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considering the philosophy or disposition or whatever of ilm, i kind of assume people like it as a sort of "oh, yeah, pop music-- yes, contrary to popular belief, it can be just as good as any obscure experimental music. and public enemy had a good message and there were crazy beats with sirens and i think crunk is kind of funny." but not, like, excited about it anymore, really, for the most part, giving up on it the instant it turns into teutonic volksstomp or whatever and jumping on the accents-and-awkward-rhymes-over-skittery-beats bandwagon.

so, why do you not care about rap music/why did you stop caring about it and then say bad things about it? or why can't you care more? or, if your window of opportunity to care about it has passed, why didn't you care about it when you had the opportunity? it's not like you have to care but lots of people do. i guess english people shouldn't really answer. they can answer if they pretend to be north americans or comment on the answers of north americans or they could answer if they're english but they've lived in north america for a long time. holly valance is a fit bird, eh.

sorted.

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

andre on muchvibe right now playing pool while namugenyi watched him: "it's stagnant right now. i compare it to when the blues turned into rock n' roll and when jazz turned into be-bop, hip-hop need to turn into something." (she then asks him how he feels about being called a genius. "well, you know. to me genius is like-- it's effortless. but i know how hard it is for us." that's exact. did "us" = "geniuses.")

google search for "Andre Outkast stagnant" in search of an actual quote from him: every single review of the cd calls hip-hop stagnant.

jay-z in xxl: "i like fucking coldplay and shit. and i'm still on jill scott's whole album. and i like john mayer, surprisingly. i think that's fresh, i'll fuck wth him."

others.

other than music writers and aging, out-of-touch millionaires with ten year old careers, who thinks that it's stagnant? why is no one up in murder dog saying "yeah, i'm kind of not feeling that shit anymore-- have you ever heard of the matthew good band? and michelle branch, she's fresh"?

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

????!

― udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

has any mainstream US rapper ever said they LOOOVE Radiohead?

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i wrote a long thing about being excited about listening to houston rap a little while ago and part of it said:

I'm not real but that shit is real for me. Every track I hear, every freestyle, everything, everything all builds the thing for me. Everything I get to hear I play over and over again, rewind, rewind, rewind, figuring it all out, where that sample's from, what that "wet 'em up like a sherm sweet" line is from, why he's dissing Z-Ro, playing it in my car for months. When you get a new name from wherever, Murder Dog, messageborad, radio, searching KaZaA for every freestyle you can get, figuring out who he is, what neighbourhood he's from, who he rolls with. Just getting every single new track. I have to hear everything.

and i'm already less enthusiastic about it. it's one thing after another. so, i look stupid when i've been all "yeah, illmatic = greatest album ever released" and loving cash money and then it's just-- there's always something after and i don't care about the thing before it. it's just so exciting to hear everything. i can't imagine anyone listening to shitty grime over all this shit and then badmouthing it and shit and not giving a fuck. that stuff sounds like the wildstyle station on vice city to me. every city in america is making records for you and you want to ruin your life searching for tinchy strider mp3s? every city in america is crying out for you to listen. why do you want to break my heart?

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, without a doubt.

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

cloverland is ripping shit up in a way, good show. I've got no time to respond now but as for the Jay-Z comments, there is such a thing as reverse-wiggaism (where 'class' and maturity are misguidedly idealized hence John Mayer/Coldplay love)

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and udu try not to type ??? as a standalone snakry response, it irritates me more than ...

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.gifs.net/animate/granny.gif
i said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie
to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat

― , Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

omg taste in being subjective shocker, dk still being white canadian kid with prophet/messiah complex shocker, ilx in going in circles shocker, fuck this bullshit shocker.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha I was wondering why these nearly incomprehensible at times sentiments sounded so familiar. I should have immediately guessed dk.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, i just don't get the point: your knowledge of other music outside of rap and the differing social structures surrounding it - via the casual namedrops if nothing else - means you can't play yr beloved faux-naif card anymore...you obviously understand concepts like subjective taste and social context and personal hirearchies...and yet and yet. you're about as far away from houston - socially, geographically - as i am from london, and yet you feel a deep connection with a music that has no obvious direct bearing on how you live your life. so...where's the catch? am i missing something? is it just more jingoistic bullshit on behalf of a favorite music? (also, what the fuck is with the yahoo.co.uk email address?)

