Top 5 albums Artists everyone seems to love but you hate

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1: joanna newsom
2: devendra banhart
3: fiery furnaces
4: ariel pink
5: futureheads

owen reading, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is going to be the best thing since Use or Illusion III.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Smiths
Bob Dylan
David Bowie
Rolling Stones
The Verve

mei (mei), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

you must live in a pretty weird place if you can't find other people who don't like newsom and banhart. I mean, I like both of them, but they're pretty polarizing figures.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Kenny G
Dave Matthews Band
Clay Aiken
Creed
Vanilla Ice

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

every corner I turn someone is raving about them. i rarely hear negative words. occasionally I do, but on the whole they get universally amazing press. barely anyone calls them out on their "act" , at least that's how I see it. i actually think the music itself is not that bad, it's just the lyrics and vocals that kill me

owen reading, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the lyrics are the best part, imo.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the killers
franz ferdinand
new modest mouse
kanye west
...

reo, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I hardly think "everyone seems to love" Kenny G, Dave Matthews, Vanilla Ice or Dylan, for that matter.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

poly: too formulaic and "fanciful" "whimsy" stuff. all this talk of making trees sing, teeth dance, la la la. just seems a little forced. like "look i'm wearing tattered clothes and look like jesus".

owen reading, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

your "seems a little forced" is my "just having fun".

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I have an extremely high tolerance for whimsy, false or otherwise.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

every corner I turn someone is raving about them. i rarely hear negative words. occasionally I do, but on the whole they get universally amazing press. barely anyone calls them out on their "act" , at least that's how I see it. i actually think the music itself is not that bad, it's just the lyrics and vocals that kill me
-- owen reading (owenreadin...), January 18th, 2005.

just wait for the backlash, it'll come!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Devendra Banhart = Adam Sandler skit taken too far

joygoat, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the fiery furnaces
i've tried but it all feels a little too shambolic and too clever for its own good.

the killers
i was hoping to like them but it sounds like lots of things i've heard before (which isn't a problem) only not as good (which is a problem)

the smiths
i can't stand morrissey's voice. i just hate it, which is annoying because the music is clearly fantastic. a similar problem ruins led zepp for me.

joss stone
i'm not sure if it's true that everybody likes her but she certainly seems to be a fave with the music press and i really can't see why. she's a very good karaoke singer but that's about it. if she was a black girl from deptford would the critics react the same way?

se3_uk (se3_uk), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yes reo

any modest mouse
futureheads
lil' jon
kanye west
bonnie 'prince' billy

I don't really hate most of those, but for the most part I either got nothing out of them or really struggled to get through their album(s). Junior Boys also do very little for me. [/heresy]

sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

1. The Clash
2. David Bowie
3. Franz Fenujida
4. Stevie Wonder
5. Morissey

4 real

datazz, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Radiohead - OK Computer
Nirvana - Nevermind
White Stripes - White Blood Cells
Elliott Smith - XO
Pearl Jam - Vs.

timnyc (timnyc), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

1.Kanye West- College Dropout
About 3 good tracks (and that's being generous), the rest is all filler. His style is refreshing but that album was more than disapointing. I could go on for months about how overrated he is, but I won't.

2. The Killers
The front man's vocals are enough to keep me away. How *dare* someone refer to them as the new Duran Duran....sacrilage!

3.Morissey
I'm just tired of indie kids and music nerds touting him as some sort of musical Jesus.

4.Eminem
Most of his songs are just...not good. The production on a lot of his songs is terrible and his media image annoys me. He should stick to doing funny songs though instead of the aggresive crap he puts out.

5.The Postal Service
I actually like "Such Great Heights" and some of Dntl's stuff before this band appeared, but they are hugely overrated. Ever since they appeared on *that soundtrack* to *that movie* I always associate them with people who identify themselves as "scene"......ewwww.

kevin says relax (daddy warbuxx), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave Matthews Band (Though I don't hate them NEARLY as much as I did)
Radiohead
Creed
Most David Bowie
Aerosmith

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, who actually calls themselves "scene"? 12 year olds? my sisters might... but they're little girls...

eminem
captain beefheart
the faint
99.9% of underground hiphop
the shins

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

1-5. Lou Reed

Even more accurately, I have no idea why he's considered so important.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Lou Reed is a repugnant person, imo, but I still love the Velvet Underground and a couple LR solo records. I've always been more of a John Cale guy, though.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Destiny's Child (I'll fuckin' never understand it)
2. Michael Jackson
3. Van Morrison
4. Wilco
5. Bob Dylan

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Bjork
Talking Heads

I can't think of more than those two.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex in NYC and I are very different people.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

you just killed my two favorite lyricists, leon. i have long suspected that bjork and david byrne are both aliens who have been sent here to teach us about ourselves.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Girls Aloud - the UK pop Franz Ferdinand.

Franz Ferdinand - duh.

Joss Stone - yes, she's "black and soulful", alright.

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

6. the Notorious B.I.G
7. Tupac Shakur
8. Patti Smith
9. Usher
10. Lynrd Skynrd

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't understand anyone actually hating David Bowie.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Kanye West
2. White Stripes
3. Dylan (Although it's really just him and not his songs, cause anyone else covering a Dylan tune is usually pretty good.)
4. Interpol

That's all I can think of at the moment.

Oh, Alex, you left out a couple "y"s whe you spelled Lynyrd Skynyrd. It's fine you don't like them... I'm just sayin'... Know your enemy and all that.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Arcade Fire (Huh?)
2. Fiery Furnaces (Intentionally unlistenable drokk)
3. Yeah Yeah Yeahs (Are they 15?)
4. Franz Ferdinand (Just don't get the love)
5. Joanna Newson (OMG THE VOICE KILL ME NOW WHERE IS MY BLADE)

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

duly noted, martin

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

SONIC YOUTH.

I'll think of more later.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't actually hate the Go! Team, but most of the comments I read about them suggest that people need to make some Japanese connections.

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Led Zep
Springsteen
post-The Bends Radiohead
Jeff Buckley
Public Enemy

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Velvet Underground
2. Bob the fuck Dylan
3. Missy Elliot
4. The Arcade Fiery Furnaces
5. god damn MORRISSEY

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Joanna Newsom
Joanna Newsom
Joanna Newsom
Joanna Newsom
Joanna Newsom
is that five yet?

