Where is a serious ILXor who aims to anticipate Superbad?

I want to see this just because of Michael Cera's little dance.

can't wait

so good

the dancing shadows on the movie's flash site are pretty entertaining

www.areyousuperbad.com

I eagerly await learning the fate of McLovin

yes.

The 'clean' line about mom's boobs worked better.

All the fuck about it.

ive been mentally camped out at the theater for a month

My god why hasn't someone told the kid from arrested development is in a movie.

Why isn't anyone talking about this?!

I really want to see it

he's in everything ever now

Each of those trailers have their virtues.

so good!

so filthy!

I am McLovin

Does everyone know that it was written by Evan Goldberg and Seth Rogen and the two main characters are named Seth and Evan. Sooooo cute.

Also, where is Maybe?

Also, where is Maybe Maeby?

OMG I AM WILLING TO ANTICIPATE

Does everyone know that it was written by Evan Goldberg and Seth Rogen and the two main characters are named Seth and Evan. Sooooo cute.

-- mizzell, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 1:47 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i know i love that.

it's so fucking funny. good times all around. teen sex comedy w/o any of the boring bits.

I just saw 'Knocked Up' (finally!!) today so YES I AM ANTICIPATING THIS LIKE I'VE NEVER ANTICIPATED BEFORE.

I thought Jonah Hill's (I had to look his name up on IMDB) character in Knocked Up was the funniest in the movie. So I is looking forward to this thing.

I suspect this is going to have a longer shelf life than Knocked Up (which was hilarious, but I'm not dying for the DVD release or anything).

"It's like having two cocks - if one of your cocks could kill someone."

stoked about this.

this looks way better than "knocked up"

I'm going to see this right after work. I'm so excited. How great is Jonah Hill??

McLovin is my nu god

"we should be GUIDING his cock"

"I'm so wet!"
"Yeah, they said that would happen in health class..."

massively quotable movie. so so freakin funny. And with just the right amount of American Graffiti-style bittersweetness.

i was the guy in our theatre that laughed way too loud. it was too close to home hilarious a lot. freaks and geeks is an obvious connector, but it was like sixteen candles + animal house done by that crew of people.
m.

Apart from the many many lolz, I liked the way the relationship between the two high school friends was made clear and real. I was a social outcast in high school, and I had that kind of friend as well. We were two against the world, etc. We hung out almost exclusively with each other. And we talked about sex as obsessively as these guys do (though not nearly as filthy). And yes, we loved each other, even though we were clearly headed in different directions. We got jealous of each other's girlfriends and had fights that were something approaching class conflicts, all of that. I think the movie captures that dynamic very well.

I LOVED THIS FUCKING MOVIE

all the bit players were gr8!! cocaine dudes esp! so scary! "these eyes," unbelieveable...

everybody was so effing CUTE

also loved the quote of the jungle book at the end

this was great

"these eyes," unbelieveable...

this got loud applause from the audience I was with

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Sony Pictures Entertainment"

Here comes big business, changing the internet forever. Oh well.

OK found the R-rated version - it's a slob comedy, right?

Awesome. I agree with the "These Eyes" comments. SO FUNNY. I am a little bit in love with both Cera and Hill now - they were both so so cute. McLovin is a hero.

I stayed and watched the end credits, and laughed a lot more, and that made me question my sexuality. :)

It wasn't a big laugh during the movie, but I keep chuckling thinking about how Seth explains that "something like 8% of kids do it." Like, that's what his therapist told him or something.

We were talking about that on the way out and one of my friends mentioned her old boss at the pizza place was definitely in the 8%.

In so many of these high school/college movies they get the actors to just play a type and the acting is either poor or lazy. I was kind of afraid after seeing the preview that the guy playing McLovin would just come off as a guy pretending to be really dorky, but my god, he really pulled off the intense awkwardness in a few scenes, as did all of them.

Intense awkwardness, but also a strange, totally unearned sense of self-possession. That's why he's McLovin.

"something like 8% of kids do it" was great. I totally expected it to be bed wetting and then couldn't stop laughing when he busted out with the dick drawing. The Mr. T dick was the best.

I think the tiananmen square dick was the one that got me.

I occurs to me that McLovin is not only destined to be one those unforgettable-of-all-time movie characters, like Bluto Blutarsky or the like, but that he may become a new entry into our collective vocabulary. We'll have to wait and see how people start using the word "McLovin."

I am the small cat McLovin.

when is this film set? '80s, like F&G?

ILXors love to relive hideous puberties of older comedians.

present day.

it seemed like maybe it was set around 2000 judging by the flip cell phones with long spindly antennas

but omigod so funny, i loved it!

"you scratch our backs, we'll scratch yours."

"ok, but just so you know, my back is located on my cock."

the best bit about that line is all the reactions to it. The blonde girl recoils like most girls would in the movies. The girl who likes him laughs at it in a guarded way. And he suddenly realizes that OMG THAT WAS NOT SMOOTH and tries to backtrack. Nice little moment.

ya it's got that '70s-'80s vibe, very intentionally, grain of the film and production design and all that but i think they had 'em whip out the cell phones really early on just to make it clear that it's now.

