Sex and the City: The Movie THE THREAD

the premiere is the day after tomorrow at Radio City. what the EFF am i gonna wear.

is LAG,BS your date?

who?? don't get all smart with me, this is exciting, and you knwo it is

=P

If this movie and the Indiana Jones one had traded plots, we would be living in paradise.

"we" = not me

:)

although sjp in an indiana jones movie would be funny. she'd take it really seriously.

SPOILER: annoying unrealistic rich women are annoying, unrealistic and rich.

ha

that was SUCH A FUCKING ORIGINAL OBSERVATION

:-) love ya

WANT THIS

http://www.tvshowsondvd.net/graphics/news3/SquarePegs_Compl_early.jpg

I hear the plot of this movie is just American History X with the names changed.

That's true and here is all the gory plot details (spoilers) (nsfw).

square pegs!! i want too

omg her face

the devo episode of square pegs is (or was) on youtube

i'm seeing this in 50 minutes.

sad story.

Turns out it's a remake of Steel Magnolias.

u know i'm down

you'll like it.

:)

it's basically like watching half a season in one go, or one big super-sized episode.

Is it really a remake of Steel Magnolias? Because I cannot be dealing with that shit right now. I may need to drink before hand if this is true.

yes. same script, shot-for-shot remake.

you might want to take a flask of cosmos with you.

one must drink before watching this movie.

omg you are such a samantha, girlfriend.

you're so wrong! i am definitely a hybrid of Carrie and Charlotte. hate me now!!

he can't, cause he just revealed that he knows the characters' names!

=P

omg u guyz, it's good

how many of the 140 minutes are good? I'd believe 25.

no this is very wrong

Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Sexual City

the new york magazine article articulated what i felt. i'm not going to type it out now because i'm lazy. the wedding scene was awsome. sjp was great ;)

Indiana Jones and the Meatpacking District Brunch

guys they were all like, 10 feet away from me last night. it was lovely.

That's about as close as I would get.

I can't wait till the ads for this movie come down. Having to look at SJP's snout and having to be reminded of this annoying show constantly makes my commute that much more annoying.

:/

i want one in my bedroom

aw, i'm glad you got to go to the premier surmounter. didn't some woman pay like $20k for tickets?

omgosh it was ridiculous. people were offering thousands on the street! and of course it was pouring, so i was drenched by the time i got in but no matter ;)

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/aftermath.php

"Taliban recruitment film"

lol

i liked it

i mean, if you dont like the show, the argument is hardly worth bothering to have.

wow, Wells being genuinely funny! Even better than what he wrote the other day:

A Fandango survey of 2800 Sex and the City ticket-buyers reports that (a) 94% are women, (b) 67% plan to see it with a group of women; (c) 16% of the female respondents said they are going with a single woman friend; and (d) 6 % said they were going with a man. (I feel sorry for those guys.)

Dom Passantino SPOILER WARNINGS: Carrie revealed as holocaust denier, Miranda kicks a dog to death. 51m ago

SPOILER: The characters are all still whining shitheads at the end of the movie.

omgosh it was ridiculous. people were offering thousands on the street! and of course it was pouring, so i was drenched by the time i got in but no matter ;)

-- Surmounter, Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

u didnt sell yr ticket wtf man

ayo surmounter matt drudge is calling u out homie!

http://i30.tinypic.com/34pcs2d.jpg

she kept twirling her skirt like that, it was so cute. her dress was awesome! very little mermaid

i KNOW it would have been good to sell the ticket but look, it was a freak thing i got to see it at all

well i admire yr moxie and lack of fiscal responsibility then

silver's not a good color for her skin tone.

http://www.nypress.com/21/22/summerguide/summerguide1.cfm

Armond is still worth a read every now and again.

she likes to make those fashion choices that are a lot about statement and maybe not enough about sense/skin tone =P

Sur, you know we love you, but ppl WERE OFFERING THOUSANDS FOR A TICKET TO A MOVIE OF A TV SITCOM ABOUT MANOLOS AND YOU DIDNT SELL!?!?!

guys this was ONCE IN A LIFETIME

howd u get the tix

she doesn't get that the impact of the statement would be so much greater if she knew how to color appropriately.

Eric approvingly links to a review lionizing Irene Dunne?

my friend she works for the producer guy. the seats were so great. ogeez i'm actually seeing this again tonight, cuz we had already bought these tix w/ friends b4 i found out about the ON. drunk viewing!

yea i getcha teh... that dress, tho, it was a different color in different lighting. odd.

Well, more Joan Crawford. (xpost)

god, Armond: Like the TV series, Sex and the City never acknowledges that it’s about the benefits of being a middle-class, white New Yorker.

YR KIDDING!

I only have one pair of Manolos. I am clearly underprivileged, below average middle class white ex-NYer.

ya, they really try to hide that
xp

yeah i guess my lack of designer shoes and driver make me destitute?

yeah but it's also just a fashion show, it's not supposed to be very real

grain of salt ppl

MIDDLE-class???

this one made me larf:

For one thing, (on the series) Sarah Jessica Parker dressed like somebody's eight-year-old daughter; when she had sex, I felt as though I was watching child molestation.

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0822,sex-and-the-city-plotless-and-pointless,451763,20.html

by adam parfrey

Haha!

MIDDLE-class???

srsly

samantha bee on the daily show just described it as "no exit with feathered hats."

I think only charlotte is really new york upper class and she married into it.

Charlotte's family is rich (not super-rich), while Harry is comfortably upper middle class. I would guess Miranda makes more money than he does, but who knows. Samantha grew up working class, but does pretty well as a business owner. Carrie is not making the big bucks, but gets lots of stuff for free.

SatC covers its bases.

jesus christ this movie seems so incredibly irrelevant

It gives zeitgeist a bad name.