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah thanks 57 for reminding me... there's my number 5: Yeah Yeah Yeahs. What a fucking yawnfest.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Only two biggies I can think of right now:

- Radiohead
- Pulp

There are plenty I don't understand the love for, but still quite like a bit.

KeithW (kmw), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, just about anyone NME has repped in the last 4 years.

Captain GRRRios' Giggletits (Barima), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

stone roses
beck
red hot chili things
radiohead
franz ferdinand

could do a lot better, but needed to rush me five

hull hole (hull hole), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Radiohead
2. Tim Buckley
3. The Pogues
4. Anything that falls under "pub rock."
5. Xiu Xiu

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

arcade fire (and I'm yet to get my order yet..sucker or what?)

another one that i've been holding off on though .m83. way better than I thought. Over hyped: slagged to bits.....good in my paltry book. sounds good.

hull hole (hull hole), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Spot on with the Pogues. Sick of having a 'good time' to the Pogues.

hull hole (hull hole), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Pixies.
They're so wacky!
I will grant that they have had a positive effect on rock music, but their albums do nothing for me.

I'd say Firehose too, but I don't think everyone likes them anymore. Living in the past here.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Van Morrison
Neutral Milk Hotel
The Thermals
Big & Rich
Kraftwerk

darin (darin), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

5. Xiu Xiu
-- polyphonic

Kraftwerk
-- darin

Franz Ferdinand
-- a bunch of people

Agreed.

sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't hate these guys, I just can't appreciate them:

1. Bright Eyes (no, wait, I HATE this one.)
2. Van Morrison
3. Gary Wilson
4. Echo & Bunnymen (oh yea, hate them, too.)
5. My Morning Jacket

More interesting, though...

Used to love, recently experiencing enigmatic, swelling dislike for:
1. Beach Boys
2. Spiritualized
3. Blur
4. Van Morrison
5. Interpol

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I have trouble seperating "don't get" from "hate". And it looks like a lot of other people have that problem too. Can you really hate the Arcade Fire? Is there enough there too hate, or is it the hype? I've downloaded their album twice, and deleted it twice, I don't get it, but I'm not sure about the hate. I don't get Patti Smith and can't listen to her, have tried - but can't, But I don't hate her.

Hate?

1. Sting
2. Jamie Callum
3. Toby Keith
4. Lenny Kravitz
5. Murder City Devils

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There aren't any bands that people whose opinion I respect sing the praises of that I outright "hate".

Although I have long given up trying to enjoy Morrissey, Lambchop, or NRBQ, I don't hate them. I dislike them too much to actually qualify for hatred, i.e, I'm really not familiar enough with their work to "hate" it since I haven't been able to muster the wherewithal to listen to more than a few of their songs (all of which sucked balls).

Other innumerable mainstream shitfactories like DMB, Kravitz, or Usher are not championed by anyone I care about in the musical opinion department, so I won't waste anymore time outlining how deeply I loath these "artists"; it is outside the context of the thread title as I understand it.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost
I deleted Arcade Fire's album once too, but it's definitely taken hold the second time around. The album being number one anything still baffles me but whatever. Based on the original list I presume I'd love Ariel Pink whoever that is, kind of a bizarro recommendation, I dig those, yep.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say Firehose too, but I don't think everyone likes them anymore. Living in the past here.

That's fIREHOSE to you, mister. And I love their first album, Ragin' Full On.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Listened to Ragin' Full On recently, thinking I would have a new perspective. Unlistenable. I don't think it's just because the Minutemen were so great, either. Hm, just realized was supposed to list 5, but I'd better quit while I'm behind...

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually the rest was easily compiled from glancing at the thread:

1. The Pixies
2. fIREHOSE
3. Junior Boys
4. Arcade Fire
5. The Smiths

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

6. Merzbow

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Listened to Ragin' Full On recently, thinking I would have a new perspective. Unlistenable. I don't think it's just because the Minutemen were so great, either. Hm, just realized was supposed to list 5, but I'd better quit while I'm behind..

Just out of curiosity, what are (a) your favorite album of the last year and (b) your favorite album of all time?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't say I hate them, but five acts I've never understood the vast appealof, never been wild about and never need to hear from again:

1. Smashing Pumpkins
2. Radiohead
3. Beck
4. Afghan Whigs
5. Pavement.

Actually, I take back (5), I do hate Pavement. Fuck'em.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

1) Speakerboxxx/The Love Below: My reasons have been (far too) well-documented. Clarification might be in order: I don't hate the Andre half because it's not hip-hop; I hate it because it's half-competent pop. Dungeon Family's Even in Darkness is seriously about 10x better, and that's including the Big Boi material (which is still pretty good).
2) White Light/White Heat: The only time I liked "Sister Ray" was when I heard it pared down to three minutes -- and accompanying footage of the Lawrence Welk band. That was a hoot. "The Gift" is boring and should probably only need to be heard once, if ever, by any listener (though I should look into the "shut Cale up by killing one of the stereo channels" trick). The title track is clangy and catchy but sounds like one of the most insincere attempts at being Little Richard ever put to wax. I forget what else is on the album.
3) Britney Spears: Fuck your rockism accusations. I just don't like her for the same reason most people hate Bono: she's just an inane human being. She's got some great production (though "Toxic" sounds like Fatboy Slim '98 next to the peaks on Anniemal), and she can sing just fine; honestly I'd probably hate her less if she was some elusive, enigmatic 25 year-old from Sweden or something. But she's the one artist I have the hardest time separating Public Media Image from music -- the latter may be great pop, but I can't hear it without being nausated by the former.
4) Joni Mitchell: If she sang like Rickie Lee Jones, I'd probably own everything she recorded from 1970-1976. I just can't take the super-high-pitched tone she sings with, no matter how good a composer and songwriter she is.
5) Gang of Four: Depressing and hopeless. I actually had one of my most vivid, disconcerting ruminations on the idea of my own mortality once while listening to them on a commute to work, and sold my copy of their greatest hits album a few days later. That, and I got into the Minutemen and also, well, actual disco.

I am stunned that nobody's posted a top 5 comprised entirely of bands I really like. I am less stunned that few people are actually justifying their lists.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Justifying my list:

1. Radiohead: I don't really hate Radiohead, and probably will decide that I love them 20 years from now when the critical acclaim dies down a bit (although that seems to already be starting).

2. Tim Buckley: Hate hate hate hate his voice. Hate it. Decent enough songwriter.

3. The Pogues: This is the soundtrack to every awful American "Irish pub" I've ever been to. Why do I keep going back?

4. Anything that falls under "pub rock": I love Nick Lowe so much, but this stuff just makes my eyes bleed. So very boring.

