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OMG, I just came home and put on the tv a little while ago so I didn't see her first performance, but a few minutes ago, they came back from commercial and introduced her for her 2nd song...

so the band starts playing "Pieces Of Me" and she's doing this goofy "sexy" dance, and the vocals start, but they're pre-recorded she misses the cue completely and isn't mouthing the words or anything, and she's very visibly embarrassed and kind of dances around a little more, and the pre-recorded vocals fade out but she never starts singing, and the band just keeps playing on, and she sheepishly walks offstage and they cut to commercial in the middle of the first chorus.

did anyone else see this!? it was one of the greatest trainwrecks I've ever seen on live TV.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i finally heard an ashlee simpson song! in italy! it was boring! she has a big nose! chuck is on crack!

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

also where do they get those studio hacks who dress up like blink 182?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Just caught it. The rest of the band did handle things pretty well to their credit.

2xpost

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

just now at the end of the show when they all wave to the camera while the credits roll, Ashlee was looking so embarrassed and I think mouthing the words "I'm sorry" to the camera, and Amy Poehler and Tina Fey were hugging and consoling her.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

wait so was the plan for her to take over from the prerecorded vocals or was she going to lipsynch the whole song?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hard to say. I think that she was probably supposed to just lipsynch (the pre-recorded track was very loud at first, definitely not just 'backing' for live vocals), but I guess after that went awry, they faded out the vocal track hoping she'd just pick up and start singing, but she just kinda gave up on salvaging it.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, I hope I don't sound like I'm gloating or condemning anyone who lipsynchs, her singles are lame but she seems nice enough on her show and I think she's kinda hot. but this was just such a hilariously grand failure that I had to post about it.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Just heard about this myself. I'm more quietly amused than anything else.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Saw it. Wasn't surprised. I mean... Ashlee Simpson sucks people. Anyone who'd lip synch on fuckin' SNL? Please.

― maria b (maria b), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Saw it. Wasn't surprised. I mean... Ashlee Simpson sucks people. Anyone who'd lip synch on fuckin' SNL? Please.

Ashlee sucks people? can you name some names, please?

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Now the Dave Matthews Band is playing on the '95 rerun episode. They don't sound so bad at all!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, they're real pros.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

that guy playing the sax? a class act all the way.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked the violin solo.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, he's good too.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

must. tape. this.

― AaronHz (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

get the DMB one too, for me and sundar.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn! Missed this. Would've love to see it. Do you think they will show the fuck up on the re-run or just edit it out?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, you have to hand it to the band. After whatsername walked off, they gleefully smirked at each other (obviously trying not to burst out laughing) and carried on like the professionals they were hired to be.

Jawdroppingly insulting both to band and audience how she announces at the end of the program, "Sorry! My band started playing the wrong song!"

Way to go, bitch, blame it on THEM. What a low down, incredibly shitty thing to do. As if any of this were their fault. Well, at least this is one disposable media cunt who will thankfully exit before her proverbial 15 minutes were even used up.

― Lefty, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)


you seem kind of wound up about this, lefty.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really. I had never heard her before this program. I couldn't care less, but I really did find it amusing how those hired hand musicians reacted. I was smirking too.

But, really, they did all they could do to cover for her, She walked off. Then she blames them for being exposed as a lip-synching fraud. Seems really shitty for her to blame others for her own meltdown, particularly the band that's trying to cover her ass.

― Lefty, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

when did she blame them? when would she have had the opportunity to do so? (or did she call a post-SNL press conference?)

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually that raises the question of whether the band did that on purpose. Maybe they weren't getting paid their fair shake?

xpost She blamed them when she said good night to the audience.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

End of the show before credits rolled. She was standing there surrounded buy the cast and said this. Didn't you see it?

― Lefty, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't have a tv, i live vicariously through YOU

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a pretty crappy excuse though - even if the band did play the wrong song, she should know her own repertoire enough to lipsynch along to it.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

but which dance does she do?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Excerpt from a recent Lucky Magazine interview (thanks Jayne):

LM: What are your takes on lip-synching?

AS: I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me.

― Lesley, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)

omg wait until alex in nyc finds this thread!

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

She did kind of a hokey-pokey with the finger pointing move.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

when does she insult the band?

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe someone familiar with her repertoire (such as it is) can say for certain, but I got the impressiont hat the band was playing the proper/agreed upon song. It seemed like the wrong recorded vocal track then popped up. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what appeared to have happened.

― Lefty, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not going to read this thread. tell me what happened?

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, first this band came out. Then the wrong tape. And, lessee, then hokey-pokey; media cunt storms off. Then Jandek came out and started singing. Yeah, Jandek, I think it was.

Eh, fuck, it's been a long week. I'm drunk and the events of the past 7 days are now all blurring together nicely.

― Lefty, Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hi dean--how do you post as me? i thought that wasn't possible because of registration issues.

i don't recall anyone explaining when she insulted the band before i asked. there was mention of her mouthing some kind of "i'm sorry" at the end but that's hardly the same thing.

entered as state's evidence #29

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know what this thread is about

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, you have to hand it to the band. After whatsername walked off, they gleefully smirked at each other (obviously trying not to burst out laughing) and carried on like the professionals they were hired to be.

Jawdroppingly insulting both to band and audience how she announces at the end of the program, "Sorry! My band started playing the wrong song!"

Way to go, bitch, blame it on THEM. What a low down, incredibly shitty thing to do. As if any of this were their fault. Well, at least this is one disposable media cunt who will thankfully exit before her proverbial 15 minutes were even used up.

-- Lefty (left...) (webmail), October 24th, 2004 11:07 PM. (link)

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

aha! thank you, dean

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

anytime, dean

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

amateur!!!st you're so urbane.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

in what spirit do you make that comment mr. finney?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

respect and bemusement (the latter not so much with you)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

ok

― the real roxamateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

why am i so sad ;(

― amateur!!!st (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

dean you are so loveable

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a bag filled with flaming excrement topped with a dollop of tepid runny puss.

― Alex in NYC (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I just noticed that Dean impersonated AaronHz on this thread and also one on the Noise Board (and for no good reason really!) and then had the sudden thought that maybe AaronHz has always just been an alternate persona of Dean's. Weird.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 October 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, More in the Monitor reports more details:

Okay, so I'm watching Saturday Night Live. Ashlee Simpson does her first song, that Pieces of Me treacle. I could swear that she's lip-synching. I'm staring hard. She's cupping her hands around the mic so you can't see her mouth. Still, something seems off. But I had always heard that SNL had a no lip-synching rule with musical performers, so I just assumed that I was being obsessive.

Then she comes out for her second song. Just as the band is about to start, a vocal track starts floating out from somewhere. It's the vocals for Pieces of Me. The band, unsure of what to do, starts playing the music for Pieces of Me. Ashlee starts skipping around the stage nervously. It then seems as though she's going to start "singing" that song again. Then, another different vocal track starts pumping out. Ashlee walks off the stage, leaving the band to continue to play the music for Pieces of Me. The show quickly cuts to commercial. When the show ccomes back, no Ashlee, no band.

