord.net/pearl-rh2000-eliminator-remote-hihat-stand-p-2166.html

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

i want to HIT STUFF in a COOL WAY. and sit at the back where none can see me.

How very gothy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

More wuv for ilxor music!:

Tho sad, "Trust" is probably my favourite of all your songs I've heard, Kate! Key stuff: lovely harmonies as always + that bass RULES.

g00blar do you sing yourself? I'll assume so: I really liked the vocals, you sound totally secure and inhabiting the songs, so to speak. (I've come across far too much mumbly whiny indie and electronic-music vocals lately.) Very suitable for ahem "highly derivative pop n' roll". ;) Good tunes otherwise as well!

Hm was it the 13th you do a gig? In London? Anyone else going?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. Online flirting is cheering me up a little.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

(they kept their equipment in my parents' garage, you know.)
-- We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (masonicboo...) (webmail), Yesterday 3:11 PM. (later) (link)

What, The Kinks? Whoa!!! (when?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, VL! (Sshhh, don't tell anyone but the hamonies and the bassline are totally ripped of Ride.)

It's true, Mark - it's been confirmed both by my family and family friends who were there at the time. It was in the early 70s, when they were parting company with their record label. Their label tried to reposesses all their gear, but their sound engineer was mates with my parents - we were the only people they knew with an actual garage, so they just stowed all the gear in there and claimed they'd pawned it.

Apparently, I've met Ray and Dave, but have no memory of it - they just looked like all my parents' other hippie friends at the time.

I found it funny in hi "unathorised autobiography" how he was talking about his wife wanting to move "somewhere posh... like Cheshunt!" because we were the reason they were in Cheshunt. :-)

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost ~~Yeah, for serious, that Kinks comment deserves explaining! Really?~~ Awesome.

Hooray for flirting! Online or not, it's one of the best things for anyone's mood.

Yes, VL, me singing. Thanks! Gig on the 13th, Yes, but also this Saturday, at the Hope & Anchor.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

That is indeed awesome, Kate

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

So there's another Rock N Roll connection for Cheshunt. Apart from, err, being the hometown of Tesco, Cliff Richard and errr... apparently Goff's Oak just next door spawned ::coffs apologetically:: Posh Spice (not actually that posh).

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

(I'd still prefer some flirting, tho.)

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, Kate, you're now only about my third-best match within 250 miles on OKCupid.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, I really should do something with that OKC account. But I can't be bothered, really. Conversations always seem to peter out after a few emails. If you don't meet up soon enough, you run out of things to say. There's got to be a better way to meet people...

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

Good old myspace. Who wants to be my friend today? I'll tell you...

You have been invited to join the watch me on my sexy live cam group on MySpace.

Do you think they have downloadable music tracks?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

The pinnacle of my social life so far as meeting people goes, was last summer, when I got to know a random stranger just by chatting to her in the street several times.

I might be meeting someone from OKC soon - as in, this weekend soon. Not sure if it's the right thing to do, but it's her local munch on Sunday, so I mentioned it, and she said she'd probably go along if I was going to be there.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

What is a "local munch"? Or is that something I don't need to know?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Students,

Yesterday, when I wrote on the board, in big letters, "ANYONE CAUGHT IMPROPERLY USING A SEMI-COLON WILL BE SHOT," I was using hyperbole. If you look in our Glossary of Literary Terms, you'll find that hyperbole is "bold overstatement, or the extravagant exaggeration of fact or of possibility; it may be used either for serious or ironic or comic effect." In this case, I was hoping for a comic effect. No one will actually be shot for misusing their punctuation, and when I wrote that statement, I was not speaking for the college at large. My intention was not to frighten you, and I do not wish to belittle the very serious effects that violence can wreak. Please don't report me.

My career is in your hands,
Your Teacher

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munch_%28BDSM%29

(xpost)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

(feel free to call me Ole like in them old days rather than VL btw, I just changed screenname to avoid 428214 ilx hits of er varying qualities if googled)

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

the Society of Janus

Janus was the name of the mags those dirty old men were selling at their stall in the barras market years ago that I mentioned before on another thread!
x-post

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

Good lord, what a sordid history. It just sounds dirty. Can I start mine own society, though, where I want to meet dignified, posh, silver-haired men, and beat them with riding crops while riding them? Hah!

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's not sordid any more, I promise!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hugh Janus

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lol!

(I mean, do *I* look sordid to you? ;-)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

college lecturer's wife is giving birth, so he's off, obv. Afternoon lesson doesn't start till 1pm, so I have the rest of the morning to goof off in.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I should do some work, really, I suppose...

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Work? A nonsense! Good off with us. I'm only an hour into goofing off because my boss is off at a training session and I'm already bored.

Excited, though, because I'm going to see John and Jon tonight. Hurrah for gangling fiddle boys and impish accordian boys.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

So should I. I'm supposed to be debugging horrible Excel stuff, though. It is a bug that, to be fair, is in code I wrote. It will be horrible to fix - probably a big rewrite, because it's a major problem with the flow of control. There is, however, an easy workaround - an extra blank line on the end of any input files will avoid triggering the bug. So my manager's response: "hmmm. don't tell the staff about the workaround. Fix the bug."

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

After today, my boss is off for the rest of the week. So I'm carefully monitoring the net connection, because I fully expect him to be downloading porn at some point today.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

Can't you 'fix' the macro by getting it to add an extra blank line on the first line of your code.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

The phone keeps ringing, not answering it is REALLY WINDING ME UP.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear! i've got to learn a folk song by tonight to get into the gig for cheap! I've just downloaded one called "All For Me Grog" which sounds about right for me.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

Do you have a copy of "Liege & Leif"? just sing one of the songs from that!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

I think even I could get through "Matty Groves", though I'd clear the room in the process.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

The last fm watercooler group really is dead, huh? No one even comments on the charts now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

and who is http://www.last.fm/music/Get+Cape.+Wear+Cape.+Fly

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

..Or you could learn "twa corbies", that'll cheer them up no end, har.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

I look at it every now and then, Kerr, but it's kind of pointless for me since I have no way of playing/listening.

Get Cape Wear Cape Fly is a boy and his laptop. Truck Festival graduate, managed by a friend of mine. I think Emsk is mates with him.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Can't you 'fix' the macro by getting it to add an extra blank line on the first line of your code.

Probably not. What I need to get it to do is keep running for exactly one extra (non-existant) line when it reaches the end of the file. The problem is the file is divided into variable-length blocks, and the only way to find the length of a block is to look for the start of the next one. *Or* the end of file, of course.

