The Oscars

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lets start this with a bitter rant on the lameness of LoTR

anthony, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i completely missed it. what happened? and yes lotr is pretty bad.

Maria, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i am blogging it when its over

anthony, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't believe Woody Allen was there! He never goes!

I was amused to see Jello Biafra quoting Mommy Dearest.

rosemary, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that was him?! i missed Lou Reed cause David was talking

anthony, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lou talked about being in the second or third row when he sees a movie -- in order to be overwhelmed by it. Rite on, Lou.

This Lord of the Rings shit needs to go take a flying leap.

Andy K, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

is it just me (relative, i know) or is this the lamest oscars in recent memory.

jess, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it was even a lame death year!

jess, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nigel Hawthorne was a major fucking loss , one of the major talents
of the theater and film and someone who really cannot be replaced . As well Jack Lemmon -Paper Tiger,The Apartment,Some Like it Hot
And Aidan Quinn 90 movies over a 94 year career
it was a decent death year !

anthony, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Halle Berry fucking christ , get a hold of yourself, perform some hysterics , fuck a hillbilly and talk about Race= get an oscar .

anthony, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I really need to keep asking this. Am I the only person who has actually seen Training Day? Denzel Washington is terrible in it; he's like the least convincing bad ass corrupt cop ever, in history.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

New Zealand media is very excited re:Lord of the Rings.natch.

ducklingmonster, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Having seen Training Day, Washington's Oscar definitely strikes me as one of those cumulative deals.

Andy K, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't even think Denzel is cumulatively that great.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Russel Crowe plays straight and gets an oscar , i am exhuasted to sickness about this whitewashing of queer life . That and i loathe Ron Howard.

anthony, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only good part of the Oscars: That skit with Owen Wilson dressed up as Harry Potter.

geeta, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think my favorite part had to be the Owen Wilson/Ben Stiller sketch.

Either that or Robert Crumb talking about his 'sexual attraction to cute cartoon characters' in the documentary montage. If it hadn't gone by so fast, I'm sure that would have fucked with the minds of quite a few innocent young viewers.

Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fuck it heres my notes Random Things i wrote about the Oscars
* Uma Thermans hair shouldn't be based on tropical fruit, but the victorian funeral look is hot
* Jennifer Connelly , burlap petticoat
* Dame Maggie Smith looks like Rod Stewart in Rather awkward drag
* Tom Cruise is an insufferable prick, a self important bitch who does not understand how pompous he really is
* The opening vignette seems to go art trash camp art trash trash trash , reminding me of how right noel coward ( never underestimate the power of cheap tunes) and Pauline Kale ( Trash Art and the Movies) were
* Kodak is mentioned 4 times in the first 15 minutes
* Owen Wilson looks like some midwest preacher - someone should sit him down and explain black tie
* Russell Crowe - the guy bothered with another fussy frock coat, perhaps combing his hair would be in order
* Kate Winslet - "I wouldn't Like to attempt to Pee" on the comfort of her gown
* Paul McCartney , You are not Dylan and it is no longer hip to flash the peace sign, please be polite and stop trying so bloody hard
* The only reason to watch a beutiful mind was Russel Crowe in a white t shirt
*Helen Mirren - Best "downstairs" actress in aeons
* Kate Winslets career direction was godlike , make the biggest movie ever made , then go back to England , to make movies you like to do
* I missed Mamets wonderful words about editing because of Will Smiths sit com delivery
* We get jingoistic nonesense instead of the wonderus Moulin Rouge and the elegant decay of Memento WTF ?
Whoopis a godsend , shovelling thru all this silly shit
Mike Nichols speech on make up , sweet and funny and sort of old fashioned , really appreciated
* i hated LoTR but the make up was good
* Seeing Ryan Phillipe climb into his wives cunt was amusing
* In the Bedroom was so suffourcating , like having the oxygen slowly squeezed out of you. with the interiors always seeming in danger of collapsing on themselves
* Ben Stiller is less funny as he goes along - self refential is now annoying
* Harry Potter is one of the best designed movies i have seen , but i am thrilled at Moulin Rouges win
* Woody Allen playing nebbish , so good and his love for ny , and how much that pisses off LA folks , then that Nora Ephron Montage with all my favorite movies from that time , reminds me of the nine april days i spent there at 14 and how that deepened my romanticism
* ameile is too sweet a confection
* Helen Hunts designer forgot to finish the dress
* In the Documentry Montage , that scene where Triumph of the Will leads to the Holocaust films was so subtle and well done the message may have been lost
* In that same montage- endless summer surfers, ws burroughs,robert crumb,AIDS,jesus,paul mccartney and let it be, woodstock and hells angels at altamont abutting, zimmy , and to end it all stop motion flower blossoming into the dulcet tones of kennedys speech , two minutes before his violent death
* Sam Jackson is wearing what Quentin Crisp would wear if he was resurected in 2120
* I wanted to see all the documetary films
* CAmeron Diaz could have used the extra 18 inches of her sleeves to cover her tits
* moulin rouge won art direction YAAAAAAAAAAH - That movie was so fucking beutiful and complex
* Andy Warhol if he lived to now would look like Baz Luhrman , its the hair
* The way we were was so good
* I think Redfords greatest achivement will be Sundance
* How he talks about freedom seems to be so plain and so vital , and how he talks about struggling against chaos seems like something from Genesis, classic
* Hysterics bore me
* Judi Dench derseves to win for this , rather then the eight minutes in Shakespeare in Love
* I thought the greiving mother=oscar gold would clench it for Sissy
* Nicole - oh that delcious and lovely nicole- oh how i worship her
* Zelwigger has definte comedic talent , a gift that goes unapprecaited
* Halle, you egotistic bitch, Lena Horne could act you out of anything . You forgot Eartha and Josephine and Nina . Even Angela Basset can out act you - fuck anyone can out act you and Ms. Basset can out act anyone - watching such a hysteric and dull performance get an award that should have gone to a million other actresses and then watching you bawling like a woman whose seen jesus, it makes one sick. That and thanking everyone you have ever met including yr lawyers twice, pathetic .
* Yeah, I know yr the first black actress to win this award but just because you fucked the hillbilly and talked about Race doesn't make you any one of talent.
* Catherine Denuve talking about Monroe, melts my heart
* Sean Penn can act and they are nomating him for this gross act of minelstry ?!
* My older realtions say smith as ali is spooky close but does mimicry make good acting ?
Denzel, darling, God doesn't care if you win an oscar and you have too much of a fucking ego to play a sycophant well, we know that Mr Porteir can act you out of a wet paper bag- so can Don Cheadle, Samuel L Jackson,Savion Glover, Danny Glover or Isaiah Washington
They nomanatied two brilliant and singular actors of american film and gave the oscar to opie ?
Ron Howard has NEVER made a good film and Altman and Lynch have made at least 4 masterpeices . Both of them have evolved into tropes and adjectives ,
* Who wins the enema of the american midwest
* Ian Mckellon brought his kiwi love bitch
* I am pleased that Broadbent got the award- he has not gotten enough notice for such a brillian career
* The Cirque de Soliel thing was breathtaking , tennously related to anything but good theater , esp. teh 12 people hanging from chin straps across the audience
* Nathan Lanes line- thats hollywood real diamonds fake breasts was one of the better ones of the night
* Why wasn't walking life in animated feature- is this one strictly for the kiddies ? * Halley Barre is wearing the entire living room drapes and half the couch cushion
* Marcia Gay Harden-Princess Grace in Bollywood
* Ben Kingsly in Sexy Beasts=Satan in Paradise lost
* Potiers speech -he has so much power and grace , an autoritative voice , and this speech sounds like Ishmael Reeds words coming out of a Shakepseran Mouth ,these corgeous cadences , this modesty and acceptence of a larger traditon of film makers ,
* All that said , Guess whos coming to dinner is still problematic and it was v. odd not to have Spike Lee talk in the Reel on his life
* The Auidence gives us all these little factoids, like Poterier was the Bahamain Ambassodor to Japan
* Visual Effects - LotR but at least it isn't Pearl Harbour
* Arthur Hillers movies were middle brow , feel good liberalim - though making love made me feel gay for the first time
Its so embarrassing to win an award for what you should be doinf

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* Sandra Bullock- Classy
* Hugh Grant- Useless Git
* AI was speilberg fucking the corpse of Kubrick
* Remember when Randy Newman was bitter , now hes a lap dog begging for academy scraps
* Sting is getting too self righteous for his own good but he did sound a bit like Scott Walker
* enya is not really irish , discuss
* Faith Hill is not really country, discuss
* McCArtney is not really dylan. discuss
* Jennifer Lopezs tits are not visisble, she looks like a shangri la
* Newman finally won one after 16, It only took Luci 15
* Canucks do v. v. well in short films 2/5 animated this year and 1/5 live action
* Josh Hartnett needs a haircut and a better fitting suit
* Paltrow needs a bra and a top that does not show skin , its tatty w/o being erotic
* A Beuitiful Mind did a disserivce to John Nash, stripping off any complexity to allow Middle America to feel comfortable with a hero who fits into the hetrosexualzation of diease of the week narratives . It was a slap in the face and i was angry to see it lauded.
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anthony, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i seen LOTR with saskia leek, she kept prodding me in the ribs cause she thought i had gone to sleep. i hadn't tho.

, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

thank you, anthony, i missed the whole thing but this is even better! (i'd pay big $ for the anthony-commentated audio track DVD version)

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, pretty cool there, Anthony. Heh heh heh. Beats out Joan Rivers' antics by a mile and a half.

I guess the only real disappointment, as in something I was sure would definitely happen, was McKellen's loss, but Anthony's right, Broadbent's brilliant and a half and the recognition is well deserved. Personally I thought his turn in Topsy-Turvy a couple of years back really should have garnered him something.