At the end of the show, at the goodbye part, she BLAMED THE PROBLEM ON THE BAND PLAYING THE WRONG SONG!!!!

I'm not necessarily against lip-synching (or enhancing) as a part of big stage shows with lots of dancing (see Madonna and Britney) but this is SNL and it's a show that positions itself as a home for good LIVE music. And she wasn't dancing. Really.

But I guess it was exciting to see a major fuck up on live tv. Her Daddy couldn't control this script.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Did they redo this for the west coast, seems like it.

― svend (svend), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Watch it here:

https://home.comcast.net/~mr.mojo/Oops.wmv

or there:

http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv

― Hja, Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ah thanks, guess that is still coming up.

― svend (svend), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that was really embarrassing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that this officially knocks her down to my level.

― DIEAAANO (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh lordy.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Just saw it on the west coast, they suppressed the snippet of vocal so it looked like she just stops dancing, then dances kinda goofily, then walks around, then exits, to the band's amusement. The bears were kind of funny, though.

― nickn (nickn), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

So, on the West Coast replay of this NBC edited out the vocal track being replayed. So it basically just looked like the band was jamming and she walked off.

― AaronHz (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course now it looks like it was the band's fault.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep!

― AaronHz (deangulberry), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

An inspired masterstroke on Ashlee's part. This is her punk side coming through obv.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the producers must have told her to say it was the band's fault, so that for the west coast edit and subsequent reruns it'd look exactly like that. A sad attempt at damage control.

― D.J. Anderson, Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

wow. dad's gonna be pissed.

― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 24 October 2004 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully the press will jump all over this and the Simpson family will go the way of Mill Vanilli.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't! lip synching ain't no crime.

― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if MTV will actually report on it... I mean, they've the got a show starring the girl to look out for.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I doubt the show producers would tell her to say that. They usually tape the dress rehearsal, too, and can sub that in for the West Coast and subsequent airings. (That's why you never see Sinead rip the pope's picture up anymore.) If she hadn't acknowledged it during the show close, maybe they could've just done that.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I rather doubt that her album will tumble down the charts after this, by the way. I don't think she handled it well, but it's hardly the first time someone's been caught out at this. Maybe the first time on national TV.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=%2B%22aretha+franklin%22+%2B%22national+anthem%22+%2Bnba

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

But Aretha didn't walk off, did she?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Blues Brothers! Sheeeit."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

But they didn't sub it in for the west coast; they edited out her taped vocals. The song starts, she dances for a second, looks over at the guitarist, starts a jig, then walks offstage. It does look like she merely became confused (though one would think she could just adapt). I'd say if I didn't know already, it would seem exactly as she said at the end. Seems like there must be some kinda collaboration because of the vocal edit - surely SOMEONE talked to her after she walked off stage.

― D.J. Anderson, Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Here in Seattle we somehow got the version with the taped vocals left in. I guess KING took the East Coast feed.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, D.J., my point was they probably could've subbed it in. I don't care about the lip syncing, but blaming it on the band is lame. "Dude, my bass player was totally throwing his voice!"

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://ashlee-simpson.ytmnd.com/

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 24 October 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You people fucking watch SNL?

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 24 October 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope, I happened to be on the phone with someone who'd heard about it from the East Coast.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 24 October 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Session musicians are sort of like the feudal serfs of the music industry.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 24 October 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img93.exs.cx/img93/125/AshleeTheTwat4.gif

― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Sunday, 24 October 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

You people fucking watch SNL?

I'll say yes, and say it PROUDLY!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 24 October 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Ashlee Simpson vs. Abbie From The Zutons

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 October 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The band really missed an oportunity. They could have played anything! I guess they knew they wouldn't have much time, but still - they got blamed for it anyway.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 24 October 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You people fucking watch SNL?
I'll say yes, and say it PROUDLY!

-- Johnny Fever (--...), October 24th, 2004.

Asides from Amy Poehler and to a lesser extent Tina Fey, you know the cast is terrible and the humor is completely forced and unfunny right?

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 24 October 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, asides.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 24 October 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a bag filled with flaming excrement topped with a dollop of tepid runny puss.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), October 24th, 2004. (later)

HEY MODERATOR!This has really got to stop. I didn't post this, and while I agree with the sentiment, I think there's a whole lotta identity theft goin' down that simply ain't cool.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Her marionette-puppet-bandy-legged dancing was the worst thing about this whole fiasco. She looked like such a tool.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

this is the most lol thing ever!!

http://img52.exs.cx/img52/5770/lolashlee.jpg

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

this is a taco bell/pizza-hut express

well, then I'll have the gin-lovers pizza!

so was it really the fault of someone off-stage who triggered the wrong vocal cut? How is that synched up?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

from the ashlee simpson website:

Dude...


10/24/2004 8:27:58 AM - by SuzanneE28


Hey Ashlee...I'm really disapointed in you...you were my idol and I loved you until I watched SNL last night and found out you were a phony and then a liar when you blamed you band for playing the wrong song when they weren't...I want you to know I still like you but I have no respect for you anymore...I used to have alot of expensive framed pictures of you on my wall from eBay but I took them down...I might put them back up someday when you start showing some real talent, not lip syncing...I'm not trying to be mean or anything and this is kind of hard for me to write because I once loved and looked up to you...I even wrote some incredibly nice comments...but I still think you are a nice person and would love to meet you sometimes...but I bet on this site you and your band or whoever posts will totally ignore what happened last night...well anyways I know you're probably totally embarrased right now and I do feel extremley bad for you...but you might wanna stick to acting...sorry...

u go girl u keep making music even tho u have no talent


10/24/2004 7:51:44 AM - by girluknowitsTRUE


woo keep truckin

$$$$$

Shit happens.


10/24/2004 7:50:30 AM - by banana munchkin


Sorry for whatever happened mistakes do occur, you shouldn't be grilled to the bones for it, just keep pushin on (:

HAHA


10/24/2004 7:32:51 AM - by AshleesOnCrack


SOMEONE SAID SHES YOUNG LAY OFF HER??
Hilary Duff is only 17(just turned) she works everyday none stop for over 5 years...ashlee just started pretty much and shes gonna be 20. Hilary Duff doesnt lipsync like Ashlee and Hilary duff mantains a good role model for little kids,movies and notice how even if she doesnt have the best voice in the world she can sing live and would NEVER BLAME IT ON HER BAND! Go Hil THE TEEN QUEEN!

lol theyre playing it on the NEWS


10/24/2004 7:31:33 AM - by girluknowitsTRUE


no one is gonna buy ur crappy cds or go to see u lipsync now! you owe your fans better because you are lucky to have them! then u lie to them like they are idiots. U R THE ONLY DUMB ONE!

fakkeeee


10/24/2004 7:29:38 AM - by AshleesOnCrack


your horrible your so fake Nice 1 on SNL last night

HILARY DUFF RULES OVER U NOW


10/24/2004 7:27:33 AM - by AshleesOnCrack


WOW YOUR SO FAKES ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY..AND WATEVER HAPPEND TO YOU NOT WANTING TO DRESS ALL UP IN "DIMONDS" YOU SAID ON YOUR TV SHOW? YOU SAID YOU LIKED TO DRESS REGULAR AND WHO U ARE..HA I SEE U ON BLENDER MAGAZINE AND YOUR LIKE HALF NAKED WEARING JESSICAS SKIRT

ashlee go back to your mansion no one wants to buy ur lame c


10/24/2004 7:26:51 AM - by girluknowitsTRUE


FAKE! poser! u have to lie and use your sisters fame to have a career! shame on u! taking the blame from URSELF and the AUDIO guys to YOUR BAND! u are lucky they even want to be around you. but they are probably getting rich. ur career is a joke!

