the pure essence of an album

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The rules are we take an album track listing, and we remove one track, giving a reason why it is the worst track of the selection. Then we post the track listing again with that track removed, and the next poster whittles it down by one further track. The person who eventually whittles it down to a single track - ie the pure ILM essence of the album - posts the next album track listing, and the process begins again.

The Results So Far:

Joy Division - Closer: "Decades"
ABBA - Arrival: "Arrival"
Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets: "Needle In The Camel's Eye"
The Police - Synchronicity: UNFINISHED
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive: UNFINISHED
Talking Heads - Remain In Light: "Once In A Lifetime"
The Beatles - The Beatles: "I'm So Tired"
Blondie - Parallel Lines: "Picture This"
Michael Jackson - Thriller: "Billie Jean"
Guns'n'Roses - Appetite For Destruction: "It's So Easy"
Robyn - Robyn: "Handle Me"

OK, so I start with that old ILM favourite 'Closer':

1 Atrocity Exhibition
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5 Means to an End
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

Very tricky. Not a bad song on this album, not even close. But if I have to remove a track it's going to be Means To An End, which has a sort of plodding feel to it that sometimes bores me. So:

1 Atrocity Exhibition
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

young, gifted and slack, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

I'll eliminate Atrocity Exhibition. Great, and yet a touch too long for an opening track methinks. I sometimes find myself skipping it. (also, the pure essence of this album is obviously Decades)

1
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

Franck R., Friday, 23 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I'll eliminate Colony, which has always been my least favorite track and has something unsuccessfully thrashy about it.

1
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

mrjosh (mrjosh), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

This is madness...but I'll play along. I'll take out Isolation. Just doesn't seem right for this album. It was a toss up between this and Heart and Soul which seems like it would fit perfectly on 'Movement.'

1
2
3 Passover
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Of the tracks that remain, I guess Passover is the weakest. It's got that horribly world-weary feel of the rest of the album, but it doesn't have the urgency of Heart & Soul or 24 Hours, and I don't find it as rythmically compelling.

1
2
3
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

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jz, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

this sounds fun, but I dont know this album :(

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

'isolation' is my fave track on this album :(

N_RQ, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Album killing bastards!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

There's some clichéd imagery on 24 Hours: destiny unfolding, clouds marking every move etc. I'd say it's the weakest here. Heart & Soul is sort of a similar song but much better.

1
2
3
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7
8 Eternal
9 Decades

TRW, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe heart and soul lingered this long

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8 Eternal
9 Decades

bb (bbrz), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

(maybe we should Double Nickles on the Dime next, so more people can play...)

bb (bbrz), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

if anyone touches "the roar of the masses" i'm going to kill them

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

agggh - somebody who loves joy division please fucking axe one of these joy division songs!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 Decades

I haven't listened to this record for years but I can remember "Decades", and let's face it, the here are the young men bits are iconic.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah i mean i love joy division but shit, colony is one of my fave songs on this album specificially because of its thrashiness - there was a lot more metal in jd's sound than people give them credit for. and yeah, decades is probably the most inherently closer-esque song here

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

shit, damn server overload turned back this poxy fule. SHIT! i would have kept The Eternal so i could wallow in my own filthy self-pity.

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Why did we get rid of "Twenty-Four Hours?" I suppose in a toss-up between Decades and the Eternal I'd have to axe Decades because it represents a specific part of the album (that is, the end). I know that sounds dumb, but there's more to Closer than despair--right?--and it seems like Decades is a relentlessly despairing song, not capturing the "Essence of Closer" as well as the Eternal (or Twenty Four Hours, you bastards).

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

hey tom - post a new album!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

or else ill do it!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Sides 1 and 2 are so radically different I can't see how "Decades" can embody the whole album.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh OK, I didn't read that bit.

ABBA - Arrival

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3 My Love, My Life (3:51)
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6 Money, Money, Money (3:06)
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

(Fernando is on the remastered version and was on the Australian pressing of the original too, also, it's good.)

I will remove My Love, My Life - big ballads are deffo part of the ABBA magic but this isn't a great one and I don't think the balladry is what Arrival will be remembered for.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6 Money, Money, Money (3:06)
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

"money money money" pisses me off sometimes.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

"Fernando"'s a bit arse, really.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

can we just say Dancing Queen wins and move to an interesting album?

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

youre just mad because we didnt immediately do new order after joy division!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I can think of two on there that could conceivably beat "Dancing Queen".

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

This is a classic album! One of my all time favourites. If you haven't listened to it you should, biz. I don't think DQ is necessarily its "essence" either but I've had my say.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

oh snap. too true petesmith and you don't even know me!

xpost. they may beat Dancing Queen but we all know that's the very essense of ABBA. did you see the 30years of ABBA documentary where they were discussing Dancing Queen?

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Fuck Muriel's and every other wedding.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

(i may not know you, but i know how to effectively/creepily use the search function)

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

yes! fuck weddings! its the sentiment of the year!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

(i may not know you, but i know how to effectively/creepily use the search function)
-- petesmith (plsmit...), September 23rd, 2005


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Knowing Me, Knowing You...AH HA!

simple pleasures!

ok, here's my pick:

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Goodbye Dum Dum Diddle!

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

ILM stopped for a minute there. Like Dancing Queen being scratched off the wedding turntable and replaced by something from side two of The Visitors.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

It's not a bad song, Dum Dum Diddle, but the obvious lyric-crisis holes it a bit.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I hope there's an album I know soon (this is unlikely actually)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

i hope the essential song is knowing me knowing you.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

you cant just sit there and wish, carly! take aim!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

hmm. this feels like a sport or game!
i'm taking out Why Did It Have to Be Me because i imagine singling it out for removal and hearing it go, "but carly, why did it have to be me?"

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

hurry to the next album people (i can't give a hand on this one as i don't know it enough).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Knowing Me, Knowing You is just too long.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

oh man. i can't say i'm not disappointed. this day of work has been something of a waste.

i hope three more people come along to help us figure this out, so we can move on to a new album.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

just because "Tiger" always creeped me out a little as a kid.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

jonviachicago, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I have always hated When I Kissed The Teacher - Now can someone take That's Me please?


1
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Arrival is better.
1
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3. Baby's On Fire
4. Cindy Tell Me
5. Driving Me Backwards
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

This may be a tad bit controversial, but "Baby's On Fire"always struck me as sort of meandering.. and considering how awesome the rest of the album is it's pretty easily the worst;

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5. Driving Me Backwards
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Baby's On Fire? Come on!

Anyway, Driving Me Backwards is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I hit the skip button every time Some of Them Are Old comes on.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i could take any of them way, they're all so awesome.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

they're all good songs, but "Blank Frank" doesn't quite reach greatness.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I am grieving the loss of "Backwards" ... once tedious, over the years it grew on me and now I think it's mental as anything.

"Faraway Beach" however, belongs on "Another Green World" so it gets the axe here.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6.
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

...also, I'd actually rather give reasons for keeping the other trax. Would make for a more postive thread, eh? and point to 'essence'

needles - makes me bob my head uncontrollably like wayne and garth. covered finely by volcano suns, which has same effect

paw paw - the long break, the phased guitar, the completely different sonic flavor of 'send for an ambulance..." verse

cindy - couldn't part with the buzzsaw guitar solo intro

dead finks - oh cheeky cheeky - oh perfect masters - need I say more?

here come the warm jets - because it's so much more than it seems. drums falling out of sync. guitar/synth combo sounding both balls-out hard and kind of background at the same time. the idea of ending an album with a song that doesn't resolve a friggin thing.

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

...and wouldn't you know it I glide away from the computer and catch myself singing ... "on some faraway beach"

damn, tough assignment. fun thread, tho'

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

the idea of ending an album with a song that doesn't resolve a friggin thing.

wow, i must hear this song very differently from you; it seems like such an album closer to me!

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Really? It feels to me like I've dropped in for a portion of an infinite loop that has been going on without me, and will continue long after the record is over. Part of that is the really slow fade-in / out... anyhow, still find it brilliant.

Should there be a time limit? After X-hours if an album has not been further reduced by any takers it shall be considered boiled-down?

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm just going to go ahead and play the race card here.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2.
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6.
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

(This is going to pretty much come down to 1 v. 10 unless some extremely obsessive Eno fan comes along, methinks.)

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

It feels to me like I've dropped in for a portion of an infinite loop that has been going on without me, and will continue long after the record is over.

heh, I actually think of it the same way, but that's actually the reason why it feels like such an album-closing song to me. I mean, it seems strange to me that a song that feels like it will continue long after the record is over would be anything but the last track!

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I can totally see your point. I can't imagine it fitting in any other slot on the album.

What I meant, I think, is it is such the antithesis of the Big Rock Ending, the big final chord or cutoff. The anti-Day-In-The-Life ending.

It's the ending that refuses to end.

Okay after that much discussion if this doesn't boil down to title track = essence I'll be sad.

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10.

The title track isn't THAT good, to stay here last.

zeus, Friday, 23 September 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I confess I've been secretly pulling for "Dead Finks" all along. Now I've no doubt jinxed that too.

C'mon someone be spiteful ... or is it just a ploy?

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

How could Knowing Me Knowing You not outlast the others???
Oddly enough, it is Eno's favorite Abba track. He once so himself.

baht habit, Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

This is easy, for me.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thinking of a new album...

I think I may need a bathroom break? (wetmink2), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

although now it's the weekend this may go pretty slow...

I think I may need a bathroom break? (wetmink2), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

everyone must know this one.

1 Synchronicity I
2 Walking in Your Footsteps
3 O My God
4 Mother
5 Miss Gradenko
6 Synchronicity II
7 Every Breath You Take
8 King of Pain
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11 Murder by Numbers

It's easiest to ax "King of Pain" (considering that I get perverse pleasure from "Mother" and don't want to be the one to pull it), it's depressing and a little plodding.

1 Synchronicity I
2 Walking in Your Footsteps
3 O My God
4 Mother
5 Miss Gradenko
6 Synchronicity II
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11 Murder by Numbers

I think I may need a bathroom break? (wetmink2), Saturday, 24 September 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Sting's worst anti-nuclear song ever is "Walking in Your Footsteps", and they even made the mistake of playing it on tour

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4 Mother
5 Miss Gradenko
6 Synchronicity II
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11 Murder by Numbers

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

For the riduclous video...

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4 Mother
5 Miss Gradenko
6
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11 Murder by Numbers

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

does anyone actually remember this one? didn't think so

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4 Mother
5 Miss Gradenko
6
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Mother and Miss Gradenko both grate on me, and always have.

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4
5 Miss Gradenko
6
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9 Wrapped Around Your Finger
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

I hope track #1 is the winner.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4
5 Miss Gradenko
6
7 Every Breath You Take
8
9
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

'Wrapped Around Your Finger' is just a boring Sting solo track. OUT!

zeus, Saturday, 24 September 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

Man, Murder By Numbers is the only one I remember well!

1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4
5 Miss Gradenko
6
7
8
9
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

I never liked the stalker love song though.

js (honestengine), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

wow, you guys really butchered that one.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)


No way No how should a lame Copeland track outlast anything written by Sting. You guys are so damn punk. heh heh
1 Synchronicity I
2
3 O My God
4
5
6
7
8
9
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

baht habit, Saturday, 24 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

1 Synchronicity I
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10 Tea in the Sahara
11

MeganD, Saturday, 24 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

let's get esoteric....

Secrets Of The Beehive - David Sylvian

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3. Maria
4. Orpheus
5. The Devil's Own
6. When Poets Dreamed Of Angels
7. Mother And Child
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10. Promise (The Cult Of Eurydice)

First, let's cut out the tune that never fit amongst the others. "Ride" should have held that spot, but alas...darn record company demands...

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5. The Devil's Own
6. When Poets Dreamed Of Angels
7. Mother And Child
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10. Promise (The Cult Of Eurydice)

Brian Gilbert, Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

But wait! Which one did you cut from Synchronicity? I need to know what the pure essence is!

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

i never knew that about "maria". weird. can't imagine that album without it (haha).

tricky (disco stu), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

because it's an extra track that wasn't on the original release (and i've never heard it)

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5. The Devil's Own
6. When Poets Dreamed Of Angels
7. Mother And Child
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

"mother and child" goes because it's just a bit too precious and plodding.

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5. The Devil's Own
6. When Poets Dreamed Of Angels
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

tricky (disco stu), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

my copy of secrets has "forbidden colours" as the last track which i suspect is more anomalous than "promise".

tricky (disco stu), Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

the pure essence of Synchronicity is obviously Every Breath You Take, but some smart ass decided to ignore it's ESSENCE. Mandrake, let me explain to you a little about a man's essence....

now on to Secrets:

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6. When Poets Dreamed Of Angels
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

baht habit, Saturday, 24 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Okay, no one seems interested in distilling 'secrets' any further, but I enjoyed 'warm jets' too much to let this thread die.

Unless anyone objects, I'm reviving here:

1. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
2. Crosseyed And Painless
3. The Great Curve
4. Once In A Lifetime
5. House In Motion
6. Seen And Not Seen
7. Listening Wind
8. The Overload

While I'm tempted to remove the last track since it's the only one you can't somehow dance to, it's way more interesting than #7, which is catchy and sweet but never seemed worthy of the rest of the album. so...

1. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
2. Crosseyed And Painless
3. The Great Curve
4. Once In A Lifetime
5. House In Motion
6. Seen And Not Seen
7.
8. The Overload

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Sunday, 25 September 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

I always think of this album as divided between the first 5 tracks and the final 3. And I really like both "halves" so I hate to decimate the second part by leaving only one track left. But in the end we'll only have one track left from the whole album anyway, and "Seen And Not Seen" is the weakest, I think.

1. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
2. Crosseyed And Painless
3. The Great Curve
4. Once In A Lifetime
5. Houses In Motion
6.
7.
8. The Overload

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

Well, the second part's already been mostly decimated, so there's nothing left to protect "The Overload" from the merciless nature of this exercise.

1. Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)
2. Crosseyed And Painless
3. The Great Curve
4. Once In A Lifetime
5. Houses In Motion
6.
7.
8.

Ross Godfrey (scatter), Monday, 26 September 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

I always thought that "Crosseyed" was sort of an annoying buffer between "Born Under Punches" and "The Great Curve," not being as menacing and moody as the former and not as awesomely polyrhythmic as the latter. So, I'm going to say, "Don't need it."

1. Born Under Punches
2.
3. The Great Curve
4. Once in a Lifetime
5. Houses in Motion
6.
7.
8.

And also, how on Earth did "Once in a Lifetime" survive this long?

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Monday, 26 September 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

"Seen and Not Seen" and "Crosseyed and Painless" are my two favorite songs on the album! bah!

Anyway, of the ones left, my least favorite is also the busiest. hence:

1. Born Under Punches
2.
3.
4. Once in a Lifetime
5. Houses in Motion
6.
7.
8.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

I love how none of these albums get finished - and to think I felt guilty for the ABBA one!

