Crazy psychopath exes: C/D?

was she hot though?

nobody's ever gone psycho on me, which is pretty amazing all things considered. it's not like i don't deserve one.

was she hot though?

If she put as much effort into skin cleansing as she does into being crazy, maybe she could be.

people who are crazy afterwards tend to be needy beforehand. theres usually warning signs about these things. maybe it depends if you like people that are going to be reliant on you so you can be in control of them or something. not for me though

i agree. clingy neediness when things are goin good: flattering. the same, later, "psycho"

ie, a lot of the time with 'crazy stalker exes' the other person is also kind of as much to blame, in that certain modes of behaviour are actually encouraged (when it suits)

or, needyness and crazy-psycho-exes are both examples of low self-esteem and/or lack of self respect, and therefore an unequal power balance, which can be attractive to certain people who might want to feel or exercise a certain...dominance?

Gareth is pretty frighteningly OTM.

It's really easy to label a girl "psycho ex girlfriend" but not so easy to look at your own behaviour and realise what you've been doing to provoke her reactions.

ie, a lot of the time with 'crazy stalker exes' the other person is also kind of as much to blame, in that certain modes of behaviour are actually encouraged (when it suits)

Which doesn't put the blame on the victim. Stalking is unwanted attention. I know what you mean, but I really hate it when some of the blame is put on the victim (if s/he made it clear s/he doesn't like the attention).

There are signs? Twenty twenty hindsight (sometimes).

i think people usually end up with the kind of people they deserve. most behaviour is pretty predictable really, though maybe we only realise this subconsciously a lot of the time

most of mine are the complete opposite from what dom describes, leaves-in-the-wind when i met them, vanish into the ether afterwards. i like things to be easy, low pressure, no drama, and im also way too visually focused. so, similarly its not really a surprise that i end up with this kind of girl

there are always ALWAYS signs

(i meant to type psycho rather than stalker). but its pretty common that this kind of behaviour IS predictable (the friends usually see it straightaway for a start)

(ie, im pretty superficial when it comes down to it, so i encourage the negative sides of my own relationships, which is basically flightyness)

It is, true, but being in love=being somewhat naive and you fool yourself. You NEVER see reality, the world, the person as it is until it's *too* late.

And fuck people who say about this (and abusive relationships:"It'll never happen to me!" It angers me enormously when people (including my friends) say this. I nearly froth at the mouth when they say this.

Oh ffs, Gareth, they deserve that? Nobody deserves abuse (unless they are masochistic). Sorry, but you're completely wrong in this case. You may be strong and casual about emotions and (wrongly) think you're not going to be the <I>fool</I> who falls for that. You're only naive (or you can easily to switch off your emotions). Relationships are very tricky things: you fall in love and you are blind (up to a degree).

somewhere between want and deserve then (lets not forget, this negative behaviour was probably not viewed as negative DURING the relationship)

there's another kind?

never said i was strong or casual, dont really think its about that necessarily. its about behavioural archetypes

j/k ladies, u kno i love u

bitches, huh

some people have a need to be destructive, others have a need to be destroyed.

and, hey, maybe you guys are the crazy psycho exes too?

why do you think im moving?

oh shit, i just remembered

there was an article about this in yesterdays daily mail

i only had time for a cursory reading of it, but i think it was enough to tell me

oh i've totally been the crazy psycho ex in my day

crazy psycho exes = 99% of the time really funny from the outside. because they are crazy psychos, the dudes are right, but they also usually have reason, because the dudes also deserve it

Not all crazy exes are needy. Some are sociopaths who are very funny and charming at first and then they start controlling your every move and then they start abusing you and then when you leave them they call you at 5AM every night threatening you and then three years later when your best friend is their TA at college CONTINUE TO ASK ABOUT YOU.

Just saying, it's not always needy-turn-psycho. Sometimes it's nice guy-turn-monster.