As for the LOTR hate, heard it all before -- and I shall not be moved and you shall not pass.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dame Maggie Smith looks like Rod Stewart in Rather awkward drag

i laughed and laughed. anthony you are brilliant

geeta, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Doorag, you namedropping ho!

Saskia = my idol. *envies*

petra jane, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't believe I was made to watch any of that.

I DON'T CARE

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Chortle.

suzy, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm really surprised and quite saddned that Reese Witherspoon didn't get an Oscar.

jel --, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't winge that much though, apart from during 'On the red carpet' and when Whoopi Goldburg made her entrance. Alan Cummings was good fun though.

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Elijah Wood was ROBBED for Best Hobbit!

katie, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

* Nicole - oh that delcious and lovely nicole- oh how i worship her

Good boy. She was indeed a vision.

I watched the first one (best supporting actress) and then crashed into bed (it was 2am GMT). I absolutely knew it was going to be Jennifer Connelly and then it was so I thought I'd go to bed with a 100% prediction record intact.

Who was that blonde woman sitting near the front with an enormous chest jacked up?

N., Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If there was a BEST HOBBIT category it OBV should haf been PIPPIN!

Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alan Cumming *rocks*. See posts passim.

If they give HIM the BBC job next year Ed will watch every second.

suzy, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hmm, the BBC presented bit were only the bits where they had ads in the states, pretty frequent admittedly but it would take more than a camp scotsman to make me watch the surrounding drivel

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who was he? He was kind of annoying.

N., Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He was in a crappy sit com about flight attendants on the BBC.

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

at least it's nice to see Halle Berry SMILING for once and not looking like a bulldog sucking chili off a thistle like she usually does. at the BAFTAS she looked like she'd just downed a pint of vinegar (n.b. if I had downed a pint of vinegar i would probably be smiling as i like drinking vinegar, but have been told that this is WEIRD. anyone else i guess would be making a face just like Halle's).

katie, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alan Cumming: played the MC in the Donmar Warehouse Cabaret, took it to Broadway, won awards, camp as tents, very catty and bitchy and making very cheeky references to beards in the gay man's lexicon sense. Scottish.

Loved it.

suzy, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

all senses of beard are the same sense

mark s, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(this ps is why nicole is obsessed w.tom's)

mark s, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cruise's or Ewing's?

N., Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dickinson's.

Tim, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

babs was there - i saw her fleeting ass after redford's wankery - mum and I were goign - ahs he had a facelift? maybe he needs one...and then he started talking about art and being an artist, mum and i looked at each other and said almost in unison, honey it's been along time since you made anything resembling art...

what the fuck were circusfuckingsoleilfuckingfrenchwops hanging from the ceiling for?

and what the fuck was sandra bollocks doing there - is that the only way she can make it onto an oscars stage?

john williams is the antichrist by the way - memories of bordeom filtered down through the assholes of a lame american society.

Tonight made me want to ask Ossama why bother?

Queen G, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So I guess I'm the only person who found half of Anthony's comments obnoxious and childish? Not to mention that his long post made it, what, three times in this thread he referred to Halle Berry as a race- riding hillbilly-fucker? Why don't you just start calling her a "pickaninny" again, darling?

Points:

Waking Life is a terrible film and should be blown up.

Moulin Rouge is a terrible film and should be blown up.

Nicole Kidman has the worst "pretending to be happy for the other person" face I've ever seen, and didn't deserve to be nominated anyhow for that piece of shit film.

Kate Winslet looked really pretty.

Denzel makes a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE bad-ass undercover cop. Even with 8 guns strapped to him, smoking a joint and "dissing" Ethan Hawke, I didn't think he was a bad ass. That's something too, Ethan Hawke? If they maybe hired a believable bad ass for Denzel's role, they could've gotten someone less wussy than Ethan Hawke as the protagonist.

Jennifer Connolly is such a pretty girl, why did she look like Lara Flynn Boyle last night?

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh! And:

RUSSELL CROWE CUT YOUR HAIR. I'm trying to convince my boyfriend to cut his freakin' hair since he's looking like Macy Gray lately, and seeing Russell with long hair isn't going to help me convince him since he fancies himself looking like Russell Crowe. GRRR FUCK YOU RUSSELL.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ed that sitcom was GRATE you CHURL.

Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oscars = films = me not caring HOOM.

Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People who don't like films are beyond my comprehension.

N., Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This may seem silly but I have this theory that every Oscars contains one moment (if we're lucky, two) that's real. Thru all the scripting and pancake makeup and swoopy zooming camera movements, somehow (goes the theory) someone manages to say or do something that cuts right through it all (my litmus test: I cry. yes, I told you it was silly)

Examples: Frances McDormand's speech accepting for Best Actress. Fellini accepting the lifetime achievement award in Italian and tottering to the edge of the stage and stretching his arms out wide for Giulieta whose face is bathed in tears. Roberto Begnini. Do I have a soft spot for Italians? Anyway, was there a moment like this last night? From what Anthony says maybe I think it was Mike Nichols.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just don't seem to see many films, that's all.

Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks for the summary Anthony.