5. Xiu Xiu: Terrible voice, terrible lyrics. Also, no one who lives in San Jose should make music like this, come on.

6. Merzbow: This just sounds like noise to me.[/irony]

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

bjork
devendra
nine inch nails
xiu xiu
outkast

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, Nate, but anyone who hates Gang of Four is my enemy and Britney Spears does not "sing just fine."

I imagine you're crushed by this.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(Clarification: "Toxic" sounds like Fatboy Slim '98 = great, but in a way that seems so unsubtly eager to please that it can backfire at the wrong time)

Alex, I have come to realize that anyone who enjoys dancing is your enemy. So I'm not particularly mortified here.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say Firehose too, but I don't think everyone likes them anymore. Living in the past here.

I love fIREHOSE. Dare I say even more than the Minutemen - a band I appreciate, but don't really love. Mr. Machinery Operator is not very good, but Flyin' The Flannel is one of my favorite albums ever.

joygoat, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

CMJ NMR Issue - 897
Radio 200
TW LW 2W PK WKS ARTIST + TITLE LABEL

1
2 4 1 9 NEKO CASE The Tigers Have Spoken Anti

2 1 1 1 9 FUTUREHEADS The Futureheads StarTime International-Sire

3
3 2 2 8 LUNA Rendezvous Jetset

4
112 - 4 2 FIERY FURNACES EP Rough Trade

5 4 6 4 7 HANDSOME BOY MODELING SCHOOL White People Atlantic-Elektra

6
- - 6 1 LOW The Great Destroyer Sub Pop

7
- - 7 1 BRIGHT EYES I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning Saddle Creek

8
168 - 8 2 KINGS OF LEON Aha Shake Heartbreak RCA-BMG

9 5 3 2 9 TED LEO AND THE PHARMACISTS Shake The Sheets Lookout!

10
11 13 10 10 JIMMY EAT WORLD Futures Interscope

11
19 30 11 4 STYROFOAM Nothing's Lost Morr Music

12 10 9 9 5 U2 How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb Interscope

13 7 5 4 10 NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS Abattoir Blues/The Lyre Of Orpheus Anti

14
31 - 14 2 TUSSLE Kling Klang Troubleman Unlimited

15
15 11 7 15 DEATH FROM ABOVE 1979 You're A Woman, I'm A Machine Vice

16
17 19 16 5 MF DOOM MM..Food Rhymesayers

17 9 17 9 5 DFA COMPILATION #2 Various Artists DFA

18 8 7 1 12 ELLIOTT SMITH From A Basement On The Hill Anti

19 13 10 10 12 HIDDEN CAMERAS Mississauga Goddam Rough Trade

20 14 8 8 6 MATES OF STATE All Day [EP] Polyvinyl



dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

There are two albums on that list I give a crap about. Guess which ones!

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Nina Simone
Smashing Pumpkins


I think that's it. I'm not very hateful. I mean, hate is a strong word.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this thread. But hey also what a great opportunity for me to lose the respect of everyone here. I've already mentioned a couple of these in my other post but here I go:

1. The Streets - what mood is his music supposed to put you in or create? To me it might as well be an audiobook.

2. Broken Social Scene - I'm not even joking when I say this: I put this on when I want to fall asleep. It's pleasant enough, I suppose. But hardly great.

3. The Stills - I have a friend who LOVES that Still in Love Song but the vocalist just doesn't have a strong presence. The album just drones on and on.

4. U2 - Is anyone else surprised about the amount of love this is getting from reviewers? With the exception of perhaps Crumbs From Your Table, it seems so forced.

5. Prefuse 73 - The first couple tracks on One Word Extinguisher blew me away but after that it gets downright annoying.

Wookie Rookie, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i cannot stand jeff buckley.

Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Girls Aloud - the UK pop Franz Ferdinand

Uhhhh... I thought Franz Ferdinand were the UK pop Franz Ferdinand.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

in order:

1. Sonic Youth
2. Elvis Presley
3. The Notorious B.I.G.
4. M.I.A.
5. Patti Smith

HONORABLE MENTION: Madonna (1995-present)

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this is stuff which has come from social midst, since i was a kid. i mean why go after stuff you're not exposed to it in otherwise normal circumstances and/or company? so these bands for me have been substandard nuisances within natural, typically aesthetically pleasurable, music listening enviroments. often they've hit me in such a way as tho i could literally 'feel' the quality of shared jams taking a sharp step or five straight down. your basic pure disappointment, wind out of sails, "dear god, why?" experiences:

sebadoh
pumpkins
replacements
soundgarden
swervedriver

noizem duke (noize duke), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

the very last pumpkins album had some interesting stuff tho, when they clearly were less precious about everything

noizem duke (noize duke), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I am stunned that nobody's posted a top 5 comprised entirely of bands I really like. -- me, a few posts ago

[...]

1. Sonic Youth
2. Elvis Presley
3. The Notorious B.I.G.
4. M.I.A.
5. Patti Smith

-- Mr. Snrub

That'd be it, then.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

10. Lynrd Skynrd

Aw HELL YEAH. SKYNARD HATUHZ UNITE! And the next time I hear someone - anyone yell out "Free Bird" as an encore at a gig, without even stopping to consider the fact that the music the act in question plays bears absolutely noooo resemblance to Skynard in the first place...when the hell did this trend start? Who started it? Are there just an army of people out there who go to gigs with the sole purpose of yelling out for this song? Don't they have anything better to do with their time?

Here's the rest of my list:

1. Van Morrison
2. The Streets
3. Pavement
4. Tim Buckley (polyphonic OTM - I just cannot DEAL with this man's voice/drawl. I'm a huge Jeff Buckley fan, too, which really complicates matters. Wish I could understand all the Tim love.)


Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

And the next time I hear someone - anyone yell out "Free Bird" as an encore at a gig, without even stopping to consider the fact that the music the act in question plays bears absolutely noooo resemblance to Skynard in the first place

Isn't that the point though? Irony and all that?

I don't know that much about Skynyrd myself but I really like "Sweet Home Alabama".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand
The Fall
Eminem
Belle and fucking Sebastian
U2

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

is it me, or are half of the artists everyone's listing not "albums Artists"? i mean, I generally think of albums artists as having more than one album... also they seem to have more albums than (maybe hit) singles. I can see huge fucking fallacies in my argument, but M.I.A.? Destiny's Child? the lists with, say, The Smiths on them are much more interesting than the ones with The Arcade Fire. whoop-dee-doo! I hate the Arcade Fire! aren't i being Blindingly Original?

