Nirvana Epiphany

third: poly styrene

not all songs by these various foax live up to the standard set by their throats

Mark, would you marry me?

Repetition = bad? You're just trying to fuck up my Saturday.

These gents may have a bone to pick with you on that point.

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"Come As You Are" is one of the best 100 singles of the 90s.

They never made a bad song and I like 'em plenty (obtusely sensitive and profound lyrics sometimes, remarkably evocative voice, great melodies, some clever chord changes, surprisingly abrasive and wide-ranging album in In Utero). But the Beatles obviously had a much more substantial catalogue - more varied and sophisticated songwriting, more emotional variety, greater quantity of work, more interesting arrangements and production. Public Enemy was probably more important.

I recently read Heavier Than Heaven which got me back into Nirvana a bit. Part of the reason they were so big is because Cobain was such an interesting character--so many conflicts & contradictions. It's easy to relate to his weaknesses.

Mark: I'm really not the best person to judge but when I like Eminem and NWA songs it's not primarily because of the production. I never really liked Doggystyle. His other stuff I don't know well.

As for the subject at hand:

Also wish that he wasn't partially responsible for the "lyrics don't matter in the slightest - I'll just mumble" reasoning.

You make this sound like a bad thing!

On a conscious level, maybe.. I've always assumed it was a song about suicide, but then again I think EVERY song is about suicide (except for "Baby One More Time" which is clearly about spousal abuse)

that's actually the title of the box set coming out next year

Wha? How's they do that?

I'd agree 100% with this. Kurt was a very good writer of tunes, but not a great lyricist. However, the fact that he later killed himself makes his words more interesting. It makes Nirvana more interesting as a band. The context is all.

Judged on music, they're still pretty damn good. My favourite is "About a Girl". I never developed a strong attatchment to them, like many of my generation, but I can't argue with the noisy pop songwriting.

This listen actually made me want to buy the new comp. I'd get "You Know You're Right," a few from Bleach, and some of the best from the two Geffen albums. I wish "Aneurysm-live" was on it, though.

"You Know You're Right" is so strong and is so dramatic that it makes me further mourn the loss of a clearly evolving songwriter and make me even more adamant in my refusal to overrate the works he did create.

Snoop is fucking amazing in that song! ("I got a feelin'/Tonight's the night like Betty Wright/And I'm chillin'/Killin'/Not feelin'/no remorse/So let's take it back to tha motherfuckin' source..." okay, so probably not verbatim, but you know, off the top of my head!)

(And, uh, that's all I want to say about that...)

But, none of this changes the amazing love I feel for them now. And I don't think it's nostalgia. It feels new! It gives me a shock whenever I remember that it was 12 years ago that Nevermind came out.

My more useful Nirvana epiphany happened c. 1999 when I listened to Nevermind for the first time in a couple of years and thought, "It's so obvious this is great, why didn't I see this before?" Nirvanamania - it can strike any time. You could be next! (And this is good, because loving music is good, if you recall.)

And since when did lyrics not matter to Kurt?

My Beatles epiphanies are regular events; every few months another song rises from "very good" to "great". Latest was "There's a Place" midyear. Due for another one.

people who care about their lyrics do this amazing thing called enunciation, which allows each syllable to be understood. They do NOT say "Polly wants a cracker/thinksashesanicewarmphew".

I dunno about that -- define 'care.' The Pixies had a fair amount of enunication for a band that made up its lyrics about whatever the hell.

I loved em too. In Utero is the best - so beautifully fucked up.

the 'new' track is very bad as well. but that's what you get when you sign up to a major label (they are evil!).

that live disc was pointless as well. they don't play incerdibly diff versions of the songs anyway.

mark s, the editorship of the nme is yours for the asking.

For this horrible affront alone, Kurt should be resurrected and then slain again.

What should be done about that nonsense known as BUSH?

nirvana did it very damn well.

Guess I wasn't clear, cuz--I weren't actually in neither camp at the time, have since grown to appreciate both (typically, sometime after the Pixies broke up and then when ... well, you get the picture).

In Utero is fucking amazing, Heart-Shaped Box is one of the finest songs ever, and there's nothing wrong with garage rock, unoriginal or otherwise--as long as, like you say, it's done well (another obviously subjective criterion, but still).