Spike Lee was in the Poiter reel. This is one of the few things I saw as I only watched about 20 minutes of the show.

i liked Berry's performance. missed her acceptance speech which is probably for the best. They always make me cringe. I never even heard of Training Day, wtf?

Samantha, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

her screaming is what woke me up this morning, the radio must have been on for a while but all of a sudden I was woken by some high pitched screaming, repeats later in the morning revealed this was Ms Berry's acceptance speech.

chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Roberto Begnini's "exuberation" was one of the most scripted, horrifying moments in Oscar history, up there with Gwyn Paltrow's "It's all me!" speech.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh whatever Ally, like you saw that coming. Like I said, I may just have a soft spot for Italians. I dunno, I absolutely hate him, but it was a cool moment, what with all the society matrons checking to see if their bobby pins were all still in place.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And yes, I did cry. so STOP BOTHERING ME.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Waking Life is a fabulous film, Ally. I only just saw it last week and was bowled over by it. Sure its very abstract but beautiful and enjoyable.

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tracer, you are SUCH a total wussbag, jesus. You're like Ethan Hawke wussbag, is it true all of a sudden he had a big bruise on his face last night? I think Jada Pinkett Smith punched him, that's why Will Smith disappeared suddenly half-way thru. Anyhow, I actually might be able to get some people to vouch for me on this - I did expect Begnini to do that. I said before the show on the old newsgroups, I hope Begnini doesn't win (besides the obvious reasons of him being horrible) because he'll pull that running around shit he always does. He's done that at like at least three other awards shows that I've seen bits of. That's his "thing", acting all "cute" and "Balki Bartokomous-like". *vomits*

Waking Life isn't abstract, it's bollocks. The storyline is complete rubbish, the philosophy is complete rubbish, and it has Ethan Hawke in it. RUBBISH.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I honestly don't know for sure if Ethan Hawke is a good actor, but he's a cutie-pie, no? And yeah, he did have a bruise on his face last night... I thought it was strange he didn't attempt to cover it up with makeup--unless he got the bruise during the ceremony. I liked Waking Life, but have to admit that I took a date to it, and he fell asleep.

Sean, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Waking Life is abstract, beautiful, AND rubbish all at once (not to mention annoyingly clever and irritatingly self-conscious), but I think that was intentional to begin with. Damn sight better than the execrable Shrek (bleck!) and the tedious Monsters Inc.

What's odd, is that I would have expected Broadbent to win (or even be nominated) for his role in Moulin Rouge, and not Iris.

Best Hobbit? Peter Jackson himself. Proof here

Chris Barrus, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Weren't the animated spots during the soundtrack medley the greatest thing ever? And Hugh Grant really couldn't read the autocue. I thought it was just a gag. If Sidney Poitier broke down so many race barriers, why were there no white people in his montage? And I loved the way everyone reading the autocue (I presume) sounded like Mayor Quimby.

Graham, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ethan Hawke is NOT cute, he looks like a weasel. And he didn't come to the ceremony with a bruise - we were just going thru photos deciding what dresses we liked instead of actually doing work, and his face was fine in the red carpet photos with Uma. I've decided Jada had nothing to do with it, but rather Russell Crowe did it, to steal his woman. He punched Ethan, threw Uma over his back, and ran off like the wild freak he is. And all Ethan could do about it was cry, because his name is Ethan for god's sake and he looks like a weasel, what is he going to do against RUSSELL! CROWE!

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He could read bits of his novel to him. The agony!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Crowe would challenge with a snippet from his terrible band.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aw, Ethan is a cute name. Is it strange that he and Russell Crowe both have birdlike surnames?

Sean, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Penelope Spheeris' series of documentary clips made it seem like 75% of all documentaries are about rock music. That was odd.

The realest moment: The appearance of THOTH! Nobody knew what to make of him, he was great. He looked like an Aztec Carrot Top. Or something. Is he big in NYC?

I hate Halle Berry. That felt like the fakest moment to me, quite an accomplishment. I thought Sissy would win it for breaking a plate. But she didn't, and I thought she looked kinda pissed, too.

Whoopie was great, even when the jokes fell flat. Was it my imagination, or did she have some catty jokes about Halle right after she won? "Oh, thanks ever so for breaking down the door for us, Halle" or something like that? If so, that was a pretty real moment. Maybe I misread it, though.

I love Lord of the Rings. I thought it was cute when the camera showed Ian M. and his Kiwi Love Bitch holding hands. Gwyneth looked like she was wearing one of those fake "ripped guy" muscle t-shirts under her gown. I'm sick of Josh Harnett's non-hairdo, it's his thing. "Oh, isn't it adorable how un-styled he is, he's so aw shucks natural." Not that he isn't really cute. Sometimes I like J Lo. Her Valley of the Dolls/That Girl hairdo was pretty cool, nobody takes chances like that anymore. Well, I guess Celine Dion did with that backwards pimp suit a few years ago.