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm thinking Franz Ferdinand would be a better example for that last one.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Franz Ferdinand
The Fall
Eminem
Belle and fucking Sebastian
U2
-- J-rock

I was waiting for someone to say The Fall. Ouch.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, but if it makes you feel better I adore Pavement and they've made a couple people's lists already.

In defence of the Franz Ferdinand selection, I think that the sheer volume of glowing accolades they've recieved in the past year make them a fair target. Who said that hate had to be "blindingly original?"

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"is it me, or are half of the artists everyone's listing not "albums Artists"?

I read this to mean albums OR artists.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

but i mean surely there's some bigger, more important artist that actually deserves the time spended to discuss one's hate of it!

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess this isn't exactly a discussion thread, though.

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Frank Fucking Zappa - the only good things he ever did were helping the careers of Alice Cooper and Captain Beefheart, influencing the Fall, and dying before his time.

2. The Fucking Eagles - I can handle the rock if I must, but the countrified stuff make me want to kill myself and everyone around me.

3. Smashing Pumpkins - the most boring, overrated band of the '90s. Billy Corgan's voice is wretched and the songs are just bad metal dressed up in indie clothing ("1979" excepted, which is bad metal in New Order clothing and I like that).

4. ______________________ Insert your favourite mainstream/modern R&B performer.

5. Nine Inch Nails. See #3. I should hope people have grown out of them by now.

Kent Burt (lingereffect), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

When I saw that list, I thought for a second I was reading the OTHER thread.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

fiery furnaces
steely dan

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Listened to Ragin' Full On recently, thinking I would have a new perspective. Unlistenable. I don't think it's just because the Minutemen were so great, either. Hm, just realized was supposed to list 5, but I'd better quit while I'm behind..

Just out of curiosity, what are (a) your favorite album of the last year and (b) your favorite album of all time?

Just because I don't know any better, I'll answer. I don't really have single favorites, so
a) some albums from last year I've listened to a lot are Deerhoof's "Milk Man" and Byrne's "Grown Backwards." Also "SMiLE".
b) really no one favorite, but a few are The Fall's "Grotesque," the first Raincoats album (hm, the second one too), the Who "Sell Out", Faust "IV".

FWIW on the whole fIREHOSE thing I happen to think the Minutemen peaked before Double Nickles, so maybe I wouldn't have liked them in the fIREHOSE years either (i.e. w/the real d.Boon instead of the ersatz version).

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

1. The Smiths -- I'm glad to see a few other people cited this, as I often feel alone in my hatred.

2. Nirvanna -- hated them then, maybe sorta think a couple songs are ok now but still generally hate them

3. The Clash -- really I just think they're meh, not hateful

4. Fiery Furnaces -- but since every other post on this thread picks that, I guess it's not really an artist "everyone seems to love"

5. The Streets

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

6. Tupac Shakur -- terrible rapper, not even close to on par with Biggie

7. PiL

8. Big Star -- BOOOOOOOORRRING. If they had actually "made it" back then they'd be ignored by now.

9. Sgt. Pepper's -- I'll say it, and I'm a Beatle's fan. It's a couple of decent songs and a lot of corny nonsense. But it has a "concept".

10. John Zorn

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Like, all John Zorn?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

PULP

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(except for "common people" -- the rest is useless)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Nina Simone

Oh man, I forgot about Nina. Not liking Nina is perhaps the thing I'm most ashamed of, musically. I really, really want to like her. Everyone I respect *adores* her. I admire her craft and originality, but get no enjoyment out of listening to her.

I would also like to submit for consideration Diana Krall.

Also, I would just like to add that, out of the pool of artists respected by virtually no one I respect, Josh Groban, Charlotte Church and Andrea Bocelli are among the ones I hate the very most.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not that different from the rest of the album.

xpost

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Like, all John Zorn?"

Well, everything I've ever heard by Masada or Naked City annoyed the crap out of me.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Big Star -- BOOOOOOOORRRING.

I can accept this, it's just not your thing.

If they had actually "made it" back then they'd be ignored by now.

Listen, just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean that the band's fans have some sort of hipster pretense for liking the band. Maybe Big Star would be ignored, but I'd still be in love with their first three albums.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i don't see the common people v. rest of album thing. It sounds like a pretty cohesive record to me.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Listen, just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean that the band's fans have some sort of hipster pretense for liking the band

Yeah, you're right. I hate it when other people make this kind of judgment so it's fair to call me out for it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i don't see the common people v. rest of album thing. It sounds like a pretty cohesive record to me.

my logic here is simple -- i think that "common people" is a great single. the rest of that record -- indeed, most of the rest of pulp's oeuvre -- does nothing for me.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:38 (twenty-one years ago)

that makes more sense, though I disagree!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

re: big star discussion
i love the beach boys since i was a kid, and viewed their indie love with bemusement as it rose up, but enjoyed even more the reaction of horror by those caught in the crossfire, perhaps those coming over into that world from hardcore/post-hardcore, to the fact that of all things the beach boys were supposed to be cool now. they couldn't fuckin believe it! the beach boys??!!!
now that was a 90's snapshot moment.

noizem duke (noize duke), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I still associate them with Full House a little bit.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i got caught up in that wave, as I came from hardcore/post-hardcore, but yet I decided to stay!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"the reaction of horror by those caught in the crossfire, perhaps those coming over into that world from hardcore/post-hardcore, to the fact that of all things the beach boys were supposed to be cool now. they couldn't fuckin believe it! the beach boys??!!!"

I'd attribute this to two things:

1. Most people think/thought of Beach Boys as "that surf band" and weren't aware of Pet Sounds and Smiley Smile

2. Uncle Jesse on Full House

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing I hate about this 90s beach boys thing (of which I was a part) is that it boiled down to this "the early surf shit is terrible, but pet sounds and smile are masterpieces", when in fact, the early stuff is incredible, especially once they started to hit stride. I listen to Today and All Summer Long as much as I listen to anything else, and even surfin' usa is a great record.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i just want to say to sleep:

lil' jon is the best answer.

bless you.