Anyway, "Houses In Motion" is great and all but by the time you get to it "Remain In Light" has given up most of its secrets.

1. Born Under Punches
2.
3.
4. Once in a Lifetime
5.
6.
7.
8.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

It's an easy task. I find this album terribly overrated, though who would question the sheer brilliance of Once In A Lifetime?

1.
2.
3.
4. Once in a Lifetime
5.
6.
7.
8.

zeus, Monday, 26 September 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

Let's do a really long one, then, shall we? The Beatles, a.k.a. the White Album:

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15. Why Don't We Do It in the Road?
16. I Will
17. Julia
18. Birthday
19. Yer Blues
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24. Long, Long, Long
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

What's that you said? What? WHAT?

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15. Why Don't We Do It in the Road?
16. I Will
17. Julia
18. Birthday
19. Yer Blues
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

There are a lot of annoying songs on this album. I don't think I could ever listen to Obladi Oblada with any pleasure.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15. Why Don't We Do It in the Road?
16. I Will
17. Julia
18. Birthday
19. Yer Blues
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

never saw the point of this track.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17. Julia
18. Birthday
19. Yer Blues
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Can I request that people say which song they're deleting rather than have people cross-check back and forth between posts? Ta.

I am going to get rid of "Yer Blues", I think it's ghastly emo nonsense, even if it's tongue is slightly in its cheek.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17. Julia
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

removed: Julia
1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

ihope (ihope), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

julia ? wow... things are getting serious...
oh, are we allowed to participate several times or just one per person ?

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22. Sexy Sadie
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

"Sexy Sadie" always annoyed me, I think it's a second-rate "Girl"

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9. Martha My Dear
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

Martha My Dear

Right, so if the next dude wants to do "Goodnight", then the album is perfect.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13. Rocky Raccoon
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I kind of think it should be once only, but if we're allowed two bites for a double album then I'm happy to take aim again.

I guess reasons would be too much to ask for from the inveterate list-heads of ILM, right?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

The original double-album-that-should-have-been-a-single-album. There are still half a dozen crappy songs here (although Julia shouldn't have been removed, at least not this early on). I'm eliminating Rocky Racoon. The Beatles were at their weakest with their supposedly funny pastiches of older styles (see When I'm 64 etc.).

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11. Blackbird
12. Piggies
13.
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

ygf, Monday, 26 September 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

rocky racoon over honey pie ? (and how come wild honey pie is still in here !?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

HUNNEH PAAAAAH!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

i guess it must have been a drugged studio jam...but why keep it on the album !!

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12. Piggies
13.
14. Don't Pass Me By
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Blackbird can go, Mother Nature's Son can stay. For now.

Deluxe (Damian), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

It's funny! Funnier than Rocky Raccoon anyway. Not as funny as Good Night tho (not as sweet either).

xpost awww I was hopinf Blackbird would make it through to the last few.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

I have heard no albums ever!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

"Don't Pass Me By" - it's lucky Ringo happened to be one of the Beatles

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12. Piggies
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23. Helter Skelter
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to use my second cos-it's-a-double-album pick to get rid of "Helter Skelter", because i) I don't like it, and ii) it annoys me when people use it as a way of demonstrating the Beatles' (or McCartney's) versatility when it sounds so obviously strained.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12. Piggies
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

"blackbird" and "julia" gone before "don't pass me by" and "wild honey pie" (just to name these weak ones...) !!?? wtf !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

huh ? so we establish that we're allowed two shots for double albums ?
i'm gonna keep mine for an emergency shoot...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

I can't stand Honey Pie. What is the point?

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12. Piggies
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Maybe there should be a "Beatles pastiches - C/D" thread, I love them! (Though I suppose Lennon's blues dirges are pastiches of a sort too).

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

It's almost honed down to a decent album now. If I'm allowed a second shot on double album grounds, I'm killing Piggies - sub-Animal Farm silliness.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Also, the essence of this album is clearly 'Happiness Is A Warm Gun'.

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Back in the U.S.S.R has to die. i'm surprised it wasnt the first, even before honey pie. gahd. also, I will is the essence.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

sorry guys...

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18. Birthday
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30. Good Night

carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

OK, knock out Wild Honey Pie, Bungalow Bill and While My Guitar (too overwrought) and you've got the Beatles' best-ever album.

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

There's at least one more song lingering I think is pretty much atrocious.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

never understood why Savoy Truffle isn't more hated

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

In fact there's only four songs there I really like! This thread has really demonstrated to me that the goofy stuff is the only reason I enjoy the white album, pretty much.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Goodbye, Birthday

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30. Good Night

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

get rid of "mother nature's son"
i think mccartney's down to one

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30. Good Night

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

How could Wild Honey Pie outlast Sexy Sadie? That's insanity.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5.
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30. Good Night

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

this album is getting so good.

carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Adios, "Savoy Truffle," you're too meta for your own good. (Or, rather, you don't justify your meta with a good melody/interesting arrangement.)

"I Will," you survive this round, but if I had my druthers...

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5.
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30. Good Night

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

"Savoy Truffle", "Glass Onion" and "Rocky Raccoon" are all in their own ways great candidates for the ESSENCE of this album, viz. hugely talented songwriters rapidly disappearing up their own arses.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, did I confuse "Savoy Truffle" with "Glass Onion"? Uh oh. At any rate, it's not a very good song, and I do still like this album a lot, so I think its essence would be a good song. I'd be with you on "Rocky Racoon" although I kinda hope it ends up being "Good Night."

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

You will not get your wish. The song always kinda bugged me.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
4.
5.
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

Ross Godfrey (scatter), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

i wonder why bungalow bill and monkey are still here... i don't really like the album in the state it is now...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I always hated the CHUGGING on Glass Onion.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

"Monkey" is great! It's about the only one of the album's 'freakout' tracks which is any fun.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

well, it's fun but i don't consider it an "essential" track of the album. more like one of the ok ones considering the white album concept. but i have to say i dislike "bungalow" much more !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

shit. i was hoping glass onion would be one of the last three.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

peace BB

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I cut "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" -- it's a fine and clearly classic song, but speaks to me much more of the aesthetic/vision of a single Beatle, in opposition to the band's essence. Some of the other remaining solo tracks have more of the whimsy and yes kindness that typifies The Beatles (for me).

1.
2. Dear Prudence
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4.
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8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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10. I'm So Tired
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16. I Will
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21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
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25. Revolution 1
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27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

im surprised glass onion didnt last longer. its chugging is surely pretty good.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

It's such fan-baiting wank though!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
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18.
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20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25. Revolution 1
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.
Thank God BB is gone. I took out the schmaltzy crap from Harrison (possibly ruined for me by my high school principal's off-key rendition).

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Ha! We wacked the same song. Clearly a sign of critical genius!

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

If "Revolution 9" can't win, I'll be buggered if I'm letting "Rev 1" do it.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
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18.
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20.
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Great song but not essence of the album : “Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey”
BLAM!

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28. Cry Baby Cry
29.
30.

Some Guy, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

hum...we're getting to a pretty tight EP... but one seems a bit out of place amongst the "essential" (plus there are too many lennon trax left)...and I still have my second shot so... now you can cry...

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. I Will
17.
18.
19.
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25.
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27.
28.
29.
30.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

This is a baggy album with a fair amount of self-indulgent experimentalism. That makes it in essence more of a John album than a Paul album. Ipso facto, I Will goes.

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
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16.
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28.
29.
30.

slavoj Zizek, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

ok - WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONE IS GOING TO WIN

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but i almost want to post with the really essential track removed, just to see what people do. it's the same feeling i have that i might just throw my glasses off a bridge. it'd be crazy, to my detriment, and irrational. but i kinda want to.

carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't even think it's a good track, I think it's laboured and overwrought, but it does probably sum the record up. Anyway I've had my two votes.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

funny i just counted there are more lennon trax than macca's on the album. always thought it was the other way round as lennon was not in a very "productive" period whereas macca was on fire.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

of the ones left (and maybe in overall), i much prefer dear prudence to happiness... (just in case we can make the odds wrong !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

whatever - its a great song; it is laboured and overwrought, but it also rules in 35 different ways. and the breeders cover rules.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I've got a vote left, so let's make this clear-cut:

1.
2. Dear Prudence
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. I'm So Tired
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
30.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, "Dear Prudence" is loads better.

But the enjoyable thing about this thread is that we have to wait for someone else to come along and decide.

xpost Hurrah!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Aaarg! Mother Superior has jumped the gun!

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

boring contrarians jumped the shark!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

yay ! so dear prudence wins ! thinking about it, i wouldn't have thought tired would have made it so far... it's great but still...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Nothing contrarian about it! It's ambitious and interesting but simply not that good a song. But I'm more of a Macca fan anyway by this point.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

nothing contrarian : prudence is much better than happiness... siouxsie covered it !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

ah. sorry tom !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

so won't anybody shoot tired down ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I've got my second vote, and I'm going to use it.

Eliminate Dear Prudence.

I'm So Tired wins.

Everybody should know this one, so it should go fast...

Blondie: Parallel Lines

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2. One Way Or Another
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6. I Know but I Don’t Know
7. 11:59
8. Will Anything Happen
9. Sunday Girl
10. Heart of Glass
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12. Just Go Away

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

wha-what !?
tsss... not fair...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm finding these threads weirdly addictive.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Now that's contrarian bullshit!

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Next.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

ooh - good choice!

"will anything happen" bothers me a little, and feels, in general, like one of the less-essential traxxx.

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2. One Way Or Another
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6. I Know but I Don’t Know
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10. Heart of Glass
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12. Just Go Away

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it was a great idea ygs !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

i kinda like the huge power left in the hands of the random person who has to choose between the last ones... it's a huge responsibility !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

It's a responsibility I didn't take lightly. It was just a shit or get off the pot situation. White album all morning, time to move on.

With that said...

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2. One Way Or Another
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10. Heart of Glass
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12. Just Go Away

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

it's difficult to even start this one. i remove track 6 just because it's my least favourite track on the record.

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2. One Way Or Another
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10. Heart of Glass
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

sorry by the time i came to post that 2 tracks had already been removed. the 2 i would have chosen. i removed 12 just because i like it least out of what was left.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I've heard "One Way Or Another" done by too many Blondie cover-bands. It sounds too much like pre-disco Blondie anyway.

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2.
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10. Heart of Glass
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

ok, one way or another, sooner or later... breaks my Heart but it's too disco queen to be the essence of the album...

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2.
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10.
11. I’m Gonna Love You Too
12.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

"I'm Gonna Love You Too" is cute, but not even near the caliber of the rest of the album.

1. Hanging On The Telephone
2.
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10.
11.
12.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

:( @ heart of glass.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

i know... hurts... but it feels more like a single added to the album than the essential core of it...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

have you heard the demo of it on the reissue? sounded more like classic Blondie takin' the piss

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't own the album, and with Heart of Glass gone it suddenly looks less like "God, why don't I own this?" and more "Pfft, Blondie, got the best of."

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

"i know... hurts... but it feels more like a single added to the album than the essential core of it... "

That's why I chose I'm So Tired over Dear Prudence. Prudence is too pretty, and not nearly weird enough to be the essence of such a strange and schizophrenic record. Happiness is a Warm Gun is probably the most representative, but it got shot down early.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

3rd from last is not early!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

x post 1: yeah i think i've heard the demo. don't remember very well though...
x post 2: well, with heart of glass on it looks more like a best of !
x post 3 : i see what you mean but i think prudence IS creepy !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Tom the remaining songs are so awesome! I don't wanna out my preference for the #1 spot but of the five that remain any of them stand next to "Heart of Glass" as far as I'm concerned

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

If we're going for the essence, then we're going to have to ditch the cover version. So long, Hanging On The Telephone...

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5. Pretty Baby
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10.
11.
12.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

i like all the ones remaining, but i was totally jockeying for "heart of glass", too. it feels like the meat of the album, and even if none of the other tracks have that much disco in them, it all seems to me to be funneling into "heart of glass."

btw, do you think "heart of glass" is in the same league as "i feel love?" im unsure; IFL is better, im sure, but HOG is really sublime, if not as exciting.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Next step is easy :

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4. Fade Away and Radiate
5.
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10.
11.
12.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4.
5.
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9. Sunday Girl
10.
11.
12.


"Fade Away and Radiate" is probably the only song on the album that gets worse with repeated listens.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Noooooo!

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

ok - WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONE IS GOING TO WIN

j/k!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Also finding this addictive.

I have a much stronger feeling about which one should stay than which one should go, but hell, let's just go ahead and knock out Sunday Girl.

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4.
5.
6.
7. 11:59
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm unclear on the rules - does each individual just get one pass? Cause if not I'm killing "picture this" right now, no way it beats "11:59," whose final verse is for me the essence not only of "Parallel Lines" but of pop music itself

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

One go per album, two for a double album. (NB this 'rule' was suggested by me but seems fair, means doubles don't take forever and means people can't flood an album into submission).

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

ok then...I anxiously await some ballad-lover harshing my mellow my striking "11:59"

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I've treated it as as "one per album" tacit rule ... went to bed at 2 a.m. and awoke to this thread on fire. Glad I wasn't the only one finding it "weirdly addictive" ... and it's not the brutality, but rather learning which of my favorites others can't stand, and vice versa.

I'm gonna let someone else cut the blonde's hair.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

thats a good fair rule, tom!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe my two favorites actually made it to the end.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll bite ... there would be something improper about "Heart of Glass" getting turfed early and its b-side lasting until the very end ... plus, only the last 20 seconds before the coda of "11:59" are truly essential.

1.
2.
3. Picture This
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

"Picture This" = girl-group heaven = the essence of Blondie

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Haha Noodle Vague's prophecy comes true.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I liked that last one, so let's try this:

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
9. The Lady In My Life

Plus, only 9 tracks.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Isn't it mindinrewind's choice? ;)

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
9.

Anyway I have removed the only one I can't instantly call to mind, which seems like a good way to proceed. I doubt "The Girl Is Mine" will last long but I think it's kind of endearing.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I'll take a rain check on my choice ... "Thriller" is a great pick regardless (although I'm fairly certain what will win).

This album sorta peters out after track six, doesn't it?

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3. The Girl Is Mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

it's not as bad as "Ebony and Ivory"

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Baby Be Mine
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Ha, sorry about that, glad it all worked out though. As my current handle suggests, I am stuck at home and thus jumped the gun.

I was both genuinely curious to see what would win (I do think there's a good case to be made for at least half of the tracks here) and interested to see if the trend of someone killing the obvious choice early would continue.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I can all of these from memory, except for one.
Non-hummability = non-essence = bye bye Baby Be Mine!

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2.
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

wanna be endin' something!
and with that, im almost guaranteed to be satisfied with this one!

1.
2.
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8.
9.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Human Nature is nice, but not that nice...

1.
2.
3.
4. Thriller
5. Beat It
6. Billie Jean
7.
8.
9.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I think I have to kill "Beat It"... Michael trying to sound tough doesn't really do it for me...