That Cirque D'Soleil thing was the best performance I've ever seen on the Oscars. I don't know, I've always thought they were a sort of cute, "edgy", yawn-inspiring bunch of circus hipsters. They're way better than that.

Arthur, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

crowe-jock & emo-hawke both = deep puddles of impotent selfimportance

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ok, Arthur's right, I was only momentarily distracted by Ethan Hawke and his bruise; it really is all about Josh Hartnett. I'm not sick of his messy hair! In fact I only dream of ways to mess it up further. I guess now that he's a Big Star I'll be sick of him soon, but for right now he is my New Boyfriend. I'll let you all know how things go, but don't expect details, I'm discreet.

And just who is Toby McGuire? I guess I could look him up, but gosh he's so dorky and bland I had to laugh a little. Maybe he's cuter in real life... I know Josh is!

Sean, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, Tobey McGuire, big deal. He's the mousy Elijah Wood.

Arthur, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1) Acting like animated characters are real people = totally annoying.

2) Is it me, or did John Williams reference his own work more than any other film composer, during the soundtrack homage?

3) Audience's thoughts during Arthur Hiller's speech: "Okay, be polite. Must not look bored. Man, the Cirque du Soleil wuz awesssssome!!!!"

4) Experimenting with Acceptance Speeches:

a) I think i t would be great if for one Oscar ceremony, instead of thanking their wives and children, each and every recipient thanked Gene Simmons of KISS instead.

b) If that can't be done, then how about this: every person who is thanked by the main recipient and is present at the ceremony then gets to go up and in turn gets to go up and thank others, and so forth...

Joe, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wasn't the soundtrack montage indeed a homage to John Williams?

Samantha, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Waking life has a plot but thereis no way of knowing what it is until the end of the film. I'll not say what it is as asying anything about more than the overall look and feel of the film would spoil it for people.

Abstract in film can be good, so what if the is no real beginning middle or enf.

Ed, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Was it my imagination, or did she have some catty jokes about Halle right after she won? "Oh, thanks ever so for breaking down the door for us, Halle" or something like that? If so, that was a pretty real moment. Maybe I misread it, though.

That was an ENORMOUS misreading. I would bet all of my money and my life that everything Whoopi said was 100% genuine (and [irrationally, so no apology is necessary, I'll get over it] I got mildly offended when I read your interpretation).

Sometimes I like J Lo. Her Valley of the Dolls/That Girl hairdo was pretty cool, nobody takes chances like that anymore.

This is because no one wants to look like they've put a chinchilla on the top of their head except Christina Aguilera.

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Q: what did Mamet say about editing??

Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

haha i just realised i missed the ENTIRE OSCARS because i was busy archiving ILM: oh i SO RULE THIS BEEYOTCH SUCKAHzOr glamour thy name is MARK S etc etc

(i think a beautiful mind DID deal w.nash's sexuality but admittedly in a very extremely elliptical way => could a movie even be made (by anyone) that was direct and UNelliptical abt paranoid schizophrenia AND bisexuality AND higher mathematics...?)

mark s, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Crowe would challenge with a snippet from his terrible band.

...like that song he wrote about Jodie Foster not sleeping with him because she's a lesbian. It'd become an all-out celebrity deathmatch then.

Okay, on an unrelated note, I SAW the end of Waking Life. It didn't make the story and dialog any less cheeseball, corny, PHI101 crap. Abstract can be good, but more often than not abstract is horrible because the directors who do it are so up their own asses with their impressedness with themselves that they can't see the forest for the trees. Which brings us to Richard Linklater.

And I still don't think thinking that Whoopi Goldberg was cracking jokes about Halle Berry (which is a weird interpretation, what the hell?) is as offensive as hearing someone repeatedly refer to her as a hillbilly fucking race rider. I'm still waiting for an explanation for that. I thought her acceptance speech was obnoxious, and I think Halle Berry is insane, but regardless she is a decent actress and just because precious ice queen Kidman (who looked like she was going to murder while Halle was on stage, incidentally! What's up with the sore losers this year, her, Spacek, Crowe...) didn't win for godawful Moulin Rouge doesn't justify calling her nasty names.

Ally, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*I really need to keep asking this. Am I the only person who has actually seen Training Day? Denzel Washington is terrible in it; he's like the least convincing bad ass corrupt cop ever, in history.*

Ally, I'd be surprised if more than half the country saw it, since it came out just before 11th September. I've seen Denzel do better in other flicks ("Glory" is a personal fave). It's not like the Oscar judges are actually original: "Hey, we gave it to him once....I know! Let's do it again, and look REALLY hip."

Though seeing Sidney Poitier win it WAS pretty cool....

Jumping up to read anthony's rant of the moment....

Nichole Graham, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That sitcom was The High Life wasn't it? Broadbent was in this sitcom The Peter Principle a few years ago - about a bank manager, I actually rather liked it. And he's been good for years and years and it's nice to finally see him get recognition - he seems to have popped up in pretty much everything I see at some point. Maybe he's had growing subliminal recognition?