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

all mixtape scenes seem fascinating at first but then the lack of quality control always kills my excitement. i tried to get into the houston scene but i just ended up being into the swisha house stuff and not much else. those lil flip mixtapes are awful.

― joshd, Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

haha Matthew Good Band. The writer must be Canadian.

― sym (shmuel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh fuck did I just back that guy that's into preteen porn?

SHIT!

I do agree with him on a few things though.

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah he's canadian, there's a few Muchmusic references, which is odd, because Canada sucks unless you're American and like preciousness.

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Or you are American and like healthcare.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Canada's not so bad (xpost)...But Matthew Good certainly is

― sym (shmuel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Not really. Our healthcare is way too mythologized and it's all gonna be gone soon anyway. I pay for 80% of my meds.

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Ummm, but he's English.

― the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't he?

― the baby from three men and a baby, but all growed up (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I'M BRIAN FELLOW!

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

80% of your meds which cost you half as much as they would in the states. . . gosh I wonder how much of America would like that deal.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

alo, i think dk seriously overestimates the thrills of living in clear channel's america. it's not as if i can turn on my radio in pennsylvania and hear lil flip freestyles. it's still just as much of an indie-obscurantist/mp3/mailorder/dingy speciality store thing as anything he'd likely diss most of us for listening to.

x-post, no he's not english.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh just stop getting sick then already. xp

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay fine Alex, I'll be serious. I'm only saying this stuff because many americans treat Canada like a cute little indie happyland and huge chunks of our culture de-testicles itself to make the image work. But yeah, there's no fucking way I'd leave Canada for the States.

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

geographically: i live closer to houston than i do to the capital of my country.

socially: i am an authentic worker.

i guess i shouldn't put too much emphasis on the fact that most grime mcs are black and urban. right? that doesn't matter. it's the sounds and it's all subjective and it's not really real, no one is suffering, everything is fine, he's from hackney and he hacks knees, how clever. okay. i get it. subjective. faux-naif. hierarchies.

come on, you know i've admitted to faking it a bit. don't be so prickly. are you still upset about me not knowing who nelson were?

i was just wondering if hip-hop was really stagnant and why lots of a certain type of people say that they don't care about it. like, why didn't they get super interested in it since it was a major cultural force thing, i guess, and lots of people did and like it a lot. i'm not sure what the question was.

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I think of Canada as a place where many things are much nicer/progressive/socially decent/rational aka better than the US. But only idiots think other countries (or any country) are/is perfect.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone once told me rap music died when it stopped being black people talking and turned into white people talking.

― Stupid (Stupid), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Best topic title evah! ;)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 15 January 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe this is obvious, but andre isn't calling himself a genius in that quote - he's saying music is too difficult for him for that to be true.

― dave k, Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I challenge cloverlandthug to find any evidence on this board that people who once "cared" about hip-hop are now completely dismissive of it. Not people who think (somewhat unsurprisingly given that a number of ILM/X faves dropped what were considered somewhat disappointing albums this year) that hip-hop had a weak year and not people who (OHMYFUCKINGGOD) are into other stuff which had stronger years in their opinion (grime, dancehall, whatever) but people who have flat out stated that they just don't care about hip-hop at all anymore. Fuckin' ask Jay-Z and Timberland why they don't care at all about hip-hop. I'm sure they'll love you for it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Timberland.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

like, why didn't they get super interested in it since it was a major cultural force thing, i guess,

'Cause I don't give a damn about cultural forces and shit. Why would you like music because of that?