That said, I'm not sure whether I'm more depressed by the sheer number of IMDB fanboys rating this one a 1 or the number that rate Shawshank Redemption a 10.

i don't care about satc, but there's an awful lot of plain old eww-girlz-cooties in the haterating. the movie can't be objectively dumber, shallower or more beholden to mammon than most of the rest of the hollywood summer.

i wonder if the reception would be different if hillary had won.

^ this.

whatever, it's a light romcom. satc (the show, but hte movie too) at least has the virtue of being way better written than most of the examples of its genre. irrelevant? really? talk about a use other criticisms pls situation.

i mean next to MADE OF HONOR this is like lubitsch

I could imagine this being way better than Lubitsch.

you could?

don't know why i'm going to the mat for this one, i guess this sort of kneejerk hateration always kind of gets on my nerves esp when it's pretty undeserved.

sex and the city is so fucking lame and corny.

Where's my Golden Girls movie? Now there's a fucking show...

liked it. lolled at the skanks in the audience (saw it @ universal citywalk, so we got all the valley trash, all dolled up like their favorite characters) (it was a young crowd, surprisingly cougar-free).

am i the only one who finds the miranda-steve storyline REALLY BORING? i mean, i've always thought miranda was a boring character, and it's a shame that the writers never put in more lawyer/feminist stuff for her to do. at least samantha still gets to be the headstrong career woman.

i thought the writing was great, all the predictability and potty humor aside. slocki's right, this is pretty far from being what happens in vegas, or the traveling pants franchise, or any number of other turkeys i could name.

i don't think bushnell is really that much of a feminist. miranda-steve is the axis of realism in a fantasy-oriented show, which may make you notice that they're underwritten more than the other characters do. cynthia nixon is one of only two native new yorkers in the cast (the other is evan handler as harry g).

sjp's not native but she's lived in and around nyc since she was a kid

Manohla Dargis: The writing is el stink-o.

what would bitter new yorkers do without satc to hate?

saw it again last night, the audience seemed to like it/find it slightly absurd. i got everyone clapping.

i get to choose b/w seeing this & indiana jones tomorrow

so conflicted NOT

right even tho indy is gonna BLOW.

wedding scene still a killer

a 53 on Metacritic, and LOL Ebert:

I am not the person to review this movie. Perhaps you will enjoy a review from someone who disqualifies himself at the outset, doesn’t much like most of the characters and is bored by their bubble-brained conversations.

man do i ever love that guy

like s1ocki et al, i just don't understand why it's such a big deal. omgs ppl in a movie/tv show are unrealistic?!?!?! yeah, the marketing is overdone, but it will be gone soon enough. i'd rather hear about this than high school musical 58.

hahaha otm

also don't ppl get tired of complaining about it?

it's like complaining about times square or something.

seriously. there are a million stupid movies, but why waste the energy getting so indignant about them?

i dont complain about it i just tell girls im not willing to sit through it

SATC isnt a big deal to me its just fucking stupid is all

re indignation -- BECAUSE TV shows that have jumped the shark should not be PRETENDING to be movies, yet one more example of an elephant crowding out the ghost of a chance that ppl will watch something original and not presold.

bullshit

fun movies can exist, just for fun.

speaking of pretending, isn't it pretentious to discount a movie because it's based on a funny TV show?

throwdown

and wtf does original mean anyway? way too vague.

is it seriously realistic to think that someone buying a ticket to satc would really choose the artistic film that is "about something real" if they had to choose a different movie? not buying it.

It's not pretentious; it's knowing that CINEMA is a different medium from HBO cash cows.

(bevare, Sur, many have naught returned from de territory into vich you are kreeping...)

xp: yes, teez -- at the Chelsea Clearview, for example, they might wait for the annual revival screening of The Women (1939)! At least those faggots laugh at something genuinely funny once in a while!

so if they are different media, why even compare them!?
xpost

it seems outdated to take the high-brow perspective on it. it's one thing to dislike it, but the professorial stuff is unnecessary.

a once a year cult thing is not quite the same as someone waiting in line for satc and it's sold out so they buy a ticket to made of honor instead...

It's not pretentious; it's knowing that CINEMA is a different medium from HBO cash cows.

(bevare, Sur, many have naught returned from de territory into vich you are kreeping...)

that's an unfortunate statement.

xxp: But I will bet my bippy this film is NOT different, but a blowup of the TV show.

also:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_03/kimcattrallREX_468x558.jpg

and not that this is the point, but i have laughed at The Women, and other CINEMATIC movies. i just think it's incredibly narrow-minded to think that's the only kind of film with any merit.

this is basically like saying Ashlee Simpson could never produce good music. shortsighted.

what is the rent under Kim C's hat?

Sur, we would never agree on the defs of "highbrow" and "hideous crap," so let's quit.

(I consider Dude, Where's My Car? and Bubble Boy to be cinematic, just to confuse you.)

xxp: But I will bet my bippy this film is NOT different, but a blowup of the TV show.

that wasn't what i was saying referring to media. it was your comparison of HBO tv show turned movie vs. CINEMA

we can quit, but it really does upset me to believe there are still perceptions today that things that make money, or are popular, or superficial, must be hideous crap. it's just sooooooo traditional and awful.

also: tho this may be a cash cow of a movie, it brought happiness to my week. and for a lot of other people. it probably brought michael patrick king a lot of happiness to make it. that's something in and of itself.

Shopping for labels, shopping for love
Manolo and Louis, it’s all I’m thinking of
Shopping for labels, shopping for love
Manolo and Louis, it’s all I’m thinking of

I already know what my addiction is
I be looking for labels, I ain’t looking for love
I shop for purses while I walk out the door
Don’t cry, buy a bag and then get over it
And, I’m not concerned with all the politics
It’s a lot of men I know I could find another one.