ASHLEE YOUR SUCH A FAKE


10/24/2004 7:24:07 AM - by AshleesOnCrack


HEY BITCH I LOVED YOU UNTIL NOW, HA I WAS LIKE NO WAY AM I GOING TO BE FAMOUS AND OPEN UP LIKE HER AND SING IM HORRIBLE AND SHES MY IDOL, NOW I NO I CAN THANKS FOR INSPIRING ME ITS OKAY TO HAVE A BAD VOICE NOW THESE DAYS AND BECOME FAMOUS BECAUSE MOST OF THE CELEBS LIPSYNC ANYWAY..HA WE CAUGHT YOU ON PIECES OF ME AND WHEN YOU WANTED TO SING AUTOBIOGRAPHY AND THEY PLAYED PIECES OF ME, HA WE ALL CAUGHT YOU LIAR! THERES NO WAY YOU CAN APOLOGIZE FOR THIS NOW! YOU CANT TURN BACK NOW! I CANNOT EVEN BELIEVE THAT YOU BLAMED THE BAND?? THE BAND WAS FINE..TELL THE GUY WHO WAS GONNA PLAY THE CD FOR YOU WHO PUT ON THE WRONG TRACK WHO MESSED YOU UP. HE PUT ON THE CD AND YOU WERE GONNA LIPSYNC..YOUR PATHETIC YOU REALLY ARE..FOR ALITTLE WHILE YOU WERENT BUT YOUR REALLY LIVING IN THE SHADOW NOW YOU "PIECES OF SHIT"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You're missing the funniest part - the miscued song was the song she has already played in her first segment! "Pieces of Me" or whatever. For a second, I thought it would be one of those little self-quotes, like Eminem doing a bit of "guess who's back" on the new single.

What the band did was quite appropriate - they started playing Song 2 (sadly, not the Blur one) over the recording of Song 1, while someone faded Song 1 out. But at that point Ashlee has already run from the stage.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 24 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/3611/wtfdance.gif

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Good lord.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

She stole my dance!

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 24 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

It looks like some old Irish man jig.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 24 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Ashlee Simpson IS Lord of the Dance

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

that graphic is perfectly in sync with Ada's "Les Danseuses" right now and i can't stop watching it

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

wow that's an incredibly unhip dance move, too unhip even for me

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kind of proud now that I started this thread.

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

this is amazing. i hate her fucking voice. her music makes me like hilary duff even more

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pbclibrary.org/images/Duff-With-Daisy-Rock.jpg

Where can I get this guitar??!?!?!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

btw amst, I'm sorry, I think I was the source of your confusion about her comments at the end of the show upthread - I was channel surfing and flipped back to NBC evidently after she made the comments blaming her band, so all I saw and reported seeing was her mouthing "I'm sorry" to the camera.

(x-post)

― Al (sitcom), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

point of order here:

Session musicians are sort of like the feudal serfs of the music industry.

-- David Allen

by serfdom, do you mean, having careers longer than 1-2 years?

― g--ff (gcannon), Sunday, 24 October 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

They get paid, which is more than most.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised nobody's brought up the term "Stonehenge" in relation to Ashlee's dance.

― Vic Funk, Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if Eminem will reference it in some way during next week's SNL performance.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

that would be sassy!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that would be sassy!

Aw, I miss Phil Hartman. :(

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to see this.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

X-Post
A guitar store in Park Slope sells these heart- and flower-shaped guitars. I asked the guy who on earth buys these; he answered "about 30% little girls, 70% Williamsburg hipsters."

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

just saw it.

how embarrasing.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

+s

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Ashlee Simpson vs. Owen Paul vs. Gene Pitney vs. that Spanish Eurovision entry from 1992 or thereabouts

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too bad drunk impersonators missed out on the Chuck Eddy opportunity here

― W i l l (common_person), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Possessed by leprechauns!

The fuckup and the dancing are magically delicious.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread = \\m//

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

GIRL U KNOW ITS GIRL U KNOW ITS GIRL U KNOW ITS GIRL U KNOW ITS GIRL U KNOW ITS

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

\\m//


what does this mean??

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Stonehenge, where the demons dwell
Where the banshees live and they do live well
Stonehenge
Where a man is a man and the children dance to
the pipes of pan
Stonehenge
Tis a magic place where the moon doth rise
With a dragon's face
Stonehenge
Where the virgins lie
And the prayer of devils fill the midnight sky
And you my love, won't you take my hand
We'll go back in time to that mystic land
Where the dew drops cry and the cats meow
I will take you there
I will show you how

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Ashlee Simpson vs. Owen Paul vs. Gene Pitney vs. that Spanish Eurovision entry from 1992 or thereabouts

Are you insulting Gene Pitney?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

\\m//

=

http://dioforamerica.com/diohands.jpg

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought it was supposed to represent something being flushed down the toilet

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ronnie james would never lip synch

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.e-biztips.com/cheryl/movies/images/spinaltap.jpg

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(^.^)v

http://www.shockpoint.com/fark/lipsync.avi

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This page no longer exists on this server.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i would still love to titty fuck her

10/24/2004 2:06:32 AM - by brendonpaul

what? i would. she got some nice titties. lol

User Name: brendonpaul
Location: portland, OR, US
Age: 24
Gender: male
Member Since: 10/24/2004 1:23:09 AM
Status: Registered User

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

whoops lol :[

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

checked it this time: http://www.crazytaco.net/~pablo/lipsync.avi

also: http://onetrick.net/Ashlee_Sax.mpg

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

actually DISREGARD ALL OF THAT, here's the full one:

https://home.comcast.net/~mr.mojo/Oops.wmv

ha ha :'[

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I just noticed that Dean impersonated AaronHz on this thread and also one on the Noise Board (and for no good reason really!) and then had the sudden thought that maybe AaronHz has always just been an alternate persona of Dean's. Weird.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), October 24th, 2004.

it's true, he is!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm secretly Ashlee Simpson, btw.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cracksmokingshirts.com/products/BlackBabyDoll.jpg

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.numbertwopencil.net/graphics/ash47.jpg

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is amazing. Especially how, at some point in all of it, Hillary Duff became a hero.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I like that Hillary Duff is a "big girl"

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00318.wmv


Copy the link and open it up in whatever you use to watch vids...

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 24 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

you mean she has hips jon?

i wish i could find this in mpeg format, because i don't feel like downloading WMP. on the other hand my life is probably ok without seeing ashlee simpson flub a live appearance.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah this is lame, lip-synching on SNL? UGH! but...