1.
2.
3.
4. Thriller
5.
6. Billie Jean
7.
8.
9.

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Come on, it's Billie Jean.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Billie Jean
7.
8.
9.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

what else could it be?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Let's try this:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

woo hoo! the only one i was gonna be even a little disappointed about was "thriller."

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

other than "wanna be startin somethin" which is immense.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

It's possible I'm just doing this because I never make it that far in the album, but I'll cut "Rocket Queen."

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12.

Oh, and honestly, I think "Billie Jean" is a better single, but as essence, it's "Wanna Be Startin Something" all the way. Not JUST because of the latin-beat breakdown, but that helps.

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

"Picture This" = girl-group heaven = the essence of Blondie

But not the essence of parallel lines at all! argh!!11!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Anything Goes has got to go. Not very memorable.

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Similarly, I can't imagine anyone putting on this album and thinking "Oooh, let's skip immediately to "Think About You""

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I think in the case of "Appetite" the obvious choices are also clearly the right ones and we could probably eliminate all pretenders right now, but then again, I've always thought of that album as fat with filler

but let's get rid of one of their more half-asses anthems right now:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

haha "half-asses"

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

update:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

right sorry I was caught in a hail of xposts!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

cutting "my michelle," kind of a lightweight compared to some of the others...

update:
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

daveheaton, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

man, the only one i dont love of the remaining is "welcome to the jungle," but i cant bring myself to deny that song's position as pure essence.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

fine - if no one is going to get excited, ill just use my pick to go ahead and make people angry.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I think the essence may have fled, but I didn't like "Mr Brownstone" when I didn't like this album, and I don't like it much now I do. The sing-song chorus annoys me.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

if "out ta get me" wins it means the antichrist just got born

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

No worries, that song blows.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

The King of Flop Threads, Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

no, I'm not crazy at all.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10.
11.
12.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

IT'S A PHOTO FINISH

not

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

its a SLOW-TO finish!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)


OK, the essence of this album is one of the harder tracks. "Sweet Child O' Mine" may be one of their best known singles, but it's not representative - and though it's not bad, it's overrated.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

ahh, neither of the remaining tracks are representative of the album - Sweet Child, I'd argue, was

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

(I already voted, but: "It's So Easy" at least has the virtue of compressing all of Axl & Slash's starry-eyed NY Dolls worship into a single track, while "Nightrain" is just a piece of shit)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Jungle is obviously the essence of this record, but rules are rules. Somebody hurry up and finish this one off.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Whatever...

1.
2. It's So Easy
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.

Lets do Robyn

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3. Robotboy
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Robotboy bugs me, na na na na na na

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Laney, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

this game is great... (i even check it from home...).
the results are surprising.
i think we should make a "ILM essence" compilation of all the essential tracks voted at some point... and make a thread about it (of course, all the people who haven't participate would disagree, there would be names, there would be violence, people would call other people rockist, racist, homophobe, nazis... wouldn't it be nice ?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Eclipse is totally the most disposable track

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Fuck. Only one I know on this is Konichiwa Bitches. Which may be the essense, though I don't know... (And I'm still smarting that 11:59 lost out...)

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

this game is great...

until it's an album you've never heard of...

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

...or an album you don't give a sh*t about (there have been a couple. I have sat those rounds out.)

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Maybe there could be two albums on the go at once.

(I mean, actually, there are! Nobody ever decided the last two on the Police one, and also everybody agreed to ignore David Sylvian - so there may even be three!)

I think finding the essence of Robyn is a noble and worthwhile cause but frankly it's going to take a while especially as most of the people who like her are sleeping in Europe right now.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

"the pure essence of an album"

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

"Should Have Known" is also on Robyn's 2002 album so it IS NOT ESSENCE AND SUCH GOES, even if it's not the same recording. (I have come to appreciate "Konichiwa Bitches" now as a kind of insane halfway point between Moloko's "Fun For Me" and Missy Elliott's "Work It" but "Crash And Burn Girl" is still the buried gem on this "record").

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

the others are a lot better

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

"...while the vinyl is spread out against the sky like a patient etherized upon a table."

Tom, I agree Robyn is a worthy cause, and when those people wake up I'll return to find we're on something entirely different. That's the beauty of it too.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Can we do a Puressence album next?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

Konichiwa bitches is fun, but this is really NOT the essence of this album...

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

Arnault (arc73hk), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

"Think About You" totally is one of my favourite tracks from Appetite! As if "It's So Easy" came out as the winner!

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

At the end of the album I always wish it was the beginning again.

(OMG, these remaining songs are all so good; christ this is a great record.)

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

One of those records where the big single doesn't capture the odd essence - and besides, "Be Mine!" doesn't do it for me like it seems to for some of you.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

hum... it's not moved a lot since i went to sleep...
can't help on this one.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't believe that she's as accepting as she makes herself out to be in "Bum Like You" - it's out.

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

I like "Crash And Burn Girl" better, but it's just not the essence. Let's go with Handle Me.

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Since I swiped mindinrewind's new album privlidges previously, someone else can take a shot.

EppyIsNoLongerWaitingForGas, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

OK, how about Low - what single track could be the essence of an album with two completely different sides?

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10. Weeping Wall (3:25)
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Kinda left-field but worth doing I think: Scarface's The Fix

1. The Fix
2. Safe
3. In Cold Blood
4. Guess Who's Back
5. On My Block
6. Keep Me Down.
7. What Can I Do?
8. In Between Us
9. Someday
10. Sellout
11. Heaven
12. I Ain't the One
13. Fixed

ahh xpost!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

We can keep both going.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I adore all the pop side and wouldn't lose any of it, whereas elements of the second side (which I also love) feel more or less interchangeable, so I picked "Weeping Wall" almost at random.

It's an interesting pick this because the two side 1 instrumentals might be considered both disposable and also the gap-bridgers, hence essential. If I had to pick an 'essence' "New Career" might be it.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Actually I do think Weeping Wall is the weakest track on the album, it's a little too derivative of Steve Reich et al. (I still like it though.)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Be My Wife goes - *slightly* 'old Bowie' in the context of this album

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I am gonna refrain from being a big meany: I've always disliked side 2 of Low and think it's a huge disappointment; I don't think the two sides belong together at all. So, I am abstaining from side 2. Side 1, on the other hand, is a masterpiece, and considerably more sentimental than a still-coked-up-near-sunrise collection oughta be. Except "Breaking Glass," which is cute but gimmicky, and while the album is largely about various moods in contrast, this one's not the center. Peace out, "Breaking Glass."

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

x-post, "Be My Wife" now gone so we got:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

I like this thread so much I have used my mod powers for good and summarised the results in the title post.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

I'll take out Art Decade. Gorgeous track, but rather stately and not weirdly skewed enough to be the essence.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9.
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna lose "Art Decade" cos I'm a side 1 kinda guy too, so I guess it'll have to be:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

That takes care of Side 2.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Dammit, I was going to exclude "Weeping Wall" as well. ("Breaking Glass", on the other hand, is as Essence as it gets for me. In fact, it's so short that it's practically pure distilled Essence.)

Then I was going to exclude "Be My Wife", but got beaten to it again. DAMN!

Then it was going to be "Subterraneans", but I could't demolish Side 2.

So now it's going to be "Sound And Vision", because it's the one tgrack which has an independent life above and beyond Low. ie. when I hear it, I don't think Low.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Poor old side 2 :(

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

ppl show love to Scarface too!!

xpost my animus toward side 2 is decades old, this is like a great unburdening for me to see it go down in flames!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

"Sound and Vision" actually woulda had my vote for purest essence of the album BUT my second pick would have been one of the remaining BUT I ain't sayin' which one!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't know Scarface I'm afraid...

"Heroes" would probably be an interesting choice for this thread, too. Once you killed the title track anyway, which is clearly NOT the essence of that album.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

good, my fav is still here... so i'm gonna have to shoot the one i love the least of those remaining : go get a goddam new career !

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

:( I was listening to "A New Career..." this morning, it's so beautiful.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

i cant believe "s&v" and "warszawa" got axed.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3.
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

ok, someone please make crashing the essence of this one ! (that said, having an instrumental BUT from the side 1 ti be the essence of this one would be nice...).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

"New Career" is really the essence, it's got so many aspects of the album rolled into three minutes. The knees-up piano of 'Be My Wife', those Kraftwerk-style interludes, the musical Burroughsian cut-up nature of it, the wordlessness...

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

I don't know Scarface I'm afraid...

You are missing out!

"Heroes" would probably be an interesting choice for this thread, too. Once you killed the title track anyway, which is clearly NOT the essence of that album.

I'd hope that "Heroes" would make it 'til very near the end of the thread in a hypothetical "Heroes" reduction, though. Prior to its broader uses, it occupied a pretty special place in the Bowie canon: such an obvious masterpiece, such a gorgeous lyric, such an incredible synthline. Though I think the album's essence is "Blackout."

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

(I know, sorry guys...like it too...but the heart spoke !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:q48c_xWZu6EJ:www.amadirectlink.com/news/2005/images/Speed.jpg vs ittp://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:480yNHbrk78J:people.freenet.de/f1network/picture11.jpg

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

how bout forever changes?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10. Bummer In The Summer
11. You Set The Scene

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

This tension is killing me...

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Though I think the album's essence is "Blackout."

Yeah, that or 'Joe The Lion'.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Can we stop this annoying habit of getting to the final two and then jumping the gun to a new album??

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

sorry, thought it was done! i guess someone needs to post the final tracklist of 1 though... apologies.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Well, someone needs to pick a winner, the tracklist isn't so crucial :)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

besides, isn't only the one who makes the final shoot allowed to start a new album ? come on people, there are rules !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, fun is best when it's ORGANISED fun!

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Someone please pick something else than rock music, so I can join the game too...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

eheh...
so won't someone finish low so that we can move on, hum ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

you're free to make the final shoot tuomas and choose any album you want ! it's organised but free, here...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Alright, you twisted me arm. Out with "Speed of Light":

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Meaning Speed of Life, obvs.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

good !
now hit us with something new

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Alright...what's next?

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

ABBA and Robyn aren't rock music Tuomas.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

I defer to y'all, as I'd just pick something by Pavement and bore people. Aaron's suggestion upthread is fine by me.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

OK then...Forever Changes

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10. Bummer In The Summer
11. You Set The Scene

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

great, but inessential.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

The essence of Forever Changes isn't jaunty whimsy. Goodbye, Live And Let Live.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Someone please pick something else than rock music, so I can join the game too...

I did! It was a rap album! It got no love!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Andmoreagain, you're just too slow.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

michael jackson wasnt rock either

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

"Old Man" is a great song, but is in no way the essence of this record. There IS a clear winner here. WILL ILM GET IT RIGHT?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11. You Set The Scene

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Hello, I'm having a larf, aint i?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10.
11.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

The essence of Forever Changes isn't jaunty whimsy. Goodbye, Live And Let Live.

"Live and Let Live" jaunty and whimsical?!??!?! It's the darkest song on the album!!!!!!!!

"Good Humor Man" - now that is jaunty and whimsical, so must go

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8.
9.
10.
11. You Set The Scene

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

oh and talk about weak tea

1 Synchronicity I
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

"Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale" is my choice to steal from the album, because the remaining songs are clearly better.

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll justify it. I was stuck, and as Eno says in one of his "oblique strategies" cards, if stuck, take the one thing that you are most proud of, and remove it.

xpost, removing 11. You Set The Scene

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

"A House Is Not A Motel" not quite as good as the last three - i.e. only sheer staggering genuis

1. Alone Again Or
2.
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

"The Red Telephone" is the schizoid, paranoid essence of Forever Changes.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

zeus blew it. nice job, zeus. (always wanted to say that.)

let me piss you off by eliminating everyone's favorite. but here's my thinking: not only was it done with a "studio band" instead of the "real" Love band, and not only is it just too standalone epic/iconic to really be the essence of an album..but Chris Perez covered it better in the 1990s in Spanish. Therefore:

1.
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

crap i meant
1.
2.
3.
4. Daily Planet, The
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
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8.
9.
10.
11.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

and hey jz PLAY THE GAME RIGHT AND DON"T JUMP THE GUN YOU WANKER

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Yes I suppose "The Daily Planet" has to go, because tho it's weird and slightly spooky, "The Red Telephone" out-weirds it, so:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Red Telephone, The
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I was pulling for You Set The Scene. That's one of my favorite songs ever.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Right, Dukes of Stratosphear - Psonic Psunspots

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6. You're My Drug (Johns) - 3:16
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10. Pale and Precious (Johns) - 4:55

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

"You're My Drug" - plain boring

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10. Pale and Precious (Johns) - 4:55

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

eff a beach boyz

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3. Little Lighthouse (Johns) - 4:24
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Yep, that was next on my list

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

For being a left-over XTC track really...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

For sounding too much like Oasis

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5.
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8. Brainiac's Daughter (Johns) - 3:38
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Little Lighthouse isn't pastichey enough, but maybe that's part of the essence of PS, they pulled back from where they were at with the earlier mini-LP. So - we only need one Beatles skit :

Oh - ha ha Grouty has rubbed it out anyway! Oh well.

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2. Have You Seen Jackie? (Johns) - 3:17
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I always wondered what B.Wilson made of "Pale and Precious". And then I found, in the Domenic Priore Book, someone played it to him and he thought 1) that they were trying to sound like Paul McCartney, and 2) not much.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Collideascope sounds more like Oasis than anything, but don't let that decide for you, I've had my go.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

That's preceisely why I binned "Collideascope" and said it sounded like Oasis!!!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Dada, only one go per album please! :)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Oh sorry! I'm new to this game...

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

You won't see Jackie on this list...

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7. Shiny Cage (Red Curtain) - 3:15
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Notice how Colin Moulding's doing so much better than old clever clogs Andy Partridge?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

1. Vanishing Girl (Red Curtain) - 2:30
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7.
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

I only really like the music hall pastiches now, so goodbye Shiny Cage.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, that killed that one. You guys will have to do "galang" next or summat.

Hey, how come the 'winners' are up on the first thread message? Is this a backwards thread after all?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

tom did the trick... it's gonna be the tracklist to an "Essence de ILM" compilation...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Tom was being helpful. I like it!

OK, I'll pitch in:

1.
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5. Collideascope (Johns) - 3:21
6.
7.
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.

Goodbye "Red Curtain."

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

ah right! Nice one.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. The Affiliated (Red Curtain) - 2:17
10.


Collideascope should have been throw out earlier.

zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

somebody take a second pick, and finish this one up!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Albert Brown is the essence here.

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2.
3.
4. You're a Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You... (Johns) - 3:04
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.


Next up, trim the fat off the album with less fat than any other. What is the essence of Wire's Pink Flag?
1. Reuters
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6. Start To Move
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10. Pink Flag
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14. Mr. Suit
15. Strange
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

The King of Flop Threads, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

nice choice! im gonna wait a bit on this one...