What I know is that I’m always happy when I walk out the store, store
I’m guessing Supercalifragi-sexy, nothing to be playing with
I love him, hate him, kiss him, diss him, tryna to walk a mile in my kicks

(Chorus)
Love’s like a runway but which one do I love more
No emotional baggage, just big bags filled with Dior
Love’s like a runway, so what’s all the fussing for
Let’s stop chasing them boys and shop some more

I know I might come off as negative
I be looking for labels, I ain’t looking for love
Relationships are often so hard to tame
A Prada dress has never broken my heart before
And, ballin’s something that I’m fed up with
I’mma do the damn thing, watch me do the damn thing
Cause I know that my credit card will help me put out the flames
I’m guessing Supercalifragi-sexy, nothing to be playing with
I love him, hate him, kiss him, diss him, tryna to walk a mile in my kicks

Gucci, Fendi, Prada purses, purchasing them finer things
Men they come a dime a dozen, just give me them diamond rings
I’m into a lot of bling, Cadallic, Chanel and Coach
Fellas boast but they can’t really handle my female approach
Buying things is hard to say
Rocking Christian Audigier, Manolo, Polo, taking photos in my Cartier
So we can’t go all the way, I know you might hate it but
I’m a shop for labels while them ladies lay and wait for love

there are still perceptions today that things that make money, or are popular, or superficial, must be hideous crap

dude, I'm the one who gets raked over the coals here for saying E.T. is a great American film, I'd never make such a sweeping condemnation. The bad reviews aren't saying this, but other things.

it probably brought michael patrick king a lot of happiness to make it. that's something in and of itself.

That's nice.

Wait a sec -- yes, everything that is SUPERFICIAL is crap. By definition.

it is nice.

you didn't make that sweeping condemnation, but when you talk about cinema and originality etc, it feels like classic filmsnobbery, which makes me upset.

ET is a great american film.

uh, no, superficial doesn't necessarily mean crap. i'm sure you have a lot of superficial stuff happening in your life, and it's not all crap. i wear makeup and i like to look good, which i don't think is crappy.

omg u have me so riled up. arguments like this are a privilege.

re indignation -- BECAUSE TV shows that have jumped the shark should not be PRETENDING to be movies, yet one more example of an elephant crowding out the ghost of a chance that ppl will watch something original and not presold.

-- Dr Morbius, Friday, May 30, 2008 4:39 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

you were asking for it

haha, if you say so hon. Don't get mad! Nobody's going to stop them from making two more movies if this one makes a shitload of dough.

i wear makeup and i like to look good, which i don't think is crappy

But perhaps that's not superficial! Throw out the dictionary if nec.

:) k not mad

SJP looks like she's making a bid to topple Big Brown's attempt at the Triple Crown.

lol

she seems very sweet & fuckit id marry matthew broderick if i was given the chance

an elaborate AND topical way to call a lady a horse

kudos xp

she seems very sweet & fuckit id marry matthew broderick if i was given the chance

aww ;) yes

her clothing line is really awful, fwiw

The inimitable K-Lo:

Walking out of the theater, filled with very many twenty-somethings (as you might expect), some dressed in their best couture and/or knock-offs, girl-with-her-cooperative-boyfriend couples, more groups of girls, some girls with a well-dressed man with an obvious affinity for the movie — I took note of the first two things I heard.

The first was: “Oh my God, but he’s soooo cute.” That gal was referring to the decision of Samantha Jones (Kim Cattrall) to leave the (soooo cute) guy who loves her because she loves herself more.

The next thing I heard was, “F*** you, b**ch” as a group of girls were annoyed someone else got the first cab. It was the first cab they saw.

Maybe it’s because it was 3 in the morning, but I found the two comments striking and sad. Here’s a movie that in many ways was a beautiful — albeit crass and p.c. and graphic (like the late television show) — love story. Here’s a movie with suffering and joy and life and cultural lessons, but some of the people I heard leaving the theater didn’t seem to have been affected. I’ll grant you that maybe, just maybe, New Yorkers have too many layers of emotional protection — especially the ones out after midnight on a school night — to let their more tender feelings show at an AMC, but if you had also heard where they laughed and applauded during the movie, you, too, would probably be concerned.

lol "a beautiful -- albeit crass, p.c, graphic -- love story"

The movie is terrible.

You saw it?

pinefox u don't like things like this tho, do you

"It's written by guys, who happen to be gay, who are sluts. That's what I think. Let's face it most men are sluts. That's what testosterone is supposed to do. As a hunter, if you stayed alive after 30, nature wanted your genes out there. Women were just trying to get the best sperm to make a masterpiece...You have a bunch a guys who are sluts, writing for women and telling them they are supposed to act like this."

http://www.towleroad.com/2008/05/lauren-hutton-s.html

I did see it today, yes - bought a ticket and everything.

It might be true that I don't like things like this, but I don't think that would invalidate any criticisms from me. I'm certainly not against films about women, or films set in New York, or films about love or friendship, or even films adapted from TV programmes. This film is all those things. But it's really bad. I'll read a couple of reviews and see how alone I am in this response.

you're right, that doesn't invalidate your criticism! but official reviews shouldn't validate them either.

but is it any worse than the show?

the Village Voice critic, who liked the show, thought so

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/06/09/080609crci_cinema_lane?currentPage=1

I walked into the theatre hoping for a nice evening and came out as a hard-line Marxist, my head a whirl of closets, delusions, and blunt-clawed cattiness.

i guess it wasn't as good as parts of the show. but it was definitely better than the finale.

basically i liked it cuz it was fun, sappy and breezy! also the drama stuff was interesting, and it was really neat to see carrie deal with some struggle. great acting there.

new york mag:
I shall not spoil what follows, but the wedding sequence (about midway through) is a heart-stopper—a mirthless farce in which cell phones and limos function as agents of the unconscious. It’s a chance to watch Parker pull out the acting stops, and she’s spectacularly good: The neediness that makes her one of our giddiest comediennes is also a kind of black hole. Parker has come in for some monstrous derision of late—and I suppose it’s understandable, given that she’s pushed on billboards as the personification of kitty-cat sultriness. But you can sense the fragility beneath the poses. She’s always the little girl dressing up, wriggling from one outfit to the next, elated for a bit but apt to wither in the face of rejection or self-doubt. There are plenty of reasons to resent Carrie’s incessant hunger for designer anything, but how can you resent Parker’s fleeting enchantment? It’s what anchors the show.

i really liked that, especially in light of the whole unsexiest woman alive thing. i was thinking about that going into the movie, actually, which is kinda odd i guess.