Bill, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally, I haven't commented on Anthony's rant because I haven't read it yet because I'm at work and haven't taken the time to read any posts longer than 5 lines. Out of context, it sounds more like he's making fun of the premise of the movie than her.

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't think Whoopi was cracking jokes about Halle, but I'm not sure what would be so offensive about the idea that she was. Wouldn't it be more of a "oh you kicked open the doors for me, did you? I was kicking open doors before you were born" kind of thing? That would be petty, but not offensive in the way I think Dan and Ally understood it to be. Help me out here.

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh forget it - I reread ally's post and she said she didn't think it was that offensive, and Dan said something similar. don't mind me.

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sheesh

fritz, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fritz, since you asked ever so nicely...:

Whoopi was just being sarky, as per usual. Thank God, since I was about to choke from the level of earnestness. Spacey's asking for the "moment of silence" was a neat touch, but did we REALLY need Woody Allen? Why show up this year, when he couldn't be bothered before? "Mr. New York" is usually too precious for that.

About Anthony's rant: * Halle, you egotistic bitch, Lena Horne could act you out of anything . You forgot Eartha and Josephine and Nina . Even Angela Basset can out act you - fuck anyone can out act you and Ms. Basset can out act anyone - watching such a hysteric and dull performance get an award that should have gone to a million other actresses and then watching you bawling like a woman whose seen jesus, it makes one sick. That and thanking everyone you have ever met including yr lawyers twice, pathetic . * Yeah, I know yr the first black actress to win this award but just because you fucked the hillbilly and talked about Race doesn't make you any one of talent.

***(stifling my laughter) Anthony, you're the little monster I hope to have, someday;>

Halle's speech was not any worse than any other; just bloody hysterical for 10 minutes.

I was ready to leap through the TV, and drag her off stage.

At 4 1/2 hours, the show was already too damn long. All of us don't live on California time.***

Nichole Graham, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

* Seeing Ryan Phillipe climb into his wives cunt was amusing

We got to see Reese's pussy? I can't believe I missed it!! d'oh!!

Was it my imagination or did Kate Winslet have a cold? She kept playing with the end of her nose and sniffing

electric sound of jim, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wasn't the soundtrack montage indeed a homage to John Williams?

Well, the montage also featured work by Bernard Herrmann, Ennio Morricone, Maurice Jarre, Alfred Newman (no not THAT Alfred Newman), James Horner, etc. I thought it was just Williams was conducting it. Of course, it all got very soundbyte-ish anyway, like a big "Hooked on Movie Themes" commercial. Strange that they would choose Herrmann's "Citizen Kane" over "Vertigo", and Jarre's "Dr. Zhivago" over "Lawrence of Arabia", if it was supposed to be a 'Greatest of ALL Time' (echo echo echo) montage...

Joe, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Am I the only one who felt that Denzel Washington's performance was great. Being that I work at a middle school for juvenile deliquents Denzel Washington's performance is very convincing. Indeed his mannerisms and speech are quite ghetto which is what you expect from a corrupt black LAPD cop who's involved gangbanging. On the issue of Halle Berry acceptance speech very cringe inducing indeeed.

MICHELINE, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Halle Berry in Monsters Ball plays a highly sexualized other, who seduces the racist Billy Bob Thorton, thru her exoticism . The film is a long line of miscegenation dramas(sp) imbued with a racial hysteria . The fuck the hillbilly comment was meant to indicate something cast as a searing race drama was nothing more or less sophistacated then Mandigo. The screen payy and the acting become racist in themselves, with thier depections of African Americans as noble or savage but not both , and the whole impriosned angle was too simpliistic .
Race is such an ager binary in America and the culture surrounding its depctions encourage this dichotmy (sp)
And if i was racist what about my comments about Potier or Washington ?

anthony, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

don't sweat it anthony; we can't all reach the kael-esque heights of "[x] is terrible and should be blown up."

i hadn't heard of half the movies nominated until last night. i am outta da loop, permanently i think.

jess, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I actually wasn't sure what Whoopi said after Halle won--there was a lot of cocktail chatter going on at the time--hence the tentative nature of my comments. I thought she was making some good-natured catty remarks, but obviously I heard wrong.

I can say with absolute conviction, though, that the world would be a much better place if more stars looked like they put a chinchilla on the top of their heads. ;>{+}

It's so hard to find the right emoticon.

Arthur, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The best comment I read concerning Halle Berry's Oscar was that her performance in Monsters Balls, while yes, emotional, was very over- the-top. It was though they were giving her an Oscar at the delightful discovery that she can act. The whole "well the door has been opened thanks to me" comment is a bit frustrating. Yeah, the door has been opened if you have nice breasts and look like a pretty white girl with a tan. Gee whiz, ain't she such a cutie in those Revlon ads.

Evangeline, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry. Monster's Ball, not "Monsters Balls", that's another thread.

Evangeline, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i would slap my tseticles against ethan hwakers face but I wouldn't let my runniest of turds cross russel crowe's lips.

ryan oneal and ally what'sherface - what the fuck was that? as if love story was anything but an excuse to put some pictures along with anice song.