I find the dance really cute. Instead of flipping an immediate bitch switch she danced a jig. I find this kind of sweet.

I have to remind myself the songs I've heard are shit and she's full of it and wtf is Ryan Carbanera and don't we have laws against because my kneejerk impulse is to find her hot and cute.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and that that's not even her really hair color and it's only being used to create a more blatant anti-jessica thing which is such pandering crap. sigh... I love her smile. and that schnozz.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

also wasn't she the youngest person inducted into some prestigous dance program? they gotta be angry about the jig.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

u can play wmv in winamp

― \(^o^)/ (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, this is fabulous. I left late for my gig this morning to download and watch it. I can't believe no one's mentioned the bemused and slightly disgusted expression on Jude Law's before he says "Ashlee Simpson everybody!" (before and after her apology!) at the end.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

does ANYONE have this clip in a mac-friendly viewing format?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Fan Site Explains Ashlee Simpson's "Lip-Syncing" from PopDirt, found through Pop (All Love)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Her voice problem was also a reason for why her 'Tara Reid' skit wasn't aired.

shame! I caught a couple minutes of Weekend Update last night after watching a movie. That show is shit. Somebody breaking into a jig after a fuck-up is probably the most endearing thing I've heard of happening on that show in years.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

That explanation reads like a sorry excuse. They go into this whole rigamarole about cues between sound engineers and drummers ... as if it's rocket science, and since it's so complicated it's understandable that a mistake could be made. It's not complicated, it's one guy pressing one button to cue up song B instead of song A. Simple.

Also, if her voice was bothering her for weeks, why was she singing so much and trying so hard and by gosh isn't she a trooper and a gutsy determined performer during the sound check?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

oh I agree it reads like horseshit

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

If she had no voice, she should have cancelled. SNL's found replacement acts on the fly before, and I'm sure it would be 10 times as easy to do so these days.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

does ANYONE have this clip in a mac-friendly viewing format?

I'm getting an mpeg of it, which I'm pretty sure Quicktime can handle. I'll post it here once it's down.

(ps, if you get VLC Media Player you'll be able to play pretty-much anything on a mac)

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good, now it's pretty much guaranteed that her reality show will go into a Season 2.

― billstevejim, Monday, 25 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The "oh good" was sarcasm btw.

― billstevejim, Monday, 25 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

she claimed in blender that she doesn't want to do another season. She doesn't have ANY idea how her sister can handle more than one season of a reality show. They're SO different.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The song (in mac-friendly mpeg format)
Her "apology" (in less-friendly AVI format)

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

andrew, thank you.

a quick thought about the whole thing: if SNL has a "live music only" policy, why did they allow any sort of lipsynching to happen? couldnt they have told her no? that strikes me as somewhat odd.

also: doesnt she have a record coming out on 11/2 or so? the conspiracy theorist in me wants to say this was a PR stunt.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Seems too embarassing to be a PR stunt.

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Although there was the whole Par!s H!lton porn thing...

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.numbertwopencil.net/graphics/Churchill.jpg

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Paris didn't dance a jig in that video.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish she had!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

This is absoluuuuutely killin' me.
L.
O.
L.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

As pointed out on the Fallnet mailing list,

Mark E. Smith does stuff like this all the time then sacks his band. Perhaps Ashleeeeeeeeeeee has been taking tips.

― Sasha (sgh), Monday, 25 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Ashlee Simpson vs. Owen Paul vs. Gene Pitney vs. that Spanish Eurovision entry from 1992 or thereabouts
Are you insulting Gene Pitney?

No, it's just in out-take clip shows over here, these three are usually the prime examples of an act forgetting to mime with their backing track because they don't realise it's playing.

Paul was on Pebble Mill in 1986, stood on the big steps outside the studio with his band waiting to play. They get introduced by the presenter, the song starts... and they stand absolutely stock still, with no idea that their song is playing. This may have been 'art' in some way.

Pitney's clip was taken from an early episode of This Morning, he's stood on a boat waiting to perform his new single. For whatever reason, the song starts and he doesn't hear it. He stands around and does a little dance (not of Ashlee-esque standards), as if to indicate that someone has forgotten to play the track. And then suddenly he starts miming along in the middle of his first verse as if Absolutely Nothing Has Happened At All.

The Spanish Eurovision contestants (I think it was in Sweden in 1992) were also victims of the backing-track-fail-o-rama, as the track was played too late and they didn't hear it. There is a bit of standing around, and then the two female singers (in a strangely anticipatory moment) get extremely cross and storm off backstage to find some TV person they can kick the shit out of, leaving their three man backing band on the stage. The difference between this and Ashlee-gate is that the band were never meant to be playing live in the first place, hence it is the flamenco guitarist that does the rubbish jig.

I need some sleeping pills.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

MICCIO YOU LOVE THE JIG

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and the Abbie From The Zutons thing is because it appears that Ashlee has nicked her hairstyle and her moves.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

MICCIO YOU LOVE THE JIG

I do! I do! My God, if there was a girl in this town who'd do that and make a similar "gorsh! dorky me!" face at the end I'd ask her out immediately.

Oh damn, I just realized my ex would do that stuff. Now I'm depressed.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

and I just heard the Zutons record! It's not bad. Now I have to look up this Abbie person.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.rockclick.co.uk/zutons_030804_11.jpg

(linked from here

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

jesse, who is that baby?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah I looked up Abbie Zuton. She's attractive (but like all women in bands are, at least to me - seriously I could do a gender-flip on Kate's posting style if I dared) but I don't see THAT much similarity. Unless Abbie does that jig.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the feet!

― W i l l (common_person), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

She does, but indie kids don't like making gifs of indie people.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

this is wrong and if I had the technical know-how this would change.

*gif of Laura Ballance pogoing*

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

there is windows media player for OS X.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You're right. That's weird.

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Somebody breaking into a jig after a fuck-up is probably the most endearing thing I've heard of happening on that show in years.

Wasn't she doing the 'jig' before the fuck-up? After, she just sort of slunk off, right?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 October 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

happy to see this board isn't being moderated heavily like the velvet rope

― mikeandike (mikeandike), Monday, 25 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

We get the pop culture we deserve

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Monday, 25 October 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony, that baby is our future President. And/or the reincarnation of Joe C.

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Monday, 25 October 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

there is windows media player for OS X.

-- sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (hot.air.balloo...) (webmail), October 24th, 2004 9:16 PM. (ex machina) (later) (link)


i know. i said i don't feel like waiting to download it just to see a clip of ashlee simpson flubbing a live appearance

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus! The jig dance thing is killing me as well. Just had this emailed to me:

"Here's the word from a friend of mine who was at the show, and got it straight from the director, beth mccarthy, who she was a guest of:

ashlee can't sing. she tried all day friday, but was whining to her voice coach. they decided to leave her mike on so she could sing along to the track, but after the first line or two of the first song, turned her off cause she was awful.

so, as of the first song, all the mikes were off.

now, they had the wrong song queued up for the second song, obviously. it really was the drummer's fault. apparently he was supposed to signal something or start in with some beat, and the one he did was for the first song. because he @#%$ up, the guy doing the tape hurried up and put the first song on, because that was what the drummer had signalled. when this got all @#%$ up, they did two things:

1. turned on all the mikes so the band could take over and start the real song. which they didn't. have no idea why.
2. turned off the tape so the band could play the real song.

they were going to turn on ashlee's mike so she could sing the real song, but decided not to because the band was just playing the first song. the guys were smiling cause they were simply thinking "what a @#%$ clusterfuck".

beth mccarthy was also the director of the superbowl halftime show last year, so she's no stranger to ... malfunctions."

― Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"what a @#%$ clusterfuck"

I'm confused by this. what word is so foul that it has to be censored in a sentence where the word 'clusterfuck' appears right next to it uncensored?

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the implication is that the intensity of the clusterfuck transcends the limitations of language altogether

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Lacan write that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, never mind, I have no idea what Lacan is about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

lacan is about fucking, not language

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"As pointed out on the Fallnet mailing list,
Mark E. Smith does stuff like this all the time then sacks his band. Perhaps Ashleeeeeeeeeeee has been taking tips.

-- Sasha (ahmar...), October 25th, 2004."

Now I've gone back and seen her jig, it looks like she took tips from MES's dancing as well.

― Sasha (sgh), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

so, what's the moral of the story?

― reo, Monday, 25 October 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ashlee needs to drop that Ryan Carbanera bullsheeit, escape creepy papa and SIT ON MY FACE.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait. did I just type that? uhhh.....sorry.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(why yes, I am drunk)

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

sub-jessian at best

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

*does jig, slinks off stage*

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i do have to admit the jig is sorta cute:

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/3611/wtfdance.gif

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It goes with the lights, too.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:46 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously that gif has me entranced.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 25 October 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm loving the jig!

What would you do if, through some random cosmic mishap, you found yourself in exactly her situation? I reckon I'd be doing well to come up with "the jig". Probably a bit of air-guitar for laughs, then bolt.

― Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Grandfather: "You young kids!! Back in MY day, SNL had people who actually performed live!"
Girl: "Aw, Granddad, you sound ridiculous. EVERYONE knows that lip-synching is the way it's done nowadays."
Grandfather: "Well, I just don't understand it. Now, how did you hear about this AShlee Simpson again?"
Girl: "Aw, Granddad, you sound ridiculous. EVERYONE kn... "

― Joe (Joe), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

grrrglr grrrglr spppppfttt..........................

― Joe (Joe), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

[cut to commercial]

― Joe (Joe), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to say I kind of love the smile exchange between the guitarist and the bassist: they clearly consider this particular fuckup no more embarrassing than the rest of the gig.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What would you do if, through some random cosmic mishap, you found yourself in exactly her situation? I reckon I'd be doing well to come up with "the jig". Probably a bit of air-guitar for laughs, then bolt.


-- Piers (pier...), October 25th, 2004.

Geez, I don't know; maybe yell "STOP! We already played that!" and start over?! Being that you're, like, the singer and everything? And supposedly in charge? And (as you can see in the video) your band is looking at you wondering what they should do?

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

.. Or better yet, tell the band to play 'Radio Radio'

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no doubt she fucked it up royally. But I just love that she did the jig!

― Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Dave225: I swear I was typing this before your post came up!!!


If the band had broken into "Radio, Radio," it would have been the greatest meta-moment ever.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Deinitely more entertaining than most SNL music performances of the last 20 years. And yeah, the jig was cool. As is the album, still.

― chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh please.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

No, Chuck's right about it being entertaining. The album, no.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I find myself shocked that I actually like some of her songs and wouldn't sell her record if someone gave it to me as a gift.

Maybe it's just cuz I hate her sister's persona/music so much.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Ashlee's jig >>>>>>> Jimmy Fallon's entire SNL tenure (obviously)

xpost

― chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ashlee's next appearance should be in a Bubba Sparxxx video, I suppose.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh maybe she should cover that Britney/Ying Ying Twins/fiddle-solo song. Or she could do a duet with Shane MacGowan. (Or maybe she was inspired by the Flogging Molly CD, which I still haven't heard yet.)

― chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched this happen saturday night, sunday morning. The first song and the second part where it flubbed. I disagree that it was a lip-synch disaster, more like sequencing screw up and the band wasn't professional enough to know how to stop and regroup. She had a live mic.

I watched the first song she performed never having heard it before except once or twice where I've caught the beginning on the radio and changed the channel. On SNL, the song's intro seemed purposefully sung both on a tape and live, but only for a particular refrain and not the whole song. There was a moment where she fiddled with her earpiece as if it was falling out. But the rest of the time, the mic was live and she sang.

Anyhow, that vocal she sang over in the last song comes up when her second song is supposed to start. Immediately, I recognized that someone hit the wrong preset on whatever software they use to control the samples and live audio. The band on stage just play along with it, like retards, but Ashlee sees that who ever is minding the mixing board can't stop the preset and start the right song while the band is still jamming without the right click track. She jumps off stage, cut to commercial.

I'm no Ashlee fan, but she was singing and her mic was live IMHO.

Hey, did anyone watch Ashlee's MTV series?

Where she had the whole album's recording documented on a weekly show that ran over a few months? Where you see her f*ck up sometimes, and other times sing just fine? And how she got involved in the production alot more than most 18 year-olds of her ilk would.

In the meanwhile, Courtney Love walks the streets and somehow it's better to pick on this Ashlee Simpson because she represents, I guess, the evils of society.

― miller, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I think all the singers on *Saturday Night Live* should start doing this kind of thing on PURPOSE, actually (sort of like John Lydon doing "Poptones" on American Bandstand in 1980, where he refused to sing the words even though they were coming out of the speakers, and he gave the microphone to Dick Clark and just started dancing around.)

― chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

A fantastic clip, that. Not that I wish him dead, but I've always argued that if Chapman had shot John LYDON rather than Lennon that Mr. Lydon would have gone down in history as a goddamned legend straight up.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I disagree that it was a lip-synch disaster

Dude, THE VOCALS STARTED WHEN THE MIC WAS NOWHERE NEAR HER (not moving) MOUTH! STOP LIVING IN DENIAL!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

n the meanwhile, Courtney Love walks the streets

I ain't happy about that either.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh chuck you mean like when NIRVANA was on that English show (Top of the Pops) where they use real vocals but a prerecorded instrumental track and they did their fake guitar playing REALLY FAKE so that it was obvious they weren't really playing (they didn't even move their hands) and KURT sang in a really low lounge singer voice? Are you trying to say that bands should be more like Nirvana?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

xyposty:
The best part is AB didn't cut to a commercial when Lydon went haywire, and instead allowed the band a second number, "Careering", with all the freaky teenagers grooving to the album track while banging to the drum set, with the room mics on. Looked like a shitload of fun. There's a bootleg DVD floating around with the clips on it.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

banging on, that is.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

>Are you trying to say that bands should be more like Nirvana? <

Yeah, sure - -except better! (i.e.: Poison dressing up as girls etc.)