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

The first pick here can't but be arbitrary - but "Start To Move" does nothing other tracks on the record don't do better.

1. Reuters
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10. Pink Flag
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14. Mr. Suit
15. Strange
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Poisoned by R.E.M. and it do drag on a bit so goodbye "Strange":

1. Reuters
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10. Pink Flag
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14. Mr. Suit
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

after this, maybe the next few SHOULD be non-rock albums, just to get some new interest. or whatever - maybe people should just fend for themselves. i know i love wire.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I'll remove one of the sludgy tracks - "Pink Flag"

1. Reuters
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14. Mr. Suit
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

Also, "Options R" was a bonus track on the CD reissue.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

dammit - that was in my top 5, tim!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Maybe just because it has the misfortune of coming after "106 Beats That," but meh to "Mr. Suit":

1. Reuters
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I'll take of Reuters. I love it, but slow and heavy is not the essence of Pink Flag.

1.
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22. Options R

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

22. Options R

as it was a tagged on b-side

1.
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18. Different To Me
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

as far as i can tell, there's three favorites here, and two or three dark horses.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Different To Me is one of the few weaker tracks.

1.
2. Field Day for the Sundays
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22.

zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

"field day for the sundays" is only a means to an end, however awesome it may be.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19. Champs
20. Feeling Called Love
21. 12XU
22.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

after this, maybe the next few SHOULD be non-rock albums, just to get some new interest.

there's always that masterpiece of a Scarface album upthread that got orphaned

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I was kinda rooting for "Field Day for the Sundays."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

tim - i know - as soon as i typed it, i felt like i disagreed with myself. there IS a strong element of "finished before it starts" to PF, and field day is a great/possibly-the-best example thereof. it just feels a little too meta to me to call it the essence of PF for those purposes.

but whats done is done. the essence will be more clear-cut, it seems.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

(thats the problem)/(thats whats fun) about doing this with my favorite albums; it feels like you really need to understand the album from a few angles, and my view of the essence of the album changes as i look more closely.

heisenberg!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Hah, I was um, sorta daydreaming about doing this album. I need to get a life. I know. Thanks KoFT.

I'm killing Feeling Called Love. The straight ahead one-four-five thing, even if sarcastic (is it?) doesn't stand up to the freshness of the rest.


1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19. Champs
20.
21. 12XU
22.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

In my daydream I knew "Reuters" would go quickly, and was thinking where is the "Island of Lost Toys" as it were for songs non-essential to albums that are essential in and of themselves?

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Goodbye Brazil. It doesn't do anything that the others don't. Champs must win, thx bye.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7.
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11. The Commercial
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19. Champs
20.
21. 12XU
22.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

i dont even care about tipping my hand here; in my mind, these are the essential songs.

"reuters" - just because its not representative doesnt mean it isnt the essence. i mean, maybe its longer for a reason. and opening tracks get a little extra consideration in my mind.
"field day" - see an above post for my flipout regarding this one.
"three girl rhumba" - iconic - maybe the best and most memorable riff on an album full of riffs.
"ex lion tamer" - almost as good a riff as 3GR, and the clearest display of wire's polemics and the physical momentum of the playing.
"pink flag" - see "reuters" description - title tracks seem to deserve more attention for this, too.
"12XU" - vitriolic, riffy - probably the talking at the beginning makes this one the obvious choice AND the best choice.

just missing the cut are "it's so obvious" and "106 beats that."

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

It would seem 12XU would be the favorite, but I hope it doesn't win. It's not nearly artsy enough to be the essence of this record.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

it has the attitude and the sound of the band, though...

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I usually think of "The Commercial" as little more than an interlude.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19. Champs
20.
21. 12XU
22.

Ross Godfrey (scatter), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

petesmith OTM! And, who says essence must be one song? The atom was the supposedly indivisible particle. Wrong.

But it's just a game. Hence:

It would seem 12XU would be the favorite, but I hope it doesn't win. It's not nearly artsy enough to be the essence of this record.

I've seen the 'popular' track win more times than not, and oh well, that really just ends up confirming for me that me 'n' the masses (even ILM masses?? is there such a thing?) never seem to agree (see my post on "Driving Me Backwards" up thread) but from what I've observed in a brief time here isn't disagreement the spice of ILM?

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

"Champs" is pretty cool but i'm gonna apply the oft-used "doesn't do anything that the don't" criticism.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7. Brazil
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21. 12XU
22.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

whoops, I somehow snuck "Brazil" back in there with my post. The album should look like this right now:

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7.
8. It’s So Obvious
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21. 12XU
22.

Ross Godfrey (scatter), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

"It's So Obvious" = boring and short.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7.
8.
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13. 106 Beats That
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21. 12XU
22.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7.
8.
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21. 12XU
22.

casey (t. fiend), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

(sorry if I slayed somebody's sacred cow. It was the only song I could in good conscience cut... this is a tough one. Even if we all know which one is gonna win.)

casey (t. fiend), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

it's nice to see some of my faves making the cut on this one, even if some of my faves have been slain.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

Great as it is, "12XU" is too ramalama-play-dumb-punky to be the essence of Pink Flag. It's a useful pointer as to where Wire started (ie. down the Roxy Club) and as to what they had already moved away from - but at this stage, it has to go.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5. Lowdown
6.
7.
8.
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

While we're waiting for Pink Flag to get whittled down, let's poke a sharp stick at Dare :

1. The Things The Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3. The Sound Of The Crowd
4. Darkness
5. Do Or Die
6. Get Carter
7. I Am The Law
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

Get Carter is inessential, yet is a link back to those old HL/The Future instrumentals, which seems a shame to lose. So 'Don't You Want Me' takes the fall - it feels like a stand-alone single to me.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

I am the law is too plodding, doesn't seem to match the pace of the record

1. The Things The Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3. The Sound Of The Crowd
4. Darkness
5. Do Or Die
6. Get Carter
7.
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

Laney, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

I love the intro, but not so much the rest of it, so I'll lose "Do Or Die".

1. The Things The Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3. The Sound Of The Crowd
4. Darkness
5.
6. Get Carter
7.
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

1. The Things The Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3. The Sound Of The Crowd
4.
5.
6. Get Carter
7.
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

I don't like the way he sings "Darkness DA-AAARK-ness" much.

I would be happy with any of the others as essence, except Get Carter maybe.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

You can somehow tell that "The Sound Of The Crowd" was an early prototype for the rest of the album... with the emotional dimension yet to be worked upon, it's still a little too "throwing interesting New Romantic shapes in nightclubs" to qualify as essence.

1. The Things That Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3.
4.
5.
6. Get Carter
7.
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

1. The Things That Dreams Are Made Of
2. Open Your Heart
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Seconds
9. Love Action
10.

'Get Carter' is a little too referential to sum up such a bright, shiny modern pop artefeact, even though itworks perfectly in the context of the album.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Aargh! Do Or Die has gone!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

'Seconds', because I care about the others

1 The Things That Dreams Are Made Of
2 Open Your Heart
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 Love Action
10

tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

i am finding this impossible.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

1 The Things That Dreams Are Made Of
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 Love Action
10

Did you see what I did just then?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

'The Things That Dreams Are Made Of' doesn't have the I BELIEVE IN ME I BELIEVE IN YOU bit.

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 Love Action
10

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Great call, The Lex!! That's the right result!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Oh do I have to post an album now then? Hang on a tick.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Yep, definitely right choice.

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

OK, I've genuinely no idea what will win this, but I do know that all but one or two of the removals will hurt me deeply:

Björk, Debut

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3 Venus As A Boy
4 There's More To Life Than This
5 Like Someone In Love
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9 Come To Me
10 Violently Happy
11 The Anchor Song
12 Play Dead

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

(also remember we have to finish Wire, people!)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Hang on do I get first removal?

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

OK reading back it appears I do. Bye-bye, 'Like Someone In Love', you are actually a bit slight and unnecessary.

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3 Venus As A Boy
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9 Come To Me
10 Violently Happy
11 The Anchor Song
12 Play Dead

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Play Dead as it's a tacked-on-the-US-release track, or somesuch. Ha, easy decision!

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3 Venus As A Boy
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9 Come To Me
10 Violently Happy
11 The Anchor Song
12

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

After a great series of singles, "Violently Happy" felt like a tedious follow-up; for the first time it looked like Björk was beginning to follow a pattern instead of setting it.

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3 Venus As A Boy
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9 Come To Me
10
11 The Anchor Song
12 Play Dead

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Whoops, x-post, but you can still scrap "Violently Happy".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

"Venus As A Boy" really put me off this album when it first came out, and the years haven't done much to change my mind.


1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9 Come To Me
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh, how bizarre! I was only thinking this morning: "If I get to pick an album for the pure essence thread, then I'll pick Debut."

I always found the Come To Me/Violently Happy section a bit irritating, so...

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8 Aeroplane
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

"Aeroplane" is one of the few songs where her attacking the words with a rusty knife doesn't actually help, no wait, the instrumental ending is fantastic, no wait again, that proves my point. It goes.

1 Human Behaviour
2 Crying
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

(I think "One Day" is my favourite track from that album, but after listening several great remixes of it I can't even remember what the original sounds like.)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

1 Human Behaviour
2
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7 One Day
8
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

"Crying" as I don't remember it and so can't be its essence.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Meantime, I'll help Wire further along...

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12. Straight Line
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

"Lowdown" obviously. Too slow, way too long (almost 2 and a half minutes! ;-) ) (Mannequin is even longer, but those opening lines are so great)

Il Duce (Koens), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

much as i love it "One Day" has to go (sorry Tuomas) becasue it's not the essence of "Debut" nor particularly a hint as to what was to follow (like "The Anchor Song" is).

1 Human Behaviour
2
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6 Big Time Sensuality
7
8
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

(actually Human Behaviour is my least favourite track on Debut, but it may well be the essence!)

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

"Big Time Sensuality" might be my favorite song on the album, but it's somewhat of an anomaly, not the best representation of the album's essence

1 Human Behaviour
2
3
4 There's More To Life Than This
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

daveheaton, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

track 4 is good but does feel quite removed from most Bjork stuff so out it goes

1 Human Behaviour
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 The Anchor Song
12

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

i was rooting for 'big time sensuality' :( :(

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Human behaviour is also not my favourite but this is what i was thinking is the essence from the start

1 Human Behaviour
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12

Arnault (arc73hk), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

If The Anchor Song wins I will be gutted.

xpost, hooray!

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

i can't really remember The Anchor Song off hand so glad the brilliant opening track won out. I've always thought it would've worked better as the second one in though...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

And now time for some PSB - their essential album

01 Being Boring
02 This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
03 To Face The Truth
04 How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously?
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07 So Hard
08 Nervously
09 The End Of The World
10 Jealousy

Arnault (arc73hk), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Bye bye.

01 Being Boring
02 This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
03 To Face The Truth
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07 So Hard
08 Nervously
09 The End Of The World
10 Jealousy

Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

01 Being Boring
02 This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
03
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07 So Hard
08 Nervously
09 The End Of The World
10 Jealousy

No Neil, no, NOT THE HIGH VOICE, aaargh.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe Pink Flag is taking this long. Anyway, all the rest are unbelievable classics. But I guess Straight Line is just a little less classic than the rest.

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Surgeon’s Girl
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

The King of Flop Threads, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

It's one of my favourite PSB singles... but "So Hard" really belongs on a different album, doesn't it? (It's the "Ignoreland" syndrome.)

01 Being Boring
02 This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
03
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07
08 Nervously
09 The End Of The World
10 Jealousy

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

pete otm. let's finish this, people.
1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17. Mannequin
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

carly (carly), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

I love it but "The End Of The World" is probably not the essence of Behavior.

01 Being Boring
02 This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
03
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07
08 Nervously
09
10 Jealousy

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

uh, yeah

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4. Ex Lion Tamer
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

Garrett Martin (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

now you ain't got a numbah!!

1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. Fragile
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Ok I'll kill this one off - not enough punk edge to fragile so
1.
2.
3. Three Girl Rhumba
etc etc. Easy money.

Now we haven't had any dance music in this bitch yet, so - Orbital, In Sides.

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2. P.E.T.R.O.L.
3. The Box pt 1
4. The Box pt 2
5. Dwr Budr
6. Adnan's
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

I've heard it done live pretty well but on this disc P.E.T.R.O.L. just don't cut it -

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3. The Box pt 1
4. The Box pt 2
5. Dwr Budr
6. Adnan's
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

it's like a bad pardody of a PSB track - goodbye "this must be the place..."

01 Being Boring
02
03
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07
08 Nervously
09
10 Jealousy

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

I like it fine enough, it's fantastic, but it's not the essence, and really, it's all in the payoff, and some of the other remainders are all gold, baby.

01
02
03
04
05 Only The Wind
06 My October Symphony
07
08 Nervously
09
10 Jealousy

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

*sharp intake of breath at removal of Being Boring*

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

So are we doing PSB and Orbital simultaneously now? I feel bad about now doing PSB since it's doner, but I don't know that album at all. So thus, the Orbital album loses Adnan's.

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3. The Box pt 1
4. The Box pt 2
5. Dwr Budr
6.
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

shame about Adnans.

part 1 of The Box feels rather superfluous and too strict in it's purpose as scene-stetter, compared to part 1 of OTS, so out it goes:

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3.
4. The Box pt 2
5. Dwr Budr
6.
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

also recovering from the removal of being boring.
and now adnan.
I remove the other half of the box now...

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3.
4.
5. Dwr Budr
6.
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

Arnault (arc73hk), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

sharp exhale at removing a pretty great song in favor of three better ones

01
02
03
04
05
06 My October Symphony
07
08 Nervously
09
10 Jealousy

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Why would you defend Adnan's?

I'm shocked Dwr Budr has made it this long...

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

One of the three remaining PSB is clearly the best song on the record, and I just figured "Being Boring" was a threat to it. Won't say which one lest I be spited :(

edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

x-post. I was totally obsessed by adnan's after listening to insides... It was on all my mixtapes on that year... I got at least 5 people into orbital's thanks to that track...
I always like the cyclical feeling and always was into the quiet side of orbital.

Arnault (arc73hk), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm shocked 'Dwr Budr' made it this long too especially beating 'The Box' which is deeply wounding. So buh-bye.

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Out There Somewhere pt 1
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

as for psb, I don't own this album but Edward I will never forgive you for removing 'Being Boring' which is possibly the best song ever. Even better than the one I think you want to win which admittedly would be a fantastic winner too.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

it's gotta be TGWTSIHH surely. i'm not really a fan of OTS in comparison to so much Orbital work.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I hope the one Edward wants to win isn't the one I don't want to win.

I don't like Orbital.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I was sure Adnan's was a contender, but yeah, has to be tgwtsihh now. FINISH HIM!