Queen G, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A Beuitiful Mind did a disserivce to John Nash, stripping off any complexity to allow Middle America to feel comfortable with a hero who fits into the hetrosexualzation of diease of the week narratives.

I agree to a point, but didn't Nash himself deny any involvement into matters with the same sex?

JC, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm not calling you racist, Anthony. I'm calling you childish and obnoxious. Two very different things. But you already know I think that, so what's the biggie?

And yes, Nash himself has denied it. I don't see how rumors of homosexual experimentation really has anything to do with the core story of A Beautiful Mind or how throwing it in randomly would've really improved the storyline of the movie, which is how this person overcame his disability.

Ally, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Being that I work at a middle school for juvenile deliquents Denzel Washington's performance is very convincing.

Wait, I only just read this, this is the funniest thing I've ever, ever read. So Denzel's performance as an adult cop on the wrong side of the law is comparitively convincing to 13-year-old juvenile delinquents? Thank you, thank you for proving my point so much better than I ever could. I bow down and worship you.

I still say the ultimate proof is that they had to cast weasel-face wuss-bag as his foe and not someone actually interesting or threatening. It's like that Charlie's Angels thing I had a problem with, the best villian they could take on was THE THIN MAN??? Ooooh, where's Belle & Sebastian Fan and the Pothead?

Ally, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Re: Monster's Ball. Anthony what were the portrayals of black people as savages in this movie? I don't think that was there at all.

evageline says: Yeah, the door has been opened if you have nice breasts and look like a pretty white girl with a tan. MEE-OOW. ;)

re: Nash and Beautiful Mind. I think the homosexuality, or more accurately hypersexuality, is as key of a part of the diesase as the delusions. Ron Howard and company do a diservice to Nash, other schizophrenics and the audience by cowardly leaving this out. I'm reading this book now -- so far I could have done without all the math clique namedropping. bleh.

Samantha, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think i am childsih and obnoxious and Samantha explained it alot better then i did ,

anthony, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Berry's speech = overrated obnoxious bollox (thankfully not overrated here on ILx).

Ally's polemic = fun.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

erm i totally accept samantha's point about hypersexuality and schizophrenia in the abstract, but if you make a biopic about some who is STILL ALIVE and they say "I didn't do [x]", then it's not so much cowardly to omit [x], as common sense, at least if you want the film to appear anywhere except district court 15...

mark s, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's the difference between including disputed events in a book and in a movie?

Samantha, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well, likely audience for one thing — so that if nash had stepped up and said "this is all lies" on the day of release it could have wrecked the first-weekend box office in a way it wouldn't have done for a book (or actually more likely pushed box office up, but wrecked howard's idea of himself as a serious legit auteur*); legally possibly none at all, i was thinking — if at all — with UK head really, not US constitution head... so yeah, "cowardly" maybe is the right word < p> (from nash's own pov, of course, watching russell crowe do things you don't want ppl to know you did is surely way worse than reading about things you don't want ppl to know you did..., so he might let a book go while gritting his teeth, on the grounds that no one reads books, but fight to stop a film)

mark s, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

LEAVE ME ALONE

John, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jennifer Connolly is such a pretty girl, why did she look like Lara Flynn Boyle last night?

I thought she looked like Nelly Furtado.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The deliquents I work with have committed murder, prostitution, and other crimes just because they're thirteen year olds doesn't mean that they're little innocents.

MICHELINE, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

look like a pretty white girl with a tan

Bullshit. I suppose she isn't a *proper* black woman, but just some 'uppity high yella'. No doubt you'd be complaining about the academy's ingrained racism if Spacek or Dench had got the oscar instead of Berry.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But they're both superior actors

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the math clique namedropping is the best part of the book!

dave k, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am going to put some context on the "doors are open" commentary; it was not coming from a "I am so great, look what I've done for you" standpoint. It was coming from a "I can't believe this is happening, I'm so lucky, and the best part is that it can happen again" standpoint. Halle Berry isn't the first black woman to win an Oscar, but she is the first black woman to win Best Actress. In a perfect world, this wouldn't matter; however, we live in an emphatically unperfect world and it absolutely DOES matter. The fact that there are better black actresses out there is completely irrelevant to core issue, as far as I'm concerned.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

While I didn't watch the ceremony and can't comment on Berry's speech in particular, it seems that what Dan says = quite a right vision on things. The world not being perfect, every step counts.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Agreed. I also think she looked very pretty.

Did the camera ever show Laura Elena Harring and her 27 million dollar necklace and million dollar shoes? I only saw her in still photos afterwards. She looked pretty too, and had a nice dress.

Sean, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm in love with you.. I'm in love with you.

N., Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

LEAAVE ME ALONE.

Sam, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh yes that's me, raging against the academy's ingrained racism like a mad old woman. Shoot me before I start foaming at the mouth please. Right, I'm off to protest the academy's rejection of Un Crabe Dans La Tête. How dare they ignore french canadian shellfish.