― Adam Michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

dk i made my attempt to reason with you but you're clearly batshit

"i am an authentic worker"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

He follows the queen!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway, alex in sf basically otm: find me one hip-hop fan on ilm who completely dismisses it now. for chrissakes i had three hip-hop albums in my top 10 (and a lot more in the running), and frankly i don't give a flying fuck if it's "acceptable hip-hop" by whatever obscurantist screwston criterion you want to throw at me. which i guess makes me nate defending mf doom or whatever against the ilm boogeyman, but christ it's pretty fucking weird when i have to be a reverse-pop-apologist for shit they play on the radio and mtv.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

alex! timbaland and jay-z really do love being asked if hip-hop sucks. interviewers love asking, too. if you asked either of them why they didn't care about hip-hop anymore it would go like this: "i love hip-hop but it lost it's path-- house parties in the summer and no one came through with a gun it was all about the music ya'll and it helped to relieve some stress whatever HIP HOP HASS CHAAANGED."

(Old school rap comes up and all the 30+ former listeners who normally dis rap come out of the woodwork all teary-eyed and opinionated.)
-- Rockist Scientist, December 10th, 2003.

there's a lot of that. and a lot of plain disinterest and little comments about why does nelly have to run a credit card through a woman's buttocks and occasional eruptions. but mainly disinterest, i guess. look at the threads like "what would your ideal mc never rhyme about" and the ones about wanting sad hip-hop.

xpost: i didn't say "completely dismisses." but, you know that your tastes and ilm's tastes in hip-hop differ hugely from, like, everyone, right? and, also, americans like dizzee rascal because his cd sounds like early80s new york hip-hop, right?

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

that was my first time doing the "xpost" thing!

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what exactly is your point that my tastes differs from "everyones" when your thread opened with a question directed to "you"?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

p.s. stop jacking ethan's posting style and opinions from two years ago and making them incomprehensible and annoying.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to mention myself as an example. (I'm hardly typical ILM though, am I?)

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you, Jess, I was just thinking that myself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The regs on this board that get real personal CRACK ME UP.

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(I know that was dumb)

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

very.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

very.
-- fiddo centington (dubplatestyl...), January 15th, 2004 4:46 AM.

lol

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm.

(Perhaps a side note, I don't know, but...MTV rockism applied to rap circa 1994?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

is your only knowledge of opinions outside of musicwritersunassumingwhiteguy ethan (and he writes for pitchfork!) (jess: "hey, i read that jay-z and nas thread, too, sometimes-- but goddamn do they not have enter keys??") and overhearing people in mcdonald's or whatever?

jess: "wow, you like rap?? i know this guy named ethan who likes rap. do you like the beatnuts, too?"

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck for a second there i thought it was trife.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

boy you're really reaching at this point aren't you?

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I also just noticed "centington" is about as dissonant as they come. Which proves lap = clap

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

this is going so poorly.

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha so it's just a coincky-dink that cloverlandthug's opinions are a pale incomprehensible carbon copy of ethans. Whew. Good to know, I guess. Rest y'all been warned, cloverlandthug is his own man and he's biting from no one.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

So wait wait you thought your somewhat nasty assumption-ridden overgeneralized accusation/question was going to go over WELL?!?!?! Do you ever leave your house (I mean other than to go to McDonalds to discuss music with the critics there)?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

then again this is a guy who thinks sterl is the best critical thinker on ilm (and dont get me wrong, i like sterl but...)

haha christ i was listening to rap when dk was sitting in his socialist-funded canadian daycare center.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

He might have been listening to rap there though, Jess. Canada's progressive, ya know.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

New tread topic: who will make the hip-hop "losing my edge"?
(read: who will make fiddo's theme song?)

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

LOL TRea-- ok I'm stopping.

― adam michel (adam michel), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

jess, do you think hip-hop is stagnant?