I was just saying most Pixies fans I knew were into the Pixies well before Nirvana broke, most resisted 'grunge' etc, and as far as 'paving the way' I've usually remembered a somewhat reversed scenario--the Pixies, along with things like REM and then Jane's Addiction and the Chili Peppers and your Cures and other depressed-suburban-demographic popsters etc--as having softened things up for the Coming of Nirvana.

But maybe my memory's bad?

nirvana's decision to put two meat puppets songs on their mtv "unplugged" special and three m.p. tunes on the "unplugged" album was worth several hundred thousand dollars to curt kirkwood in royalties. THAT is paying tribute to your forebears.

Oh, and here's a second vote for "Heart Shaped Box" as a truly great, great song. In fact, they wrote and recorded a surprisingly large number of great songs in their short history.

I liked Nirvana a lot then, and I still like Nirvana a lot now. They can't be blamed for grunge. Kurt Cobain was a complex, contradictory character (If Heavier Than Heaven is to be believed), and an excellent songwriter. His voice is one of the five best in rock music history. The whole death cult is sad but inevitable.

Nirvana were one of the great American rock bands. But, even more than Joy Division (it's conceivable that, had Ian Curtis survived, a New Order-like entity would have evolved anyway), we never got to see where they would take it, which is kind of frustrating and kind of heartbreaking (the Unplugged thing was perhaps a tantalising hint, with its blues and Bowie).

I'll shut up 'cos I could spout a lot more, and it's all been said, really.

That being said, I think that Kurt solo would have been 100x more likely to totally break out of any genre constraints.

But the R.E.M. reference is the most pertinent here. Michael Stipe and Kurt Cobain were at the very least discussing, if not planning, a musical collaboration right up to the latter's death.

These gents may have a bone to pick with you on that point.

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I can't tell if this is a Boston reference or not.

I actually turned off my stero when this song came on the other night.

It's better to brun out than to fade away.

Y'know, Anthony, the fact that you can actually stand up and admit to liking otherwise criminally indefensible garbage like Good Charlotte, Linkin Park and the fuckin' Vines almost makes you superhuman in some way, and I tip my hat to you out of sheer, mindblown awe.

Whoa there, little lady. He may have had style (or maybe even an "anti-style"), but really....let's not confuse that with talent, shall we? If the man did have any talent, it had more to do with songwriting than anything else.

My impromptu POX:

1. Pennyroyal Tea
2. Something In the Way
3. All Apologies
4. Territorial Pissings
5. Heart-Shaped Box
6. School
7. the Where Did You Sleep Last Night? cover
8. Dumb
9. Come As You Are
10.Drain You

Yeah, if he had tried to show off his "ability" it would have sounded a whole lot worse

(I do agree on the random chords + melody thing, although "Lithium" is the only example I can think of)

pop guitar ability is 30 percent in the fingers and 60 percent in the brain. no one has ever discovered where the final 10 percent comes from.

kurt cobain had amazing pop guitar ability. and he had that final 10 percent for absolute sure.

You obviously know little about the Gish/Butch Vig/Nevermind recording history.

Not quite sure about the "still is" part. Well, he certainly is "still".

Lots of people felt that way about Hitler too.

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Also, "some people love them and some people hate them" = a description for every band/artist evah, and that's no reason why we shouldn't analyze the strengths and weaknesses of these bands.

What does their influence on Silverchair have to do with anything?

Since when does lack of technical proficiency have anything to do with whether a band is great or not? And by that I'm specifically referring to Kurt's simplistic guitar skills. This seems to be the number one reason why people dismiss Nirvana so quickly (actually number two after their 'canonized' status), which I strongly disagree with. (By most people's standards, not mine, he would probably lose in a "guitar-off" against someone like ... oh I don't know, .. Satriani.) I have no doubt that although his chords and solos were simple, they were all thought out very carefully. The way I see it, the only thing any band should worry about being technically profecient in is songwriting, something Kurt excelled in tremendously.

This has been addressed!!! Did you actually read the last half of this thread?

1) Avril Lavigne
2) Outkast
3) Dizzee Rascal
4) microhouse
5) The Strokes (eg. do they hurt your head like a hundred dogs?)