― chuck, Monday, 25 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

was this tidbit metioned:

Her record company, Geffen Records, said there was a computer glitch. Instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of "Pieces of Me" started mistakenly performing, the record company said in a statement.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

This is starting to become the Iraq war of music.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

SOMEBODY'S LYING AND SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE TAKEN TO TASK FOR FUCKING WITH THE HERMETIC SEAL OF LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCE.
http://www.hilaryscott.com/Hil-smash%20guitar-web.jpg
http://www.smothersbrothers.com/albumgifs1/best_of_4.gif
http://tedfelix.com/EasyPhoto/tedsmash.jpg
http://www.fooarchive.com/probot/gw2.jpg

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

those are awesome!!!!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ok sexy dancer wins

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's the dude above Grohl? He looks like a cross between Gareth and TOMBOT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://tedfelix.com/EasyPhoto/tedjam.jpg

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

http://tedfelix.com/TedChain/timeline.htm

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://tedfelix.com/TedChain/buttbass.jpg
The Butt Bass with beer can pickup and
built-in condenser mic.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

http://tedfelix.com/TedChain/member.gif

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

This just in:

Saturday Night Live gaffe exposes Ashlee Simpson’s extra help; she blames band
By David Bauder
NEW YORK (AP) — Singer Ashlee Simpson gets another chance to sing live — perhaps — on national television Monday after walking off Saturday Night Live in a does-she-or-doesn’t-she lip-synch moment.
Simpson is scheduled to perform in Las Vegas for NBC’s Radio Music Awards, scheduled to be televised at 9 p.m. ET.
The 19-year-old was the talk of the Internet after Saturday’s show.
Her record company blamed a computer glitch and she blamed her band, which cut off her planned performance of the song Autobiography on the network comedy show.
Simpson had performed her hit single Pieces of Me without incident earlier in the show. When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing Pieces of Me could be heard again.
She was holding her microphone at her waist at the time. Simpson looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.
Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage 35 seconds into the performance. NBC quickly cut to a commercial.
“What can I say?” guest host Jude Law said with Simpson standing next to him at the end of the show. “Live TV.”
“Exactly,” Simpson said. “I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song. I didn’t know what to do so I thought I’d do a hoe-down.”
Her record company, Geffen Records, said that instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of Pieces of Me started.
But it sounded suspiciously like a guide vocal that’s a common — although almost always unspoken — concert aid. Either the singer lip-synchs by mouthing words to a backing tape or has a live microphone and sings along to the tape, making the voice sound more powerful than it is.
Simpson’s walk-off joins the lore of other unexpected music moments on SNL: Elvis Costello stopping and changing songs on live TV, and Sinead O’Connor tearing up a picture of the Pope.

― Huk-L, Monday, 25 October 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It would be nice to join lore someday.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 25 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

>>The 19-year-old was the talk of the Internet after Saturday’s show.

We are being monitored....

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Monday, 25 October 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"I didn’t know what to do so I thought I’d do a hoe-down.”

WAIT, did she really say that???

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 25 October 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they sure she didn't say "I'd do a ho down"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

She said the hell out of it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

you know what's cool? watching The Kids are Allright and seeing how Keith Moon "drums" during the clips that are lipsynched. He holds his hands high and plays the cymbals like he has limp wrists.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Cable news was running with this story all morning. Its a nice little knee slapper to enjoy with your coffee.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ashlee Owns Up, Takes Responsibility For 'SNL' Lip-Synch Snafu
10.25.2004 1:11 PM EDT

Although she'd initially blamed her band, Ashlee Simpson took full responsibility Sunday for her lip-synching snafu on "Saturday Night Live," saying that her voice was ragged from too much work.

"I can't cancel something like 'SNL,' " she said in a post to her official Web site. "You and I know that even if I synched on it or not, I'd still get seen by millions, maybe even make a few more fans. I'll hold my head high and say I think it was silly of me to do it, silly of me to blame the band, I was just so f---ing embarrassed. But I don't think it did me much harm, and people will see that soon."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1492993/20041025/simpson_ashlee.jhtml?headlines=true

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 25 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

>>But I don't think it did me much harm, and people will see that soon

That's right up there with the comfort I take in knowing that even after they drop The Bomb, cockroaches will continue to roam the earth forever.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll hold my head high and say I think it was silly of me to do it, silly of me to blame the band, I was just so f---ing embarrassed.

Gee that only took her two days.

Any comments/resignations from the band?

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

why would they resign...they obv. don't have any morals or self worth to begin with.

they are ASHLEE SIMPSON'S BACKUP BAND.

― ALLMUSIC.COM (ddb), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

>> f---ing

Is this now okay for Christian whore-lettes to say? Are there any rules governing this? Can you say it on your album, or only in your damage-control press conferences? Can you say it while mistaking your chicken for your tuna?

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Ashlee's jig >>>>>>> Jimmy Fallon's entire SNL tenure (obviously)
xpost

-- chuck (cedd...), October 25th, 2004.

OTM

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Christian whore-lettes. Easy, now -- at this point she's just a lip-synching hoe-downer.

― briania (briania), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Ashlee's jig >>>>>>> Jimmy Fallon's entire SNL tenure (obviously)

sort of like saying that cheese that's been laying out in the sun for 20 days is more edible than cheese that's been laying out in the sun for 50 days, but... um... point taken.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

who in a million years would have known that singers lip-sync on tv? this is shocking shocking SHOCKING. i demand a federal investigation.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Followed by a hoe-down?

― briania (briania), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Jessica's response to all this:

http://c.myspace.com/00027/72/44/27524427_l.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"I won! I won!"

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://drogg.vocodex.org/moorisey/035.gif

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Moz looks like a shaggy Max Headroom in that gif.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Any comments/resignations from the band?

they are hired hands, not some band that has worked together for years and stuck it out through the thick and thin and feel betrayed by their singer or something.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I know. But in a way, that would make me more likely to pack it in, since there's no real history or connection. And knowing that I'd be sacked anyway if I gained a few pounds or got an unapproved haircut or wanted to do some of my songs or someone with a more "punk"-looking bass would work cheaper.

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

or wanted to do some of my songs

hahahaha

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the way they all smirked at each other while playing their limp metal was pretty surreal.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh chuck you mean like when NIRVANA was on that English show (Top of the Pops) where they use real vocals but a prerecorded instrumental track and they did their fake guitar playing REALLY FAKE so that it was obvious they weren't really playing (they didn't even move their hands) and KURT sang in a really low lounge singer voice? Are you trying to say that bands should be more like Nirvana?

Apparently Cobain was trying to sing like Ian Curtis.


Here's that American Bandstand clip of PiL purposefully not "performing" songs from Metal Box... It's so hysterical to see all these idiots try to dance to "Poptones" and "Careering"... http://www.robertlindsley.com/video/PILonABS.mov

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

But in a way, that would make me more likely to pack it in, since there's no real history or connection.

aren't they session guys? they are probably glad to be working at all!