It was good, I'm still thinking about having my own handlebar moustache.

So, Martin Starr is in the movie apparently. I totally missed him. Was he one of the cocaine dudes?

Actually, the party scenes were my favorites in the movie. The period blood riff was a genius plot device at highlighting their anxiety about women.

Also good for Bill from Freaks & Geeks/girl from Undeclared cameos.

xp yes he was the cocaine dude with the long hair and the hat!

the most cocainey of the cocaine dudes (red hair, bad teeth) played a schizo on law & order a while ago

I like how they casted girls who were realistically the most (more?) attractive girls at a high school. They didn't just ask central casting for the hottest twenty year old unknown to play the dream girls. This made the attainment of the girl somewhat more plausible.

I have to admit the heavy use of 1970s soul (mainly the psychedelic soul tracks) were a bit out of place throughout the film. Was it Judd Apatow wanking and needing to insert more memories from his own high school experiences into a film? Future audiences will be confused as to what era the film was trying to be from and why they intentionally tried to have that soundtrack.

Funny film, but how long can this creative team milk the adolescent experience (either through stories about actual kids or just "grown men" who refuse to grow up)? I've only seen, at most, one other film from Apatow, etc. but the bathetic way characters and plots get wrapped up is already stale to me.

Do you want Apatow to make his next film about the inevitability of death?

Adolescents are awful, dirty people with heads full of wrong ideas, and that's a HUGE fount of comedy. It's also a great source of metaphors for ourselves as adults. What are we but kids who got bigger? And what do we DO with that? I don't think the subject is any more stale than any other big theme.

I very much admire the way he understands that these kids' ideas are WRONG, and makes that understood without obviously moralizing. He mixes filth with some solid wisdom that his favorite Rabbi would approve of, and it's something really new: the gross-out sex comedy with a brain and a heart.

Do you want Apatow to make his next film about the inevitability of death?

Yes, because that's mankind's only other option should we stop discussing sex and reminiscing about high school. And, really, why not make that the subject of an Apatow comedy?

and it's something really new: the gross-out sex comedy with a brain and a heart.

That's not new and the film just becomes maudlin towards the end. There's a big quote Entertainment Weekly put up in an interview with Apatow where he says something ridiculous about immaturity. Not only does he exalt it (which is obviously okay to an extent, especially in comedy) but added something depressing like "It's the only thing I care about" or "You should never abandon it." Really?

The movie had some hilarious lines and bits but the "depth" comes like the moralizing lesson that arrives at the end of a GI Joe episode. The characters themselves are interesting enough for a comedy film but I can't help but feel letdown every time they try to resolve everything by pandering. I'm being too harsh though, I just think his films are getting too hyped as bringing depth to the genre.

Have you seen Van Wilder? Apatow is the Bergman os the genre.

There's a big quote Entertainment Weekly put up in an interview with Apatow where he says something ridiculous about immaturity... "It's the only thing I care about" or "You should never abandon it." Really?

Yes, really. Adolescence is the furnace that adults are forged in. Forgetting it is folly.

and it's something really new: the gross-out sex comedy with a brain and a heart.
http://image.compusa.com/prodimages/7/a7d10175-8dcc-4da8-b93f-0a4304ab024e.gif

Girl from Undeclared should be in more movies.

This movie was great.

Is it really correct to call this an "Apatow film"? He has no writing or directing credit on it. To what extent did he have a creative role in the project?

he produced, and while he didn't direct, it's certainly made by the "apatow camp"

Things I said on the Chicago thread, for your edification:

I was a little underwhelmed too. I laughed a lot, but it wasn't really as complete a movie as 40-Year-Old Virgin or Knocked Up. Most of the laughs weren't really the result of the script or the jokes but were because of the reactions and the high standard of comedic acting - Michael Cera still kicks ass. I thought Seth Rogan and Bill Heder stole the movie as the incompetent cops.

I'm listening to this bootleg of one of Daft Punk's recent sets, and it's pretty awesome because it was clearly recorded from the audience. You can hear the music but it's in the background, and there's one guy standing near the mic saying things like "oh god" and "oh man, Daniel, here it comes" during the climactic build-ups. Plus lots of "woooooo!"s and cheering.

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 12:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

My fave line of Superbad: "We should be guiding his cock, not blocking it."

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 12:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

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Also: "Spin class ... farmer's market ... pumpkin patch."

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 12:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

I just read the Ebert review, which made me like the movie more. He had a good point in saying that the only reason the kids are so vulgar about sex is that they don't really know anything about it.

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 3:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

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Which makes their vulgarity kind of sweet.

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 3:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

Evan's attitudes towards women in the movie were embarassingly close to my own in high school (and still now, to some extent).

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 3:59 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

some of the reviews i've read have knocked the film for its visuals, saying it's basically unobtrusive, workmanlike, like tv, etc.

but i thought the film looked great! compared to other teen fare (mean girls, for ex, had a way flatter and more sitcommy feel), there was way more detail and richness. i mean, the day scenes had tons of sunlight, the night scenes were really dark and close.