SOMEBODY HOLD HER DOWN BEFORE SHE GETS AWAY!!!

yeah that song was about kurt cobain written by Soundgarden called Black Hole Sun

one of my favorites...

uh yeah im bored how bout someone starts talking to me on here :) maybe the times are different where u live so everyones sleepin

well its 11:12pm here and im pretty damn bored

"Hey Ya" to thread

See, the thing is that Corgan's studio sessions for Gish took about as long (which is probably the main determinant in cost of recording) as Siamese Dream's did. Corgan and Vig obsessively experimented for about four months to get the production as it is on Gish, which Vig essentially then used as the initial template to (relatively) quickly put together Nevermind.

So Virgin was willing to throw that much money into a debut album pre-Nevermind. And it exceeded projected sales figures well before the Nirvana-effect hit full force. You forget that plenty of other bands like Mudhoney were already selling units in the six-figures before Nirvana. The entire 1991/1992 crop of albums does not owe their success wholly to Nevermind. Corgan and Vig were going to get all the studio time they wanted, Cobain or not, because that type of music was already experiencing a semi-mainstream success, albeit not at the insane level that Nirvana and Pearl Jam would achieve.

In fact, the better question perhaps is how much of an influx of sales did the forbears and contemporaries of Nirvana really achieve in their wake? Because I have trouble believing that groups like Mudhoney's sales and popularity really were elevated much in ways that wouldn't have happened anyway; most of the rest of the Seattle scene that went huge probably were going to explode with or without Cobain.

was just that, should I say.

"Black Hole Sun" is N O T about Kurt Cobain.

Not at all - merely that it may have been a little hypocritical of Killing Joke to have accused Nirvana of ripping off a riff from them, when they had in fact ripped it off from someone else.

Crazed monomaniacal dictators? Dabbling in the occult? The bass line in "Eighties"? Where on earth could they have got ideas like those from?!?

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Can't remember the title, but there's supposedly ANOTHER swiping of that riff (this time invariably cribbed from its Nirvana incarnation) on the Puddle of Mudd album.

Damned > Killing Joke > Nirvana > Puddle Of Mudd > ....(? pond life?)

That is quite a dramatic drop at the end 'though - looks like there should be another three.... maybe even four hundred bands after Nirvana in that sequence!

Oh and it's a mistake to refer to them in the past tense too my friend - brabnd shiny new DVD out this week....

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http://www.officialdamned.com/

.... and if my ugly mug isn't in it after enduring the whole of that gig front and centre, then I shall be demanding my (Lovely) Money back!

Are you accusing Killing Joke of this? Go listen to Night Time, Brighter Than a Thousand Suns, Outside the Gate and Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions in that order, then come back to me and try to make that same accusation.

OK, Night Time is excellent but Brighter Than A Thousand Suns is a good EP and a load of filler and Outside The Gate is just crap!

Mind you, Extremities, Dirt.... is probably the greatest back-from-the-dead album since Machine Gun Etiquette!

Perhaps you forget that I was an early Joke devotee who followed them around all over the place between '80 and '83 (I've seen them maybe 50-60 times?) and probably bought all these albums the day they came out?!

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What makes you so sure of that Alex? Uh I heard Chris Cornell say it dude. The whole song isn't about Kurt Cobain but that one line is. Find out the facts before you go accusing what is true or not true.

For a start, do your fourteen-year-old self a considerable favor and strike the word "dude" from your vocabulary. Moreover, learn some proper punctuation (there should've been a comma between it and dude).

The whole song isn't about Kurt Cobain but that one line is. Find out the facts before you go accusing what is true or not true.

Cite a credible source before making equally presumptious accusations.

Moreover, Superunknown (the album containing "Black Hole Sun") was released before Kurt ventilated his head. Not long before, mind you, but still prior to that particular event.

Just what exactly are you a doctor of, C.?

And maybe we misunderstood each other...I know it came out before Kurt "killed" himself. It came out in March of '94. But in an interview i saw on MTV he said that The line "Noone sings like you anymore." was for Kurt...Not meaning that at the time he wrote it it was for Kurt but after Kurts death he said it will be about Kurt.