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"LOL"

x-post: i think hip-hop has reached a saturation point that makes arguments about it being "stagnant" kind of irrelevant. i mean: who can honestly take the whole of it in? we've obviously established on this thread already that "hip-hop" means complerely different things to you and i. and that's not even getting into the 101 stripes the two of us don't listen to. it's like asking "is rock stagnant?" at this point. well, are you asking about indie rock or black metal or pop punk or frat folk or what? it's just fragmented, and, as such, the center opens itself up to arguments about being stagnant because it's a little bit of everything. a little pop-hop, a little dre-style classicism, a little dirty south, a little generic east coast thug shit, a little unclassifiable weirdness, a little novelty.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

rate me out of ten.

― cloverlandthug, Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you just do some mighty fine gymnastics or something? I was looking away. Sorry.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

6.5

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

but you def get the "most improved camper" award.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

jess this thread didn't have to be a crap-slinging fest until YOU made it one, y'know?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

and then it didn't have to be about race until YOU made it about race, and then it didn't have to be about authenticity until YOU made it about authenticity, and then how the fuck did my name get dragged in?

don't go putting your hangups on everyone else, man.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess english people shouldn't really answer. they can answer if they pretend to be north americans or comment on the answers of north americans or they could answer if they're english but they've lived in north america for a long time

???

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I LIKE TEH WAY YOU MOVE OOH OOOH

― nickalicious is waysted (nickalicious), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I'M BRIAN FELLOW!

― Le Coq (DarrenK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Arguments which end up being about which person is best make everyone look stupid.

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

that's why I win ha ha.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(There Will Be) Peace In The Valley (For Me)

Oh well, I'm tired and so weary
But I must go alone
Till the lord comes and calls, calls me away, oh yes
Well the morning's so bright
And the lamp is alight
And the night, night is as black as the sea, oh yes

There will be peace in the valley for me, some day
There will be peace in the valley for me, oh Lord I pray
There'll be no sadness, no sorrow
No trouble, trouble I see
There will be peace in the valley for me, for me

Well the bear will be gentle
And the wolves will be tame
And the lion shall lay down by the lamb, oh yes
And the beasts from the wild
Shall be lit by a child
And I'll be changed, changed from this creature that I am, oh yes

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I kind of avoided this thread at first just because there've been way too many of these kind of endless throwdowns about the state of hip hop or whatever, but I think d k did have some interesting thoughts to begin with. especially the post about "I'm not real but that shit is real for me. Every track I hear, every freestyle, everything, everything all builds the thing for me. "

so i guess what I'm saying is that I do identify in that my enthusiasm is probably moreso than ever, and it annoys me when someone like Timbaland, who I was enthusiastic about maybe 3-5 years ago, goes and talks shit about the entire genre. it's like, dude, did it ever occur to you that maybe it was just you that fell the fuck off and the rest of hip hop just kept on going? and I mean, shit, go and do your prog epic or Coldplay collabo and leave rap alone if you want, but stop pissing all over it like you're too good for it when really if anything it's too good for you now. ok, i'm being a little extreme, I still love you, Timmy, I do, but c'mon. I kind of feel bad for these guys, who helped define one era, and then completely fail to appreciate any era that comes after it. or are maybe just bitter because the artists on their label didn't become the stars of tomorrow.

also, adam = OTM in that some of the regulars here get way too personal with their responses. or maybe it's just Jess, but either way, it happens a lot and it's fucking creepy.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 15 January 2004 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

what does sorted mean?

signed, America, where we know what rap is.

― autovac (autovac), Thursday, 15 January 2004 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, I'm half british & I really know what sorted & fit birds are about, but, if I take this correctly, you want me to corfirm what you already know.
you don't get hip-hop, you're not expected to. it's good, in a way dizzee rascal will never be. there's shit going on that is as sonically varietal as anything, and 90s freestyles is a deep vein. like fiddsy sez, these big pitcher aguments are mostly moot re: RAP.

now I can go back to only commenting on vibracathedral orchestra threads. viva Hot 97!