The Daft Punk bootleg stuff was just a little bonus n/a for you.

I think my favorite line was "prepare to be fucked by the long dick of the law."

The cops + Fogel definitely stole the show. They should have credited his character as McLovin in the closing credits.

"oh no, it's the cops" <-- this cracked me up

I should really just stick to one of these threads:

I hate it when you can tell when a joke from the preview is coming up in the movie, because people always laugh louder at jokes that were in the preview, but it's like a forced laugh, because everyone knows what's going to happen.

-- n/a, Monday, August 20, 2007 4:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

"Spin class ... farmer's market ... pumpkin patch."

This was the best line.

I hate it when you can tell when a joke from the preview is coming up in the movie, because people always laugh louder at jokes that were in the preview, but it's like a forced laugh, because everyone knows what's going to happen.

At the screening I went to I felt people laughed at the jokes from the previews less than they would have if they were fresh. There were a whole bunch of lines that got much bigger laughs than anything from the preview.

same here

absolutely pitch-perfect throughout.

the people who made (or even laughed at) that shit-stain American Pie movie really need to be taking notes.

Adolescence is the furnace that adults are forged in. Forgetting it is folly.

^^^^^ the exact moment i stopped wanting to see this movie.

don't worry, it's still plenty funny despite my hi-fallutin BS

the people who made (or even laughed at) that shit-stain American Pie movie really need to be taking notes.

-- will, Monday, August 20, 2007 4:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

fuk u

ok. but it's true.

american pie is funny, ap2 is funny, ap3 is suprisingly funny, apatow movies are funny, the mclovin kid is funny, its all good

ya i like american pie! and it's also vulgar-but-sweet, people seem to think apatow invented that.

ending of ap2 is sweetest of all the 00s teen movie shit

saw american wedding in the theater & laughed a lot - was unsure if id still be feeling it 4 yrs but it came on tnt or fx or something and it was great

(xpost)When Stifler's mom drives up and she and Finch run off together?

sorry to knock Am Pie dudes, I just didn't laugh. Those kids in it weren't funny or endearing to me at all. Maybe laughed at stifler(?) 2X.

Also, only saw 1 and part of Am Wedding.

haha

i think ap2 is the funniest but im tired of it now

and finch & jim are relatable as fuck!! sorry they werent on arrested development or whatever

has jason biggs only been in like 6 movies ever?

He was awful in that awful Woody Allen film. I wouldn't give him work.

ehh i never saw that

i actually liked that movie, but yeah, biggs was terrible

He was in that touching lost huskies movie with the guy from Fast & the Furious apparently. I hope he played the guy that wanted the dogs to die.

Apparently someone named Moon Bloodgood was in that movie too!!??!?!

Biggs (and forehead girl) are SO BAD in that Woody Allen movie. May be the worst Woody Allen film I've ever seen, largely due to their horrible lack of acting skills.

Celebrity is pretty terrible too.

Biggs was in a romantic comedy with Mena Suvari where she's fucking her professor and he's a broke hick or something. It was even worse than Anything Else.

he seems to star opposite a lot of large foreheads

American Pie is so good. Superbad had lots of amazing dialog. Not sure which I would prefer (don't really need to choose though - they're both funny).

proper Superbad comparison is Can't Hardly Wait

Celebrity is pretty terrible too.

ah but scene with Bebe Neuwirth learning how to fellate a banana = film redeemed!

Biggs was in a romantic comedy with Mena Suvari where she's fucking her professor and he's a broke hick or something. It was even worse than Anything Else.

-- milo z, Monday, August 20, 2007 6:32 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

loser was the shit u dummy

Well, Can't Hardly Wait pales by comparison (although it's cute and sometimes charming). American Pie was pretty spotty, and the sequels were terrible.

biggs/suvari/kinnear remake of the apartment

cant hardly wait is good but not very funny

biggs/suvari/kinnear remake of the apartment

-- and what, Monday, August 20, 2007 2:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

^^ through the looking glass here ppl

so many kinds of wrong

altho Kinnear could definitely do Fred McMurray, I can see that

date rapist fratboys in apartment-using bosses role

stephen wright cameo

Goofs
* During a fight with Dora, Professor Alcot says that he is sure Betty Friedan "would applaud your little epiphany" if she were still alive, but Betty Friedan did not die until 2006, 6 years after the film's release.

stephen wright cameo

as doctor next door I assume...

recommend everybody rent this shit

In 2006, Biggs was seen in the MTV reality show Blowin' Up with Jamie Kennedy and Stu Stone and was for the most part viewed as the antagonist, creating a beef of sorts with Kennedy and Stone. However, when Kennedy and Stone had a minor feud, Stone befriended Biggs, leading Stone to record a hip-hop diss record against Kennedy entitled "F*** Jamie Kennedy". The song featured Bay Area rap artist E-40 and Biggs himself.