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I love "Nervously" but I feel like "Jealousy" is a bit close to it and the other track is what I have always considered the essence of the album. :)

01
02
03
04
05
06 My October Symphony
07
08
09
10 Jealousy

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

and hell, while I'm here:

1. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Out There Somewhere pt 2

I think part 2 kind of has the payoff of this song, which is what I love most about Orbital. The off-parts in their songs only work to me because they resolve.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Out There Somewhere

I can barely remember how TGWTSIHH goes, whereas Out There Somwhere (and I think of it as one track, not two - neither works nearly as well w/o the other) is my favourite bit of Orbital

xpost - too late!

Oh well, pt.2 wins by default

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Gah! There's definitely something of a 'designed by a committee' feel to all this :^)

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I blame Orbital for that one. It's their fault for breaking up songs so er artistically.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

oh, I get to start a new one now, right? time for some prog methinks. (well, it least it'll be over quickly!)

Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans

1. The Revealing Science Of God - Dance of the Dawn (20:23)
2. The Remembering - High The Memory (20:35)
3. The Ancient - Giants Under the Sun (18:37)
4. Ritual - Nous Sommes Du Soleil (21:33)

probably the Yes record I have least emotional attachment to (tho' I still like it), so don't care what wins. I'd ditch "The Ancient" first. The rhythmic bit at the start is pretty hot, but Steve Howe's extensive noodling later on is kinda boring.

1. The Revealing Science Of God
2. The Remembering
3.
4. Ritual

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

"The Remembering"? Don't remember that one anyway, honest. So...

1. The Revealing Science Of God
2.
3.
4. Ritual

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

"The Revealing Science of God" wins cause it has an appropriately ridiculous title.

1. The Revealing Science Of God
2.
3.
4.

We need another hip-hop album since the only one (scarface) disappeared without comment. How about "Illmatic"?

1. The Genesis
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5. Halftime
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8. One Time 4 Your Mind
9. Represent
10. It Ain’t Hard to Tell

I'll kick it off by removing "The Genesis" cause it's short

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5. Halftime
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8. One Time 4 Your Mind
9. Represent
10. It Ain’t Hard to Tell

daveheaton, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I always thought the sample usage on "It Ain't Hard to Tell" was pretty sloppy, and it's pretty unmemorable for a closer.

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5. Halftime
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8. One Time 4 Your Mind
9. Represent
10.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

oh but getting rid of "It Ain't Hard To Tell" is insane. oh well.

i think i'll toss "One Time 4 Your Mind". it isn't even in the same universe as the word "essence".

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5. Halftime
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8.
9. Represent
10.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Halftime always seemed like a bit of a 'halftime' break between the brilliance for me.

(If 'memory lane' doesnt win...well...)

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5.
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8.
9. Represent
10.

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

So right, the PSB still isn't finished. OK then, nothing against 'My October Symphony' but it's up against 'JEALOUSY' for chrissakes.

01
02
03
04
05
06
07
08
09
10 Jealousy

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I actually quite like this two-at-once thing we have going on, it means there's less chance that you have to wait around for an album you don't own or care about to get done.

Kate Bush, Hounds Of Love

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3 The Big Sky
4 Mother Stands For Comfort
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10 Jig Of Life
11 Hello Earth
12 The Morning Fog

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

'The Big Sky' sometimes annoys me because it's like an inferior and slightly twee version of the two songs which precede it.

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4 Mother Stands For Comfort
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10 Jig Of Life
11 Hello Earth
12 The Morning Fog

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking last night that HoL would be interesting. I'm going to hold off voting for a while though.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5.
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7. One Love
8.
9. Represent
10.

Ditching "It Ain't Hard to Tell" that early really is surprising. But moving on, "Represent" isn't especially strong compared to some of the other remaining tracks and I think the tone isn't representative (yes yes ok ok) of the entire album.

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3. Life’s a Bitch
4. The World Is Yours
5.
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7.
8.
9.
10.

"One Love" really does hint at how fucking corny Nas would get later on, so let's kill this child at birth.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

to my mind there are 3 or 4 tracks that can win this one and "Mother Stands For Comfort" is not one of them.

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10 Jig Of Life
11 Hello Earth
12 The Morning Fog

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

the HoL question really is whether the essence is from Hounds Of Love or The Ninth Wave, ie will it be CLASSIC SINGLE or SCARY EXPERIMENTALISM? I'd never be able to choose which is why I started it.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Life's a bitch is too sleazy. This record is hard all three should win.

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3.
4. The World Is Yours
5.
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7.
8.
9.
10.

Laney, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10
11 Hello Earth
12 The Morning Fog

The Obligatory Riverdancer (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

"The World Is Yours" is too certain and philosophical. On the rest of Illmatic, Nas is more contradictory and practical.

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3.
4.
5.
6. Memory Lane (Sittin’ In Da Park)
7.
8.
9.
10.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

When I first heard the record it was NY State of Mind which I liked most, and it pretty much sets out what was special about the record.

1.
2. NY State of Mind
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

And simply because it's sitting next to me, and we haven't had a Prince record yet, Dirty Mind

1. Dirty Mind
2. When You Were Mine
3. Do It All Night
4. Gotta Broken Heart Again
5. Uptown
6. Head
7. Sister
8. Partyup

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Man, another album where I only remember the couple of songs that I think are going to end up as the essence...

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3. Do It All Night
4. Gotta Broken Heart Again
5. Uptown
6. Head
7. Sister
8. Partyup

When you were mine is oen of my favorite songs by Prince, but I never thought that it fit.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)


Too many good albums were done while I wasn't looking... I just listened to Secrets of the Beehive again, and it's hard to eliminate any of these songs, but I'll choose "When Poets Dreamed of Angels" -- something about it being largely intrumental, with long intro + outro with lots of flamenco guitar -- it's good, but not the essence.

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

The ol' "there's nothing here that other songs don't do better" defense.

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3.
4. Gotta Broken Heart Again
5. Uptown
6. Head
7. Sister
8. Partyup

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3.
4.
5. Uptown
6. Head
7. Sister
8. Partyup

Because it never made me laugh or cry

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3.
4.
5. Uptown
6. Head
7. Sister
8.

Because I don't remember it and there are other songs that are clearly more essential.

regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3.
4.
5. Uptown
6. Head
7.
8.

Because transgression is overrated and funk isn't.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 29 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
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4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10
11 Hello Earth
12

Now that "Jig Of Life has been cruelly eviscerated from the album, I have little patience for the ninth wave.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8 Waking The Witch
9 Watching You Without Me
10
11
12

Goodbye, "Hello Earth," It's truly the assence of the album.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 29 September 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Scott Walker - Scott 4

1 The Seventh Seal
2 On Your Own Again
3 The World's Strongest Man
4 Angels of Ashes
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9 Get Behind Me
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

I can't think of any other album album with such a dudly opening track. The rest is nearly perfect. At least by Tilt he was able to make a decent tribute song ("Farmer in the City") instead of just going "Ooohhhh did you know his name was Pier Paolo?... Mmmmm did you read his poetry?... Yayoo-ohh"

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2 On Your Own Again
3 The World's Strongest Man
4 Angels of Ashes
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9 Get Behind Me
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

I reckon the singles *are* the essence of HoL, despite it being the most albumy of albums. So I am very upset to see The Big Sky has been trashed. That might have been my winner. Anyway Waking the Witch must go - it slightly breaks up the flow for me. Goodbye.

1.Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
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4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
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9 Watching You Without Me
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12

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 29 September 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

Scott 4 - this is TOUGH! But I kind of feel that World's Strongest Man is more suited to Scott 2/3 territory than this one. Doesn't feel like Scott's pushing himself or enough care has been taken with the arrangement.

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2 On Your Own Again
3
4 Angels of Ashes
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9 Get Behind Me
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 29 September 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Scott 4 nigh on impossible (although I'm pretty sure I know what the essence is). I'm cutting Angels of Ashes. It always sounded like a rip-off of Sisters of Mercy to me. And whatever Angels of Ashes does, Boy Child does better.

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2 On Your Own Again
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4
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9 Get Behind Me
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

jz, Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Alright, who got shot of "jig of life" ?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Scott 4 nigh on impossible

Hardly, removed for being sub-Scott 3 and, basically, a bit pisspoor:

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3
4
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9 Get Behind Me
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

I disagree about "Angel of the Ashes" but the opening three tracks are a bit feeble, get it together Scott!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

Hold on, are we now juggling THREE albums???!!! OK! I have votes outstanding on all three I think so here's a blockbuster post:

Scott 4: The good songs here are either funny or moving and "Get Behind Me" is neither.

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4
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8 Duchess
9
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

Over to Kate, and Watching You Without Me is now out on its own a bit, so I'll put it out of its misery.

1.Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6 And Dream Of Sheep
7 Under Ice
8
9
10
11
12

And as for Prince - both my 'essence' picks have gone now so it's a simple fight between Uptown and Head for me, and Head shades it.

1. Dirty Mind
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Head
7.
8.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Apart from Big Sky getting the chop, HoL is proceedinmg nicely.

I do see why Get Behind Me has gone, but I am still hurt in my heart.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

When the album shares it's title with a track on it, it's quite difficult not to think of that track as the essence.

So I'm going to axe 'And Dream Of Sheep' on that basis alone really and assist in wittling it down towards the three big singles (unless 'Under Ice' capitalises on it's album track status, as if being a single was disadvantageous to a track's potential as album essence at all).

1.Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
2 Hounds Of Love
3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6
7 Under Ice
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9
10
11
12

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to pick an album, and also to perhaps court Controversy so...

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6. Head
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8.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I think a strong case could def be made for 'Under Ice' and would hope it makes it to at least the last three.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Let's hear the strong case!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

it acts like a bridge between hounds of love and the ninth wave, i think it contains equal elements of both, leading from one into the other.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Might be interesting as I still find this album dead low on filler...

1. Turn the Page
2. Has It Come to This?
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10. Who Got the Funk?
11. The Irony of It All
12. Weak Becomes Heroes
13. Who Dares Wins
14. Stay Positive


but yes, 'Who Got The Funk?' probably qualifies as somewhat throwaway, entertaining and snappy as it is.


1. Turn the Page
2. Has It Come to This?
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11. The Irony of It All
12. Weak Becomes Heroes
13. Who Dares Wins
14. Stay Positive

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

the irony of it all, skinner, is that you are a bigger twat than either of your characters and weed is still the worst drug evah.

1. Turn The Page
2. Has It Come To This?
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11.
12. Weak Become Heroes
13. Who Dares Wins
14. Stay Positive

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

you so crazeh!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

i thought those were the obvious two to get rid of at the start! 'the irony of it all' is dreadful and unfunny! (and i love the rest of opm.)

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

'The Big Sky' sometimes annoys me because it's like an inferior and slightly twee version of the two songs which precede it

The early deletion of "The Big Sky" annoys me cos IMO it's a superior (if slightly twee) version of the song that precedes it. I realise that "It's IN THE TREES. It's COMING!!" is an iconic ILX meme and stuff. And yes, "Hounds of Love" is unusual structurally (which bit is the verse? which is the chorus? etc.). But sorry, it has to go next.

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
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3
4
5 Cloudbusting
6
7 Under Ice
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12

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

I would defend TIOIA to the hilt and it's one of the highlights on the album for me but w'evah.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

"Has It Come To This?" is shit, I never rated that, the album is better without it.

1. Turn The Page
2.
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11.
12. Weak Become Heroes
13. Who Dares Wins
14. Stay Positive

zeus (zeus), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

My title track = album essence theory probably doesn't hold up, but I am interested in how conscious artists are about wanting the title track to be seen as the essence, regardless of genre (tho possibly not as important in pop?). Perhaps 'Hounds Of Love' was too poppy and upbeat so this didn't reflect the album well as a whole?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

I think HoL is the best pop song she's ever done but I'm not unhappy about it not being picked as the 'essence' of its parent album. But then I'd put it in the running for an 'essence' of her whole career maybe. I'm so conflicted!

Scott seems to have gone off the boil somewhat.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Then maybe we should do an essence of a career game. For the sake of simplicity, we can use artists best of. Maybe the smiths's singles?

Arnault (arc73hk), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

I think just nominating would be fine for that.

I almost named ABBA Gold instead of Arrival, I kind of wish I had now as "Arrival" is SO NOT the essence of that album.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

i was wondering about putting up a best of at some point - the immaculate collection, maybe, or discography. the trouble with a lot of albums is that they have a foregone conclusion if there's a super-strong single present.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Up to "Weak" it's one long great songbook - the last two seem less essential.

1. Turn The Page
2.
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11.
12. Weak Become Heroes
13.
14. Stay Positive

Il Duce (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

insanity! the last three tracks are the essential climax of OPM!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

"Turn the Page" actually hurts me to listen to.

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2.
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6. Geezers Need Excitement
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11.
12. Weak Become Heroes
13.
14. Stay Positive

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Aiiieee! "Turn The Page" is my favourite Streets song ever :(

(probably)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

"Geezers Need Excitement", um, yes, right. The Yanks do this better, just putting "geezers" in doesn't make it less awkward, and could that backing be any weaker? It's like the soundtrack to an 80s arcade adventure game on the Spectrum or something.

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2.
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6.
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
10.
11.
12. Weak Become Heroes
13.
14. Stay Positive

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

The 'Yanks' do not write about fights over a hurled chip!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Time for a confession: I don't give a monkeys about how good raving was five years ago.

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2.
3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
6.
7. It's Too Late
8. Too Much Brandy
9. Don't Mug Yourself
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11.
12.
13.
14. Stay Positive

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

my poor baby 'weak become heroes'!!!!!!!!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but they probably don't sound quite so laughable when they try to conjure a sinister air over their tracks, eh.

x-post, aww WBH...

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

I thought the whole point was that it was scary and laughable at the same time (a chip-induced punch-up, I mean)

Il Duce (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

"Call me Baron Von No Fun": readers of my LJ know my stance on binge drinking.

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3. Let's Push Things Forward
4. Sharp Darts
5. Same Old Thing
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7. It's Too Late
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9. Don't Mug Yourself
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13.
14. Stay Positive

Jeff W (zebedee), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Come on let's finish Kate.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Put poor old Scott out of his self-inflicted misery while you're at it

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe you cut "Turn the Page". Gosh and golly.

"Sharp Darts" is a mere interlude. Whammo!

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3. Let's Push Things Forward
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5. Same Old Thing
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7. It's Too Late
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9. Don't Mug Yourself
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14. Stay Positive

sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I just cant get myself to do it. OK this is just because I really CANNOT eliminate any of the remaining 2.

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
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5 Cloudbusting
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12

Arnault (arc73hk), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Heh I was hoping Sharp Darts would sneak through and win it.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

The chorus to Duchess gives me a headache.

1
2
3
4
5 Boy Child
6 Hero of the War
7 The Old Man's Back Again
8
9
10 Rhymes of Goodbye

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Put the record on, listen to it, it's absolutely MASSIVE isn't it?