― autovac (autovac), Thursday, 15 January 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Original post: "giving up on it the instant it turns into teutonic volksstomp or whatever and jumping on the accents-and-awkward-rhymes-over-skittery-beats bandwagon"

Crikey!!!! It'll be curtains for Dizzee Rascal then!!!!!!!!!! (And regarding that message far above, I always thought his album "sounds like early80s new york hip-hop" in much the same way that Cradle of Filth sounds like early Saxon!!!!!)

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 15 January 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

bump

― am0n, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

There's some food for thought in the original post that got lost in amongst all the mud-slinging. Maybe it's not phrased in the nicest way possible, but it wasn't worth getting so batshit over.

― Tantrum The Cat, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

fuck this bullshit shocker.
-- fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:08 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

qft

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

"I Got 5 On It" is a great song.

― max, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

It is!

― Tantrum The Cat, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

u heard the remix, max?

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

well we were all a little bit more wound up in those days

― strongohulkington, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

however, aside from the sub-genre referents at the end, which can be easily shuffled around for newer ones, i do stand by this:

i think hip-hop has reached a saturation point that makes arguments about it being "stagnant" kind of irrelevant. i mean: who can honestly take the whole of it in? we've obviously established on this thread already that "hip-hop" means complerely different things to you and i. and that's not even getting into the 101 stripes the two of us don't listen to. it's like asking "is rock stagnant?" at this point. well, are you asking about indie rock or black metal or pop punk or frat folk or what? it's just fragmented, and, as such, the center opens itself up to arguments about being stagnant because it's a little bit of everything. a little pop-hop, a little dre-style classicism, a little dirty south, a little generic east coast thug shit, a little unclassifiable weirdness, a little novelty.

― strongohulkington, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Is "Frat Folk" things like Corky and the Juice Pigs?

― everything, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

frat folk:

http://www.jrsfilm.com/SLIGHTLY%20STOOPID%20ALBUM%20COVER%20FULL.jpg

― strongohulkington, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost yeah w/ that great too $hort verse? LOVE it. im on a mid-90s california chart hits tip. REGULATE on repeat.

― max, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

i've been listening to nothing but early-mid-late 90s cali rap lately
did you miss my cj mac appreciation post

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

cj mac 'come and take a ride' appreciation

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

who are these people that don't like "I Got 5 On It"?!?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

TEH WHITE FOLKS THEM TAHT LIVE IN THE SUBURBS AND NEVAR LISTEN TO "I'LL GO 5 ON IT".

― KANTLIPS, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

In my experience, suburban white folks lurve themselves some "5 On It", but then again, I am on the west coast, so it may be different elsewhere.

― The Reverend, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

cloverlandthug is canadian. disscus

― am0n, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

thats hardly the most interesting thing about cloverlandthug

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

surely the most interesting thing is the native american hooker handjob story

― strongohulkington, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps the regional scenes are thriving but the dominant strain of chart-scaling major label hiphop is certainly stagnant, and that's what sets up the asperations of the rest. I seem to recall reading that sales of hiphop declined more than other genres in 2006...

I wonder whether rappers will maintain the current capitalist-triumphalist rhetoric and worldview as the money to be made and potential for success decreases dramatically.

― DougD, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I really like it. Kind of not four, five, six with features. But really "Don't Cross the Line" first, for no reason, just so good, and then "Free," "All My Life," and the Mariah Carey one, where it's good because, sort of, it's got the really sugary vocal sample combined with sugary vocal and just sounding so good and what is it "You just like honey so you got me like Winnie the Pooh." I wish I could listen to that right now! "You Got Me." It was what I was listening to the first time someone ever touched my penis. A very professional but unnervingly nervous prostitute. For fifty dollars. We parked in an alley and she was upset with me for not being able to drive with the lights off. ("They're automatic ones. I can't turn them off!") So, whatever. She was nervous and parking and we drove around North Central while she kept going. Clicking over to "Hit 'Em Up." Until I was done.

-- d k (d k), Monday, December 22, 2003 8:14 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

i still cant believe no one responded to that, not only at the time it was originally posted, but at the thread revival either, five months later

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)