Where did I say I don't like the Monochrome Set? Cite the exact time and place please!! Actually don't bother...you're right they're rubbish.

What do I know? Nothing about honouring fires - I was just stirring the pot a bit - the old pompositometer was edging up towards the red zone in this thread.

That smacks of mawkish revisionism at its worst, and makes me want to go snap my Soundgarden discs in half.

OK, it was October 26th, 2001 2:00 AM right here.

The precise words you used were "Awful beyond words".

"Actually don't bother...you're right they're rubbish."

Ouch! See? You did it again! And you're still wrong, cos they were great!

[Gaz to thread! Have you given The Set a listen yet? What do you think?]

NO! Don't do that! That would be a terrible waste!

Keep them 'til next Spring, then thread them on bits of string, hang them over your flower beds and you'll find they're really handy for stopping birds eating all your new plants.

Honor The Seedlings!

This was also written about Kurt, you see

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but Gish wasn't on Virgin.

that riff seems to be going around a lot these days. living colour rip off "i saw your mommy..." on "operation mind control," a track on their reunion album.

It was on their subsidiary label, Caroline.

"By this time, Virgin Records had picked up on the Pumpkins' scent and inked a new deal with the band. They signed them to their independent subsidiary, Caroline, which would later be resold to another independent Virgin subsidiary, Hut. The deal stipulated that the first album would be released on Caroline, and that all subsequent releases would be on Virgin. This was widely considered a move to slowly ease them from the indie scene to the mainstream."

Yeah, but was Caroline records really considered an "indie," given its not-entirely-secretive connection to the giant corporate behemoth? Not that it matters, mind you. I just think saying that the Smashing Pumpkins started as an "indie band" is sort've a distortion of truth.

Smashing Pumpkins weren't formeded until 1988;
The word "Indie" ceased to be in any way meaningful around 1985.

all this fuss over LAST DAYS and a quick watch of
MTV LIVE AND LOUD from 93 (with my jaw on the floor it has to be said) has me in the mood for the fulll biog action.

This has been addressed!!! Did you actually read the last half of this thread?

Apparently not. Jesus, relax. Did I attack you?

I figured this might be the best place to post that I had an epiphany regarding Nirvana last night while watching the MTV Live And Loud concert, which is that they're my favorite band ever. (I thought it was Ween for so long. I was close, but wrong.) So I would have to say "yes" to the first three questions, and I'm thinking it was not "just" Kurt's magic, but about 90% of it was. He just happened to be smart enough to get 3 other outstanding performers along with him. (And incidentally, I never realized what a great rock star Pat Smear is.)

Also speaking in terms of Kurt Cobain's legendary stature, I think his was a perfectly executed career (pun possibly intended), and I'm thinking he's sort of like my own James Dean in a way. Something about this particular show, however, really confused me as to how more modern bands don't aspire to be what they were. I've been going to concerts for 10 years and I've never seen a band move on stage like that. (The closest was probably Local H.)

NIRVANA WAS SHIT is the epiphany you must have if you have more than one brain cell in your head

I have no rebuttal.

heavier than heaven is a dud for that line about kathleen hanna and tobi vail "prattling on about sexism." courtney-influenced bullshit.

the Joy Division comparison is apt.and New Order>>>>>Foo Fighters

-- Alex in NYC

Inventive isn't everything.

This is somewhat akin to saying "Indescribably great sex>>>>>>>>>>>>>a nice tunafish sandwhich".

Inventive isn't everything.

True. But for all the praise that Nirvana enjoys, you'd think they'd have brought something a bit more original to the table. They didn't, and let's not all pretend that they did.

They just did what they did (Catchy + Rock = WIN) in a far better, more totally realised way than most of their contemporaries managed. Of course it was hardly a new idea.

I am so not caring about arguing this one further! Nirvana hating nearly always gets tedious beyond belief. Not having a go at you Alex in NYC, but I've seen many of these threads now & generally - zzz.

No, No (I think their influence faded pretty fast, if it wasn't already completely exhausted by the time Silverchair/Bush/Puddle Of Jizzz arrived) and yes, i think Kurt had a LOT to do with it.

I haven't listened to a Nirvana record all the way through in years, but they're still "that" band for me from my late-teens.