This is where I lose out by not having formal programming training - I'm shit at algorithms.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

I saw him recently in the Ten Bells, every time I was going to break away from my group of work people (who were suiting the place up) he was on his mobile. The manager that is, I've never even seen GCWCF.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

"The Twa Corbies", classic or dud?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh, murder ballads, oh yes. You can always tell how good a folk song is by how high the body count.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Get Cape Wear Cape Fly is a boy and his laptop.

he has a guitar as well, and a friend with a trumpet. he's doing rather well i think, certainly seems to be on the radio every time i go anywhere they're playing music radio, and i hear lots of strangers humming/singing the baaa-da-ba-ba-ba bit from his new single. which is cool as he's on the side of good.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

The more I think about it, the more I sulk. I want to go to the Ball.

Or at least go sockshunting again next Sunday.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

Shall I drop £31 on a folk boxed set so I can get a recording of that song Pahmina posted the lyrics to? To be fair it looks like there is a lot of good stuff on it.

http://www.topicrecords.co.uk/acatalog/index2.html

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

£31 is not a lot of money for a box set.

Where is my fairy godmother to wave a magic wand and say "and so you shall be..." so I can go to the ball?

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

Do you ever visit other peoples profiles Kate to see what they are/have been listening to?
I hardly have anything on my http://www.last.fm/user/trailofgybe/ account for last week as I was listening to jazz so it all went on http://www.last.fm/user/pfunkboy instead.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, this is what my mum has to say about AW-G:

Now the silver fox.... Have you forgotten all the stories about master/maids etc. Look at the snobbishness and arrogance written all over his face! That's the sort who has a miserable wealthy wife somewhere, a mistress somehwere else and chases every other thing laid at hsi feet for two minutes then abandons them! Beware.

My mum is hilarious.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

And reading mills and boon, perhaps.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

...especially considering he's got that look on his face because he's confronting a hunt sab, saying "it's not very NYCE when a fox eats one's lambs!"

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

your mum is otm!

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what's going on here anymore. what's all this about hunting?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Kate's mum OTM.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Emsk, he was lovely. You have no idea how beautiful and magnificent he was, his pinks aflapping as he ran with the the... errr, hound.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

ew.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

ARGH MY MENTAL EYE!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what's going on here anymore

We're talking about Kate's mum being OTM!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

What are you two on about? I was talking about his lovely RIDING COAT.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Or about someone who's mum's mum's mum was quite possibly on some money.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

My great grandmother would have had him for tea! She had tea with the King, after all.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think my fox was originally hers. I wonder if my mum would send it to me, if I promised to look after it.

I mean, it's a hundred years old now. It would be dead by now anyway, lambs or no lambs.

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well, so would your great-grandmother, but no-one's saying it would be tasteful to wear her around your shoulders.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

I've worn her clothes. So why shouldn't I wear Mr. Fox's clothes?

― We Are The Village Green Psychogeographical Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so bored today. And I'm only halfway through the first of two days with nothing to do. How am I going to survive tomorrow?

Oh damn, I still haven't sent out the champagne lists. Maybe time will go faster if I listen to some music.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Howdy folks. I am off sick. Bleurgh.

HOWEVER, looks like I will be coming to Poptimism next week!

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah! (Well, for the Poptimism bit, not the sick bit.)

Actually, you were in my dream last night. And Chris, as well. I was at a party in your house, trying to find clean clothes.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yet there are often NO PARTIES and NO CLEAN CLOTHES! Spooky!

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry, I am a bit spaced out in the head today)

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

My mum's hilarious relationship advice continues:

What is the Mills and boon?
Unless you are introduced and have a pedigree six miles long that type will think you are for their eating!
Listen to your mother for once. M!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea why my clothes were not wearable in the first place. You told me to go and look for something in Chris's room, and it was very embarrassing when he came in and caught me riffling through his drawers. (heh)

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha I shall be sure to tell him!

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

it appears that we are no longer alone in the basement of our office block and there are now cute girls in the next door office.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

I wish we had cute persons next door. We just have Freemasons.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kate's Mum is OTM. (Slight Return)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

You know, at the moment, even some slight mutual devouring would be an improvement.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't *have* to be his third wife, or whatever. Right now I'd settle for a tawdry affair.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

my neighbour's cat is hella cuet. he hasn't fully grown into his BIG PAWS yet, plus he has a black tail with a white tip, like a magic wand.
we're talking about neighbours now, right?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

No, we are talking about Silver Foxes. This one is called Kate, apparently:

http://www.animalsforawareness.org/images/fox_kate.gif

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

i see foxes at least twice a week. i saw one on the way home last night.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen one since I moved, but there used to be a HORRIBLE YOWLING ONE on my old street. (Not as bad as the Noize Lesbians, but still annoying.)

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

I saw half a dead one splattered across the road on my way into work the other day.

I'll talk about neighbours if you like teh_kit. Maybe even Neighbours. Gail Robinson came back!

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh noes! Alert the authorities! Have someone arrested!

There was another one at the house in Swiss Cottage. But it didn't yowl, it mewled. I think the crazy old lady downstairs used to feed it. And then it turned up with a litter of foxlettes. They used to gambol on the lawn under full moons. Not quite as quite as lambs gambolling at ATP, but still. However, the Screaming Man at that house was possibly louder than the Noize Lesbians.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

considering you just ruined FoxTalk, neighbours will be fine.
or if you're like me, to hell with the neighbours, let's talk about their cats. this is what becomes of a cat lover with a cat allergy. w03 1z m3 tbh.

so Wandtail has a little friend that lives with the neighbours on the other side, we call him Jingly. in the summer, they play the game that they cunningly designed together.

as far as i can work out, these are the rules of the game: they sit in the middle of the car park, batting at each other, like cats do. this goes on for as long as it has to, until the trigger for the next stage of the game: a car enters the car park. when this happens, they RACE to the catflap in the fence. the winner of the race is allowed to pass through the catflap and into the garden, and the loser has to stay on the carpark side of the fence. once each cat is in position, the next stage of the game commences: they bat at each other through the catflap. once i've walked by, one of them will hide under my car. i haven't figured out the criterea for which cat gets the carspace yet.

it happens exactly like this, every time they play together. i seriously think they have the rules written out someplace. maybe even under my car. it's very methodical.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

I like foxes but I would.

Morning etc. Mmm, Erik Satie.

So, how best do I arrange to visit London like every two weeks or something just for the hell of it without robbing banks?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

It's like Cat Mornington Crescent or something! x-post

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

everybody says they hate it when urban foxes get all howly and rowry at night but i kinda like it. i terrified a squirrel in our garden the other night, it was the cutest thing i've seen in ages, leaping all over but freezing every time i made eye contact with it, then leaping again as soon as i looked away.

ned, get courier flights.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Fox Cubs Gamboling, aw.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

rob liquor stores, Ned.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, the drugs mule. Ha ha!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think posh boys gambolling are much cuter than foxlettes gamboling. Just look at Busted!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ned, build your own dirigible.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

The other week when a friend and I were walking down a posh road in West Hampstead we saw a fox three times and it was quite glossy of coat etc. Have to say, there is a Gray's Inn Road fox which must live high off the bins and the Inns.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, speaking of squirrels, Emsk... what if a FOX chases a squirrel? Under current hunting laws, the fox would be arrested, and destroyed (like poor Dillon faced) if caught persuing a squirrel.