(as i sit here listening to joanna newsom, ha!)

reo, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think some of the early Beach Boys stuff is pretty awesome too.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i fucking hate "kokomo" and the full house thing is creepy.

reo, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

eminem, why didn't i think of that?

reo, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, I have come to realize that anyone who enjoys dancing is your enemy. So I'm not particularly mortified here.

So not true. But I pity those who enjoy dancing to crap.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The Killers
Modest Mouse
Dillinger Escape Plan
The Explosion
Oasis

Mike D (nullnvoid), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
late to the game, but what the fuck:

ARTISTS:

1. BOB FUCKING DYLAN
2. pavement (see also sebadoh, built to spill, etc.)
3. hüsker dü
4. pulp (as i stated above)
5. FUCKING WILCO

ALBUMS:

1. anything by wilco (that's at least 5, right there)
2. anything by hüsker dü
3. abbey road (paul's half of it, anyway)
4. franz ferdinand
5. loaded (though i LOVE the other velvets' rekkids)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

comparing me to alex:

1. Destiny's Child -- i can take 'em or leave 'em, though i like 'em more than i dislike 'em
2. Michael Jackson -- some songs OK, many more aren't.
3. Van Morrison -- i LOVE astral weeks and moondance. i could do w/t the rest of his stuff.
4. Wilco -- see above
5. Bob Dylan -- see above
6. the Notorious B.I.G -- yer outta yer mind here, alex
7. Tupac Shakur -- see comment on biggie. his estate's habit of releasing EVERYTHING he's ever done, on the other hand.
8. Patti Smith -- in 100% agreement, here.
9. Usher -- yer insane here, alex.
10. Lynyrd Skynyrd -- i think that they're OK, occasionally great. but not the 1st thing i'd listen to.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

1. john lennon
2. replacements
3. jeff buckley
4. animal collective (sorry fellow pforkians)
5. xiu xiu

scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll play.

1. My Bloody Valentine. Granted, I've only listened to Loveless, but I've also given it many, many close listens. Up to "To Here Knows When" -- so far so good. After that, it starts boring me to fucking tears. Yeah, they're doing the wall of sound thing, but in the EXACT SAME 5-SECOND LOOP REPEATED FOR FIVE FUCKING MINUTES!!!!! It never changes and goes on and on and on. This seriously bugs the hell out of me, and I can never finish the record. Which is a shame, 'cuz by everyone's account it's exactly the sort of thing I'd LOVE, but in the end I only hear a few good songs and a bunch of really disappointing, boring ones -- to the point where I've seriously wondered, several times, if I was listening to a totally different cd then the one everyone talks about.

2. Mountain Goats. Similar situation to the above -- I've listened to "We Shall All Be Healed" and "Ghana" a million times, "Coroner's Gambit" and "Talahassee" a few times, tried to convince myself that the former are brilliant, then realized that his lyrics pull the same apocalyptic, things-are-sure-gonna-blow trick WAY too often without going any deeper, and that many of his songs sound like tepid coffee-house rock. I think he has a few truly brilliant moments -- "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix's Life", "Family Happiness", "Palmcorder Yajna" -- but not enough to justify the rest.

3. Boredoms - Super AE. Boredoms are in my top-five of all time, mainly for VCN, Super Roots 5-8 (esp. 5) and Chocolate Synthesizer; I just can't get into Super AE (the repetition problem again).

4. VU - self-titled. Again, the repetition thing. I mean, repeating yourself over and over is fine, as long as there are some tiny variations to latch on to. When there aren't, it drives me crazy. (WL/WH is the antithesis to this because, thankfully, feedback is so dynamic.)

5. Belle and Sebastian. OK, "witty lyrics," yeah, nice try. Music = similarly bleh.

Please feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 3 February 2005 06:05 (twenty-one years ago)

re: morrissey

he's really only as good as the musicians he's with at a given moment, isn't he? e.g., you are the quarry sounds like sheryl crow's band, only w/ morrissey singing.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The bartender at my local tonight proclaimed that Joanna Newsom is "better than Bob Dylan ever was" and I thought pretty seriously about punching him.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 February 2005 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

I don't have five and I wouldn't say I HATE them necessarily but I get a lot of shit for not liking Led Zeppelin and Radiohead.

☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Thursday, 25 June 2009 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks to ILM there's no artist in my mind that "everyone" seems to love. Outside of the bubble though Kings of Leon get a lot of props and while I liked them before they were cool (ha ha I'm such a trendsetter) I really don't like their new stuff. I must say though that I have never met anyone who likes them and doesn't find at least one of them attractive so maybe that's my problem.

master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Thursday, 25 June 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

My list would go:

-Pink Floyd
-Led Zeppelin (this one should be on top on the merit that I find them not just unpleasant but plain awful. I wonder if I'm just missing the Led Zep gene or something)
-Radiohead (everything except "Creep")
-Pearl Jam
-The White Stripes

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Thursday, 25 June 2009 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

i hate the idea of U2 immensely, while being largely indifferent to their music these days. if that's enough to qualify them, i'm gonna go with that.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 25 June 2009 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

Love
The Rolling Stones
The Cure
Minutemen
Bruce Springsteen

davek_00, Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:26 (sixteen years ago)

The Streets
Manu Chao
Depeche Mode (except for their early, cheery tunes)
Company Flow
Eminem

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:27 (sixteen years ago)

Love
The Who
The Fall
Pavement
Jay Z

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:47 (sixteen years ago)

New List for `09

Mariah Carey
Erykah Badu
Kanye West
Arcade Fire
Feist
Lil Wayne

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:56 (sixteen years ago)

It's been the same list for years: U2, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, The Doors... and until about three years ago, the fifth name would have been Led Zeppelin. But I like Led Zep now, so there's a vacancy.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:13 (sixteen years ago)

U2
Bruce Springsteen
Nirvana
the Doors
Velvet Underground

Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:21 (sixteen years ago)

How could anyone hate the Velvet Underground?

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:28 (sixteen years ago)

Arcade Fire

Not goth enough.

The New Beautiful South's New Bassist (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:29 (sixteen years ago)

I think they're quite easy to hate (xp)

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:30 (sixteen years ago)

Astonished Tom Waits hasn't been mentioned yet!

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

Arcade Fire

Not goth enough.

Not goth good enough.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

Belle and Sebastian
Bob Dylan
Spiritualized
U2
The Verve

chap, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:31 (sixteen years ago)

"How could anyone hate the Velvet Underground?"