Boys often like crazy girls when they first meet them but then later the boys gets tired of all the craziness and shout jeeringly at the girls that they are crazy.
-- estela (estelaisale...) (webmail), July 10th, 2003 1:16 AM. (estela) (later)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 8080

^^^^ that is my favourite good charlotte song

girls that hold cards are hotter than girls that dont btw. but, they might play a different card than you

girls that dont hold cards have to follow your lead, you shouldnt go for them though, even though your guaranteed to win the hand

what crazy card-based speed dating have you been involved in?

it was this weird game called Basketball

i've been dealt a few jokers

If you're gonna play the game boy, you better learn to play it right.

i dont have a gameboy:(

Usually, when people talk about "crazy psycho exes" there tends to be a bit of showing off, like "look how upset they are!". Because they really want to feel wanted, and want other people to see that they are wanted.

Also, it's a bit dishonest, because it's a kind of refusal to properly acknowledge the fact that "they are really angry with me about something", which is a bit different.

Unless they are actually mentally ill, in which case, hey talk about them on an internet board using your full name, that's bound to be helpful.

i have totally been a crazy psycho ex before, but i doubt i would be these days.

also is it just my imagination or has gareth been saying "there was an article about this in yesterdays daily mail" on every thread lately?

Even a cursory reading of every thread would tell you that.

gareth gets up at 5 every morning to steal my copy from my letterbox

i think the article was about paul scholes' leather pants

xpost

i wonder why Dom's 'crazy psycho ex' struck at the weekend - shoulda waited til today for bigger coverage. fookin amateurs.

Also, it's a bit dishonest, because it's a kind of refusal to properly acknowledge the fact that "they are really angry with me about something", which is a bit different.

OTM OTM OTM OTM 8080 TO THE POWER OF A MILLION

It's just another way to be dismissive of female anger, oh they must just be crazy to be violating gender roles of nice, nuturing females - never mind that there might actually be something to be angry about.

I was actually going to say something like "it's not just dismissiveness of female anger", and then I realised it probably is.

Maybe it's because I don't hear women bandying about the term "psycho" about male exes. Or not as much anyway, because that carries serious connotations that (rightly or wrongly) are not as easily dismissed as with female "psychos".

woman be hysterical

i think i know what this is about

Instead of "pyscho" I've referred to male exes as "cruel" and "mysognistic" which is worse I think.

when are people going to learn that the way to deal with some one who's wronged you is to act nonchalantly and sleep with her/ his friend's?

crazy gets you nowhere.

men get the 'creepy' label a lot more than women tho (perhaps deservedly so in terms of ratio but there still seems an imbalance, maybe based on who tries to initiate stuff most often)

Well yes, "creepy" for men means "crazy psycho" for women. "Crazy psycho" for men usually means "wife-beater". It's a differently loaded term when applied to men.

Like women never get called "creepy"?

They get called "psycho" more often, by men AND other women. I very rarely hear women called "creepy".

i can probably think of some who have

I get called creepy all the time. :-/

LOL.

yes, that was the joke

AWKward...

:-D

i would feel awkward in leather pants too.

I thought I'd get the joke in before someone else did.

::rolls eyes::

i wish we could do LJ-style polls so i could do a 'which of these behaviours are any creepycrazypsycho at all' poll

You and your polls...

this thread is gonna be so dope by the time i get back from work

it's too bad www.psychoexgirlfriend.com doesn't exist any more. if i had to guess i'd say it got shut down for legal reasons.

when are people going to learn that the way to deal with some one who's wronged you is to act nonchalantly and sleep with her/ his friend's?

otm! rule one if you're hurt by someone's behaviour = don't show it, don't act like they even cross your mind at all. rule two = effect series of small but satisfying revenges if you want but really you should be following your rule one.

going psycho on them just gives them attention, and that's what they wanted in the first place.

Is dontdatehimgirl.com still around?

when are people going to learn that the way to deal with some one who's wronged you is to act nonchalantly and sleep with her/ his friend's?

What happens when they don't have any friends?

family

coworkers

their other exes

(works better for heterosexual men if the ex in question happens to be a lesbian)

You and your polls...

hey i've only started like three. STOP STALKING ME PSYCHODUDE.

LOL @ paranoia...

(WHY YOU BRAKE UP WITH ME!? BASTARD! I DUMPED YOU! OMG GONNA KILL MYSELF UNLESS YOU CALL ME!!!)