Here’s a movie with suffering and joy and life and cultural lessons, but some of the people I heard leaving the theater didn’t seem to have been affected. I’ll grant you that maybe, just maybe, New Yorkers have too many layers of emotional protection

lol this reminded me of my friend complaining abt seeing brokeback mountain in chelsea

I agree that official reviewers have no more validity than I do.

I didn't really like the series, though at one stage I watched it quite a lot. I think I liked the fact that the character Berger (sp?) reminded me of Lloyd Cole, and I was annoyed that he was so casually written out.

In the film, the one character I quite warmed to, actually, was Mr Big. There was almost more reality about him, and a dignity in the way he had to suffer alone and almost entirely unregarded for the whole film.

I also felt that the film improved a little as it went on, the second half better than the first.

What I didn't like about it is so extensive that it would be hard to do justice to. It included:

- ludicrous affluence: literally anything and everything was affordable all the time - not just the odd pair of shoes or handbag, but an infinity of outfits, an impossibly expensive wedding, an even more impossibly expensive apartment, etc. There was not one moment at which any character wondered whether they could afford something - apart perhaps from Carrie's black secretary who had to rent accessories. So what? I suppose this trivializes the film, takes it away from any statement on life.

- extraordinarily flat script: again and again when some kind of zinging comeback or dry remark was called for, we got the most banal phrases, as though it was a first draft to which the wit had not been added. For a programme / film supposedly about dashing / witty / metropolitan types this was a big gap.

- I thought that the film wanted to take itself quite seriously on issues of love, relationships, loss, sadness and so on. But I found its shallowness on these - immensely important - issues offensive. I found its emotional politics utterly bogus, utterly unreal. It didn't seem to have been written by someone who ever has been hurt, or seen a relationship go wrong or end, or tried to save one, or been sad or alone. It felt like it was by someone who has never had an emotional life at all, save perhaps in imagination; or maybe a 14-year-old dreaming dozily of what it would be like to be a woman.

- I suppose I just find the interaction between them, whooping at each other's arrivals and so on, very tired and again, very unreal. I don't find this a serious portrait of friendship (which is what it gets acclaimed as); again it's like the idea of friendship of someone who's never really had any friends.

good post

thank you!

Paul Morley is going to discuss it on BBC2 (UK) in 25 minutes!

but see these are all the givens of sex and the city! they all have too much money. it takes itself too seriously, and doesn't really get at the issues in a meaningful way. the friendships are sentimental and picturesque, and the scripts are pretty regular.

it's like criticizing chocolate for being too chocolatey!

i think its legit criticism of the movie regardless

it's legit, but it's redundant: it's all been said before

i'm sorry, i certainly don't intend to shut down your opinions. but it is tiring hearing some of these things over and over. sex and the city is a fashion show: money is no object. that's the point of the show!

i dont think that the shows dialogue being not witty is part of the show

you're right. except the writing has often been criticized for trying to be overly witty, and in the end failing to be truly clever. all the pun stuff etc.

i mean rly i think if you're into this, you're watching it for the actresses. that's what it boils down to. if you're not into all the clothes, the cheesy lines and friendship, and you're not into the actresses, there's really not much there.

I'm into friendship, and I'm into love. I think the film thinks it is too. But I don't think it's any good on those things.

I didn't like the actresses either, in the film.

i'm sorry i'm being such a douche. you're completely entitled to that reaction :) i guess it's just the kinda movie tailored for someone like me.

haha

=P

Morbs, I'd like to but I can absolutely not tag-team with you on this one. I just find the whole thing just so uninteresting excepting for how it's being sold.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_03/kimcattrallREX_468x558.jpg

This hat is the first SATC thing I've seen that I would very happily wear.

Morley not great but did repeatedly say I HATE THE MOVIE

i wonder how much of the negative reaction here is just a long-delayed backlash against the whole thing. is the timing just really wrong?

Eric, find it uninteresting too, that's why I dumped HBO after SATC's third (?) season! There's a new widely-released Hollywood abomination nearly every week, I didn't mean to imply this one's exceptional.

i'm sorry, i certainly don't intend to shut down your opinions. but it is tiring hearing some of these things over and over. sex and the city is a fashion show: money is no object. that's the point of the show!

-- Surmounter, Friday, May 30, 2008 4:38 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link

And this is why I hate the show and hope that this movie is the nail in its coffin so that it can fade into the background. I complain about it because some of my friends who I would think would have better sense than to like this kind of shit are waiting in line to see it, and I see reminders of this vacuous, glib trash in ads all over town. I'm not terribly snobby w/r/t movies and books, but this show....no.

the pinefox's review is the best i've seen.

i would rather spend six months in rosie o'donnels dutch oven than ever sit through the sex and the city movie.

This hat is the first SATC thing I've seen that I would very happily wear.

Yes! When I saw it it clearly won top outfit prize over all the Carrie nonsense. I thought Samantha was terrific in this, actually. And gosh, her flesh was amazing.

I liked the film rather a lot. The TV series used to wind me up, but I suppose I was oversensitive in those days, and sensitive about my oversensitivity.

her flesh was amazing.

what did it taste like?

carne asada

pollo vieja

pain grille

thank you, J.D.! I appreciate that, it makes it worthwhile typing out all those negative thoughts.

Alba must have seen A Different Film From Me.

there was just something so drawn-out and dumb about the conflicts/misunderstandings in the movie -- carrie vs. big, carrie vs. miranda, miranda vs. steve -- that it was a little frustrating to watch. i used to like the show, but most of the bright snappiness i remembered was missing here.

ludicrous affluence: literally anything and everything was affordable all the time - not just the odd pair of shoes or handbag, but an infinity of outfits, an impossibly expensive wedding, an even more impossibly expensive apartment, etc. There was not one moment at which any character wondered whether they could afford something - apart perhaps from Carrie's black secretary who had to rent accessories. So what? I suppose this trivializes the film, takes it away from any statement on life.