Pretty simply. I think they suck. I might ask how anyone could hate Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:33 (sixteen years ago)

Velvet Underground
Bob Dylan
The Who
Led Zeppelin
My Bloody Valentine

[email protected] (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

Dylan, Floyd, U2, Doors. Radiohead and Rolling Stones I like a few songs by each. I guess The Doors too, actually (like, three songs by them). Dylan, Floyd, U2, though, I have no interest in at all (bar Achtung Baby for U2).

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:42 (sixteen years ago)

Radiohead - like some stuff from OK Computer, Kid A and Amnesiac, but not enough to care about. Despite Pablo Honey, the Bends, Hail to the Queef, that boring one with Faux arp or whatever it was called.
Lot of people putting U2 here, so I will too, although I'm not really sure everyone likes them.
The Doors - always thought that Jim Morrison was a dilettante, alcoholic spouting nonsense who got taken seriously because he was way handsome and had the right look.
Led Zep - Just don't like them.
The Rolling Stones - Same as above.

suggestzybandias (jim), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

despise even, jeez

suggestzybandias (jim), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

"How could anyone hate the Velvet Underground?"

Pretty simply. I think they suck. I might ask how anyone could hate Lynyrd Skynyrd.

At least the VU brought something genuinely new to the table. Fuck have Skynyrd ever done other that reinforcing slackjawed Southern stereotypes and boring the world senseless with interminable, masturbatory guitar solos?

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:53 (sixteen years ago)

My answer to this question is invariably The Smiths

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:54 (sixteen years ago)

smiths seconded in a heartbeat.

[email protected] (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:55 (sixteen years ago)

Beatles
Springsteen
Dylan
Joni Mitchell
Tom Waits

^ don't really hate any of these though

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:56 (sixteen years ago)

I hate Joni Mitchell.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

She's inherently hateable.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

I have never, ever seen the appeal in Springsteen but he has written a nice, if forgettable, tune or two

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:59 (sixteen years ago)

Rolling Stones are also on my 'not appreciated' list

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

Springsteen seems like a nice enough guy (y'know, despite cheating on his wives and all that), but I just can't behind his music.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

You don't want to behind his music, really.

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

Joan Baez
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Kings of Leon

^ these I hate

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:10 (sixteen years ago)

Agreed with RHCP

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:11 (sixteen years ago)

... and Snow Patrol

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)

Oh Christ, of COURSE! I'm filling the vacancy left by Led Zep's departure with:

Scott.
Bloody.
Walker.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

you
are
crazy

;-)

☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

x-post
I'm always amused by how vocal the Dylan haters are out there; they're practically foaming at the mouth with bile. I don't see that happening with many other artists. It's like listening to Yankees fans bitch about the Red Sox, or vice versa. ("You actually enjoy listening to that old geezer sing with razor blades in his throat? He sucks!") As if any of Dylan's admirers give a shit.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:18 (sixteen years ago)

The haters don't give a shit that the admirers don't give a shit, so everyone's a winner

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

backlash against the backlash against the croaking fraud

[email protected] (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

Not so much "hate" as never really got, but anyway:

The Cure
The Clash
Patti Smith
Leonard Cohen
and sorry, but Bob Dylan

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

admirers don't give a shit

Oh but sometimes they do. I've been practically yelled at for not liking L Zep before. Granted that person was an asshole but still. Have also been accused of not really liking or knowing anything about music because of the same. Riiiight. Idiots.

☺☻☺☻come on ppl now smile on u brother☺☻☺☻ (ENBB), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

springsteen
black-eyed piss
eminem
motley crue
van halen

m coleman, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)

bon jovi are probably my most-hated of all time but I can't be alone right? also scott OTM on nina simone. cabaret blues - ugh.

m coleman, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:33 (sixteen years ago)

"Fuck have Skynyrd ever done other that reinforcing slackjawed Southern stereotypes and boring the world senseless with interminable, masturbatory guitar solos?"

Yeah, man, nice argument. You really got me there.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

Right on.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:34 (sixteen years ago)

Astonished Tom Waits hasn't been mentioned yet!

― Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 13:31 (1 hour ago)

lol, he's the only artist i can think of who really fits the thread title for me.

Fred Durst. Wat heb ik gewonnen? (Matt P), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)

hello.

Hated: Yes, PinkFloyd (past the first two), ELP, LedZep (did get Physgraf recently, it's mmm, alright, um), Dire Straits, Queen, OK you get the gist, right?

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

yeah everyone seems to love yes

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

Nick Drake
Talking Heads
Bruce Springsteen
Tom Waits
Arcade Fire

Venga, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, Talking Heads! Never been able to fathom that lot

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

Would like to add Queen to my list as well!

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

Would like to add REM to my list kthx

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

interminable, masturbatory guitar solos?

Alex, you've never had much use for ANY guitar solos, have you?. Or the concept of instrumental soloing in general?

This isn't a challenge - I'm truly interested in yr views

I wish he hadn't adapted my critique of his "ilxor" moniker (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

well, that's my 'I dinnae like' list, the ones that get love from 'everyone'? LedZep, PinkFloyd out of that list I suppose.

But then, both have been mentioned so that precludes them from being 'loved by everyone' dunnit?

(Hmm that phrase, 'loved by everyone'. Is it from some kids TV prog?)

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

Alex, you've never had much use for ANY guitar solos, have you?. Or the concept of instrumental soloing in general?

Geordie did the occasional, right?

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

kids tv prog = gentle giant, shurely

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

rings no bells, soz not that one.

Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:54 (sixteen years ago)

led zep
radiohead
arcade fire
doors

basically hte same list as jim, above.

remy bean, Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:55 (sixteen years ago)

so far my list is

The Smiths
Bruce Springsteen
RHCP
Talking Heads
REM

^^^litany of yawnz

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)

er, replace RHCP with Rolling Stones, seeing as RHCP really aren't universally loved

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

Not a fan of Bjork either

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)

and sorry, but Bob Dylan
And this is the other side of the coin — the apologetic haters. Again, hate away! I don't give a shit.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

Panda Bear
Phoenix
David Sylvian
Echo and the Bunnymen
R. Kelly

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

There's enough Smiths/Morrissey hate out there that I'm not sure 'everyone seems to love' even applies. It's funny to me to see artists popular in my time whom all the youths 'don't get'. I'm sure it has been so since the dawn of recorded music. Most of the bands I once hated, I have learned to tolerate or at least admire one or two songs. Among the exceptions:

Kings of Leon
Talking Heads
Pearl Jam
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Mariah Carey

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

Elvis Costello

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

Most of the bands I once hated, I have learned to tolerate or at least admire one or two songs.