But! If they destroyed the squirrel-chasing fox, they would then fall foul of laws against killing foxes!

So what then, I ask you? WHAT THEN?!?!?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Foxes don't chase squirrels, it just LOOKS like they do. they're actually racing each other to the catflap.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Well, obviously that would be Political Correctness Gone Mad.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

My neighbours don't have cats. However my next door neighbour has a really small and yappy dog which is obsessed with my ankles. I once put my washing basket upside down over it for a minute just so it knew not to mess with me. It didn't work and it hates me even more now.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

buy cats for your neighbours. they are fun.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

My next door neighbour has small yappy dog too, and when he starts yapping the big dog a few doors down loves to join in. Especially when I'm kipping after a night shift.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

There are a whole pack of dogs on my morning jogging route. The first time I did it, they went utterly mental, chasing all the way up the hill (though they were behind a fence). The next time they were a bit late noticing me, and did not catch up until I was almost past their bit of the fence. So I laughed mightily and shouted back "You snooze, you lose, doggies!"

This morning they just barked, but did not chase. I wonder if I am getting faster and fitter in getting up the hill, or if the dogs are just getting used to me.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Just look at Busted!

posh? they're from SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFEND

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I want a cat for myself. Or a beagle (small, occasionally yappy - CUET AS FUCK!). I'm not allowed though :-/

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Dillon barked like a fiend, even when socks were not in apparence. he rode a motorcycle, too. I wonder if it's against the law to ride a motorcycle without a helmet on your hound!

x-post, errr, no, Charlie wasn't.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

only one of Busted was from Southend.
he sat a few tables away from me at a local restaurant once. he signed a few autographs, which was nice of him.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

ha i stand corrected then! i didn't realise the watercooler was also the busted fanclub HQ

of course it would be typical the rubbishest one would be an essexer

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, speaking of squirrels, Emsk... what if a FOX chases a squirrel? Under current hunting laws, the fox would be arrested, and destroyed (like poor Dillon faced) if caught persuing a squirrel.
But! If they destroyed the squirrel-chasing fox, they would then fall foul of laws against killing foxes!

So what then, I ask you? WHAT THEN?!?!?

just let them be, dude. one of the things that separates humangs from animals is we know right from wrong. or should, anyway. which reminds me... those rottweilers that killed that baby - obv they sound like horrible dogs bred for nastiness and yes it was good that they put them down so they couldn't do it again (though if they'd been brought up differently they maybe wouldn't've done it at all) but i was reading the sun (it was at work! i read the red tops and the daily hate mail if i find them free, just for the um alternative slant and the roffles)'s front page story on it and on the front page they referred to them as "devil dogs" (their scare quotes) then by the time they got to the story inside they were just devil dogs. f'some reason that really wound me up. anyone know why?

I once put my washing basket upside down over it for a minute just so it knew not to mess with me.

haha ailsa this is awesome! i wish i'd seen it.

there seem to be hardly any dogs round our way.there's one guy with this massive fluffy old alsatian that he takes on very slow walks, and that's all i can remember seeing. loads of foxes and cats though.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

i live in Southend, so i tend to know about LOCAL HEROES such as James from Busted.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

and phil jupitus haha

tho he's mr leigh isn't he?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Like this, but with a less cute dog, and the basket upside down.
http://www.kyleandtara.com/images/menagerie/baylie%20in%20basket.jpg

Once Bonfire Night they were giving at all that "keep dogs inside because loud noises like fireworks can cause them to panic" shit on the telly so we spent the next week or so sneaking up behind it going "boo!" to see if we could make it piss off and leave us alone. That didn't work either.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Look, I didn't make the rules! The ban did! You chase squirrels, you get put down. You kill fox, you break the law. So what happens when fox chase squirrels? It's self contradictory.

Anyway, look at the face on this terrifying, squirrel-chasing DEVIL DOG:

http://static.flickr.com/122/254142620_9365103f9f.jpg

(I thought there was a better picture of him riding the motorcycle, but I could not find it.)

I don't understand the Rottweiller thing, though. I've known quite a few, and they have been such sweet tempered lovely dogs, far more likely to try and climb in your lap than rip your face off. But who knows how they were raised or kept - you keep a dog half starved and beaten on a roof to scare people off, I hardly think it's the dog's fault.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

(Also, James was the COOL one from Busted. He wrote all the songs, innit?)

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

well, i'm a Leigh boy really, but i just say Southend because nobody knows where the fuck L-o-S is.

don't get me started on Captain Queuejumper, Ph1l J00p1t4r53

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Bloodthirsty hound, threatening the PM's new abode!

http://file010.bebo.com/large/2006/06/05/12/1014163935a1014204468b748634197l.jpg

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i still dunno wtf this hunting stuff is all about.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I want a dog. Man, I wish I had the space to keep a dog.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

you don't have a laundry basket?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't actually! I have a big plastic gypsy bag. I think a dog would suffocate if kept in it.

And I work too long hours to leave a dog at home. Unless I could bring my dog to work... I've worked several places with office dogs.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hamster. They're like dogs except much smaller and they run around in a wheel.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha ha hah, Dillon needs one of these:

http://www.road-hound.com/images/homepage/SySmHomepage.jpg

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

ned, get courier flights.

Now there is that. The dirigible has its virtues, though. But I might get cold.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hamster. They're like dogs except much smaller

Not *that* much smaller - you haven't seen the thing that lives next door. My neighbour takes it to the end of the path (about 400 yards away) in her handbag and lets it walk back itself.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, we had a rottweiler living next door and it was the sweetest daffiest dog, they had a 2 year old kid and he could do anything to that dog and it wouldn't even snap at him. these ones were kept on the roof for security and it said sth about it being in a fairly rough area i think, so i guess they were trained to be vicious.

i want a kitten :( i guess i have to make do with the baby. he is SO CUET though! yesterday he figured out how to use his knees to get off the floor. he can still only move backwards though.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

"I want a kitten but I have to make do with this baby"

isn't that a bit backwards? ;-)

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

heheh i guess. kittens are furrier though. bub babies make funnier noises. this one is obsessed with my watch and likes to try to chew it off my wrist. with his gums and his two tiny teeth.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Down at the castle there are lots of cows around, and at night they low like elephants, great bellowing calls to each other. One night, this was echoing across the fields until an obviously annoyed bird let out a freakishly-loud, shrill, call. It shut up the cows for like two minutes.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hungry baby! He wants to eat time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Argh! I've just seen the first ad for my solo show, and they've spelled my name wrong. Typical.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

They called you Kape?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Kale.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Late!

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

one of the things that separates humangs from animals is we know right from wrong.

There's a question about monkey morality y'know.

Not to mention seamonkey morality.

― angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Folk club was great from start to finish, come dancing on sunday.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Grrr v pissed off with work situtation and need to vent:

Problem A - after I finished my masters I went back to working full-time, initially claiming the extra hours as overtime because I was still on a 30 hour pw contract. Then my line manager said that from the beginning of August my contract should officially go to full-time and I wouldn't have to claim any more. So I didn't. End of August - delay in HR, you won't get paid the extra this month but it will be backdated so you'll get it next month. Now end of September - oh HR can't find anything that confirms your post is full-time, you'll have to claim all the 'extra' hours you worked in August and September as overtime. Which won't show up on my paycheck until the end of October. Well fine, at least I will get paid, but I was counting on extra money TOMORROW - couldn't someone have told me what was going on a bit earlier?

Problem B - the holiday year goes from October-October. I have 9 days of holiday left that I wasn't able to take due to staffing problems all summer. Have just been told - having bugged my manager all month to find out what the situation is - that I can't carry them over to next year (well maybe 4 or 5 but definitely not all 9) and will basically just lose them. Holiday that I earned and through no fault of my own couldn't take.

I want to make a fuss but I don't really know who to blame and I don't want to give myself extra stress when I'm finding it hard enough combining work and being six months pg as it is. Boo hoo.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

I hate the carrying-over-holidays problem. Last year I ended up dropping about three days, I think. This year, at least, I only had 2 1/2 days unused, and I was allowed to carry them over provided a) I used them up soon b) I kept that a secret from everyone else

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

To be honest I don't know how I ended up with 9 left. It looks like poor planning on my part but I genuinely don't think I could have taken them given the restrictions on when we're allowed holiday (not when anyone else is off, not in July or August). So now I just feel like I'm being penalised for being a good employee and covering everyone else's absence.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

I know, me and Big Dave both have trouble fitting ours in around important work and around each other.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Can't your boss show a bit of flexibility, tell him you'll take a week off at first practical opportunity (first week of November?).

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well I think he's speaking to HIS boss about it and we'll see. He's a good bloke but he never seems to be very sure how far his hands are tied by uni regulations. I'm going on maternity leave from 24 November anyway so all I wanted to do was stick the holiday at the front of that to make it longer.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

Archie, DO make a fuss about this. They're already messing you around, which I'm sure is incompetence rather than malice, but you need to stand firm. Good luck!

(p.s. apologies for tipsily texting you last night, hope I didn't disturb you!)

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ambientlive.com/awakenings/images/posters/web_281006.jpg

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yay for drunktexts.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ha I was just about to text you M - I had been in bed since 9.30 and my phone was in another room so you didn't disturb me at all.
Getting drunk texts the following morning is a nice way to start the day though :)

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone, please send me your telephone numbers and I, too, will text you when next drunk ;) (approximately 29 hours from now)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, good plan.

I still have the phone numbers of a lot of the ex-Sinister ILXors, although most of them are probably a bit out of date by now.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

They left the last E off my surname. Bah. I have as many extraneous vowels as possible in there.

Bah, Archel, that sounds rub. But I agree, some things are worth making a fuss over, and holiday time you are due is important - *especially* if you're 6 months pregnant and can really use it!

Folk club was indeed great! FMM and I decided that next time we would give the open mic a go. Bishi did a variant of the song you were talking about, Pash! It was great and spooky and bloody.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

I might give the walthamstow folk club a go one of these days.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't mind going to see John and Jon. (It's funny, I used to have a huge crush on Jon, but now I've decided that I kind of fancy John, he's just got the wickedest, most mischevious smile.)

But I want more mad females singing fake folk songs about Boudiccea and DEATH and destruction. More of that please, it's ace.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

Time to start searching out Shirley & Dolly Collins CDs, then, Kate. "Love, Death and the Lady" is pretty much unending grimness, lyrically.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Hunt Ball tickets ARE still available.

Should I go? Will it be a ridiculous amout of money to pay for something which will turn out to be no fun at all? or a fascinating chance to see how the Other 5% Live?

I really want to go. But I daren't... oh my.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

How much is a "ridiculous amount" in this case?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

£140. That's stupid money. That's the same as I spent on a week long holiday! It's the same as a guitar pedal! But...

Free food. (Wait, I have to check that they do vegetarian - and don't think I'm a hunt sab for asking for veggie food.) Free drinks. And a casino! This is just so James Bond!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's the same as a guitar pedal! But...

But nothing!! It's the same as an effect pedal, which you will always have & get enjoyment out of in years to com, as compared to a party full of ppl who you might well find very very annoying (tho obv you might get song lyric material therein) (also, it's a good part of the price of a daisyrock retro h 12-string, now that I think about it)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

The only really superposh ball thing I've been to was through my work, and that was RUBBITCH. But it was rubbitch because it was full of ~~wankers~~ bankers. It would be a place to wear one of my ridiculous ballgowns and my gold coat that's not onstage.

I'm really, REALLY curious.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Obvious answer: if you think it's a ridiculous amount, it's not for you.

Also not not full of wankers :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've never spent £140 on a night out. Not that I couldn't afford it, but more that I can't quite get my head around the idea. Which is why I kind of want to do it, to see what a £140 night out is like. It's better to regret the things you have done, than to regret the things you haven't done.

The thing that's really stopping me, though, is the idea of going alone. If I could go *with* someone, so I would have a kind of partner in crime to snigger at the whole thing with, I think it would be ace. But I don't know anyone else who has that kind of money!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

It is a lot of money! When you said "ridiculous amount" I figured like 80 quid or something.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

London prices, Pash.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Besides... it's for "Charity" which makes everything OK. Right?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

Is the charity just the huntsmen association or something?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

isn't hunting bad?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Probably the CA or something.

But, you know, if hunting wasn't banned, poshos would go back to raising money for hospitals and landmines and the disease of the week and worthy causes and whatnot with their silly balls. But who am I to complain?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

The void between "London prices" and the cost of stuff up here isn't what it used to be! Back in the eighties, when I used to get down to London a lot, you could stick min 20% on the price of basic commodities, and I used to look in estate agents' windows and laugh. I had a couple of daytrips down last year, stuff seemed to be generally the same, and house prices down there were only a little bit more ridiculously ott than they are up here. I think we've (IE the provinces) got more expensive over the last 10-15 years.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

I still notice it a bit... though I don't travel as much as I used to since we don't tour. But the main place it hits you is in drinks prices.

The funniest bit is And we will not sting you with night-club bar prices - that's a promise! - but what do *they* think are "night-club bar prices"? I mean, I think that £3 and over is excessive for a pint of (non-real) ale. But I've been to London nightclubs where a mixed drink is £8!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

Which is why I kind of want to do it, to see what a £140 night out is like. It's better to regret the things you have done, than to regret the things you haven't done.

kate it's better to regret the things you have done that had some promise to be good, than to regret things you have done that sounds rubbish right from the start.

i can give you free drinks and food and take you to the casino for £100 if you like. and donate £40 of it to charity.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

But the hunt meet itself wasn't rubbish at all! It was actually great fun!