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 25 October 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's so hysterical to see all these idiots try to dance to "Poptones" and "Careering"..."

i've danced to "poptones"--it's possible

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 25 October 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Drive to the forest in a japanese car
The smell of rubber on concrete tar

http://drogg.vocodex.org/moorisey/035.gif

Hindsight done me no good
Standing naked in the back of the woods
The cassette played

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/3611/wtfdance.gif

POPTONES

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, the kids dancing to PiL seem pretty with-it. There's a bunch of them in baseball uniforms n shit.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 25 October 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

he was from one of the gangs from the Warriors.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ThWhat's really bad about this: first show I've seen without Fallon, and really seemed to breathe fresh air of relief. Sketches just saied along; momentum built even though none of it was all that great, the performers and audience seemed to be enjoying themselves so much that I did too. And that never happens, not on this show, not for a long, long time. And yet, public recognition of this miracle has been wiped out by Asslee! Really, right after good-to-go explosives disappearing from stash in Iraq (which White House blamed on their backup band/"interim Iraqi Govt," even though oops turns out Bremer knew about it in May), and Chief Justice getting treatment for *advanced* thyroid cancer, the non-sync was the Ho Ghost of that Trinitee of today's big news items. Not a Fallony, but still a crime of omission!

― Don, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

a pre-recorded track of her voice singing "Pieces of Me" began playing while Simpson was holding her microphone to the side and had her mouth closed

http://nf.wh3rd.net/files/ilx/ashley/Ashlee_Simpson_crashes_and_burns_on_Saturday_Night_Live.mpeg

― ashlee bumbler (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Bff...k....uh....pfft...he he he...he ha ha..ha...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

Do not pass go ever again, do not collect check from makers of Nexium, most overmarketed drug of the year.

MTV NEWS:

Ashlee Blames Gastric Distress For 'SNL' Lip-Synch Snafu

Ashlee Simpson claimed a chronic gastric disorder was the cause of her lip-synching miscue on "Saturday Night Live" this past weekend. The singer said that acid reflux disease caused her to lose her voice and rely on a backing tape for her performance.

...

Simpson said she suffers from a chronic condition of "severe" acid reflux disease — a condition in which the stomach's liquid content regurgitates into the esophagus — and that it began acting up at around 6 p.m. on Saturday, causing her to "completely [lose] my voice." Her doctor advised her not sing, stating that she would damage her voice, and her father and manager, Joe Simpson, insisted she take it easy by using a backing track, a common (if seldom acknowledged) concert aid that allows singers to either lip-synch to, or sing along with, a guide-vocal track. "My dad was like, 'I'm sorry, you have to sing along with the backing track,' " Simpson said Monday.

...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1492993/10252004/simpson_ashlee.jhtml

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Ashlee Simpson Blames Musical Output On Chronic Gastric Disorder

"my stomach's liquid content regurgitates into the esophagus when I sing! I can't help that it sounds like vomit!" - Ashlee Simpson

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The ol' "Kurt Kobain" defense!

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't acid reflux a side effect of bulimia?

― Panty Pryde, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Weekend Update is so much better! They didn't laugh once at their own jokes!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I have acid reflux, as do my mother and father. I have done quite a lot of research on the matter, and have experienced its effects first hand. Losing your voice is not among them. Sore throat can occur in extremely severe cases...ahem...involving bulimia or alcoholism....

― knit, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Knit, do your parents dance like Ian Anderson? Just wondering if the acid reflux explains that part of the Simp's song and dance.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Weekend Update is so much better! They didn't laugh once at their own jokes!

I caught a little bit of this and they sure smirked at their own jokes plenty. And being better than Colin Quinn? Woo. THAT requires practice.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the story/explanation/sorry excuses for this are changing every 12 hours.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

jan berry to thread

― motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught a little bit of this and they sure smirked at their own jokes plenty.

Yeah, but they held back from full-out guffawing and openly complimenting themselves. One step at a time!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ultimately if I was a hardcore humour snob I might not even watch SNL in the 1st place. I don't think its legendary periods were that much greater - it was always a mixed bag - and I don't think the recent/current incarnations are that horrible. I didn't even hate Jimmy Fallon. His Osama bin Laden ("Osama been dere, done dat") and his Robert Smith impersonation were better than AS' jig.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

that PIL clip is great

pre-recorded _elements_ of the original studio recording have been used in live performance for a long time; a 'live band' plays along with the sounds that can't be produced live. even people who are singing live in a stadium show; there's a fader right next to their live mic with the original studio vocal, right there, ready to be brought up. and it really is seamless, I've _watched_ people with their hands on the faders crossfade between live and canned signals for a few seconds, and you can barely hear the transition even when you're watching.

or as a live sound engineer once told me, "yeah, if ______'s having a rough night and doesn't feel like hitting the high notes, we got her covered."

― (Jon L), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a hardcore humor snob, but I'm definitely sick to death of SNL. And I have no idea why I would watch a less intelligent, more self-impressed variaton on The Daily Show (which may well be better than Colin Quinn making Stuttering John look eloquent or Norm MacDonald flipping through his eight punchlines and not moving on from one until he's earned a laugh by hook or crook). If I did watch SNL I'd just wait for the hour-long greatest hits version on Comedy Central.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Weekend Update still Tina Fey but with some new dude?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

With Amy Poehler. It's a totally different dynamic with two chiXors.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The first lip-synching I ever saw on SNL was Paul Simon's "Graceland" performances. The giveaway is Bigithi Khumalo playing his impossible-to-play-because-it's-a-tape-loop-palidrome bass solo on "Diamonds on the Soles of her Shoes". There have been others since.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently she blew her performance on last night's Radio Awards, too. I haven't seen the clip yet, though.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

crash and burn ashleeee simpson... crash and burn.

― scout (scout), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

latest rumor is she was gagging on a cack.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

that gareth/tombot hybrid dude upthread is cracking me up

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, on "SNL," when Paul Simon and band played (IIRC) "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes," the song faded out at the end! Which is odd, because Simon's band is as ace as they come. Steve Gadd!!!

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://drogg.vocodex.org/moorisey/035.gif

ihttp://www.ibw.uni-hamburg.de/lehre/ws0203/iblhh0203/h6/IMG/Markus%20(Henry%20Rollins).jpg

My God, James Hannaham was right.

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://drogg.vocodex.org/moorisey/035.gif

http://www.numbertwopencil.net/graphics/rollins.jpg

My God, James Hannaham was right. Steve Gadd!!!

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That's odd -- ilx told me the first attempt had failed. Damn you, ilx!!!

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night the jig .gif was rendered in double-time. I far preferred it that way and wish someone had synched the music of Rednex' "Cotton Eye Joe" to it.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked the page I saw with tiled jig.gif as a background and a Quicktime file of that "zany" music with the bouncy saxophone riff playing. I'm sure everyone would recognize it if they heard it but I can't describe it better. It often gets played in cheezy comedy shows with the film sped up. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and what the song is called?

― W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S THE BENNY HILL MUSIC

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Gravy. Does it have more name than that?