Looking at the IMDB page for Superbad I noticed that the girl McLovin hooks up with is known simply as "Aviva" in real life. That's kinda awesome.

I think what always put me off about American Pie is that the characters are playing to some made-up or exaggerated type, and none of them really seemed like believable high school kids. Not that Superbad was completely true to life (especially with the amazingly awesome cop wish fulfillment scenes), but I definitely felt more empathy with the three main characters than I have with a lot of high school / college kid movies.

maybe you shouldnt watch movies

ok guys can't hardly wait is a terrible, terrible movie.

Nah, I like a lot of goofy high school/college kid films, it's just really nice when they're actually played by actors that aren't in their mid-20s

michael: "that was a nightmare."
clark: "i mean it was going alright until you lost it in there."
michael: "how did i lose it?!"
clark: "no, what the hell was that?"
michael: "what, me having a backbone? and principles?"
clark: "all i said was that we should consider getting a name actor to play the michael character and you lost it! you could have just humored them."
michael: "ok well what was it with you saying 'let's get the kutch onboard'?"
clark: "hey -- THEY brought up ashton, not me."
michael: "yeah well what if i brought up that guy from american pie, what's his name, the curly haired guy."
clark: "i don't know his name." (aside, to the camera) "can we even say names like this? i don't need another lawsuit right now."
michael: "JASON BIGGS!!" (muttering) "sue me you cocksucker, earn your first dollar in seven years."

can't really say i enjoyed the latter-day american pies or loser.

JUST SAW THIS. "GHOSTBUSTERS LUNCHBOX DICK TREASURE TROVE"!!!

Fogle why were you smoking with those cops?
BECAUSE I'M BADASS.

I think I remembered that wrong. Whatever.

A family in my row had to walk out halfway through the LUNCH PAIL O DICKS scene - I guess they hadn't realized this R-rated comedy wasn't suitable for their two 8-year olds.

admittedly, it's above and beyond even most r-rated comedies

they could have read a review or something, though. Didn't every critic in the country use some variant of the phrase "non-stop raunch"?

It's odd how the quasi-pornographic nature of the internet has caused a titanic expansion in a subculture that is so numb to raunch like the content in Superbad that they can't relate to people who are that shocked by the movie. I think just a few years ago there was more consensus about what is taboo (even if you ignored and broke said stigmas) what wasn't. Now it seems there's more confusion. Mainstream papers make the "gross factor" the film's main topic of conversation while people on the net seem much less likely to talk about. Is it just me?

I just saw this in a theater packed full of students from a large state university. The Orson Wells reference got laughs from maybe three people. The line about going to a state school where the "chicks are twice as dumb and therefore twice as likely to fellate me" got massive guffaws. Hey, we are slutty!

I thought this was way better than Knocked Up, which was strangely the last movie I saw in a theater.

Also, how long until a photo appears on the internet of someone with a tattoo of one of the penis drawings?

The truth tattoo is out there.

I like the slim-pickens-riding-the-bomb penis. That's tattoo-worthy. Just not on me.

This was a funny movie with a lotta heart to it, but I think the female characters needed their own movie.

LOL @ Caesar Dick

wasn't there a he-man dick

or maybe it was incredible hulk

that shit had me rolling

i seen superbad last nite lolololololololololololololololol

OMG I FORGOT ABOUT GEORGE MICHAEL SINGING "THESE EYES" TO COKEHEADS LOLLERGASAM

sing for us ... LIKE A BIRD

lol at egyptian dance while singing these eyes

scene was transcendent as were many others A+++++++++++++++

drunk girl trying to fuck george michael entire steez especially the strip tease section oh and ive got a present for you in here duh nuu duuu nuu nuu lolololololololol

i want see again

SO many funny lines!

"you don't want to make girls think you suck dick at fucking pussy."

"be cool. she likes you. she wants to suck on your penis."

"nobody's gotten a blowjob in cargo shorts since nam."

"look at those nipples. they're like little baby toes."

"yeah, i, uh, have your information."

i want to marry this movie.

you want to blow this movie

'I have a condom... and lube...'

spermicidal lube

surprised they didn't go for an anal joke there

Always leave something for the sequel.

as funny as this movie was I can't help but think a sequel would probably be tremendously awful, with one of the main three cast members leaving and being replaced, a horrific plot taking place at a college...ugh.

It's ironic that a sequel would probably be better if they waited ten to fifteen years.

Really enjoyed it, for most of the reasons listed above, but it's no Knocked Up; it's about 20 minutes too long. He's getting more explicit about his homoerotica. It's the small quirks that count: they're hung over after the party, but not hung over enough to avoid hanging out with each other.

The actors were a treasure, especially Cera; didn't know whether to lust for him or treat him like a little brother (is he 40?).

The strip mall where they buy the booze was scarily realistic: the tatty wood exteriors, parking lot, the key shop out front, etc...

It was hard to believe that this was the same guy who directed The Daytrippers.

The Daytrippers - it was? That's really strange. I had no idea.