1 Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
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12

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

i should've got rid of 'don't mug yourself' when i had the chance. curses.

poor 'under ice', but at least we now have a HEAVYWEIGHT KATE SHOWDOWN which is completely unpredictable. i know which i'm rooting for though.

xpost AAARGH WRONG CHOICE EDWARD!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Cloudbusting is so much more the essence :(

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

cloudbusting is not just the essence of hounds of love, it is poss the essence of ALL POP MUSIC EVER :(

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

It does strike me that I'd have been unsatisfied with any of them. I mean, to me, "Babooshka" and "This Woman's Work" are obvious essences of their albums, but NO CLEAR CHOICE.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

i'd been rooting for either cloudbusting (if the essence is pop) or under ice (if the essence was experimentalism) - running up that hill is amazing but in much the same vein as the more-amazing title track.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Enough with the Kate Bush chat, finish off some of the other albums please!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

...and start a new one, edward! Preferably some Croatian dance-pop, if you will :-)

Il Duce (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't think if I did a Vesna Pisarovic or Colonia album anyone would be able to take part.

But how about one of the most canonical pop elpees of the 90s?

Time for another canonical pop elpee, methinks.

1. Spice Up Your Life
2. Stop
3. Too Much
4. Saturday Night Divas
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8. Denying
9. Viva Forever
10. Lady Is A Vamp

Someone else can take the first one off...

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Haha this'll be interesting. I'll hold off for a while. But rules are rules Edward, you have to go first!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Lady Is A Vamp may be worse, but it's funnier than "Saturday Night Divas". SND is the only really ordinary/average thing on there.

1. Spice Up Your Life
2. Stop
3. Too Much
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8. Denying
9. Viva Forever
10. Lady Is A Vamp

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm off for the afternoon in a few minutes but not before I remove a song I had completely forgotten even existed.

1. Spice Up Your Life
2. Stop
3. Too Much
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8.
9. Viva Forever
10. Lady Is A Vamp

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I always expected "Denying" would have been the fifth single if Geri hadn't left.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

I have to remove lady is a vamp. It shouldn't be there at the end when some people decide that spice up your life or viva forever are not the essence!!!

1. Spice Up Your Life
2. Stop
3. Too Much
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8.
9. Viva Forever
10.

Arnault (arc73hk), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

What a great thread! ILX CAN be used for good!

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3. Let's Push Things Forward
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5. Same Old Thing
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7. It's Too Late
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13.
14. Stay Positive

Don't Mug Yourself is a comedy throwaway and I don't like it and it is NOT the essence. Money's on 7 or 14.

steviespitfire, Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

(random and currently irrelevant qn which might crop up later: in the event of someone nominating a hip hop or r&b album with intros, skits &c &c, should we just take all of them off by default to evade boredom?)

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

The intros and interludes got removed from "Robyn" so I reckon yes.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if this thread/idea is really good or not.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Nice way to finish the record but not the essence IMO

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5. Same Old Thing
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7. It's Too Late
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Laney, Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

"hero of the war" is a little jaunty; i agree with tom's assessment scott4, but would add that funny isnt exactly the essence of the album, either.

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5 Boy Child
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7 The Old Man's Back Again
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10 Rhymes of Goodbye

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Spice Girls ballads released as singles: no.

1. Spice Up Your Life
2. Stop
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8.
9. Viva Forever
10.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Ouch!

vinegar (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Rhymes of Goodbye indeed: see ya later. Both Old Man and Boy Child are more essential than Rhymes because the former has that scat singing which is one of the album's signatures, and the latter is the thematic heart of not just this album but all of Scott Walker.1
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7 The Old Man's Back Again
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ygs, Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

oh for fucks sake, Too Much pwns half of that album (esp. Viva Forever, also a ballad single)!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

I've started many a pub fight arguing that 2Become1 is the best ballad ever. Spice Girls ballad singles = teh bombz.

vinegar (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

I disapprove of Dom's thesis ('Viva Forever' and '2 Become 1' pwn all) but don't mind 'Too Much' being booted off.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Also, I suspected "Too Much" might win! One of their best...

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

ygs is correct. i LOVE "the old man's back again" because it yokes disparate ideas together and makes a baffling song about them. but bnoy child is the essence here whereas "The old man's back" was a taste of things to come.

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jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

im just getting a tracklisting for my choice, hold on.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

good result with scott 4! i might like "rhymes" and "duchess" better, but i can recognize that that is because im sappy. "boy child" pwns!

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

For those of us who don't know enough about the spice girls....

Blonde on Blonde

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2. Pledging My Tme
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8. Just Like A Woman
9. Most Likely You Go Your Way And I’ll Go Mine
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14. Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

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3. Let's Push Things Forward
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5. Same Old Thing
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i love every track on this album, but no way is the proto-'Dry Your Eyes' gonna win!

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Another case of the proto pwning it's successor there.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

let's begin by banning the 37-minute ending track, that ain't no essence jack

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2. Pledging My Tme
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8. Just Like A Woman
9. Most Likely You Go Your Way And I’ll Go Mine
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

yer cannae start a new one until you close an existing one.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

well, now that my first choice for essence is gone, ill take out what must be the most BORING song on blonde on blonde.

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2. Pledging My Tme
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8. Just Like A Woman
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

incidentally... i mean, i had no delusions that sad eyed lady would get very far, but COME ON! dont fool yourself! this is the essence of bob dylan! one of the most essential songs ever! its purer than you! that is all.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

ok - lets push things forward, then.

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dylan time!

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

*sigh* well we have quite a few on the go but i DID at least finish one and i've been waiting a while to suggest this one.


The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4. To Zion
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6. Superstar
7. Final Hour
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11. Every Ghetto, Every City
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15. Can't Take My Eyes Off You
16. Tell Him

I'll get rid of the intro straight off and ask you not to forget the last track that, even though it's not on the tracklisting, is a good contender for the essence. it's gorgeous.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4. To Zion
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6. Superstar
7. Final Hour
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15. Can't Take My Eyes Off You
16. Tell Him

used to be my favorite track on the album, but its way simpler than the album as a whole.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

one of my faves too.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

I always skip track 2.

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8. Just Like A Woman
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Something about it really, really bugs me. Not sure what, though.

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6. Superstar
7. Final Hour
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15. Can't Take My Eyes Off You
16. Tell Him

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6. Superstar
7. Final Hour
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16. Tell Him

to be honest i'm surprised it lasted this long!

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

it really is amazing how few tracks I can bear to remove from this. I guess 'Superstar' is about as unnecessary as you get though. Thanks for reminding me to dig it out again...

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7. Final Hour
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16. Tell Him

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

"Just Like a Woman" hasnt stood the test of time for me, and doesnt capture the album's feeling as well as the others...

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

daveheaton, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Words cannot express the loathing I feel for "Rainy Day Women", a song that single-handedly stopped me having any interest in Dylan for years:

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

i like you but you are not the essence.
1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13. Obviously 5 Believers
14.

carly (carly), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)


5 believers... minus me.

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12. 4th Time Around
13.
14.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Leaving now. But not before kicking off a song which, while probably (OK definitely) not the worst of what's left, is certainly not the essence.

1.
2. Stop
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8.
9. Viva Forever
10.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

It's just too ... dinky.

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11.
12. 4th Time Around
13.
14.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

"Final Hour"'s a decent track but doesnt capture the essence of the album...

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10. Forgive Them Father
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16. Tell Him

daveheaton, Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

should i remind y'all we have 2 shots for double albums...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Still getting rid of obvious ones - "4th Time Around" obviously not as good as songs 3, 4, and 6

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10. Temporary Like Achilles
11. Absolutely Sweet Marie
12.
13.
14.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

barry axed "sweet marie" already, and ill use my second go to get ride of "temporary like achilles," which leaves us with a potent foursome.

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4. One Of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I absolutely detest "Viva Forever".

1.
2. Stop
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7. Do It
8.
9.
10.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

It's not that it's bad, it's just not as good as the 3 that are left.

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4.
5. I Want You
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Aw man, you axed that over "I Want You?"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

3,4,5,6 was the greatest section of album ever. i really miss 4 now.

carly (carly), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Forgive Them Father doesn't quite cut it. (Ex-Factor had better win this!)

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16. Tell Him

jonny, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm tempted to axe "Move Over" based on some archaic rule relating to songs used in commercials being disqualified from being the essence of anything, but I think the Spice Girls would have to be the exception to that rule. So "Do It" will go instead.

1.
2. Stop
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7.
8.
9.
10.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Anyhow, "Spiceworld" is ruined now that "Viva Forever" is gone [sorry Mike:(], but there's obviously a big divide here over SG ballads so its not like we were going to achieve any semblance of consensus anyway.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

"Tell Him" is just so fucking wonderful, isn't it?

However, it is also a bonus track, and not typical of the rest of the album.

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8. When It Hurts So Bad
9. I Used To Love Him
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

It's good, but whatever.

1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4.
5.
6. Stuck Inside of Mobile With the Memphis Blues Again
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

never giving up on the good times, i took the pepsi challenge and won. now i just can't "Stop"

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6. Move Over
7.
8.
9.
10.

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

ok, i'll finish this by making my dylan's all time fav win !


1.
2.
3. Visions of Johanna
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)


now, let's "do" kels' TP3 !
"love is what we makin" annoys me... + it's the only track with a female's voice so not the essence.


1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4. Slow wind
5. Put my t-shirt on
6. Remote control
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8. Reaggae bump bump
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12. Sex weed
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18. Trapped in the closet chapter 4
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

"Touchin'" features female vocals also ...

I'm going to strike "Sex Weed" ... I know it's an R. Kelly album and all, but by that point in the album, all I'm thinking is "OK, you're horny, I GET IT, now bring on "Trapped In the Closet".

1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4. Slow wind
5. Put my t-shirt on
6. Remote control
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8. Reaggae bump bump
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18. Trapped in the closet chapter 4
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

(this is a fascinating album choice for this thread, btw)

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Any of the remaining songs could be the essence, but "When It Hurts So Bad" is so slow that it bores me

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9. I Used To Love Him
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14. The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
15.
16.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

"Slow Wind" was better when it was "Slow Wine" by Tony Toni Tone Tonu Tona.

1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6. Remote control
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8. Reaggae bump bump
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18. Trapped in the closet chapter 4
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

"The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill" is a good closer but it doesn't hold up as well on its own.

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9. I Used To Love Him
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14.
15.
16.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

(Ex-Factor had better win this!)

OTM

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm holding out for "everything is everything" now that "miseducation..." is gone.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah - "miseducation" was probably my choice, even though it doesnt sound exactly like the rest.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

let's not forget about this game. i'm taking out this one because i think i agree with you guys about what it should come down to at this point.

1.
2. Lost Ones
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14.
15.
16.

carly (carly), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Bye, "Lost Ones."

1.
2.
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12. Nothing Even Matters
13. Everything Is Everything
14.
15.
16.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

It's not you, "Nothing Even Matters." It's me.

1.
2.
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Everything Is Everything
14.
15.
16.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

this is a very good final three.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

i'm sorry pete, but only one can win.

carly (carly), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

While we're waiting for Lauryn Hill and Mr. Kelly to finish up, this one should go fast.

What is the essence of Slanted and Enchanted?

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2. Trigger Cut
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9. Here
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12. Fame Throwa
13. Jackals, False Grails: The Lonesome Era
14. Our Singer

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

unpopular but soooooooo needs to happen!

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2. Trigger Cut
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12. Fame Throwa
13. Jackals, False Grails: The Lonesome Era
14. Our Singer

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

The person who eventually whittles it down to a single track [...] posts the next album track listing

Will you stop jumping the gun!

vinegar (Koens), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)


never much cared for Trigger Cut.

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12. Fame Throwa
13. Jackals, False Grails: The Lonesome Era
14. Our Singer

Garrett Martin (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

R. put the R in R&B, but doesn't cut it with the "Reggae Bump, Bump"

1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6. Remote control
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18. Trapped in the closet chapter 4
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

"Will you stop jumping the gun!"

No. Not when the friggin' Spice Girls are taking all day to complete.

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12. Fame Throwa
13.
14. Our Singer

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

You all are starting with the wrong songs!

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12. Fame Throwa
13.
14.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

see, now YOU just picked the wrong song!

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Someone's gotta start on the closets, and "Chapter 4" really is the filler in this mildly entertaining radio drama.

1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6. Remote control
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18.
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh come on:

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10. Two States
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

And someone please goddamn knock Two States off as well.

Derek Krissoff (Derek), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe "here" was the first one cut.

"Two States" is just too insubstantial. away it goes.

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7. Chesley’s Little Wrists
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

"Chesley’s Little Wrists", kind of an annoying song compared to the others...

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6. Zurich Is Stained
7.
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

daveheaton, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

"Someone's gotta start on the closets, and "Chapter 4" really is the filler in this mildly entertaining radio drama."

With all respect, are you insane? Chapter 4 is the best...it's absolute genius that he takes the time to have a full-on Lover Man sex scene. The sex scene is my favorite part of the whole thing.....baby go deeper!

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

i guess i just feel like "here" isnt snarly or joyful or noisy or kitchen-sink-y or ramshackle enough to really be the essence of the album. its a great song, but it just seems like wistfulness, without any of the cheeky charm (god i feel so gay) or noisy parts of the album respresented. its CLEARLY not the worst/least-essential song on the album, but its definitely the most-overrated song on the album.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

oh wait! did dom really cut the "leg cramp" chapter??

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

auf wiedersehen Zurich. The song is beautiful and sometimes makes me cry "don't hold them hangin'" but it's doesn't represent the period or the album particularly well.

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4. In The Mouth of a Desert
5. Conduit for Sale!
6.
7.
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Aaron A, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

If you think poorly written songs are the essence of Pavement then you might want "In the Mouth of a Desert" to stay. Otherwise ...

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4.
5. Conduit for Sale!
6.
7.
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

(I had to listen to it to remember what it sounded like.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Someone more jaded than I would gleefully say to the world that the essence of S&E was ripping off The Fall, but I'm better than that.

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Loretta’s Scars
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

one pick per album! (although i agree that "conduit" might should go...)

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.

Doesn't hold up as well to repeat listens. There's a reason why the other 2 songs were singles before this one.

R. Greene, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Ex-Factor >>>>> Doo-Wop, btw

R. Greene, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

bye bye "fake nails done by Koreans"

1.
2.
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Too drone-ing

1. Summer Babe (Winter Version)
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Laney, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Okay, thread baggage, but I'm tired of the most obvious pop song being the sole survivor, so there goes Summer Babe.

Only hard choices remain...


1.
2.
3. No Life Singed Her
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

ps xpost w' cutting of loretta, which I then pulled.

So, make that "hard choice"

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

petesmith totally OTM about "Here"!

Meanwhile, look out!

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Perfume-V
12.
13.
14.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Since a couple have wraped up....

Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome

1. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
2. Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk (Pay Attention - B3M)
3. Wizard of Finance
4. Funkentelechy
5. Placebo Syndrome
6. Flashlight

R.Greene, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

There's an essence I can get 100% behind, jaymc.

xpost re: slanted obv.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

wow, tough one. I'm pulling "Wizard of Finance" cause i like the others better

1. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
2. Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk (Pay Attention - B3M)
3.
4. Funkentelechy
5. Placebo Syndrome
6. Flashlight

daveheaton, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

great lauryn result! though to be honest that album is so great I would've been happy if half the songs had won inc 'Lost Ones' which is maybe most underrated song evah.

however, how the hell did spiceworld come down to THIS? i thought by booting 'spice up your life' i'd be paving the way for a 'stop' v 'viva forever' finale, both results i'd've been happy with. however my cunning tactics failed to factor in HATAZ and MENTALISTS. so you know, whatever: 'move over' has rawk guitars and thus cannot ever be the essence of the spice girls.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Never Give Up On The Good Times
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

As Lex hasn't chosen another album yet, I'll put in the album he undoubtedly was about to pick anyway:

1. I Ain't The One
2. Tuesday's Gone
3. Gimme Three Steps
4. Simple Man
5. Things Goin' On
6. Mississippi Kid
7. Poison Whiskey
8. Free Bird

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Can't do it, Sir Nose. You may be the essence of Clinton's coke habit, but you ain't the essence of the album.

1. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
2.
3.
4. Funkentelechy
5. Placebo Syndrome
6. Flashlight

js (honestengine), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

this thread needs some of the boy dizz. not boy in da corner though, too predictable. therefore:

Dizzee Rascal, Showtime

1 Showtime
2 Stand Up Tall
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7 Face
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11 Dream
12 Girls
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

'Face' = zzz.

1 Showtime
2 Stand Up Tall
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11 Dream
12 Girls
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

oi! dom! i just needed some typing time! i don't even know that album anyway. is it by john wayne?

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

1. I Ain't The One
2. Tuesday's Gone
3. Gimme Three Steps
4. Simple Man
5. Things Goin' On
6. Mississippi Kid
7. Poison Whiskey
8.

If Free Bird is your essence of the album, you should be listening to the live version anyway. Besides, that bird cannot change.

js (honestengine), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The sex puns just don't do it for me.

1. Playa's only
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6.
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18.
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

sean gramophone (Sean M), Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

too many albums people calm down!!!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

too many people ignoring the rule which says that the person who ended the last album starts the new one!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

But the sex pun IS the essence of R. Kelly. The forced club song, however, is not.

1.
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6.
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18.
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

R. Greene, Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

Someone was going to do it...

1 Showtime
2 Stand Up Tall
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11
12 Girls
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

a picture of a fat girl hugging Rick Perry, awesome (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

The essence of Skynyrd isn't boogie, therefore...

1. I Ain't The One
2. Tuesday's Gone
3.
4. Simple Man
5. Things Goin' On
6. Mississippi Kid
7. Poison Whiskey
8.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

"Perfume-V" YES!!!

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 29 September 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Whoever mentioned the rule about starters being the ones who did the last cut, OTFM!!!!

As for Dizzee, "Girls" is too poor a song to be the essence of such a good album.

1 Showtime
2 Stand Up Tall
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11
12
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

P.S. Who the fuck is Marga Man?

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

I think I may have heard Flashlight, oh, about 200 times too many.

1. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
2.
3.
4. Funkentelechy
5. Placebo Syndrome
6.

casey (t. fiend), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Kind of a weak single.

1 Showtime
2
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11
12
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

1. Bop Gun (Endangered Species)
2.
3.
4. Funkentelechy
5.
6.

Well, "Placebo Syndrome" is just too slow.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 September 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

I suppose it's inevitable:

1. Wouldn't It Be Nice
2. You Still Believe In Me
3. That's Not Me
4. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
5. I'm Waiting For The Day
6. Let's Go Away For Awhile
7. Sloop John B
8. God Only Knows
9. I Know There's An Answer
10. Here Today
11. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12. Pet Sounds
13. Caroline No

mike a, Friday, 30 September 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

"Sloop John B" is not the album's essence.

1. Wouldn't It Be Nice
2. You Still Believe In Me
3. That's Not Me
4. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
5. I'm Waiting For The Day
6. Let's Go Away For Awhile
7.
8. God Only Knows
9. I Know There's An Answer
10. Here Today
11. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12. Pet Sounds
13. Caroline No

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

1. Wouldn't It Be Nice
2. You Still Believe In Me
3. That's Not Me
4. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
5. I'm Waiting For The Day
6. Let's Go Away For Awhile
7.
8. God Only Knows
9. I Know There's An Answer
10.
11. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12. Pet Sounds
13. Caroline No

"Here Today" doesn't really fit here - it's the most conventional boy-girl song on the whole album.

I actually think "Sloop John B" fits the mood perfectly, but I know that's a minority view.

mike a, Friday, 30 September 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

AGH! Tim beat me to it!

I'll take off the titular, then..

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3 That's Not Me
4 Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6 Let's Go Away For Awhile
7
8 God Only Knows
9 I Know There's An Answer
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

I root for "Here Today," "That's Not Me" or "I Know There's an Answer" w/ this one. OK, or "Caroline No."

x-post "Here Today" already gone. I can live w/ that.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

Nice song, but it's not one of the best.

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3 That's Not Me
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6 Let's Go Away For Awhile
7
8 God Only Knows
9 I Know There's An Answer
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

mike a took off "Here Today."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

I'll take out one I can't remember:

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3 That's Not Me
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8 God Only Knows
9 I Know There's An Answer
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 30 September 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4. Funkentelechy
5.
6.

The part where Bop Gun starts repeating the same two bars over and over for the better part of 2 minutes grates. The fadeout-in-out is kinda nifty though.

R. Greene, Friday, 30 September 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

I'll take out one I can't remember:

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3 That's Not Me
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8 God Only Knows
9
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 30 September 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

That's Not Me was the only one to feature the BBs playing instruments, I think. The whole essence of PS is BW getting tons of top session players in to shape it, so TNM must go.

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8 God Only Knows
9
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 30 September 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

A PLEA FOR SANITY! We're now on four or five albums, and the thread is getting a bit less enjoyable cos its hard to remember what's being done or not (or maybe that's just me). Can I request that if you have a really good idea for a record you either:

- wait to finish one and start another!
- suggest it but don't actually start it and then maybe someone will think "ooh, good idea"

Sorry to be all arsey and bureaucratic about it.

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2 You Still Believe In Me
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8
9
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

And just to make myself even more enemies I'm cutting God Only Knows, not because I dislike it, though I need to be in just the right mood for it, but because it seems to me it has a life away from the album, it can stand alone as a beautiful thing and an album as holistic as Pet Sounds needs something else as the essence.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8
9
10 Here Today
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

Is it permissible to interfere in albums you can't stands to listen to no more? Get out "You Still Believe In Me", Mike Love was right.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

I just like the others more.

1 Wouldn't It Be Nice
2
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8
9
10
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

As the thread's originator, I'm glad it's been such a hit but I have to concur with Tom, that with too many albums on the go at the same time it loses focus and interest. One, or at the most two albums at the same time would be best! Maybe it'd be good if no one posted more albums until we're down to one, and then the original rule kicks in that the person who makes the final pick gets to post the next track listing.

ygs, Friday, 30 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

I should have taken out "Wouldn't It Be Nice", it's far too jolly and not nearly self-pitying enough to be the essence of "Pet Sounds"

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

which albums are actually on the go right now? beach boys, dizzee rascal, r kelly...a couple of others i don't recognise offhand?

r kelly isn't going to progress AT ALL until the americans wake up!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Beach Boys, Dizzee, R Kelly, Lynyrd Skynrd (which also won't progress pre-Americans)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm too busy too go through the thread to locate all the unfinished albums right now... if there's anyone out there with time on their hands who wants to do that and repost the remaining tracklists, we could start whittling the number down to a manageable amount.

ygs, Friday, 30 September 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

1
2
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8
9
10
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13 Caroline No

Dadaismus OTM.

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i agree that this thread's gone a bit outta control...the price of success !
we should definitely stop starting new albums for now... and people need to follow the rules ! (funny how the ones who've been playing since the start are obsessed with order...)

r kelly isn't going to progress AT ALL until the americans wake up!

yeah that's sad... not enough love for kels in ol'europe...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah that's sad... not enough love for kels in ol'europe...

Thank God for it.

zeus (zeus), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

hum..non of my favourites left... caroline is not dynamic and complex enough to be the essence. go grow your hair !

1
2
3
4
5 I'm Waiting For The Day
6
7
8
9
10
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

yeah that's sad... not enough love for kels in ol'europe...

You call him Kels, we call him Rs

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

weel, i'm in ol'europe, you know. i'm actually more in all europe than you brits !
(i was thinking that brian's caroline may have changed because she met kels at a party - or anywhere, knowing R !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a brit, maaan, please.

zeus (zeus), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

"I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" is the RIGHT ANSWER.
And just to be sporting, I'm going to selflessly pass up on nomming a new album.

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11 I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
12
13

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

"hu" : hungary, right ?
peace ! (still, not enough love for kels in hungary)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Here's where we're up to on the other three:

Dizzee Rascal:
1 Showtime
2
3 Everywhere
4 Graftin'
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11
12
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

Lynyrd Skynyrd:
1. I Ain't The One
2. Tuesday's Gone
3.
4. Simple Man
5. Things Goin' On
6. Mississippi Kid
7. Poison Whiskey
8.

R.Kelly:
1.
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6.
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18.
19. Trapped in the closet chapter 5

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 30 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

(No, me neither. Ah well.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

As far as albums go, it gets off to a really really weak start

1.
2. Tuesday's Gone
3.
4. Simple Man
5. Things Goin' On
6. Mississippi Kid
7. Poison Whiskey
8.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

AleXTC: OK, right.

zeus (zeus), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Trapped is an all-or-nothing affair so can't really be the essence of TP3 and the chp 5 is a bit boring:

R.Kelly:
1.
2. Happy summertime
3. In the kitchen
4.
5. Put my t-shirt on
6.
7. Kickin' it with your girlfriend
8.
9. Touchin'
10. Girls go crazy
11. Hit it till the mornin'
12.
13.
14. Burn it up
15. Trapped in the closet chapter 1
16. Trapped in the closet chapter 2
17. Trapped in the closet chapter 3
18.
19.

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Depeche Mode, "Violator"

1. World In My Eyes
2. Sweetest Perfection
3. Personal Jesus
4. Halo
5. Waiting For The Night
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8. Blue Dress
9. Clean

AdrianB (AdrianB), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Mike Oldfield

"Tubular Bells"

1. Tubular Bells 1
2. Tubular Bells 2

1 is overplayed and overfamiliar.

2 wins.

Wheee. OK back to youz.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

1. World In My Eyes
2.
3. Personal Jesus
4. Halo
5. Waiting For The Night
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8. Blue Dress
9. Clean

Sweetest perfection has to go. no classic dm chorus, too long and the ending gets me to press skip each time.
2 great singles from violator dont represent at all the album. I wonder how long they will stay

Arnault (arc73hk), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

I guess us yoorpeens can't sit on our hands waiting for the merkins to wake up... so, waiting for the night, too slow compared to the rest of the album.

1. World In My Eyes
2.
3. Personal Jesus
4. Halo
5.
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8. Blue Dress
9. Clean

ledge (ledge), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

i am even earlier than yoorpeens since im in aiseea. the night has come here already
.

Arnault (arc73hk), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. Personal Jesus
4. Halo
5.
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8. Blue Dress
9. Clean

I've never liked World In My Eyes as much as the other tracks.

AdrianB (AdrianB), Friday, 30 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Dreary album, laughable track.

1.
2.
3.
4. Halo
5.
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8. Blue Dress
9. Clean

Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

for some reason i'm really shocked that tom doesn't like 'personal jesus'!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

*Trying desperately not to get involved in albums by bands I hate*

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

To be honest I was a bit harsh on the album, it's not too bad and a couple of the tracks are great, but at the time I thought "Personal Jesus" was just embarassing, Gahan sounding all snarly and such, and the years of ghastly 'rock' experiments since haven't done much to soften me.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

i love 'personal jesus', this is from the perspective of only knowing it and 'enjoy the silence' off this album though. even then i heard the respective j cash and t amos covers first.

there's a track on the new sugababes album which completely rips off 'personal jesus'.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

I like one other song remaining less than this, but that other one is more likely to be essence.

1.
2.
3.
4. Halo
5.
6. Enjoy The Silence
7. Policy Of Truth
8.
9. Clean

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Policy Of Truth is very much the third single from this album.

1.
2.
3.
4. Halo
5.
6. Enjoy The Silence
7.
8.
9. Clean

Buffalo Stan (Buffalo Stan), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Much much overplayed and reminds me a bit too much of early 90's dance parties, so:

1.
2.
3.
4. Halo
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Clean

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I think that Halo is a more better composition, then:

1.
2.
3.
4. Halo
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

antonio, Friday, 30 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Like everyone rediscovered with the Ewan pearson remix of last year, Enjoy the Silence is NEVER underplayed.
This is a great single and the essence at the album (reflecting the oppressive overall feeling).
Arghhhhhh

Arnault (arc73hk), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

I think the same but....

Another cool album:

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3. Closedown
4. Love Song
5. Last Dance
6. Lullaby
7. Fascination Street
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11. Homesick
12. Untitled

This is very difficult for me, but i think Last Dance is not at the same height that the rest. So:

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3. Closedown
4. Love Song
5.
6. Lullaby
7. Fascination Street
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11. Homesick
12. Untitled

antonio, Friday, 30 September 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Don't even know what album this is

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Can't we just cut to where 2-4-7 are still standing ;-)

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3. Closedown
4. Love Song
5.
6. Lullaby
7. Fascination Street
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

vinegar (Koens), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Agreed, Koen!

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3.
4. Love Song
5.
6. Lullaby
7. Fascination Street
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Ah, I'd have pegged you as a "Lullaby" man.

vinegar (Koens), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

The mind boggles at the absurdity of the choices so far...

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7. Fascination Street
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Booo!

vinegar (Koens), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Fascination street = too rockin'

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of You
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

ledge (ledge), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

-- ledge (tomdotledge...) (webmail), Today 1:37 PM. (later) (link)

Did somebody say "Cut 2/4/7" ?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Woops, not sure what happened then... 2 is still there, kids.

1. Plainsong
2. Pictures of you
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

ledge (ledge), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh no I am just being a fool - damn you with your cutting and pasting!