Ok, this is really ridiculous. It's a fairy tale. If we would have to validate every little thing in tv series, they would run in the hours instead of 40 minutes. Sex&TheCity is about escapism. That said, at one point she did lament not being able to afford Blahniks. It was dropped a few times in the series. Which I thought was, I guess, done for the ones who moaned it was unrealistic. BUt come on, this is not about realism! Look at the hats, look at the clothes! It's fun, fun and some MORE FUN.

Also, I'd jump on Mr Big's leg and ride it all the way to Lalaland if I could.

Oh yeah, haven't seen it yet. Hah. Which kind of makes me an idiot critiqueing your review but I still wanted to chime in.

Also, are there scrunchies in the movie?

i don't think so! i saw this woman on the subway wearing a FUR SCRUNCHY

FUR

btw one of the most cynical people i know saw this and liked it.

Miami Vice had the conceit that made the viewer assume that Crockett and Tubbs were reimbursed for their clothing purchases.

box office down 62.5% the second weekend. It's hard to do repeat business with packs of four girlfriends.

http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/sexandtheshtty.jpg

what's a bint?

:)

yeah

n. Chiefly British & Offensive.

A woman or girl.

oic

what nathalie said.

i saw it the other day. was better than i thought it would be. more unexpected outcomes for the characters. the fashion/photo shoot scenes were annoying but i dont think those bits were for me. and fergies theme song is fucking awful.

a few things i noticed though -

when big and carrie were kissing, it was so devoid of real/believable passion. for a film called sex and the city, i wouldnt have minded if all the sex scenes were deleted.

also, most of the guys in this film acted like theyd been neutered! i know its all about the women but at least in the few episodes of SATC i saw, big had a bit more balls. here, he just seemed deflated.

okay i dreamt about this movie last night, and at some point i shagged kim cattrell.

Way to go!

lol

I was surprised by the level of hatred my wife felt for this movie. I mean sure I thought *I* would hate it, but she got increasingly irritated the longer it dragged on.

I just watched this. Pinefox OTM and then some. As a TV series, it all seemed good in half-hour chunks, but a whole interminable movie made me hate it. It magnified all its terrible flaws to the point where it was nothing *but* flaws. It took all the things it thought were good about the characters but seemed to miss the mark so many times. They were like grotesque caricatures of the seemingly-likeable caricatures they portray. Perhaps it was the extended format that did for it - it would probably have made an OK final series divided up into shorter episodic parts, with a week-long gap inbetween each bit, with added other background stuff.

btw, if I never see that "Charlotte shits her pants" bit ever again, I'll be a happy woman. A very low point in a movie peppered with low points. Jennifer Hudson was great though (even though the whole "move to big city to find love and, oh look, small town girls go and find small town love in their small town" bit was kind of tacky in the extreme)

The shoehorning/sidelining of Harry/Stanford/Anthony/Magda etc was shit as well.

this was so bad

There's a 2nd movie coming.

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/38780392.html#cutid1

those shoes!

Trailer:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2010/04/sex-and-the-city-2-trailer-cometh-penelope-cruz-miley-cyrus-and-the-return-of-aidan.html

There's a scene in Abu Dhabi? Great timing.

surm, this is yr only warning:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/fbi-uncovers-plot-to-sex-and-the-city-2,17334/

what's a bint?

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:45 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

n. Chiefly British & Offensive.

A woman or girl.

― caek, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:47 (1 year ago) Bookmark

A man would be nothing - NOTHING - without a bint.

i think most of it's in abu dhabi

going to the world premiere!

David Edelstein: "It's as if they set out to make a movie that said, 'You're right! We are hideous!'"

i had a great time at this movie. i laughed, i cried, i looked within myself and came up with a few answers. i wished for better skin rejuvination techniques for sarah jessica parker. but i loved her to death anyway.

most carrie line of the movie: she's getting back on the plane to go home, and the flight attendant goes "do you have anything to declare?"

her response (saw this coming from a mile away): "Yes. I'm a mess."

surm, keep talking like that and I may criticize your shoes when we finally meet.

Yes. This is one of those bridges too far, surm. The movie and its costumes are ruinous.

I can only hope some high-profile fashionista comes out against this sartorial abortion.

To be fair to fans of The Women (I'm not one of them), its costumes were hideous too:

http://www.legendaryjoancrawford.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/thewomenmain2.gif

More Edelstein lols:

It begins with the nightmarish manic gaiety of Mamma Mia!, with strenuous lockjawed smiles that make you think you’re watching stroke victims. Then Liza Minnelli shows up to perform a gay marriage. Heralded (and hooted at) as the embodiment of camp unreality, she looks more human—nervous but happy to belong somewhere—than the four leads.

The thinking behind the movie (written and directed by Michael Patrick King) is undisguised. Let’s start with an over-the-top gay wedding! Then we’ll send the girls to Abu Dhabi so they can rile up the fundamentalists with their sexuality! Then they’ll make fun of women in niqab (“Certainly cuts down on the Botox bill!”) but later show (campy) feminist solidarity! Won’t they look great swishing around the desert being waited on by smooth young Arab men?

lol i mean, it was just one of those things that it was right for me, at the time, in that moment. see i almost didn't go, i'm coming off a shit weekend. and last minute, i had a carrie moment and fled work to claim my ticket. even dis-invited a back-up friend in the process. it was what you call a woman's right to change her mind.

stroke victims observation is OOOOOOO OTM tho! uncanny

*SOOOOOOO

Can't wait to read what Ramin Setoodeh makes of those first 20 minutes.

surm, I think yr "Carrie moment" lasts a lifetime. Thank God you can't buy that many shoes.