Solid high school party movie -- a fine contribution to the genre

my roommate has said "suck dick at fucking pussy" approx. 900,000 times since we saw this on thurs.

i dunno what it says that this and inland empire are my two favorite movies that i have seen in the last year

I thought the McLovin character kind of sucked, and I could have lived with about half as much of the cop stuff.

I thought the Don Coreleone character kind of sucked, and I could have lived with about half as much of the mafia stuff.

not really

McLovin & cops = side plot taken way too far

Yeah, if only they could have had someone who fucking knows something about comedy work on this movie.

BLOW J

"but it's no Knocked Up; it's about 20 minutes too long."

qtf?

ok i was reminded about the 'i have your information' parting scene and totally need to watch this xthousand more times.

ok sorry also VAGTASTIC VOYAGE

as a canadian i do not know how i feel about hot quasi-slutted-out emily of new moon but i think i feel positively. although even though she was barfy drunk and gross and so was cera's character the fact that they BOTH managed to come off as adorably innocent was pretty amazing. AND THEN THEY BOTH NEEDED COMFORTERS AWW.

also, i loved that closing shot

i wanted to watch this again immediately after leaving the theater

hurting is right though re:mclovin/cop sideplot.

actually what is right is remove the entire period blood sequence...i think i was convinced the movie is overall only about 75/25 good, but the 75% portion is SO GOOD.

This was a funny movie with a lotta heart to it, but I think the female characters needed their own movie.

There's your sequel - crossover-style a la Rosencrantz & Gildenstern Are Dead.

Jonah Hill is so much better in this than he was in Grandma's Boy, and he was really really good in Grandma's boy.

haha I was just flipping past Grandma's Boy the other day and the wife and I were like "wtf is that really the guy from Superbad"? Cuz he looks taller/fatter/older in it for some reason

Goldberg's cut scene from Knocked Up about Brokeback Mountain is teh awesome

tru

Got free tickets to see this tomorrow night. Really looking forward to it after reading this thread.

This is the funniest film I've ever seen. Laughed from start to finish. I haven't got a bad thing to say about it.

oh yeah i saw this the past weekend. i haven't seen a teenage sex comedy in a decade, but i'm sure it stacks up well with the best of them. funny stuff.

a lot of this movie was won in the casting. michael cera is great, though we all know him through arrested development. the actors that are his two friends were completely unknown to be, i don't see many current movies.

jonah hill is great, i imdbed him and i guess he claims he got his start in that huckabees movie i never saw. i kind of doubt this, there was something so familiar about his face, i couldnt put my finger on it. then the other day i realized what i knew him from.. a disturbing movie poster seared into my brain.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9516/biggreen60888yq1.jpg

he's trying to hide from his past.

that's not him. do all fat kids look alike to you or something?

haha
man, having some LOL-he-got-hit-in-the-balls bits in a trailer is pretty commonplace, but i don't think i've ever seen the promotional art for a movie focus on this timeless cornerstone of comedy

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That's Patrick Renna.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0719606/

i think i like clark & michael better than this movie.

On here some dudes seem to think that Pineapple Express is greater than Superbad.

(I'm v much looking forward to seeing both)

I like imagining him opening all those beers to fill that detergent container.

I can't think of any other time a period blood stain has made an appearance in a movie.

Great acting, all around. None of the characters were easily discarded nobodies (except maybe the drunk bum in the bar). I loved seeing the liquor store guy at the party later. The silliness/dorkiness of the cops was played so well off their utter crookedness.

I loved the line "you'll meet her"

I think it really captured that teenage feeling of over-intense drama - like the bottle of Gold Schlager being the most important item in the world - getting alcohol that night being the most important thing in the world that would make or break their future - the weight of every little comment exchanged between boys and girls.

I second kenan's remark about the great combination of awkwardness and self-possession. They were all so sure of themselves in an interesting way.

Just saw this last night and loved it. That is all.

"

THIS FILM

and guys the sideplot was PERFECT. the whole point of a sideplot, going back to the likes of ben jonson, is to provide a lighter, wackier, not quite so 'deep' or moving but equally funny take on the main storyline, occasionally intersecting with it but remaining largely independent. i believe shakespeare had a thing for comedy constables.

michael cera is probably one of the 5 best comic actors in the world and he's younger than me for goodness' sake. and he's so so so lovable! the other dude had believable charm; not every line worked, but the ones that mattered did.

the wish-fulfilment ending is no less than the protagonists deserved. those girls were both hot and realistic. nothing was TOO far-fetched. nothing was (particularly) overplayed. it wasn't 'the making of a legend' (see: Road Trip, American Pie etc), it was the exploration of friendship.

srsly, one of the great bildungsroman movies.

I think the tiananmen square dick was the one that got me

Totally

The cops were faintly intimidating as well as being funny, a bunch of people in the cinema audibly gasped in sympathy when Jesse got his skull cracked with a nightstick at the end. There wasn't much Evil Jock presence at all after the spitting incident at the start so it was kind of excessive in terms of karma.