Though I'm not sure how much of that was down to the company, rather than the event. And also, running about a big park with a load of dogs is ALWAYS going to be fun. Being stuck at a dinner table with a load of bores (who were probably only brought in to make up the numbers, because unattached middle aged women are always a liability at balls) probably won't be as fun as that.

Maybe I should skip the ball and just go to the meet the next day.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

... though, you know, last year, when my current obsession was Napoleonic Sea Captains instead of Masters of the Hunt, I would totally have spent £140 on going on an authentic 18th Century gunship.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Last year's ball. Note that Mr Burns appears to have turned up! :) http://www.csshhq.org.uk/tatler.html

I would actually have considered going for similar scientific purposes, but if I'm giving 140 quid to "good hunting causes", I'd want to set something on fire in return.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

That's not Montgomery Burns, that's my future ~~husband~~ other thing laid at hsi feet for two minutes then abandons them you're talking about there!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

foxes?

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

hunters?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

The more you tease, the more I want to go. I'm perverse like that, I'm getting a strange kick out of winding people up over this.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

like i even know what's going on.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, well, Tory pin-up Otis Ferry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2004/09/25/notis25.jpg

ROOOWWWWRRRRRRRRR!!!

Foxy Music indeed.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

But, you know, if hunting wasn't banned, poshos would go back to raising money for hospitals and landmines and the disease of the week and worthy causes and whatnot with their silly balls.

dude, THEY're the ones prioritising their "sport" over all those proper actual important causes! fucking scum.

(ps i am not getting into this again but that one couldn't go without an answer.)

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wahadaminnit!

Go, and use it for song material for YEARS!!!

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I'm not wound up! (ok, not much, anyway) I just don't want you to blow 140 quid if it's likely to suck! That Ferry kid just looks exactly like his dad, it's bizarre.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

i get the impression that i'm missing something here, like there's some big important thing that's passed by me and you're all actually talking about Motorcross or something, and someone's gonna say three words in a minute and it'll all fall into place.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

The stupid, ridiculous, illegal BAN was what turned their sport into an issue in the first place.

Anyway, enough of this, more lugubrious photos of Ferry, Jr. He is ridiculously hot, but it's not surprising.

http://www.jeremynicholl.com/cgi-bin/jn/cm/story-pic.cgi?div=stories&sid=0206341580&pid=0062570393&t=big&8241

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/otisferryGETTY110806_228x345.jpg

http://www.imultimediasolutions.com/admin/news/newsbin/12308.jpg

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

so i'm not missing anything?
i never met a pro-hunting vegetarian before!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

i am gonna host some ball for £140 per person some day just so that suckers will come and pay me money in order to wind people up.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

OK, this picture is strangely terrifying...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/graphics/2006/05/15/ftferry300.jpg

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hello! Loads of work over the past few weeks. Slack period for the next few days, yay.

Kit - thanks for the mp3s, I like very much.

― beanz (beanz), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

oh, no probs. thanks!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

He looks like one of Diana's kids in that last pic. His dad is still better-looking!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

so, who's winding who up? and why?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

He's much better looking than William, as far as Posh Toryboy Totty goes. I like the little wild ginger one better, though.

His dad produces a strange reaction in me, though. It's like, yeah, he's UNBELIEVABLY handsome, but somehow the actual thought of ever touching him kind of makes my skin crawl. I can't really explain it. Maybe it was that story about him watching himself in his mirrored gym. Though from that picture, it doesn't look like he spends much time in it doing anything but looking at himself!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's always been something a bit oily & creepy & er WRONG about the guy's schtick, right from the beginning! I hadn't heard the mirrored gym story, hahahahaha, what a nutjob.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

kate is trying to wind everyone up. with me she is failing cos i am right and she is wrong and she is just being contrary ;)

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://mikezornek.com/blog/images/duckhunt.jpg

they really missed a trick by not making a sequel called Fox Hunt. In fact, as a franchise, it could've gone on and on, finally ending with Easter Egg Hunt.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Why is Tom Conti in a picture with Bryan Ferry's son?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

But I think the WRONGNESS about Ferry Sr's schtick is supposed to be part of the appeal. It was that whole lounge lizard thing. Repulsive yet strangely attractive - or maybe the other way around.

I mean it's not like Roxy Music were ever a particularly *normal* looking band.

x-post, the funny thing is, I'm not actually *trying* to wind people up. I'm just amused that it does. Honestly, I'm not actually anti-hunting, for more reasons than I care to get into on ILX.

And Emma, you know, there's utterly no reason for you to get all righteous about it, considering they hunt SOCKS.

Anyway, I'd much rather look at pictures of posh totty.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

WELL SHUT MY MOUTH

http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/sfoxhun1.jpg

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

who hunts socks?
i tend to keep them in a drawer, all together.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, no. That's *shooting* foxes, which is, still, very much legal.

Anyway, roowwwrrrr...

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,606615,00.jpg

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

Remind me never to G.I.S. for "posh totty" again. (or set safesearch to "on" before doing so at least)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

they escape, well known fact

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Great, we've moved on to Hugo Weaving. You know where you are with him.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

They build up so much static electricity in the spin cycle that they make the leap to antimatter!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Great, now I've got Roxy Music stuck in my head, I'm going to have to go out at lunchtime and buy some.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

i think there are some cruel sock hunters in my room that like to hunt only one of each sock couples leaving the other to grief eternally.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.gamerankings.com/screens3/25063/1.jpg
"BIG GAME HUNTER"

lolol? fuck CS Sauce, i'm getting this game.

*shoots Hugo, mistaking him for a leopard or some shit*

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

OMFingG!!!! Alex James, country gentleman, has revealed plans to go into cheese production!

I think Alex James' cheese would be the best thing, ever.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Did you drop the word 'knob' from somewhere in that last sentence?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit, does anyone have a subscription to the Indie?

http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/alex_james/article1759438.ece

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

ew.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ew? But you love cheese, Emsk! And you love Alex James! I know you do, I've been to Blur gigs with you!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think Alex James' cheese would be the best thing, ever.

Phnarrr and indeed, phnarrr.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

it was just... the... knobcheese thing.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

num num

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

"The more I think about cheese," wrote James, "the more I like it and the more I want some, which is why I'm taking matters into my own hands and venturing into the world of independent cheese making."

"My heart always beats a little bit faster in the cheese aisle of a French supermarket," added the star. "The Italians, too, eat more cheese than us, as do the Danes. Danish cheese is not as well known, but well worth exploring."

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, what a hero.

I miss all the cheese I'm not allowed at the moment :(
Stupidly, I'm reading a book about cheese as well.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, cheese.

I didn't understand the knob comment so it's just as well.

Just got back from the HMV sale, hurrah! Got a best of Roxy Music for £6 - just as well, as the two albums I wanted were £13 each. Also ChangesBowie, Trans Europe Express and Black Cherry.