It seems so obvious now what with Hüsker Dü, Pixies, Gang of Four, and whoever else it was that came before Cobain & Co., but back then, it was very frustrating to sit in a living room in rural Arkansas on a Saturday night, and the coolest music to be heard was to be found on goddam "Headbangers' Ball". It was pick your poison time, almost literally with Rikki Rocket preferable to anything that Debbie Gibson was doing. My dad used to tell me about how he'd turn on the radio and hear greats like The Beatles, The Stones, Motown, ? and the Mysterians, usually on one radio station. I'd turn on my radio and hear Tiffany, Rick Astley, and Roxette. The "cool" bands like Faster Pussycat weren't even on the radio, though way down deep inside, I knew that those bands weren't even that cool to begin with.

So that night that I was watching MTV and saw the video for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was definitely a moment of ephiphany. Turning on the radio station that played the teeny-bopper stuff a month later and hearing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was even more so of a moment. Seeing Anthrax cover "Smells Like Teen Spirit" at an in-store performance confirmed that something was finally really happening. Many of you Gina Arnold types out there may have been aware of this change for years, but it didn't really hit home for the rest of us until Autumn, 1991, the beginning of my senior year in high school.

Anyway. No one was more disappointed and least surprised when Nirvana ended the way it did. Those radio stations moved on to playing Blues Traveler and Soul Coughing, and I moved on to those aforementioned bands that influenced Cobain in the first place. I grew up, and even went to work for one of those radio stations. By that time, the "it" music came from Limp Bizkit and P.O.D.

Sometime a few years ago, we recieved a promo copy of the unreleased Nirvana song that was going to come out on their box set. I stuck it into the office CD player, and there was my latest, probably my last, moment of epiphany from Nirvana.

After being surrounded by their bastard sons all these years, hearing "You Know You're Right" reconfirmed just how special this band had been. Gavin Rossdale could mimic the vocals, those other bands could mimic the quiet-part-followed-by-the-loud-part thing, but no one could come close to putting it all together like Nirvana. Ten years later, it was almost like hearing it for the first time.

Anyway. I wouldn't call Nirvana the greatest rock band. They're not even really my favorite band. But for what they were, Nirvana was a very important band for me, and I still think about what-could've-been every April.

Do lay off that crack pipe, Alfred. It's rotting your brain.

I think I'm probably cynical about Nirvana because I'm old enough to have hear about ninteen dozen other bands do what they did before them. And do it better.

fuck yeah

Were they better than the Beatles?

nah, that's silly.

Are they the best/most important group of the last 20 years?

not really.

Was Nirvana's magic just Kurt's magic or was it a gestalt thing?

Kurt all the way.

Artist: NIRVANA
Title: Smells Like Teen Spirit
Label: SL0W T0 SP3AK
Format: 12"
Price: $13.00
Catalog #: PRO 157EP
"Next in the continually varied, juxtaposed & repositioned series of high quality 12" reissues compiled by Sl0w To Speak's P@ul N1ck3rs0n & Fr@nc1s 3ngl3h@rdt comes a quintessential release of the prolific and incendiary Nirvana. Both at the time of their popular blooming and their continuing nostalgic re-popularization up to this day, the appeal of Nirvana's Kurt Cobain, Krist Novoselic & Dave Grohl generated a universal fascination and reverence -- across every age bracket, generational gap & genre-specific subjective inclination -- that rocketed the band to a mass-cultural adoration & emblematic importance beyond any of their wildest imaginings could have ever anticipated or foreseen. And certainly, their legacy has grown over the years with pressing & urgent vivacity, seemingly unscathed by the passing trends of popularity's fickle inclination, still drawing enough fascination & obsession with the cult of Cobain's troubled personality to have produced 2 films specifically dedicated to the dissection of his notorious neuroses & troubled self-destructiveness. Yet, far beyond the obsessive gaze on Cobain's wild personality & non-comforming defiance, the real strength of Nirvana's story, of their aggressive, militant punk-rock inspired anti-authoritarianism, their selfless hedonism and Cobain & company's poetic & disarmingly witty analysis of modern day boredom & indifference lies in the formation's miraculous victory over the major labels, over MTV trivialization, Spin & Rolling Stone's oversimplification & misrepresentation: over every popular misconception and attempted undermining that would have painted the group as just another infantile act of teenage revolt. The underlying integrity of Nirvana's aesthetic & theoretical expression simply cannot be laughed at and then forgotten along with the continuing barrage of mediocre and unsubstantial bands of their era or ours, and despite the years since, the band's impact in such a short time has stayed with us to this day, their defiant anti-musicianship and sternly do-it-yourself aesthetic & propagation while riding the financial rainbow of mass stardom reminds us that there is the possibility for a musician or band or producer or whomever it may be to 'cross over,' to win the popular mandate of culture and still retain their artistic integrity. And while it must be said that the romance around Cobain's eventual suicide has created a general nassau among any of those who truly appreciated Cobain & Nirvana's contribution -- from their dismantling of the rigid constraints of major-label acceptability to pushing the limits of the popularly acceptable in music to the limits of absurdity, perversity and subversiveness -- the lasting integrity of Nirvana's project overpowers any attempts at recuperation... at least we must hope." Silkscreened lettering on jacket in silver metallic ink.