Also: Evan being ordered to pay attention to the football game and listlessly muttering "uh...kick it towards me" or something

http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/My_New_Family_Member/28418

My New Family Member
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We went to see it last night. Oh yes.

omg how much do i love this movie

laughed and enjoyed it

Greg Oden looks like he's ready for Social Security.

still haven't seen it!

i sent a friend who hadnt seen it b/c of "low on funds" excuse a check for $9 with "vagtastic voyage in the subject line!

voyage" close quote

still haven't seen it!

rw, it's at the logan, i saw it last night, EASILY WORTH THE PRICE OF ADMISSION. had i been a little tipsy or maybe had a dugout with me for the walk from the el it might have been too much funny.

rw you will love it i think

I thought the McLovin character kind of sucked, and I could have lived with about half as much of the cop stuff.

-- Hurting 2, Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:48 PM (Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:48 PM) Bookmark Link

you must have eaten a couple of crazy-steaks for dinner because you don't make any sense. you are so far from being OTM that i think i'd need cyrillic letters to describe what you are.

omg lol 'semen database'

i think this is going to take me 3 days to watch

or the next 90 min

evan painting his home-ec partner's face to look like a cat.

"full throttle... charlie's angels 2"

"no one's gotten a hand job wearing cargo shorts since 'Nam."

my fundie coworker went to see this and walked out after 10 minutes. i am trying to get him fired for this.

<i>evan painting his home-ec partner's face to look like a cat.</i>

The funniest part of this was the cat-partner licking his hands and grooming himself.

"So, are you guys on Myspace?"

Even funnier because of how much creepy dude looked like John Sessions.

he was really good

I thought it was very funny but the thing I didn't get was that the guys in the movie were supposed to be 18 but they acted like 14-15 year olds in the way they approach/think/talk about sex.

a lot of 18 year olds act like 14-15 year olds in the way the approach/think/talk about sex.

especially 18 year old virgins.

lol maebe's 'the 14-year-old virgin' in AD.

yeah I know, but it still bugged me for some reason. not in a major way, but it's just not the way people I know used to act when we were in that age(not long ago btw). it might be a cultural thing too...

the two opposing viewpoints or approaces projected— one guy who will do anything for sex, will have sex with anyone, is fearless in his quest to lose his virginity and the other guy who also wants to lose his virginity but wants to do it w/ the right girl and when she's ready— really just work well for that type of movie. it distinguishes the two characters pretty blatantly— and since those two groups (or ideals) are pretty abstract, it gives the audience a choice as to which character they want to identify with— and it also puts a natural tension into a relationship (best friends) that by nature shouldn't be very tense.

I was pretty much like the skinny one in approach, only I didn't get the girl at all.

finally saw this, and it was even more hilarious than I had been led to believe. much more bittersweet than I expected, though.

totally underrated moment: McLovin's "... I got a boner!"

I wasn't that impressed by this movie or any of the other one's by that guy...

Maybe, I'll like it better when I inevitably see it again...

The "I'd really enjoy doing something like that" "Oh, who wouldn't?" scene was serious regretful flashback material.

The only scene I wish they cut was that emo argument one before Jonah gets hit by the cops.

this is a movie that maybe 2-3 years ago I'd have hated, but I loved every penis-joking minute of it.

Nothing made me laugh harder than the scene where all of the drawings of penises are flying by on screen and the one with teh giant penis at Tiananmen Square appeared

i really thought jonah was exaggerating on the commentary abt the hollywood reporter review but:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film/reviews/article_display.jsp?&rid=9592

brief summary - he wanted jonah and mike cera to gay out at the end as the "logical conclusion" looool

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^^^ make yr own!

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That holywood reporter review is so completely out of the ballpark. I have trouble buying that it's just a movie about "underage kids itching to get booze and have sex" when the Seth character keeps going on about how hooking up is part of some bizarre plan to get him ready to become some sort of experienced guy by the time he gets to college and Evan is all apprehensive and social.

hurting is right though re:mclovin/cop sideplot.

-- sleep, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:48 (3 months ago) Link

great movie but the cops were a bit much after a while

Just saw this the other night. Eh. The only part I actually giggled at was Jonah Hill at the very end of the movie in the mall trying on tight jeans and making "college poses."

All the crap on the dvd is amusing, especially Jonah Hill cursing so much that Judd Apatow(and his daughter) leaves

jaymc, that was the only scene I wish they'd cut. Wasn't going nowhere.

Jonah Hill is awful but McLovin', Hader, and Cera redeem the thing.

How do you square yourselves with the sexism... just ignore it?

is it sexist?

i think the "perioded on my leg" scene is less sexist if you grok that it's carla gallo.

plus, i'm not sure how a 17-year-old loudmouth dude in a comedy is meant to react to what happens there that could make it un-sexist.

obv you could not have it happen at all -- or just be like a more serious director like PTA or the coens and not have any women in yr film.