Evangeline, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just read that Ethan Hawke's bruise was actually a lipstick smudge from getting kissed by Denzel Washington's wife.

Nick: Have you ever done this before?

Sean, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nine years pass...

i was thinking: I wish instead of having 5 Best Picture nominees or 10 Best Picture nominees, it was just open-ended and they nominated however many movies they thought were worthy of consideration. if done correctly, it would make "just being nominated was an honor" less of a meaningless cliche.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 4 April 2011 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Enjoying Steve Pond's The Big Show, which follows the Academy Award broadcasts from 1994 to 2004. I thought I was starting a history of the enterprise (you get that in the first chapter), but it only covers that time frame, and the primary focus are the broadcasts more than the actual awards. A gossipy, basically meaningless subject treated soberly--often my favourite kind of book.

How Hoop Dreams missed being nominated

http://phildellio.tripod.com/pond.jpg

They still miss Frederick Wiseman every time, so whatever fix they came up with only partially worked.

clemenza, Monday, 2 July 2018 14:30 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Hoo boy.

Change is coming to the #Oscars. Here's what you need to know:

- A new category is being designed around achievement in popular film.
- We've set an earlier airdate for 2020: mark your calendars for February 9.
- We're planning a more globally accessible, three-hour telecast. pic.twitter.com/oKTwjV1Qv9

— The Academy (@TheAcademy) August 8, 2018

"A new category is being designed around achievement in popular film." = "Finally superhero movies and Adam Sandler phone-ins will get the Oscars they've been cheated out of." /eyeroll

Eliza D., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:51 (seven years ago)

extra time has been added to the broadcast for academy members to literally jerk each other off on stage

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:52 (seven years ago)

so they're going back to their Wings / Sunrise roots

I think we can pencil in Black Panther for the virtue signaling pop award

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:55 (seven years ago)

it's good that they're figuring out a way to keep tony art films like The Shape of Water ($189 M worldwide gross) from dominating

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)

wow can't believe the oscars is gonna have a 'best kiss' category now wtf

a space stewardess (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

needs a biggest explosion category. best use of teal and orange. I could go on.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)

Jokes aside, there should be an award for casting and for stunt work. Even if they aren't part of the telecast.

Eliza D., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:13 (seven years ago)

An Oscar for stunt work is a commercial-break Oscar category if there ever was one.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:11 (seven years ago)

Then again, all the categories actually worth presenting to the world are all going to get delegated to commercial breaks anyway.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)

Finally! The evening will be a lovely night in front of the fire.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

it's good that they're figuring out a way to keep tony art films like The Shape of Water ($189 M worldwide gross) from dominating

I get what you're saying, but $189 M is pocket change to Marvel and Star Wars.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:24 (seven years ago)

yeah, i think we both know Paul Schrader can stay home next winter

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:27 (seven years ago)

^^You say that now, but just you wait until you see his gritty reboot of The Elongated Man!

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:44 (seven years ago)

The Oscars I care the most about:

Best Foreign Film
Best Documentary
Best Documentary Short
Best Live-Action Short
Best Cinematography ...

Huh, maybe I'm not the one to make suggestions about how they can stay relevant after all.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:56 (seven years ago)

Oscars: The Academy Confirms Movies Eligible for Best Popular Film Can Also Compete for Best Picture

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

These sound like good changes that should have happened at least 20 years ago.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 22:07 (seven years ago)

Twenty years ago, the biggest movie of the year was Titanic and it won all the awards, so.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:29 (seven years ago)

four weeks pass...

lol

https://variety.com/2018/film/awards/academy-retreats-on-popular-oscar-category-for-now-1202930117/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 September 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)

seven years pass...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/oscars-bolt-from-abc-to-youtube-starting-in-2029-1236453188/

In news that will send shockwaves across the entertainment industry, the Oscars ceremony, which has aired on ABC since 1976, will be moving to YouTube starting in 2029 and will be broadcast by the streamer through at least 2033, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced Wednesday.

The Disney-owned Alphabet Network will continue to air the Oscars — long the world’s most watched awards telecast — through the 100th edition of the awards show in 2028. After that, the ceremony will be available live and for free to over two billion people around the world on YouTube, and to YouTube TV subscribers in the United States.

Honestly, I am OK with this, especially if it means that the show can evolve into something that doesn't have to appeal to network TV viewers or be limited by network TV constraints. My only concern is whether I will be able to sign up for a free trial of YouTube TV each year.

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:42 (five months ago)

Mark Harris on Bluesky:

"Seriously: I think this is weird, but that's because I'm old and like it when silly rituals stay the same. That sentimentality aside, unyoking the Academy Awards from a network that has seemed increasingly annoyed by their requirements could (COULD, not WILL) be great and liberating."

"Best-case scenario: The Oscars get to be themselves. No length worries, the honorary awards start streaming, things loosen up. Worst case: This is a desperate attempt to youthify, and the result will look like [how-do-you-do-fellow-kids.gif]"

jaymc, Wednesday, 17 December 2025 20:46 (five months ago)


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