Now maybe I'll get some work done.

God, I'm never going to have chillren if it means you can't eat cheese.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I can still have hard cheese but nothing unpasteurised, rindy or blue :(
Matt suggested that we pack a wheel of brie in the hospital bag, it should be just about ripe and perfect by the time I've given birth... (except I hopefully won't be going to hospital now).

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hello all. Cheese is vile :)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Parmezan Cheese

Plz 2 smell a little less liek a puddle of sick?

k thx,
teh_kit

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Noooo... I love parmesan. I did cheat and eat parmesan made with unpasteurised milk the other day but it was cooked so I think it's ok.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

but it DOES smell like sick.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, come to think of it, I don't really eat cheese that often. Which is a real shame, as I love it. But I am totally compulsive about cheese - an open wheel is an empty wheel. I just can't have the stuff in the house.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can't eat it anymore since I went on the GF/CF diet. I used to love it as well. CF cheese is VILE. So, no more cheese (but, no more rheumatoid arthritis is the payoff)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

GF = Gluten Free? What is CF? Carb Free? Cholesterol Free?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hummina hummina. How does one keep calm when feeling v. annoyed towards a student worker who should know better? (IE, HI DERE.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Unleash the hounds!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Chav free?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

kit is right about the sick thing even though parmesan is TEH NUM (argh ok now i want a courgette and a fuckload of garlic and some chillies and butter and a small mountain of parmesan), there is an scientific reason for it - it has the same natural chemical in it as sick does, i learned it when i was doing a quiz on the bbc website last year.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

omg, Ned lost his zen?
soon to follow: cats chasing dogs, christmas trees in june.

makes me sad :(

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

gluten free/casein free (casien? I'm not sure how you spell it) We put the little feller on the diet, as it is ahs been known to have a strong effect on symptoms of autism, I figured I might as well go on it too as, a/it would make it easier for him, knowing that he wasn't alone w/it and b/the same things are known to affect arthritis. The upshot after 6-9 months is a/the kid is a lot more "with it" and able to concentrate, though still vv annoying when he's hyper, and b/my finger & knee joints don't ache in the mornings anymore. I miss pizzas, that's about it.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

I bet you would love a chav free diet too though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see many of the fuckers these days!
AIM is up & running, btw.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

The only place I've seen a chav recently is "Robin Hoodie" on the sides of busses.

Just googled casein and found a very interesting article about its effects on autism.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

so true. in the world of independent cheese making, there is nothing quite like taking matters into one's own hands.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Robin Hoodie?"

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Robin Hood. For the kids.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

He is actually wearing a hoodie in the ads. It doesn't look very medieval at all.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

is this a tv show?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea! It's just ads on the back of busses!

I'm getting the strange urge to wear designer suits and lounge about languidly drinking odd coloured cocktails.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

maybe we should do this, I now have two suits and could do with an excuse to wear them.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's a TV show, the BBC's new prime-time-Saturday-Doctor-Who-slot flagship. Do you lot never get off this thread to find out what's happening elsewhere in the world?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a television. I have other things to do with my time when I'm at home than keep religiously glued to the idiot box.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've never seen it either - it hasn't even started yet! But it's all over buses and newspapers and stuff.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't got a telly either. same reasons.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Zen wasn't lost but peace of mind was dangerously compromised by idiocy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

????

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have other things to do too, and I do them. But occasionally I like to watch telly too.

(I've never even seen a trailer for this Robin Hood thing, but I've caught sight of articles about it in the papers and elsewhere on teh web)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a telly! but i don't watch it.
i only watch Lost, and i watch that on my PC.

good to hear Zen is intact.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't read any newspapers or magazines except Country Life! And rest assured, it's not been in that.

Hrmmm. Where can I get a designer suit? I have the urge to be louche. And maybe play synthesizers.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Is Keith Allen involved?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

He would make a good Sherriff of Nottinghamm.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Funnily enough, he is. Playing the Sheriff of Nottingham. Hurrah!

(Kate, he runs around forests in tights. Surely that's *exactly* up Country Life's street?)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

ailsa isn't religiously glued to the idiot box either, she goes CANOEING and to the PUB and um DOES STUFF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT. i have a telly too, it doesn't get switched on much but j and i fell asleep in front of picnic at hanging rock on it the other night when we were both feeling like shit (oh noes i think we are synchronised). tonight i quite feel like watching wife swap after last night's feat of endurance, but i dunno if it's even on. i saw robin hoodie on the side of a bus too, bet it's not a patch on marian and her merry men. aw c'mon the only sheriff of nottingham is alan rickman, everyone knows that...

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Any info on the canoes?

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Em, I was being as condescending to A as I felt she was being to me, implying that I never did anything but read this thread.

I am tired. I don't think I am going to go shoegazing, I think I am going to go home and watch a movie. So there.

Alan Rickman, mmmmmmm. Problem is, now I see him playing Lord Bernard (booo! hisss!) in Child Morris.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I don't think canoeing in designer suits would be very wise.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't implying you specifically, just people in general (hence "YOU LOT" rather than "you, Kate"). Just because you make the rules here doesn't mean you are the focus of all my conversation here :-)

Canoeing in designer suits would rule!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/5388000.stm
Stranded kayakers saved from loch.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to start a thread on the robin hood thing. I've seen the posters and I'm quite keen to like it. I'd like there to be some fun telly I want to watch.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Are Clannad doing the music?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Robin Robin The Hooded Chav
It could work.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I read that as "the hooded claw" which would be a much better film.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.hotink.com/wacky/pitstop/hclaw.gif

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Cape! Pointy nose! Kate wuvs the Hooded Claw!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

canoes - their site appears not to work very well, it is www.castlecanoeclub.org. sounds like sunday morning or tuesday evening are our only options.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying desperately to think if there's anything else I promised my boss I'd do by the time she got back. OK, there's one more report, but I don't understand it at all, and need to go through it with her.

So it's the last hour of the day that's gonna be hardest because I've run out of things to google and attractive meng to look at.

Why do I have only 4 known photos of Percy Thornaby-Gore? There should be more. :-(

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I'm bored with this Percy Thornaby-Gore crush. It's deeply unsatisfying on the accessibility front.

I'm too tired to even go shoegazing. I'm going home.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I now love my manager. Apparently the regulations do allow holiday to be carried over where pressure of work requires it, so I can take my days woo. My last day will be 13 November! Only 27 working days left! Oh yeah and then a whole NEW job of being an mother begins...

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 September 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

congrats

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

i keep thinking it's thursday.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there

I am amusing myself by browsing through OKCupid Quickmatch. I just clicked "yes" to Archel.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah for Archel!

I woke up this morning, went for my jog and discovered that half my neighbourhood was sealed off by the police due to a "serious incident" at the pub across the road.

What on earth is a serious incident? Did another neighbour get sick of the noise from the karaoke and break a bottle over the DJ's head?

Or was it a breakin or something? All very mysterious.