(j/k. Not really. I love you still blueski)

what's really good is when you can BOTH be the crazy psychopath ex

I had a "crazy psychopath ex". In her case, mental instability was definitely an element, and she was sectioned for a time. I wouldn't want to deny all blame myself: yes there was an aspect of it being very flattering when I wanted the attention (and very sexy too in a Betty Blue kind of way), and fucking awful when I didn't. But fucking awful it was. She wrote to my parents to tell them I'd raped her; she'd wait outside my flat at two in the morning and then start screaming when I came home; she'd phone me up and leave a message on my answering machine to say she'd swallowed a whole bottle of tranquilisers (and I'd have to call an ambulance to be on the safe side)... I never want to have to live through that shit again, it was the absolute worst.

alternate weekends like a divorced couple with the kids

That should be a Jarvis monologue

she'd wait outside my flat at two in the morning and then start screaming when I came home

i always think to myself if i ever had this, i would leave the house and as she was following i would go to the bus station and get a bus to dnepropetrovsk to see if she followed

i figure she'd get bored by the time we got to ashford

good feature on dnepropetrovsk in today's daily mail

yes, i saw that, the one about buy-to-lets?

foucault seemed to suggest that donetsk was a better bet though

<i>she'd wait outside my flat at two in the morning and then start screaming when I came home

i always think to myself if i ever had this, i would leave the house and as she was following i would go to the bus station and get a bus to dnepropetrovsk to see if she followed</i>

You wouldn't have wanted her following you wherever the fuck you were going, let me tell you. I used to hail a cab and go and stay somewhere else. The last thing I wanted to do at 2 in the morning having just come off a bar shift.

the leather pants market there is enormous (xp)

when are people going to learn that the way to deal with some one who's wronged you is to act nonchalantly and sleep with her/ his friend's?
What happens when they don't have any friends

family

I would hope they didn't fuck their momma.

My craziest ex would talk to herself in a really low voice and she would deny that she was doing it.

She was on anti-psychotic meds, too, which didn't seem to work all that well.

i wish we could do LJ-style polls so i could do a 'which of these behaviours are any creepycrazypsycho at all' poll

In context, I thought "LJ-style" meant "Louis Jagger-style."

LL Cool J style

I'm that type of guy.

Dom is she the wikipedia vandal?

My early and mid-20's were loaded with psycho-ness on all sides. I behaved badly, and I was treated badly, usually, when you consider causes and effects, in fairly equal measure. Gareth OTM about ending up with the person you deserve. I had (have?) a need to be controlling, and ended up with needy girls. The whole thing ended, time and time again, with both of us just feeling crazy around one another, and behaving accordingly.

And yeah, there are always signs, but how is a 22 year old boy or girl supposed to know what they are?

most of mine are the complete opposite from what dom describes, leaves-in-the-wind when i met them, vanish into the ether afterwards. i like things to be easy, low pressure, no drama, and im also way too visually focused. so, similarly its not really a surprise that i end up with this kind of girl

That's me! *flutters away*

And yeah, there are always signs, but how is a 22 year old boy or girl supposed to know what they are?

but wait, 22 year olds ARE CRAZY

yes, that too

Abbott will be back. I just know she will. She loves us TOO MUCH.

Women who love TOO MUCH.

probably the term creepy is less often applied to women because it implies a certain "fear of" and men with crazy exes are either a) just more annoyed or inconvenienced than scared, or b) are still far less likely to actually admit it when they're afraid of something.

i mean, i think that's the case because of environment despite the fact that it's usually assinine to put things in venus vs. mars terms.

http://www.eyeballson.com/jennifer_lopez/enough.jpg

Dom is she the wikipedia vandal?

Either that or someone's broke into her house solely for the purpose of vandalising Wikipedia.

from scanning it looks like nathalie is otm: most of this -- from scanning -- reminds me of momus and his concept of 'well-adjustedness'.

scarier than needy people: people who think lack of self-esteem or whatever is some kind of red-flag-oh-shit-avoid-THAT-person thing. emotional batemanism.

batemanism = hott

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Michael_bluth.jpg

waht is batemanism?

people who think lack of self-esteem or whatever is some kind of red-flag-oh-shit-avoid-THAT-person thing

That must be lonely. Lack of self-esteem seems pretty gosh darn epidemic.

I guess depending on how MUCH lack of self-esteem you're willing to tolerate. But doesn't everyone have to at some point deal with "I'm shitty! I'm not worth a thing!" from their SO?