It's worked the other way round with Elvis Costello, he's got increasingly less easy to tolerate as his career has gone on

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

Tom Waits - especially the mumbly, clangy stuff
Talking Heads - the guy's singing hurts my teeth
Patti Smith - too much attitude, for what?...yeah I read Rimbaud when I was 21 too.
Mariah
John Lennon solo bothers me a lot too

pj, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

Ooh, Pearl Jam is a good one.

Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

Hahaha, I think Tom Waits is best when he's being mumbly and clangy.

chap, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:08 (sixteen years ago)

these days, there's very little that i hate. maybe super-compressed contemporary mainstream rock. contemporary country-pop. maybe. super-compressed cheese that only gets played in romantic comedies.

i have trouble hating on much besides those genres.

there's too much music that i've complete shunned, hated, or yawned at that i've gone back a few years later and find out that there's something totally worth loving. never know when i'm gonna be in a certain mood and that record that i hated on actually offers exactly what i'm looking for

mark cl, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:08 (sixteen years ago)

Yep, sign me up for Pearl Jam too

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

I can't really hate Elvis Costello, though, or rather for me the ultimate diss is basically indifference. I can 'hate' Bon Jovi, for example but there's probably a song I will actually react to, whereas with the bands I listed they're demonstrably popular without having ever made me feel anything besides sleepy.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

Bjork is a good one.

Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

Anyone said Primal Scream yet?

chap, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

ILM faves I can't get into:

Iggy Pop
Mariah Carey
Bjork
Battles

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

Fleetwood Mac post Peter Green.
Eagles, love the song "In the City" can't listen to anything else.
Sting
Dave Mathews
Killers

Tried to stick to bands that play styles I listen to. Could have put any of the recenthits by Beyonce, Britney, Eminem etc.
but I don't listen/hear that stuff enough to actually hate it. It's simply not part of my life.

steampig67, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

radiohead
arcade fire
sufjan stevens
bob dylan
nick drake

there are more

Zeno, Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

Geordie did the occasional, right?

You can count the proper guitar solos Geordie's ever recorded with KJ on one hand.

I do like the odd solo -- hell, I'm a Kiss fan -- but there's something about the tireless wankery that is "Freebird" that forever condemns Skynyrd in my ears. That's not to say that their other songs don't bother me, though. Hell, I just don't like'em. Sue me.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:01 (sixteen years ago)

Nick Cave, sadly, 'cos I used to like him

Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

I can't think of anything "everyone" likes, but here are five I actively hate (and have never heard anything I've liked by), who I have gotten into heated arguments about with friends. This list was difficult to come up with and required some thought.

T-Pain
Bon Jovi
New Model Army
Mariah Carey
Roni Size

mr. me too (rockapads), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

It's worked the other way round with Elvis Costello, he's got increasingly less easy to tolerate as his career has gone on

yeah oddly I can't think of too many people I used to LOVE that I now don't give a shit about. I haven't been able to finish listening to an album he's made since When I Was Cruel and even that one is rough going. I did see him live with orchestra a few years ago and it was alright but I think I'm done.

akm, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

How can you hate both Mariah Carey *AND* New Model Army? That's like hating the Wicked Witch of the West *AND* Dorothy.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:16 (sixteen years ago)

i think mark cl is really otm on this one. when people ask me about an artist that i don't like, i generally just say "i haven't gotten into them yet."
i'd add that a genre that i am having alot of trouble with is underground hip hop in the 00's. boring, overly serious raps, nostalgia, uninspired production, and a lack of hooks have really been sucking things dry in this decade for me, with only a few exceptions many of which are more inbetween underground and indie hip hop, or dirty south (i'm thinking madlib, ugk and the likes.)

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

Hate is such a strong word. Substituting "Dislike and am convinced that their fans are making a horrible mistake" my list would be:

1. Talking Heads
2. Fountains of Wayne (odd timing, since their thread just got revived)
3. Radiohead (but only up to a point)
4. U2 (ditto)
5. Tilly and the Wall seemed to represent the apex of some really awful tendencies, but it seemed kind of mean-spirited to dwell on it.

...and that's about it.

dlp9001, Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

I can't imagine Bon Jovi is a band that "everyone seems to love"...

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xEKcUm4jkbU/R2s6d8gi24I/AAAAAAAAB4U/Y-lfHi0UVKo/s400/Bon_Jovi-100000000_Bon_Jovi_Fans_Can_t_Be_Wrong-Frontal.jpg

It Could Be Worse, I Could Be in Florence and the Machine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

Ah, okay, I thought the thread was about artists "every one of your music snob friends seem to love", not best-selling acts.

Tuomas, Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:21 (sixteen years ago)

I took it as meaning any popular band, however you wanna define popular + mind-blowing iconoclasm

It Could Be Worse, I Could Be in Florence and the Machine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

i don't ~hate~, but really have very little feeling for Beck, Wilco and Radiohead, aside from a very few songs/tunes by each.
white rabbits is a newer one that friends like a lot, and i do not

outdoor_miner, Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

2: devendra banhart
3: fiery furnaces
4: ariel pink
5: futureheads
― owen reading, Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:30 PM (4 years ago)

What a difference four years makes.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 June 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

"I can't imagine Bon Jovi is a band that "everyone seems to love"..."

What in god's name are you talking about?

Bill Magill, Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/GeirH/most_overrated_albums_ever

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

And, well, a list of actual acts could be:

Captain Beefheart
Sex Pistols
Jay-Z
Stooges
The Fall

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

~could~ be, except now you are crossing into absolute crazy talk, Herr G....Capt. Beefheart overrated? not that you'd appreciate, but i know you've never sat and listened to Doc at the Radar Station, Bat Chain Puller, or Lick my decals, Baby (no, a single cursory listen does not count)

outdoor_miner, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

6. Captain Beefheart
7. The Fall
8. Missy Elliot
9. The Arcade Fire
10. The Pixies

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

(no, a single cursory listen does not count)

There is way too much great music (melodic, harmonic, catchy, singalong quality, tunes that stick) in the world for me to waste several listens on something that sounds completely like shit and contains nothing of what I always require good music to have.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

I can't say I actively HATE any of these guys but I don't care about them, never listen to them, and find the endless paeans to their brilliance deeply irritating:

1. Radiohead
2. Michael Jackson
3. 50 Cent
4. The Decembrists
5. Puffy (<<<okay I do actually hate him)

And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 June 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

funny reading my post from 4 years ago. don't mind pavement much these days (though i still think they're overrated), i have come to like (but not love) built to spill, still can't stand sebadoh or wilco.

can't believe i forgot to mention that i loathe pearl jam and sigur ros. and i share michael white's opinion of elvis costello -- i stopped giving a shit about him 20 years ago, he's like the woody allen of pop music or something (brilliant start tapering off to increasing meh-ness as he becomes that which he mocked or stood aloof from during his early days).