I watched the Line of Beauty last night. Oh dear.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, please don't be another slow Friday, I cannot take it. At least there isn't a major ILX wedding today (I don't think) so there's no excuse.

I think I need a more grown-up alternative to OKC.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

HOTT COFFEE MOD?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

Eh? I had a coffee this morning. It wans't as lovely as I was expecting. :-(

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

There's NOBODY on my OKC matches that I fancy. Okay, there's one, but she scares me - hott and clever and Oxgrad and does karate and plays the flute. I hate her already.

I am scared of today since everyone's gonna gather round my desk to do the whole "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" thing, and how am I supposed to (pretend to) do work with that hanging over my head? Okay, I get prezzies, but even so, I hate attention. I hope they've bought me wine.

I had coffe this morning. It WAS as good as I expected !:)

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

Is it your birthday, JB?!?!?

Hip hip hooray on your magical birthing day!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

i'm having coffee in 5 minutes and it's going to be shit. because it always is, at work.

|-|4pPy 8iR7h|)4\/, d00D!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

I wan to go on a long train journey, apparently there are some new highly luxurious carriages on the Berlin - Moscow Train. All i need now is a young lady to accompany me.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Happy birthday Johnny! I will have some cake in your honour later (any excuse).

I am cataloguing films this morning, which is one of my favourite bits of my job. That probably tells you something about how dull my job is.

So what does it mean when you click 'yes' on Quickmatch FP? I have never followed up any of my matches, obviously, so I don't know how OKC really works.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I just find it too hard with OKC to move to the next step. Like, you exchange a couple of emails, and then you run out of things to say. And by then, you feel a bit foolish saying "let's go for a drink". Except for the boys that live too far away. And I didn't sign up for it to get more email pals when I barely have the time to write to the friends I already have. I wanted to meet someone to go down the pub, go to films, go on rambles with, etc.

But it never seems to make that leap.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ah shucks you guys! It's not my bday till Sunday, but cheers y'all!

You could be talking about MY OKC experience there. I must try the whole "One email, then ask if they want a drink" thing.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

So what does it mean when you click 'yes' on Quickmatch FP?

If you go on Quickmatch yourself, and I come up, and you click "yes" too, then it sends us both an email. It's a bit like the way the old Sinister Crush Robot used to work.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just tried the quickmatch thing. I got matched up with a v. hot blonde from Austin, Texas. 0% Match - 0% Friend - 0% Enemy. Apart from me seeing a desirable gal who I'll never meet, what's the point of that?

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's the way forward. AMP (who is my arbiter of modern morality for interweb girls) says that you should have a 3 email limit, otherwise it builds up unrealistic expectations.

I'm trying to be more... I dunnot, more ladylike or whatevs, trying to wait for the man to lead, suggest drinks or whatever. But that gets me nowhere.

Oh, why is it all so hard? I want an arranged marriage. I've been contemplating going to one of those introductions agencies as I just don't have the time to sort the wheat from the chaff. I mean, let's face it, that's why I was willing to pay £140 to go to some stupid ball - to meet posh totty. So why shouldn't I pay some modern matchmaker to introduce me to posh totty?

Must make an effort to make myself look nice, though. Bah.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

(Bah, x-post way forward meaning ask girls for a drink after an email or two.)

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

(although I really just clicked "yes" on you Archel because I thought "bloody hell, I know who that is!")

I just tried the quickmatch thing. I got matched up with a v. hot blonde from Austin, Texas. 0% Match - 0% Friend - 0% Enemy. Apart from me seeing a desirable gal who I'll never meet, what's the point of that?

All quickmatch does is list other people who have used Quickmatch recently. It doesn't rank them, although you can get it to try to pick people nearby if you want.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, how do you get from Quickmatch to their profile?

The first one who turned up was "a monk at an interfaith centre" errr... no thanks. Monks are celibate, after all!

But after a few clicks, I got a Texan boy who looks like a missing TSM. How do I look at his profile?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

wow, this site lets you keep track of ENEMIES? where 2 sign up tbh?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

I need to take a better photo for my profile. I looks like I'm about to go on a killing spree.

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

You don't! In theory it can only happen if they click yes to you too.

(but some people put their usernames in their description to help you get around that)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

You can't look at their profile from quickmatch, quite often people put their username in their description so you can get to the profile. Its up to them though.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

No, wait... Texas. NO! Too far away. And I hate Texas. Never mind, he's in OK actually. No, that's still too far away.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

And I can't get it to show me only people who are in this country and of a reasonable age. :-(

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

I was SuperMatched (or whatever it's called) witha girl from germany. She was quite cute, and we exchanged a few emails - but GERMANY? If I can't be bothered to get to Germany, then Texas is deffo a stretch.

What's a reasonable age?

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

You can select area on Quickmatch - there's a box at the bottom of the page that you can put a location in.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

Reasonably close to my age. I'm thinking 30 to 45.

x-post, that's what I did! And it still didn't show me people any closer.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

I watched the Line of Beauty last night. Oh dear.

we watched SPICEWORLD! it is just as ace as i always remember it as being. this is how to do popfilms, people. i don't even like the spice girls (except 'stop' which rules) but i love this film.

happy birthday johnny b! what's your okc name? i want to see the serial killer pic.

ed, come to the artmusicpolitic shindig tonight in dalston: circus performers! gypsy beats! (whatever they are.) drum'n'bass! er, live acoustic ska! comfy sofas in an old converted print works and (probably) lots and lots of girls!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 29 September 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds really good but I am cooking for my mum and have to get up for an 8am train to bristol tomorrow.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't show them immediately, because it queues up a few in advance. Once you've clicked through a few more, though, it should start showing UK ones at least.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

OKC got me more action than anywhere else on the internet.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

I am officially old - I fell out of the shower this morning. And landed on my hip (which gave me some hope as it didn't splinter or anything). Ow.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

OKC got me more action than anywhere else on the internet.

With a bloke named fraggle?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

But I want the cornfed Oklahoman DDB.

Oh, never mind.

Problem is, men "my age" never seem to want women "their age" - they want 25 year olds. :-( Age is stupid.

x-post ouch, Barry!

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

haha i forgot you met fraggle!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kate and Emsk did too.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

Plus emsk totally talked to another okc buddy once at a Forget About The Sugar.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

Fraggle?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Emsk, shall we try and canoe a week on tuesday?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, was that that dude? I remember him. He chained his bike to Emsk's bike.

Am I invited to this Dalston shindog (ha ha, typo but it can stay), Emsk? Or is it only for Norf Londoners. Will there be hott boys?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

haha kate yeah it was that dude.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh. Men mine own age always have such terrible hair. :-(

Yes, I'm shallow, but I've become convinced that shallow is the only way to be. Perhaps that's hypocritcal, as I'm not prepared to look A Certain Way but I want my meng to look A Certain Way.