My sexism radar is totally proxy: I lolled like a drain at this and enjoyed it but... my girlfriend (who did watch it to the end to her credit) was less enamoured. I'm not exactly sure why but my hunch is that it was due to the sexism and - probably to a larger extent - the crudity, which I have a larger tolerance for.

I don't want to get all dictionary.com on definitions of sexism but even to me - not tuned to picking it up - most of it did seem pretty out there.

Carla Gallo is... a relation of Vincent.semen.co.uk.Gallo?

i don't think so. but she was in 'undeclared' so the scene feels more like a "star cameo" than it would if played by a random hottie in 'van wilder: party liaison'.

it's definitely crude, especially the first 10 mins, but i'm not usually into crudeness tbh. a lot of girls i know wouldn't have liked it. i thought the two female characters in it were strong though.

No, she's an "Undeclared" alum (which she was awesome in; and she was one of the carny strippers in "Carnivale." And she was the kid with a crush on Daniel Faraday in "Spanking the Monkey")... (x-post)

I love all of the scenes of Michael Cera losing his cool and cracking up at Jonah Hill's ad-libs on the "Superbad" DVD. The one where Hill starts talking about Evan's mom's 'Hershey Kiss Nips' is particularly hilarious... his eyes going wide as he loses it are classic.

T/F: This film bears many, many resemblances to House Party

OK, granted, Michael Cera never avoids prison rape by rapping about AIDS until he makes bail

wow i loved it, i knew i would and i did. cuts to the heart of some things without ever dragging, everybody's timing is killer, soundtrack is great. the cop stuff was kinda just, off-putting after a while though it was reasonably funny.

I didn't think it was sexist.

Watched this on Sunday night for the first time since seeing it in the cinema; thoroughly enjoyed it once again. My girlfriend also adores it, so I'm not buying the sexism angle.

The cop stuff was less credulity testing second time around. The opening dialogue re; porn sites was more annoying, though.

it got distracting, i think is what i meant about the cop stuff. a small thing really.

Maybe "sexist" is going a bit far, but they treated all the female characters in this movie like shit.

I know, I know... they wrote it when they were teenagers, blah blah blah. Would it have killed them to have developed at least one female character worth caring about?

Like every Judd Apatow related thing I've seen I thought it was amiable and enjoyable, but not all that funny.

they treated all the female characters in this movie like shit

I think they (being the two or three main characters) treated all the female characters with complete incomprehension. Which I think was the idea. I did not come away thinking that even the Jonah character was going to grow up to treat women shitty. Seriously, the first time he gets into any kind of relationship whatsoever with a real-life female, the first thing he's going to have is shock, with awe following close behind. He needs a few smacks upside his head, but he'll get 'em, and turn out ok. And anyway the movie is not about the girls, it's about the guys. One of the main points of the movie is how guy-centric their whole world is, how each-other-centric, how goddamn GAY they really are for each other. And you know, that's what it's like when you're a dork in high school, and you have one best friend, and both of you are still scared of girls. It's okay in this movie that the girls are the other. It only makes sense.

And also the movie didn't treat them like shit even if (and it's a big if) the characters do.

i didn' think this movie was sexist, and i laughed a ton, especially at the period scene!

The characters don't treat women like shit; they talk about women in objectifying terms TO EACH OTHER, but when actually confronted with women at any stage of real events, they either collapse (the headbutt) or become chivalrous (the non-event seduction). There are no fully-developed female characters in the film because a; there are very few fully-developed characters AT ALL, and b; the movie is, bar cop sub-plot, exclusively about Seth & Evan, neither of whom are girls.

Yeah, that. They're they're not full developed characters by adult standards because part of the character is that there is not a fully developed adult personality behind it. The cops are funny like that. They're kids, too, but they have no excuse.

The characters don't treat women like shit; they talk about women in objectifying terms TO EACH OTHER, but when actually confronted with women at any stage of real events, they either collapse (the headbutt) or become chivalrous (the non-event seduction).

Yeah, this is key and one of this movie's biggest strengths over other movies about teenage boys; it acknowledges that even the sensitive nerdy guys that aren't getting any still obsess over sex and say disgusting shit about girls to each other.

^ thank you

people calling apatow movies sexist when they are so obviously so much better about that stuff than pretty much 99% of all comedies out there baffles me

this one had a shot at actually being good (since the 3 kids were good and Mottola can actually direct), til the Rogen & Mediocre SNL Guy cop shit stopped it cold. No excuse for being longer than 90 mins. **

i laughed a ton, especially at the period scene!

just boring "sensitive" Seth Rogen humor to me, i guess

"the thing I didn't get was that the guys in the movie were supposed to be 18 but they acted like 14-15 year olds in the way they approach/think/talk about sex."

The devolution of North American youth raised in the Rogen/Apatow cultural environment

the cow says "moo"

The DVD version of this was so superior to the screen version. Weirdly, it seems they cut out a lot of character development (i.e., Jules and Seth's early Home Ec patter), but left the raunch mostly intact for the theater release. That says a lot about demographic targeting these days.