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 26 June 2009 00:27 (sixteen years ago)

RIP The Decemberists

the funk soul custos (country matters), Friday, 26 June 2009 00:33 (sixteen years ago)

I'm coming to the tentative but startling (to me) realization that solo Michael Jackson may be my answer to this question. (Musically, I guess I'm indifferent rather than hateful.)

Sundar, Sunday, 28 June 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

1. Michael Jackson
2. Michael Jackson
3. Michael Jackson
4. Michael Jackson
5. Michael Jackson

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 28 June 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

Michael Jackson
Jermaine Jackson
Tito Jackson
Jackie Jackson
Marlon Jackson

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 June 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

Mahalia Jackson
Randy Jackson
Alan Jackson
O'Shea Jackson
John Jackson

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 June 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Some ILX favourites:

1. LCD soundsystem
2. Daft Punk
3. The Juan MacLean
4. Taylor Swift (OK I don't hate her, but compared to how most people feel about her I kind of do)
5. Radiohead

the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Sunday, 28 March 2010 00:16 (sixteen years ago)

James Brown
Sex Pistols
Elvis Presley
Captain Beefheart
Sonic Youth

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 28 March 2010 00:51 (sixteen years ago)

elvis pressley was an albums artist?

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 28 March 2010 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

ANIMAL COLLECTIVE,JOANA NEWSOM,MANIC STREET PREACHERS,SPRINGSTEEN,THE LIBERTINES

nakamura, Sunday, 28 March 2010 01:14 (sixteen years ago)

kanye west
radiohead
the smiths
eminem & 50 cent
lady gaga

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 28 March 2010 03:59 (sixteen years ago)

Muse
MIA
Slater Kenny
The Knife
The Ramones

Sab, Sunday, 28 March 2010 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

the clash
beach boys
kaleidoscope (UK; love the US kaleidoscope.)
T. Rex (only song i like iirc is "cosmic dancer.")
screamers

less controversial hate:
talking heads, smiths/morrisey, cold cave, animal collective, white stripes, lots of assorted other popular indie rock.

ian, Sunday, 28 March 2010 04:29 (sixteen years ago)

jane's addiction
steely dan
fiery furnaces
dave matthews
captain + tennille

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

ian, you are gonna end up liking the beach boys. it's inevitable. give it time...

scott seward, Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:18 (sixteen years ago)

1.) Death Cab for Cutie
2.) Postal Service

* Ben Gibbard is my mortal enemy and I hope he burns in the fiery pits of hell for merely existing, but additionally having to pollute my aural environment*

3.) The xx and anything that came out last year... you're all boring.
4.) Arctic Monkeys
5.) She & Him- Yes, I get it, you're adorable. But you ruined my favorite character [Trillian] in HHGTTG, and M. Ward does not give you bonus credit because he is pretentious and boring as well... but doesn't have the adorable-factor to excuse him.

Actually, I am quite dismayed that I could make this list much longer.

drainCosmetics, Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

yeah xx what the hell? don't think i hate them though

give me a break Crunchie (tremendoid), Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

The xx and anything that came out last year... you're all boring.

And ugly.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 28 March 2010 12:33 (sixteen years ago)

how the hell could anyone hate sleater-kinney? thats like hating kittens.

he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

Am I the only one that loves Radiohead and Springsteen? Never thought that would be a minority opinion, lol.

musicfanatic, Sunday, 28 March 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

this thread is boring and stupid

thomp, Sunday, 28 March 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

There are definitely ILM canon bands I'm in the minority regarding. Chief among which is LCD Soundsystem. But hey KIP and all that so w/e, judgement has been cast

You are feisty, sexy, impatient, and impossible to bed, like Christ (acoleuthic), Sunday, 28 March 2010 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

Top 5 musicians everyone seems to love but I hate (rapist and child molester edition):

Michael Jackson
R. Kelly
Isaac Brock/Modest Mouse

Open to suggestions for the remaining two spots...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 28 March 2010 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

70s-era prog in general. I've tried so many times..

A capella key change in "Hold On" by Wilson Phillips (Pillbox), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not sure that everyone loves 70s prog now. Popular around here (at least Yes, VDGG & some others) to an extent but I still hear a lot of blanket dismissals IRL.

President Keyes, Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

captain + tennille

lol

the mighty the mighty BOHANNON (m coleman), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

this thread is boring and stupid

my taste is so unique & independent! im such an iconoclast!

alt-3, gold & silver (Lamp), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:18 (sixteen years ago)

xxp - Exceptions noted in cases of prog/kraut or prog/space overlap. It is mainly the muso-baroque end of it that I can't get past. Early Genesis, for example, I have tried repeatedly to get into but it is just not happening.

A capella key change in "Hold On" by Wilson Phillips (Pillbox), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

I find it really hard to answer questions like this these days, I've come around to most canonical favourites to some degree. However if I take 'everyone' to mean 'loads of people I know whose tastes I respect' then it'd be someone like, I dunno, Florence & The Machine.

Gavin in Leeds, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

Some ILX favourites:

1. LCD soundsystem
2. Daft Punk
3. The Juan MacLean
4. Taylor Swift (OK I don't hate her, but compared to how most people feel about her I kind of do)
5. Radiohead

― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), 28. maaliskuuta 2010 2:16 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This kinda could be my list, except that I don't know who Juan McLean is, and I like some Daft Punk tunes, but I never understoof why they're considered the best dance act ever or something.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

I can list just one and get myself SB'ed, probably: Depeche Mode.

Obama, Wellstone and Darwinfish, Attorneys (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

Not trolling, either. Never got them, never much wanted to get them. Could almost sorta tolerate "I Feel You" (rockist!) but have absolutely no use for any of their work otherwise.

Obama, Wellstone and Darwinfish, Attorneys (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 28 March 2010 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

I can understand not liking DM... sorta.

But what's there to "get" anyway? They are a pretty straightforward sort of band...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 29 March 2010 01:03 (sixteen years ago)


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