But I'm trying to do something about the weight and the resultant hideousness. So they can do something about their terrible haircuts.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks to aldo I read every occurrence of "cheese" in this thread as "knobcheese" - it works so much better.

e.g.

"The more I think about knobcheese," wrote James, "the more I like it and the more I want some, which is why I'm taking matters into my own hands and venturing into the world of independent knobcheese making."

"My heart always beats a little bit faster in the knobcheese aisle of a French supermarket," added the star. "The Italians, too, eat more knobcheese than us, as do the Danes. Danish knobcheese is not as well known, but well worth exploring."

-- Johnny B Was Quizzical (john.barlo...), September 28th, 2006 2:53 PM. (Johnney B) (later)

Aw, what a hero.

I miss all the knobcheese I'm not allowed at the moment :(
Stupidly, I'm reading a book about knobcheese as well.

-- Archel (slightlyfoxe...), September 28th, 2006 2:58 PM. (Archel) (later)

etc.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

maybe you should put the hair you want people to have on your profile.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

My profile is stigoftdump. Which is a rubbish profile name. I use that as my login to EVERYTHING, and I didn't know that I'd be stuck with that as my profile name. The photo isn't as bad as I remember, but the rest of the profile is horrid. It sounds like an 18yr old.

Just cos your a hypocrit doesn't mean you're wrong. Any anyway, would older posh totty still look hot with DDB hair?

― Johnny B Was Quizzical (Johnney B), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

I did! I put it in the "message me if..." section - "you have a floppy fringe and pointed nose". For real!

It's just strange. I suppose *most* "normo" women don't like men with longer hair. I thought this was absurd, but I was looking through a magazine full of nekkid meng with my colleagues and the other Katies were all "nah, don't like his hair" for anyone that I thought was starting to look quite decent.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

x-post, AW-G still has fairly reasonable hair, even for an older man. I'd be perfectly happy with someone with a regency/mod fop cut like that. It's this buzzcut thing (sorry) that I just can't find myself attracted to.

I mean, that was one of the best thing about the Line of Beauty - the hotttt boys. Men wore their hair longer and floppy in the 80s, and it just looked so much better.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes! i was just about to say, anyone else want to come the the ampmusicpolitic thing? it is a fiver in and organised by some friends of mine. there will definitely be hott girls bc my flatmate is going and the russian. i hope there will be hott boys too. i've been to a few of their things before and there's always cool people to talk to... plus, CIRCUS STUFF!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

CIRCUS STUFF??!?!?!?!?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

i wanna come.. when will this be?

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think I must be part of a demographic, I'd like a little diesel volvo c30, in red.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

Right now I am full off coffee and energetic and thinking "yes!" but we shall see how I am feeling later tonight.

I've been thinking about these things, appearance and shallowness, etc. But I suppose it depends - do you dress to express yourself, or to attract a mate, or both? One would hope that dressing to express oneself would attract a similar-minded mate. But dressing in the "I don't give a sh*t what I look like" manner gives more of a "keep out" message.

I always see, like, cute DDBs and then find myself hating the trendy fashiony Hoxtony girls they always seem to be with. But maybe that says something, really. But by equal measure, I could NEVER dress like a Sloaney girl to attract a AW-G type. :-(

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

Roxy Music or Bowie today?

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, you just came up in my Quickmatch too

I am full of thoughts about what I should be doing to end up in a relationship myself right now.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Bowie.

Hi all; starting other new teaching job today, meeting students for "flash-round" style 15-minute whirlwind intros.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

...see I think half my problem is I always end up identifying with the male half of the equation too much. I listen to Roxy Music and have the urge to wear louche suits and slick my hair back. When I should be looking at the gender appropriate image, which would be to lounge about in posh knickers like those models on the cover of Country Life or whatever.

It really is too bad I'm not gay. :-(

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

DDR Boys: Girls want to be with them and ~~boys~~ K8 wants to be like them (and be with them).

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

can anyone explain this DDR Boys thing? it comes up all the time, but i don't really get it.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

if you want to attract DDR boys just make sure you wear clothes with arrows on it

http://itg.ddrfreak.com/images/itg-screen.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's *NOT* DDR. It's DDB. Dirty Dronerock Boy.

I try to dress like the ladies in Country Life (the magazine, not the album) but I can't seem to quite get it right. I mean, today I've got on riding boots (fake, albeit), Liberty print shirt and tweed jacket. But it doesn't quite work on me.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeah circus stuff! people doing cool things with their bodies, balancing on things and hanging from things and flying through the air. tonight! at passing clouds on richmond road. kingsland road end. i'll dig around for their site.

k8 maybe you need an eddie izzard type, not necessarily with all the makeup (though boys in eyeliner will always be rowr, right) and heels, but he always says he identifies as "male lesbian", whatever that means.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

Dirty Dronerock Boy

i know that much, but what does it meeeeeeeeeeaaaan?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Dirty Dronerock Boys: Shag and Destroy

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

any chance of a summary?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh noes! tonight! i wish i knew before as I have just planned karaoke with folks :\\ you have to let me know of the next one though cos it sounds a lot of fun!

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

DDB = boy from a dronerock band. Usually skinny (drugs ematiated), long dirty hair, obsessed with the Velvet Underground, krautrock, etc. Usual uniform = tight jeans (often black), leather jacket, Chelsea boots, striped shirt or black turtleneck. Sideburns or "I'm too busy thinking about the future of conceptual art/where to score to shave" type facial accoutrements. Not too fond of bathing or washing/brushing their hair. Far too fond of mind altering substances. Guitar pedals and vintage synth gear a must.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

...thing is, I don't even really want one of those any more. I want one who has grown out of conceptual art and drugs and rock'n'roll and now lives in a very big house in the Country and breeds sheep and makes cheese and builds elaborate sheds.

So, errrr, still Alex James, then.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

do you dress to express yourself, or to attract a mate, or both? One would hope that dressing to express oneself would attract a similar-minded mate. But dressing in the "I don't give a sh*t what I look like" manner gives more of a "keep out" message.

but dressing to express yourself isn't dressing like you don't give a shit what you look like!

ken, www.artmusicpolitic.com

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

It is, if what you're meaning to express is "I don't give a shit".

I've been dressing in the "this is the only clean thing that fits me" sense lately, which is terrible, and gives off a terrible impression.

And it's kind of the male version of that, just not being bothered, dressing like every other office drone in London, that I just find so unappealing. I'm sorry to put it that way, and I feel like such a hypocrite for saying it.

I mean, there's a difference between "I am too individual/cool/interesting (insert your own adjective here) to be bothered with fashion" and "I honestly didn't think about these clothes before I put them on me". I like the former. I don't like the latter. And I do feel I need to make more of an effort myself, in order not to be a hypocrite.

― We Are The Village Green Psychiatric Society (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

We've hit 1000. Time for a new one, methinks:

UK Watercooler 18 Certificate: Video Nasties

― Virginia Plainsong (kate), Friday, 29 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

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