Then we’ll send the girls to Abu Dhabi so they can rile up the fundamentalists with their sexuality! Then they’ll make fun of women in niqab (“Certainly cuts down on the Botox bill!”) but later show (campy) feminist solidarity!

uh is this actually what happens cuz this is pretty offensive on its face

UR KIDDING. a sex and the city movie in abu dhabi? offensive? NO FUCKIN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that a Sex in the City movie set in Abu Dhabi might feature offensive commentary on local practices! This show needs to go back to its moral center of talking about how Charlotte doesn't want to be known as the "up the butt girl".

xp lol

This show needs to go back to its moral center of talking about how Charlotte doesn't want to be known as the "up the butt girl".

tbf, this was one of the better moments on the show

well considering it's like the only one I remember...!

Mining cultural stereotypes is out of character for a "movie" that begins with gay men being married by Liza Minnelli

Instead of 'to'

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/031224/91435__liza_l.jpg

stereotypes are one thing, ramping up the smug self-righteousness of over priveleged harpies takes it to another level

um, not really (from the perspective of a minority)

the smug self-righteousness of overprivileged minorities.

well played, Raggett.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=19026

um, not really (from the perspective of a minority)

I meant it just makes things worse

like, makes an already bad/objectionable situation that much more unbearable

I'm relatively certain that the situation would be pretty much as unbearable if it was 4 poor American women making fun of local customs

http://pics.livejournal.com/stepliana/pic/000rhse6

Good lord, lighten up.Its a fucking Sex and the City sequel for god's sake.

xxpost to Collier

xp: (as the operative issue here is "foreigner making fun of unfamiliar culture" and not "rich person making fun of unfamiliar culture"; casting it otherwise says more about your hangups regarding wealth than it does about the tackiness level of the SATC movie, which everyone who had any inkling of what SATC is knew was going to be off-the-charts-holy-shit-I-need-to-smack-someone-for-this tacky)

??

Larry the Cable Guy probably a better analogue than Roseanne

xp

I really could care less about the movie, but it's amusing to watch or listen to so many straight men get in a huff because their wives or girlfriends want to check this out instead of a ball game.

smugness, self-righteousness, harpy-ness doesn't have anything to do with wealth Dan

straight men get in a huff because their wives or girlfriends want to check this out instead of a ball game.

this is not the issue with me Alfred

you left out "over privileged"

my wife HATED the first movie fwiw. I think she just wants to see this to witness the trainwreck

you left out "over privileged"

given how much this show emphasizes conspicuous consumption it would be weird to kinda overlook it, but yr focusing on ONE characteristic out of four that I cited

straight men get in a huff because their wives or girlfriends want to check this out instead of a 3D ball game renderings.

I'll totally fess up to my own class hatred issues but they're not really central to my finding the premise of their Abu Dhabi adventure offensive. Abu Dhabi is really wealthy, it's not like these bimbos' pocketbooks are going to be conspicuous - Abu Dhabi is not Somalia

Can we just be offended by how ugly everything is in this movie and how unfunny it is?

This is a movie in which someone actually says "Lawrence of my labia."

lolol i know

the writing/fashion are years shy of the quality of the actual series. i just like seeing all the women together.

I really could care less about the movie, but it's amusing to watch or listen to so many straight men get in a huff because their wives or girlfriends want to check this out instead of a ball game.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:12 AM (6 minutes ago)

This is a slippery slope, tho, into accusations of self-loathing queerdom.

Is it really a remake of Steel Magnolias? Because I cannot be dealing with that shit right now. I may need to drink before hand if this is true.

― VeronaInTheClub

RIP

pls don't ever mar the good name of steel magnolias with a comparison to a screenplay like this.

This is a slippery slope, tho, into accusations of self-loathing queerdom heterosexuality.

okay I have no interest in continuing my mini-argument with Shakey because the narcissism of tiny differences pales when placed next to the linguistic horrorshow that is "Laurence of my labia"

"L of labia" dryness jokes plz

I refuse to believe there is anyone heterosexual working behind the scenes of SATC.

Poon arid

In re: "Lawrence of my labia," I now envision a dark something slowly emerging from the desert horizon...

I refuse to believe there is anyone heterosexual working behind the scenes of SATC.

Is Patricia Field gay?

I think my favorite thing about this movie - not that I've seen it - is that they all apparently think that Abu Dhabi is a glamorous tourist destination.

the poster of SJP walking thru the desert sets "Horse with No Name" playing in my head

hahahaha

lolol

cuz there ain't no one for to buy you no shoes

"Dubai is over! Abu Dhabi is where it's at now!"

Agree with the point here about how "the films confirm all the worst (and wrong) assumptions (men, mainly) made about the show and its (largely female) audience."

• This article was amended on 25 May 2010. The original said that Jennifer Hudson was returning to the south. This has been corrected.

lol brits

"Lawrence of my labia." make me chuckle.
that is reading it upthread made me chuckle.

i've not seen any of the movies and have no opinion of the show - but i have to say the print ads & billboards are some of the most over photoshopped things i have ever seen. it is amazing.

not as shopped as sjp's face on marie claire, dude

come sex and and the city 4, the girls will be 100% cgi

^^^

not as shopped as sjp's face on marie claire, dude

just gis'd and i'd have to disagree.

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/sarah-jessica-parker-totally-looks-like-the-cowardly-lion.jpg

I guess that makes Matthew Broderick Dorothy

um... i did not Dorthy had been linked romantically to the Cowardly Lion at any point.

worst slash ever (in multiple ways)

http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2010/05/sarah-jessica-parker-marie-claire-june-2010.jpg

girl's face never looked that good IRL. not even when she was 13.

:|

ok i take that back. there were moments in SATC the show when she looked better than that, but she also looked ... REAL

um. anyways... ah... gis turned up different covers than that one.

xpost - not as good as 13 yr old SJP tho?!

http://www.fashionverbatim.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/satc2-poster.jpg

like, i don't even know where to begin with this.

legs, arms, eyes - all p-shopped into lolblivion!