I actually can't handle that much of it. "Oh be quiet, you're wonderful. No mas."

how can i like a person if they dont like themselves?

and if they dont like themselves, theyre not going to respect me much for liking them

like i said, it's a matter of degrees. I have gone from honestly disliking myself in my 20's to now just having an occasional bad day.

some people have normal self-esteem which necessarily involves a lack of it at times, but even when v low they recognise that this is true of everyone
some people have cripplingly low self-esteem which is perfectly understandable given circumstances, and yr basically a cunt if you don't sympathise
some people have "cripplingly low self-esteem" and like to revel in it, and shout it out to the world, and while these people probably also deserve sympathy i am not the one to give it to them

(all the above being adults, teenagers obv have weird self-esteem and no awareness of others, this is entirely normal)

i must say i don't really understand how anyone can fundamentally hate themselves though. like, not really really hate themselves.

Lex, it's because they're not me. Poor things.

i guess they're just not blessed

and if they dont like themselves, theyre not going to respect me much for liking them

OH TEE EMM.

god i have thought exactly like this for basically my adult life.

it really is otm. When you hate yourself, you treat everybody like a turd. This never fails.

"scarier than needy people: people who think lack of self-esteem or whatever is some kind of red-flag-oh-shit-avoid-THAT-person thing. emotional batemanism."

cio 2007

Wait, wait, wait - Dom started this whole thread because some girl hacked his Wikipaedia entry?

That's not crazy or psycho, that's KARMIC FUCKING PAYBACK, DUDE!

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH

it could have been worse - she could have made a loving tribute site dedicated to you like, oh wait...

BWAH HHA HAH HAH HAH HAH HA, I haven't laughed so hard in ages. Thanks for the LOLs.

Anyway, back to the sensible stuff.

actually there was an article in the daily mail about this yesterday. charlie brooker believes that passantino hacked his own page, when he was on a wikivandalising rampage, he was wikihacking so fast, he got ahead of himself. thats how his tribute page got off the ground as well

it wasnt until a couple of days later that he remembered he'd done it himself, and thats why he hasnt been back onto the thread

and if they dont like themselves, theyre not going to respect me much for liking them

Is this always true, though?

Sometimes, for some people, it takes being loved by someone else to be able to accept the good things about yourself, through being to see yourself through someone else's eyes. "I'll be your mirror, reflect what you are, in case you don't know."

I mean, that was how it worked the pretty much only time I was ever in love - actually in love, mutual love and all that.

Then again, it didn't last. He was so controlling and clingy that he basically tried to control out everything that *was me* about myself. And then wondered why I didn't love myself any more after a couple of years of this.

So if you've got low self esteem, you're screwed either way. Low self esteem leads to more failed relationships which only drives your self esteem lower in a vicious circle.

this is probably not going to end well.

im sure its not always true. nothing is ever always true

haha, the last few have liked themselves rather too much. not entirely sure they're very nice people really;)

fun though!

And you got to see some amazing pidgeons.

Wait, wait, wait - Dom started this whole thread because some girl hacked his Wikipaedia entry?

No, she sent a threatening letter to my mother and committed several acts of using a false identity in order to attack me and some of my closest friends.

I'm sorry, I'm going too fast for you. A "boyfriend"/"girlfriend" is something that people with social skills sometimes develop, Kate. You know how you start up crush threads? Imagine if you were capable of speaking to the people you creep over, that may "lead" to a "relationship". Do you follow me?

oh yea i forgot about that one

look, i'll be honest with you guys, i didn't really think there was anything special about that pidgeon. i think pidgeons are dirty pieces of shit. but the chances of seeing a lark or a swift on commercial rd are never really that great

but i looked and i tried to see the good in the pidgeon, and i really did, a little

then it did a shit on the ground

it went back to being a horrible pidgeon. but i thought about it some more, and i thought, when you think what idi amin did, a little birdshit on commercial rd isnt so bad

You guys are mental. Gareth OTM about ending up with the person you deserve: How do you explain people (men and women) being physically abused? What load of crap are you spewing when you say such a thing. People don't always have the personality and courage to escape an abusive relationship. One of the reasons is that they never knew anything else. So do they deserve physical or emotional abuse? No, not at all. Secondly you can't love a person who doesn't love her/himself? WTF is that for a weirdo mentality. You can love that person (again for various reasons). Some people like to take care of people (who have low self-esteeem). Look at the partners of recovered alcoholics: some can't handle that healthy person and run away.