Also - the DVD commentary where Greg Mottola brings his TEN-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER to the studio, and then makes Jonah Hill and the others censor themselves for her sake is extra hilarity. Jonah HIll is just fuming in his seat for half of it and then just starts going off w/ double barrels of curses, and Mottola get's pissed and storms out the door in the middle of the film, daughter in tow, leaving the cast to talk sh!t about him behind his back for the remainder.

i watched the theatrical version on DVD. Even longer, I'da died.

Adventureland?

aw

who is the lead kid? poor man's michael cera?

kid from squid + whale.

kid + the whale

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Really enjoyed it, for most of the reasons listed above, but it's no Knocked Up

My wife and I saw this for the first time this weekend and both of us thought it was way way way WAY better than "Knocked Up".

Yes, it took me a while to see Superbad, and having seen Knocked Up again since (and then watching Superbad like four more times) I think SB holds up a lot better.

It helps that the ancillary characters in "Superbad" aren't wholly repellent douches.

what, you wkiw the cops in Superbad?

If I were a teen? Maybe. (They would buy me beer!)

The cops in "Superbad" were much less repellent than Seth Rogan's friends and Katherine Heigl's family in "Knocked Up".

Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann are the best part of Knocked Up, who cares if their characters would be 'repellent' as IRL people

that's the fastest volte-face I've seen in a while

"adventureland" is great - roughly as good as "superbad," but considerably less of a straight-up comedy.

lol yeah i was like if i'm gonna be a hypocrite i'm gonna shotgun it

i really liekd adventureland, saw it this morning. not LOL hilariosu but a really nice gentle comedy

hahaha

I liked "Knocked Up" (and I thought Rudd/Mann were much funnier than Rogan's friends) but I spent much more of the movie wanting to throttle the supporting cast than I did laughing at them. I think the extra laye of unrealistic ridiculousness in the cops' behavior helped me handwave their toolishness in support of the comedy rather than working against it.

the cops are fuckin awesome in superbad

"MCLOVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" lol

"we should be guiding his cock, not blocking it"

are you being sarcastic cuz ya that line is hilarious

I am not being sarcastic at all! I loved the cops!

ok cool :D

they were funny, i just think they came off more repellent and douchey than KU's standard issue stoner cru

(I am willing to concede on a rational level that the "tooliness" I'm very mildly complaining about in "Knocked Up" also exists in "Superbad, but due to the setting it makes more sense and didn't get in the way of me enjoying the movie.)

well they played obnoxious cops xp

the MAIN characters in Knocked Up are more repellent than the repellent ancillary characters!

ehhhhhh.

superbad is so far beyond the rest of the apatowiverse

btw slocki a nice gentle non hilarious comedy wtf exactly u trying to say

I dunno it's more of a coming of age type movie.. kind of thing I would have dug when I was a kid or something

its not like yuk a minute but it is funny

I can't stand the cops in Superbad, but without them you'd have really awesome 50-minute movie. I've liked Rogen less with each movie.

*a really awesome

gals rlly need to watch out for guys who obsess over this shit

who obsesses over this shit besides you

see above. who the fuck remembers what Heigl's family was like in KU, if you gave it its one appropriate viewing?

i saw it once and i remember - aside from the leads they were the biggest part of the movie

all i see above is people shooting the shit about a movie... talking about the parts they liked... i guess in your mind it's like supernerds feverishly discussing minutiae but really... it's not

Supernerd

http://www.down-south.com/images/covers/mixtapes/LilBoosie-Superbad.jpg

who the fuck remembers what Heigl's family was like in KU, if you gave it its one appropriate viewing?

who the fuck remembers the second most prominent character in a movie, you fucking nerds?

srsly morbz, the Paul Rudd freaking out on mushrooms in Vegas scene and Paul Rudd sneaking out to play fantasy football/gridiron thing are written as much more significant parts of the movie (esp for what they signify to Rogen's "character journey") than anything involving Heigl. except maybe Heigl at work, that was good and actually about her, rather than her reacting to/affecting Rogen.

(gave this one viewing in the cinema, haven't seen since)

lol morbs

McLovin' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else I've ever seen in any Apatow movie

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Boop!

shades of ustinov imo

He'll be great in "The Chris Penn Story".

haha

I had a dream once that I was staying at friends' house in LA and we were hanging/partying out with Jonah Hill and Jason Schwartzmann but something went wrong and Jonah died of a heart attack and we were all freaked out and didn't want anybody to know he had died or we would get blamed for it so we threw his body in the bathtub with a bunch of ice, which then froze over so he looked like frozen Han Solo in Empire and then we had to keep all the other party guests out of the bathroom lest they discover that we had accidentally murdered Jonah Hill. I forget how it ended.

the night after my wife and I went to see Get Him to the Greek and there were TWO previews with Jonah Hill in it and I was like "aaaaahhhhhhhhh Jonah Hill is haunting me!"

superbadly

i didn' think this movie was sexist, and i laughed a ton, especially at the period scene!

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tee hee

Overrated movie IMO.

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He's one of those people that looks better fat.

This movie is an incel touchstone.