Sex in the City (Without The "City")

I thought it was sort of nice how, in the show, Stanford and Anthony hated each other because on every other show, everyone who is gay seems to be best friends because they Share a Common Bond or whatever. So to have them marry (quite arbitrarily!!) simply because they are the two gays on the show strikes me as really tasteless and pretty offensive and not at all progressive.

lol. i know, at one point i convinced myself that the intent of the ad campaign was to make everything look cgi so as to mimic the the opulence of abu dhabi. or something.

(xp to thermo)

Also, apparently the song "True Colors" is on the sound track. Please please dear God tell me it wasn't part of the wedding scene?

no it was at the end

i mean - it's not bad work (except, maybe, from the sloppily liquified arms around her boobs) but there's just SO MUCH work done to it!

xposts

o also her boob job looks a little weird

ya - that's sort of what fucked up the arms - see how they bulge out a bit and the left looks so skinny.

Is Patricia Field gay?

yes!

Unrelated, but she came to my store once, and she just reeked of cigarette smoke.

this was really bad.

I wondered briefly whether Abu Dhabi had underwritten all this product placement, but I learn the "SATC2" was filmed in Morocco, which must be Morocco's little joke.

- EEBZ

This weekend's other stinker was ALSO filmed in Morocco. It's a plague.

i did not Dorthy had been linked romantically to the Cowardly Lion at any point.

I have never linked SJP romantically to Broderick either!

me-owww

you are so naive

:)

there wasn't a hope of me seeing this in any case, but 146 MINS???

DUDE i know

this movie should have been 80 minutes.

fuck all 2.5 hour movies

so sick of this shit

omg calm down

:P

i cant

the worst thing is that this movie doesn't even have enough story for a whole episode.

yeah but i think when making a movie version of a TV show (esp. only a few years after the show was on the air) kinda raises the impetus to make it feel much bigger/longer than just a supersized episode or whatever. and of course they're not gonna make the plot complex enough to justify 2.5 hours, it's frigging Sex And The City, but the movie is for people who loved that show and want to see more more more of it, not people who want a good concise light comedy.

no

Cannot comprehend the running time. One-star review in The Guardian today, gave me a chuckle with this:

I once watched Béla Tarr's Sátántangó, the legendary, gloomy black-and-white Hungarian film that lasts for seven and a half hours. Compared to the Abu Dhabi section of Sex And The City 2, Sátántangó zips past like an episode of Spongebob Squarepants.

ideally the sex and the city movies should feel like 3-4 episodes back to back.

always leave em wanting more imo

i mean i feel for you if you had to sit through that slog for work, but as a non-fan who should have no problem avoiding these movies forever, i'm OK with people who actually care getting their 3 hour feast of SATC bullshit

i actually like the show, didn't mind the first movie... i think it's a fair criticism to say that it... well... sucks.

i think even megafans would enjoy a good movie more than a bad one!

first one was pretty long too though right?

im not not a fan of the series. i mean im not going to see it because "i have this thing" [via HIMYM] but i don't think it's fans are idiots who enjoy bad an overlong movies.

i wish i could remember a single thing about it tbh

first one actually had a sort of plot... this one is so aimless

yeah admittedly i'm coming from a somewhat condescending place of megafans of this show can't possibly be discerning enough to tell if it's a good or bad movie anyway

imagine how hard the entourage movie would suck

omg

they could start w. ari's gay assistant getting married

then they would go to morocco, where vince is making a big movie

cultural differences ensue

it is a shame, tho, that michael patrick king couldn't get it together enough to write a tighter, more natural script. i mean, good SATC episodes are TIGHT, and free-flowing. the movies are just ... it's kind of like a kid who figured out that this one joke makes all the adults laugh, and tells it over and over and over again. the actresses are still great to watch, and some of the writing is genuinely fun, but all in all it's a hodge-podge of one man's attempts at re-living the grandeur of past greatness: corny, self-pressured and unfocused.

that being said, i STILL had an amazing time at the screening. go figure.

ya that's the thing - the writing in SATC was actually quite good

until about the 4th/5th season

gotta hand it to cynthia nixon, tho, for being in her own movie the whole time. girl was a riot!

blew my mind to see young cute her with crooked teeth in amadeus recently

check her out in a bit as a teen junkie in Lumet's Prince of the City

Satantango felt longer than SATC2 tbh.

check her out in a bit as a teen junkie in Lumet's Prince of the City

or as winsome hippie child in Little Darlings (opposite Matt Dillon, Tatum O'Neal and Kristy McNichol)

her appeal has always been at once human and completely entertaining, imo

A.O. Scott:

The first “Sex and The City” movie, which came out two years ago, qualifies as a comedy both because it is somewhat funny and because, according to a more classical definition, it ends, after some reversals and delays, with a wedding. The sequel — which should have borrowed a subtitle from another picture opening this week and called itself “Sex and the City: The Sands of Time” — begins with a wedding and never seems to end. Your watch will tell you that a shade less than two and a half hours have elapsed, but you may be shocked at just how much older you feel when the whole thing is over.

The wedding, the characters frequently remark, with the mixture of insouciant mockery and cosmopolitan self-congratulation that seems to have become the hallmark of this weary franchise, is a gay one. Stanford (Willie Garson) and Anthony (Mario Cantone) have made honest men of each other, giving the four main female characters, their male companions and the director, Michael Patrick King, a chance to wink, nod and drag out Liza Minnelli to perform “All the Single Ladies.” Her version is in no way superior to the one in “Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel,” and it is somehow both the high point of “Sex and the City 2” and a grim harbinger of what is to come. The number starts out campy, affectionate and self-aware, but at some point turns desperate, grating and a little sad.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/burkas-and-birkins/Content?oid=4132715

This review by Lindy West is hilarious.