People think of abuse as something that *suddenly* happens. No, it doesn't, it's a slow process in most cases.

Dom, you don't know the faintest thing about me, or my life.

I might have a *modicum* of sympathy for you, if you didn't constantly post the most offensively misogynistic crap on ILX. I don't use the word karmic payback lightly, but hey, you're the one who forgot to log out when anonymously posting that you frequently fantasise about punching young girls in the face.

In your case, you reap what you sow.

it's not karmic payback. kharma can only be portioned out be the cosmos.

im not really talking about inability to escape relationships, more about getting into them in the first place. and yes, bad things can happen gradually - as jessie points out upthread. there are of course cases like this, and once embroiled can be difficult to extricate. but, for most cases, people end up in similar relationships the whole time, why do you think that is?

the other thing about 'oh it wasnt obvious at beginning' was that friends, 9 times out of 10, see all the warning signs straightaway, even if you dont

Like I said, often because they don't know anything else. And secondly of course friends see this always (twenty twenty fucking hindsight) partially because they aren't the ones in LOVE. This is what you forget: it's not all abuse, the abused deeply loves that person in a fucked up way. When you fall in love, you are not thinking straight. We often do things we know aren't good for us but we do'em anyway.

but it's not hindsight if the friends are seeing it at the time and the person themselves is being naive/in denial/delusional for whatever reason.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=456502&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=&ct=5

ugh why is the photo on that page so big?

Gareth OTM about ending up with the person you deserve:

How do you explain people (men and women) being physically abused? What load of crap are you spewing when you say such a thing.

I'm sure that when Gareth used the word "deserve," he was not thinking of abuse. Of course nobody deserves abuse, that's why it's abuse. The power of words.

What I imagine he was getting at, and the part that I agree with, is that like personalities are attracted to like, and that weak, wrong, or "crazy" people often end up together. Likewise with strong, confident people.

there's a lot of 'i can fix them' thinking going on too but probably with both personalities being 'strong' in some way (you can have a strong personality but still have low self-esteem)

you can come on strong and hate yourself, believe me, i know. :)

you might even argue that all loud/visible assertiveness/defiance stems from low self-esteem or self-doubt. the truly confident don't have to broadcast it and all that.

oh, you might easily argue that.

i have no experience of revenge acts by spurned lovers unlike many people but it can often make the revenge-taker look just as bad as the person they're attacking. depends what you do and how do you it i guess. wanting other people to know about it ie trying to humiliate the other person publicly suggests that the person seeking revenge is doing this because they themselves fear this more than anything else.

interlude

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42955000/jpg/_42955893_dewanshrunk300.jpg

I think I prefer chilled-out, easy-going psychopaths, generally.

Sometimes, for some people, it takes being loved by someone else to be able to accept the good things about yourself, through being to see yourself through someone else's eyes. "I'll be your mirror, reflect what you are, in case you don't know."

yes and yes. and that's why i no longer hate myself. good can come of sadness, even.

Good thread, especially liked Lex's "people in abusive relationships usually deserve it" schtick in the middle.

this is a real 'whatever happened to...?' thread

my ex is neither crazy nor psychopathic, no fun for me ;_;

If only she could say the same about you, Louis............... JOKE!

Just because you toss a guy off Louis doesn't make him your partner.

I have exactly one psychopath ex in my past. She has a blog, which has proven illuminating to read. I show up in two entries. Apparently dating me was a big mistake.

Dom, that ball will forever hang in the air, about two yards out, with the goalkeeper lying on the ground unconscious. Why not score with a bit of style for once? Or will you forever be the Inzaghi of ILX?

What, offside?

all the inzaghi hate,.....*sigh*

darraghmac otm

I'm not saying it's ineffective, just a bit on the functional, predictable side. I see Dom as a potential Quagliarella figure. Perhaps with a bit of practice he can realise that ambition.

Dear god I am sick of the two of you.

Jagger out

_nol out

One out, all out

ban kv_nol, bring back Superpippo

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

don't go out with girls who are mates of mates.

girls at uni in another city is classic.