and all that in fifteen minutes!

"I'm old enough to have heard about ninteen dozen other bands do what they did before them. And do it better."

I would love to hear these bands. I can only think of:
buzzcocks

selfless hedonism?

re-popularization
fascination
inclination
adoration
inclination
fascination
dissection
formation
trivialization
oversimplification
misrepresentation
misconception
propagation
contribution
recuperation

i just heard that list in sandler's cajun man character.

To borrow a line from "Apocalypse Now," the bullshit piled up so fast in this thread, you needed fuckin' wings to stay above it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A08Gsv5DEBk

OH SO GREAT

he isn't wearing a "hi, how are you" t-shirt under the flannel. therefore: fail.

definite increase in nirvananess recently among my circle of friends. feel like baggy 90s grunge revival is next. or maybe that already happened, i don't know.

i listened to nevermind when it came out and teen spirit was on the radio. think i was 8 or something. my next experience with them was ppl putting on the unplugged stuff while we smoked pot, all i remember from that is kurt going "something in the wayyyyy, uuuhhhhoooohhhh" and that cover of man who stole the world, found it all p annoying back then.

what's the freakiest weirdest shit they did?

ha, *sold the world.

freakiest/weirdest? If I'm understanding the question correctly, that would include Beeswax, Hairspray Queen, Milk It, Endless Nameless, Curmudgeon, Moist Vagina, Mexican Seafood ..

Mexican Seafood is unbeareable. And almost quitissential grunge, if pushed to it's most extremes.

listen to more butthole surfers

I'm sure, somewhere out there on last.fm, they're tagged as grunge but I could never really bring myself to consider a band like theirs - drifting, but somehow tightly organized - as belonging to to the same genre as Kurt's.

"Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip" is a relatively "weird" Nirvana track, definite Big Black influence.

Krist, Dave and Pat are Zionisit/Illuminati scum and you can see in this interview Krist and Pat blatantly promoting the Zionist homosexual agenda Kurt exposes in the video heart shaped box wich he had total creative control over! WAKE UP! Kurt wasn't murdered he was assassinated for outing the Zionist/Illuminati homosexual agenda and 9/11.

"hey, what's that?"

"THAT is my prized possession. An original Nirvana master tape! Cost me almost 4000 dollars."

"Wow, so what is it, unreleased music or one of their albums?"

"It's actually 3 alternate versions of the song Moist Vagina!"

"Uh..."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-reel-to-reel-Tape-NIRVANA-15ips-for-REVOX-AMPEX-AKAI-TEAC-/251261405102?hash=item3a8058c7ae&nma=true&si=HqKGiDVmKjj80ZImgxalKAhIm4k%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

One baby to another says I'm lucky to have met you
I don't care what you think unless it is about me
It is now my duty to completely drain you
I travel through a tube and end up in your infection

Lol that illuminati stuff is spreading from jay z video youtube comments and infecting the whole internet

Novoselic making illuminati power moves like running for clerk of a rural county

MARRAWANNA MARRAWANNA

jam #2 sounds like a jam

From that eBay listing:

can be erased and re-used if you need a blank reel to reel tape

still mad at helgo for recording over an unreleased color me badd song