Carrie Bradshaw: At the end of the first SATC movie (2008)—after eleventy decades of chasing his emotionally abusive jowls through the streets of Manhattan—Carrie finally marries Mr. Big, the man of her shallow, self-obsessed dreams. It has now been two years since their nuptials. Carrie already hates it. She hates that he sits on the couch. She hates that he eats noodles out of a take-out box. She hates that he wants to spend quality time with her in their incredibly expensive and gaudy apartment. She hates that he bought her an enormous television. When Big suggests that they spend a couple of days a week in separate apartments (they own TWO apartments, because life is hard!), Carrie screeches, "Is this because I'm a bitch wife who nags you?" Congratulations. You have answered your own question.

Miranda Redhairlawyerface: Miranda is a lawyer who has red hair. She also has a child. As a working woman, Miranda is forced to miss every single one of her child's incessant science fairs (as though children know anything of science!). Also, her lawyer boss is a cartoon dick. Miranda quits her job, and everyone is much happier. This is because women should not work. It is terrible for the children.

Sex and the City 2 makes Phyllis Schlafly look like Andrea Dworkin.

rofl

the point was not that women should not work, that's a stupid assessment. i was with the excerpt until that statement.

The point is that women should look like Sarah Jessica Parker and drink disgusting pink fluids.

emotionally abusive jowls

lol. i ordered 2 cosmos after the premiere and ORDERED THEM WITH PRIDE

God, reviewers that have to hold until day of release are going to have their work cut out for them to come up with new zingers.

Nothing like a fine piece of celluloid offal to bring out the best in criticism.

I've always wanted to try a pink lady.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=EB&Date=20100525&Category=REVIEWS&ArtNo=100529986&Ref=AR&Maxw=366

^^^why is this lady on the right dressed like a Mormon?

Why is Samantha wearing white shoes with a black dress? We are not supposed to question the SATC universe; it should wash over us like a fetid fart.

she's the up-the-butt girl

xp

she's the up-the-butt girl

What, she's got her black shoes in there?

Why is Samantha wearing white shoes with a black dress?

Haha, I had this EXACT SAME THOUGHT during the movie!!

really? i like the look

i just STILL don't understand why EVERY outfit they put on cynthia has to match her hair in some way

it's JUST RED it's not a lifelong fashion sentence :(

It makes me sad that anyone who isn't Mormon would willingly dress like they're headed off to the temple to do marriage ceremonies by proxy for their long-dead great-great-gramamaws.

What, she's got her black shoes in there?

this was a poor joke ref'ing common "urban myth" re: Mormon girls and premarital anal sex

Is there a group of conservative women that myth hasn't been attributed to?

haha probably not

the amish?

why do you think it's called "Rumspringa"?

no it's def true w/ amish girls in my experience

Iatee, Lord of the Amish Thighs

not sure anyone posted this:

"SATC2 takes everything that I hold dear as a woman and as a human — working hard, contributing to society, not being an entitled cunt like it's my job — and rapes it to death with a stiletto that costs more than my car.... If this is what modern womanhood means, then just fucking veil me and sew up all my holes."

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/burkas-and-birkins/Content?oid=4132715

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=EB&Date=20100525&Category=REVIEWS&ArtNo=100529986&Ref=AR&Maxw=366

i like how their hemlines are exactly in sync with each others' relative levels of flirt

"SATC2 takes everything that I hold dear as a woman and as a human — working hard, contributing to society, not being an entitled cunt like it's my job — and rapes it to death with a stiletto that costs more than my car.... If this is what modern womanhood means, then just fucking veil me and sew up all my holes."

:D

I don't need to read anything else about this movie.

newsflash Ebert like boobs

thankin u Morbs Lindy West's review is the best thing to have come out of all this tragedy

ok I actually read that review and it is level-up A++ epic gold star lolz

a home video of gay men playing with giant Barbie dolls

review is lindy in peak form, but she's been the best thing about the stranger for quite a while

"But very quickly, the SATC brain trust notices that it's not all swarthy man-slaves and flying carpets in Abu Dhabi! In fact, Abu Dhabi is crawling with Muslim women—and not one of them is dressed like a super-liberated diamond-encrusted fucking clown!!! Oppression! OPPRESSION!!!"

that review is a username goldmine

contenderizer otm she's their anthony lane

in a movie that feigns to tackle the complexities of modern romance, all a gay man needs to do to find love is be placed in the general vicinity of another gay person -- even if he's as repellent as Mario Cantone.

http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/sex_and_the_city/index.html?story=/ent/movies/film_salon/2010/05/28/sex_and_the_city_bad_for_gays

aw, glad to see lindy getting props from ebert

Liza Minnelli to perform “All the Single Ladies.”

ladies and gentleman, a round of applause for the new york times copy desk!!!

btw i've never seen a second of this show, as a homo is it my duty to check out a season via netflix

No duty! Second or third season is good tho.

Armond's pan of this is mostly about Alicia Keys.

ha, this review is like five levels of armond self-parody

i dug 3rd season -- non-homo but v steeped in homo culture

that review was posted upthread, btw -- credit not to morbs

3rd season is amazing, my hands down favorite season, so fun

and she looks amazing in it

you might want to take a flask of cosmos with you.

― tehresa

My sister & her friend did just that! (For the original; dunno if they've seen the sequel yet.)

Liza Minnelli to perform “All the Single Ladies.”

ladies and gentleman, a round of applause for the new york times copy desk!!!

― ok dennis hopper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, May 30, 2010 2:09 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Wld've rather heard a rendition of "You're Irreplaceable (To The Left)" tbh

I'm pretty sure they used "(Tonight) I'll Be Your Naughty Girl."

omg are u joking cuz u might be right i think, now that i'm remembering

this movie really abused the fuck out of "empire state of mind"

ugh true

2nd weekend: -59%

watching the second one right now, i will admit to having a bit of fun

Gaypocalypse Now and Forever

Watching the second one as a dishwashing film and I’m only watching it in fifteen minute bursts but this is awful. This film is fucking cancer. Not sure I’ll be able to finish it.