― W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently it's called "Yakety Sax".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://208.56.81.158/bootsrandolph/images/yacketysax.jpg

― W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude is tolly not wearing boots.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god. don't know who is this girl, but after seeing her dancing around like a cossack I felt really sorry for her...

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Rickey, it's an ironic nickname. Like calling a bald guy "Curly".

― Jesse Fuchs (Jesse Fuchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

MAYBE STEVE GADD NEVER ACTUALLY PLAYED ON ALL THOSE RECORDS!! I BET IT WAS BERNARD PURDIE!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)


DRUDGE..

'60 MINUTES' CAMERAS CAPTURED ASHLEE SIMPSON INCIDENT FROM BACKSTAGE AT 'SNL'
Thu Oct 28 2004 15:43:44 ET

When Ashlee Simpson ran off the "Saturday Night Live" stage last week after her lip-sinc flap, 60 MINUTES cameras were there to record her embarrassing exit and the reaction from show creator Lorne Michaels and other shocked staff members of the show. The exclusive behind-the-scenes footage of the incident will be part of a Lesley Stahl report about the making of the venerable comedy program to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Oct. 31 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Stahl and her cameras were also present for the dress rehearsal of Simpson's performance when she also ran off stage because her voice failed her, necessitating the now notorious live lip-sinc performance that backfired.

60 MINUTES was at the show last Saturday night because Stahl had been shooting footage and interviews all week for a report on how the show is put together. Viewers this Sunday will learn and see how the show is conceived, written and produced each week.

Developing...

― THAT Adam Levine (deangulberry), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That Morresy thing is hypnotic.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 28 October 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This picture almost makes me feel bad for her... almost.

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2004/10/29/image652387x.jpg

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Her hair in that pic almost makes me feel bad for her ... almost.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Nelson Muntz to thread.

― ALLMUSIC.COM (ddb), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

check Kelefa's NY Times article in this Sunday's Arts section - and prepare for the influx:
YAY KELEFA!

― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Lavigne blasts lip-syncers


30/10/2004 - 09:02:18 Avril Lavigne has become the latest pop star to blast her lipsyncing peers, calling them

Avril Lavigne has become the latest pop star to blast her lipsyncing peers, calling them "pathetic."

The Canadian singer was appalled by Ashlee Simpson's performance on last weekend's Saturday Night Live, when she was caught miming to a backing track when her drummer programmed in the wrong tune.

And, speaking to music website Billboard.com, Lavigne says: "There are a lot of people out there today, who have become stars or famous musicians.

"I wouldn't really define them as a star with a record only because they have connections and only because they have money and for the wrong reasons. And it sucks.

"Actually, I know for a fact there are some young female artists who don't even sing on their own records and who don't sing live. And that is pathetic."

― keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really sad to see SNL making such a big deal of it on tonight's show when their current musical guest can't even be bothered to hold the mic up to his mouth while his backing track plays on for half a line.

― Eoin, Sunday, 31 October 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to say.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 31 October 2004 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Avril Lavigne has become the latest pop star to blast her lipsyncing peers, calling them "pathetic."

stalin comdemning hitler? or maybe barney condemning big bird.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry. just random drunken thoughts.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe AaronHz has always just been an alternate persona of Dean's. Weird.

For the record, I didn't read this thread until just now and I am definitely not Dean.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors, the real AaronHz (AaronHz), Sunday, 31 October 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I finally watched the clip. Fucking hilarious.
Those guys in the band are definitely aware of the lameness of their gig.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Those guys in the band are definitely aware of the lameness of their gig.

They're likely paid well enough not to care.

There's a huge thread about the Simpson brouhaha on a pro audio message board that I frequent. A few people have blasted the band for not stopping the song after the obvious snafu, but I would have done exactly what they did and kept playing. I love how the bassist and second guitarist both crack smiles before the cut-to-commercial. It's as if they're saying "Hey, we know how not to make asses of ourselves on live TV.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 31 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly, 60 Minutes is airing a big segment on it this evening (7pm eastern time on CBS) that features lots of backstage footage.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's just great that 60 Minutes is airing a segment on Ashlee Simpson's lipsyncing debacle two days before the election.
And what were her chances of ever being on that show if this hadn't happened?

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Sunday, 31 October 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's just great that 60 Minutes is airing a segment on Ashlee Simpson's lipsyncing debacle two days before the election.

Would you rather more extrapolation on the election???? Hasn't the media been saturated enough? It's not that I think the Ashlee Simpson incident warrants big coverage, but I think the last thing we need is more meaningless election lead-up bullshit.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I just think it's funny.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean seriously, here are the topics being covered tonight:
Soldiers lack the fully armored vehicles necessary to survive constant roadside bombings in Iraq; Arnold Schwarzenegger discusses his interest in running for president; Ashlee Simpson's lip-syncing machine fucked up last weekend and she looked even stupider than she is.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Pre-empted by professional football.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 31 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It won't be in CA.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually heard that 60 minutes was planning to do a segment on SNL this week anyway, that's why they were on the set last week. They just so happened to catch the whole Ashlee Simpson thing, and that turned out to be more interesting than the original story.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I think that's pretty much it. Doing a segment just on SNL is pretty dire if you think about it.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Doing a segment just on SNL is pretty dire if you think about it.

...especially in 2004

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez. In the opening teaser, they make it look like there's never been a miscue or mishap on SNL before.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

There never has, Alex. There never has. You just imagined it.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You're right, Aaron. Forgive me, and remind me never to question my television again.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Very good Alex, I shall cancel the red alert to the thought police.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"OMG, you can make fun of the President! Has anyone ever done that before??"

Not a bad segment, nothing new about Ashlee though.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it wasn't a segment about ashlee. it was a segment about SNL that touched briefly on ashlee because they happened to be filming the segment last week.

a fine fluff-piece of a segment.

lorne michaels' claim that no one has ever lip-synched on SNL except "during dance breaks" (or something to that effect) in recent pop songs rang quite hollow coming a day after eminem lip-synched through a performance in which he was just standing there with a mic (singing live along with a taped lead vocal, as noted on the eminem SNL thread). and the last time i saw britney on SNL she wasn't lip-synching during a dance break. she was lip-synching start to finish. and it didn't sound like she was singing along with a taped vocal either. it sounded 100 percent taped.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it wasn't a segment about ashlee
I know, I just that as a matter-of-fact. Although 60 Minutes did hype the show based on "Ashlee fucked up! And we were there!" premises.

lorne michaels' claim that no one has ever lip-synched on SNL except "during dance breaks"
Yeah, my first thought was "Britney" too.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 1 November 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone on TV ever is a fucking liar and you know it.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

not Matlock!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

MAAAAAATLOOOOOOCK!!!!!

http://www.jumpstation.ca/recroom/comedy/simpsons/images/grampa.gif

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ben Matlock is actually an actor named Andrew Samuel Griffith not a lawyer and therefore a fucking liar as well.

― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

MAAAAAAATLOOOOOCKKKKK!!!!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.music.privateweb.at/rockland/cocker.jpg

FAT ROOOOOOOOOOOCKKKKKK!!!!!!!

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Monday, 1 November 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)


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