Shevchenko is Inzaghi's crazy psychopathic ex. More than ever, they need each other now.

http://www1.telltalestories.com/tachetastic/5th/swiss%20tony.jpg

maxr, today

kv_nol, do you hate fun football?

http://www.raisport.rai.it/pub/static/88000/20051126MilanInzaghi1wp.jpg

jesus, the loading time, make it stop.

All good things come to those who wait

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

^^^definitive max r post?

say what you like about qagu qualg qaul that other guy, he never took up my bandwidth needlessly

you've got to be a bit cold if you want to avoid psychos.

girls know this all to well.

too well

max r, get out of the refrigerator

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/images/album_images/cov200/pop/cov200/drd400/d482/d48275430a5.jpg

^^^max r theme tune

c'mon, everybody's at it.

http://www.ilsecoloxix.it/sport/foto/2007/05/28/QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ--U100640150404d9D-456x316.jpg

i'd ban the lot of you

^^^voice of reason

I bet he says that to all the girls.

Hey baby, come and take a look at my banhammer

i'm the peter sutcliffe of ILX

the post that had to be hit

Not just of ILX, I heard.

When Sutcliffe was stripped of his clothing at the police station, he was discovered to be wearing a V-neck sweater under his trousers; the arms had been pulled over his legs, so that the V-neck exposed his groin; the elbows were padded to protect his knees as, presumably, he knelt over his victims' corpses. The sexual implications of this outfit were held to be obvious, but this fact was not communicated to the public until disclosure in a book by Michael Bilton, published in 2003, called Wicked Beyond Belief: The Hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper.

Superpippo > Peter Sutcliffe > my ex

kv_nol, do you hate football?

-- Just got offed, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:48 (Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:48)

I wouldn't cross the street to say hello but I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate it. Tolerate it might be a better way of putting it.

Do you tolerate Steve Staunton, though?

No. I can't understand why he is still manager.

Nor can we. It's great! :D

hurrr hurrr! women, eh?

It is rather amusing if you're not involved. The language I've learned hearing people talking about him though... (xpost)

i only had a cursory read of the first 70 posts on this thread but gareth and matt were OTM like innit.

Yeah, well you could have Roy Keane instead, but he and the Irish FA have some sort of awkward mutual loathing, and worse, God's got a plan for him, and that plan only involves Sunderland FC...

I think Dean Kiely or Mark Kinsella are the answers, myself. Maybe both?

OK, Max R is a troll. For realz.

Sorry LJ, you're well beyond me re. Irish football.

They weren't particularly sensible suggestions, to be honest. They're both experienced Ireland footballers of the recent past, and both have captained their clubs, but the only reason I mentioned them is that they're Charlton legends. Kinsella at least is a coach nowadays, so you never know!

(the alternative, of course, is Radio 5 'analyst' and occasional midfielder Matt Holland)

Okay stop now before I get all Tuomas and start asking silly questions that everyone else on this thread knows the answers to...

where's John Aldridge these days?

Apparently he won an Irish TV singing contest a few months back

yeah he did, but he was sh1te.

ireland job- neil warnock/martin jol combo

my favourite bit of the thread
"A "boyfriend"/"girlfriend" is something that people with social skills sometimes develop"

so true and those who develop a bf/gf are to be congratulated. although sometimes you just get lucky, like nani put in an assist the other day.

nani/rooney/tevez love-triangle just waiting to happen

thriller video screenshot, quick!

which one is the psycho ex?

my sister had a boyfriend who i thought was a really well adjusted, charming, funny guy. used to go out for drinks with even when we weren't hanging around with her. turned out he was a total nutter afterwards, saying he was gonna top himself and ringing her 50 times a day. so you never know, i never would have guessed.

xpost: auld slapper

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Gonna miss this dude.

max r is slinging rock now?

Turns out dude was fake.

the smiths had some funky jams.

(there's a quote for the ban max r thread)

-- max r, T

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Sly-stone-heard-you-missed-1976.jpg

Smiths should have covered "Strokin'", that's a funk jam right there.

i had a gf once

animated?

pretty excitable, maybe

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Gonna miss this dude.

-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 16 October 2007

s'okay bud, any time you need any more serious gems of advice like this, just give me a shout.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/10/23/mills_mccartney_narrowweb__300x372,0.jpg

I don't he's so much crazy as a bit stoned most of the time.

"s'okay bud"

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

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