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10. Disintegration
11.
12. Untitled

Heavy sigh

ledge (ledge), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. Lullaby
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10.
11.
12. Untitled

I feel like "Disintegration" is harrowing and climactic, whereas most everything else on there is a bit slower. A good song (hah, didn't used to think so), but it stands out too much.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Incredible. You are all teh mentalists.

vinegar (Koens), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

But Disintegration is now *up* 5 places in my 80s album list, so yay!

vinegar (Koens), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

"Disintegration"'s all about that opening track for me, plus "Prayers for Rain" and some songs that have already left us. Goodbye, "Lullaby"

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9. The Same Deep Water As You
10.
11.
12. Untitled

daveheaton, Friday, 30 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Man, somehow me taking off "Lullaby" just killed this thread DEAD. Or maybe it's just cause it's Friday.

daveheaton, Friday, 30 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Disintegration almost passed me by! This album flows so well it's like a story, which makes it very difficult to say which song is it's true essence. Those four left could all represent it very well, but although I love it, and although it's one of Robert Smith's favorite, "The Same Deep Water as You" could be a bit long for the uninitiated. Here we go:

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. Prayers For Rain
9.
10.
11.
12. Untitled

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Friday, 30 September 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

To me "Plainsong" is so obviously the best song out of the three left, but I can only cut one. So I guess it'll be "Prayers for Rain", which has never been one of my favourites on this album.

1. Plainsong
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12. Untitled

Ross Godfrey (scatter), Saturday, 1 October 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

Cut 'Untitled', keep 'Plainsong'.

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 October 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

(Crazy frigging thread, though - and I think I would find it hard to contribute as I can't make lists of things on ilx without line spaces between them.)

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 October 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Name an album PF and I can do the listing if you like.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 1 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Can we do D.I Go Pop?

Googley Asearch (Toaster), Saturday, 1 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Tom E.

The thread is still bizarre, no? eg: it needs at least 10 or so people to know the LP well, in order to process it. And are they not upset by each other's choices? In what sense is a decision made, as x number of people are involved, and presumably no-one agrees with everyone else's choices? I don't think I see how the thread is getting to the pure essence of LPs.

If you would still like me to name one, I nominate U2: The Unforgettable Fire; perhaps for some future date?

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 October 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah, PF - you have a point. the fun thing to me about the game is considering an album from a different standpoint than the one youre used to, which is what i find myself having to do when someone eliminates what i had always considered the essence of the album. DEFINITELY the process is way more interesting than the final decision; i wouldnt have voted for many of the tracks that have won. but its just cool to get a POV shift in these albums that youve been listening to forever...

petesmith (plsmith), Saturday, 1 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

PF - Rattlesnakes?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Okay, let's try to tackle Outkast's best album then...

1. Hold On, Be Strong
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9. Da Art Of Storytellin'...
10. Da Art Of Storytellin'...
11. Mamacita
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14. Nathaniel
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire


Let's start by removing the intro and the skit, since I don't think anyone thinks they're the essence of the album.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9. Da Art Of Storytellin'...
10. Da Art Of Storytellin'...
11. Mamacita
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

(Others should remove one track at a time though.)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Here's one I only just remembered. Drop "Beautiful One", "After All", and "Celia Inside" from The Cardigans' "Life", and you've got the best retro-pop album ever made.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Fuck it. track 9 and 10's titles are cut off. Here are the full titles.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9. Da Art Of Storytellin' (Part 1)
10. Da Art Of Storytellin' (Part 2)
11. Mamacita
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

You should remove the other tracks as well, while you're about it. That would be good.

Doc: yes.

the pinefox, Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9. Da Art Of Storytellin' (Part 1)
10. Da Art Of Storytellin' (Part 2)
11.
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

I love yelling "PappaDONNA!" but otherwise that songs is kind of wack.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9. Da Art Of Storytellin' (Part 1)
10.
11.
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

ill remove 10. Why have part 2 when you can have part 1?

splates (splates), Saturday, 1 October 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, I love Part 2... Part 1 is probably better lyricswise, but Part 2 has a disturbing, downright creepy feel to it that makes it intriguing.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 2 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I was almost certain that the first track to be removed would be "Mamacita", and it was. That's the only really weak track on an otherwise brilliant record.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 2 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

art of pt2 >>>>> art of pt1!

petesmith (plsmith), Sunday, 2 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9.
10.
11.
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13. Y'All Scared
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

petesmith (plsmith), Sunday, 2 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

No storytelling? just for that, i'm removing y'all scared.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9.
10.
11.
12. SpottieOttieDopaliscious
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

can't we at least have two at a time? k thx.

1. You
2. Creep
3. How Do You?
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6. Anyone Can Play Guitar
7. Ripcord
8. Vegetable
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11. Lurgee
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

i take out 'lurgee' b/c i don't remember it, so...

1. You
2. Creep
3. How Do You?
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6. Anyone Can Play Guitar
7. Ripcord
8. Vegetable
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

Aaron A, Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Irritating nonsense.

1. You
2. Creep
3. How Do You?
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6. Anyone Can Play Guitar
7. Ripcord
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8. West Savannah
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

sean gramophone (Sean M), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I've always thought the second half of this shat all over the first, so if something goes, it has to be one of the first five or six. Gotta be "How Do You?".

1. You
2. Creep
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6. Anyone Can Play Guitar
7. Ripcord
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 2 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

1. You
2. Creep
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6.
7. Ripcord
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

So much crap on this album that I'll just take out one of the most annoying.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 2 October 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Hehehe.

1. You
2.
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6.
7. Ripcord
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

Sym Sym (sym), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

(untitled) - (hidden track) - what is this and why have I never heard of it? That's too easy a choice though, so instead... hmm, 1 or 7? Toss a coin... it's Ripcord.

1. You
2.
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6.
7.
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10. I Can't
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

ledge (ledge), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Dizzee Rascal:
1 Showtime
2
3 Everywhere
4
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10 Knock Knock
11
12
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle


I thought 'Graftin' was quite weak as a single in the end, nice moody bassline and good delivery at times but just not enuff.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 3 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

The untitled hidden track, at least on mine, was another version of Creep (I think it was the radio edit).

js (honestengine), Monday, 3 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

The beats on "West Savannah" are too low-key to be considered the essence of Aquemini. Really thought "SpottieOttieDopaliscious" or "Da Art Of Storytellin'" would make it to the end.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4. Skew It On The Bar-B
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Gregory T (tubesocks), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh these albums are getting too obscure for me. (i.e. I haven't got them)

Next up: the ILE vol 2 CD.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)


'Skew It...' goes because it follows one of this act's best ever tracks, and though this may or may not be enough to qualify 'Rosa Parks' as 'Aquemini's essence, it's enough to make me think 'Skew It...' can shove it.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3. Rosa Parks
4.
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm pulling "Rosa Parks"...it's a fantastic single, one of the best Outkast tracks ever, and a great party jam, but there's a vibe to "Aquemini" as a whole which other tracks are more representative of, so I dont think it's the essence.

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3.
4.
5. Aquemini
6. Synthesizer
7. Slump
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

daveheaton, Monday, 3 October 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, George

1.
2. Return Of The "G"
3.
4.
5. Aquemini
6.
7. Slump
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Good song. But Aquemini is not about the return of the gangsta.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Aquemini
6.
7. Slump
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

michael jackson - thriller - wanna be startin' somethin'
janet jackson - control - pleasure principle
kylie - enjoy yourself - tell tale signs
bon jovi - slippery when wet - social disease
bon jovi - new jersey - homebound train

retroboy, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

there's too many albums now, and I just know that someone's gonna start a new one as soon as we finish Aquemini.. but hey.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. Aquemini
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Love the song, but Cool Breze and Backbone aren't the essence of Aquemini.


xpost - retroboy: hmmm.

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

this might be the one where title track = essence

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

I want Chonkyfire to be the winner. Good title that.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Liberation
16. Chonkyfire

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Damn, the title really is the essence of Aquemini. But out of those two the winner should be rather obvious.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Damn you, Dr. C!

Guy Incognito (Guy Incognito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

"title track"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

better reasons people...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

why?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

how many choices do people agree with so far? bearing in mind it's 'essence of' not 'best track', as problematic as this proposal seems to be? ah who cares...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

... that's the spirit!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Y'know, I really think that the title IS the essence. But playing along with the game, I'll take the psych-inflected Chonkyfire...


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16. Chonkyfire

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

New album: T. Rex's Electric Warrior (seemed like a good mix of number of tracks and wide familiarity)

1- Mambo Sun
2- Cosmic Dancer
3- Jeepster
4- Monolith
5- Lean Woman Blues
6- Bang A Gong (Get It On)
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11- Rip Off

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Will somebody please put an album in here that I actually own???

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

you don't have electric warrior?

Almost every track is A+ great!

1- Mambo Sun
2- Cosmic Dancer
3- Jeepster
4-
5- Lean Woman Blues
6- Bang A Gong (Get It On)
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11- Rip Off

Old School (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

I've been sleeping since I heard that song

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5- Lean Woman Blues
6- Bang A Gong (Get It On)
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11- Rip Off

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

works as an afterthought/"encore", not as the essence

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5- Lean Woman Blues
6- Bang A Gong (Get It On)
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11-

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)


"Lean Woman Blues" has great vocals, but the music really is too generic-bluesy.

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5-
6- Bang A Gong (Get It On)
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11-

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I'd be happy with 4 of the remaining 7 songs being the essence.

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

is there something wrong with me if i like the slider better than electric warrior?

carly (carly), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't agree but the Slider is still classic, so no there's nothing wrong with you.

it was a different shark (wetmink2), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Get It On (I can't call it Bang A Gong - I've known it as Get It On since it came out. The orig single was called Get It On. On my copy of Elec Warrior it says Get It On. So Get It On it is.) goes, great as it is, because it's too BIG, too lush for this album. EW is all about close-miked, stripped-down boogie, and there's too much happening in Get It On for it to be the essence.

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5-
6-
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10- Life's A Gas
11-


Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Where are the 'Showtime' fans?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5-
6-
7- Planet Queen
8- Girl
9- The Motivator
10-
11-

Laney, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Good song, kind of reminds me of Bowie for some reason, but it just doesn't have the boogie vibe that the essence of this album has to have.

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3- Jeepster
4-
5-
6-
7- Planet Queen
8-
9- The Motivator
10-
11-

Schade (Schade), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Heh. It's getting tougher, innit? There are still two that I think could go pretty quickly.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3-
4-
5-
6-
7- Planet Queen
8-
9- The Motivator
10-
11-

Pelé & Sebastian, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

d'oh

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Back to Radiohead. Nixing "I Can't" because, well, it's not very good, is it? I haven't heard the hidden untitled extra thingy because I bought Pablo Honey when I was a vinyl saddo.

1. You
2.
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6.
7.
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10.
11.
12. Blow Out
13. (untitled) - (hidden track)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Ailsa: The hidden track, at least on mine, was just the radio edit of Creep. Which was one of those rare edits that's better than the regular (sweary) version.

js (honestengine), Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

"Knock Knock" is gone just because I think it's the weakest remaining track.

Dizzee Rascal:
1 Showtime
2
3 Everywhere
4
5 Learn
6 Hype Talk
7
8 Respect Me
9 Get By
10
11
12
13 Imagine
14 Flyin'
15 Fickle

Schade (Schade), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Radio edit of "Creep" is not the essence.

1. You
2.
3.
4. Stop Whispering
5. Thinking About You
6.
7.
8.
9. Prove Yourself
10.
11.
12. Blow Out
13.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

Has this thread died enough to let me take another whack at Radiohead? Although, honestly, the essence of that album WAS the radio edit of Creep. Not the best track, maybe, but the essence.

js (honestengine), Saturday, 8 October 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Sounds WAY too much to Bang a gong. Get it off.

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3-
4-
5-
6-
7- Planet Queen
8-
9-
10-
11-

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 8 October 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

easy

1- Mambo Sun
2-
3-
4-
5-
6-
7-
8-
9-
10-
11-

Aaron A, Sunday, 9 October 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

YAY! Mambo Sun wins!

Pick an album, Aaron!

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

how about a puressence album?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

How about....

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3. Living in the World Today
4. Gold
5. Cold World
6. Labels
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10. Investigative Reports
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3. Living in the World Today
4. Gold
5. Cold World
6. Labels
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10. Investigative Reports
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

Killah Preist & 4th Disciple is not the essence of Liquid Swords.

R. Greene, Monday, 10 October 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

The problem with many of these albums is that I can immediately identify the songs that really stood out for me as the essence, but the rest of the tracks that never made an impression are kinda hard to weed out without feeling arbitrary.

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

OK

1 In Between Days (2:55)
2 Kyoto Song (4:00)
3 Blood (3:42)
4 Six Different Ways (3:16)
5 Push (4:28)
6 Baby Screams (3:43)
7 Close to Me (3:20)
8 Night Like This (4:12)
9 Screw (2:35)
10 Sinking

I honestly can't remember how "Sinking" goes. Thus therefore in turn...

1 In Between Days (2:55)
2 Kyoto Song (4:00)
3 Blood (3:42)
4 Six Different Ways (3:16)
5 Push (4:28)
6 Baby Screams (3:43)
7 Close to Me (3:20)
8 Night Like This (4:12)
9 Screw (2:35)
10

Aaron A, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

Some funny wordplay in it, but "Labels" feels rather like an interlude.

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3. Living in the World Today
4. Gold
5. Cold World
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10. Investigative Reports
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

("Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth" wasn't originally on the album, right? I love Killah Priest's verse on it, but what the fuck's with GZA's anti-abortion lyric? Is that for real?)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

GZA doesn't rap on "Basic Instructions...". It's purely a Killah Preist song.

R. Greene, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
clean slate revival: velvet underground and nico

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4. venus in furs
5. run run run
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10. the black angel's death song
11. european son

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Crikey, it's a tough one

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I get bored of European Son. I don't think it's the album's essence either, which would be something more poppy more melodic.

jz, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Woops, forgot to repost the tracks:

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4. venus in furs
5. run run run
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10. the black angel's death song
11.

jz, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

i'm ditchin venus in furs - not a bad song by any stretch, but not really emblematic of the album or anything else they ever did (that medieval kinda thing wasn't a thread they picked up on too often)

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4.
5. run run run
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10. the black angel's death song
11.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Just to ensure we don't get a contrarian result (again), bye goes the black angel.

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4.
5. run run run
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Run Run Run is a fine song, but there are catchier, more inventive and more fun songs elsewhere on this.

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4. venus in furs
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10. the black angel's death song
11.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

My apologies, forgot to eliminate a few...it should look like this

1. sunday morning
2. im waiting for the man
3. femme fatale
4.
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Take off 2, it's on all the 'hits' compilations.

1. sunday morning
2.
3. femme fatale
4. venus in furs
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I think "Sunday Morning" will have to go, Lou Reed doesn't sound like Lou Reed on it (he sounds like a girl)

1.
2.
3. femme fatale
4. venus in furs
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7. heroin
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Bye Bye Drug Songs

1. sunday morning
2.
3. femme fatale
4.
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7.
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

naranjito (Koens), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

(I took off Heroin, Venus in Furs was long gone)

naranjito (Koens), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

... actually he sounds like Doug Yule! (xxpost)

1.
2.
3. femme fatale
4.
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7.
8.
9. ill be your mirror
10.
11.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

haha, the nico songs are so not the essence of this album

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

... one of them is

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

aw come on. dont stall out here!

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

You've nackered this, havent you? Let's put Venus back in.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

1.
2.
3. femme fatale
4.
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

"all tomorrow's parties" it is, cause it's got the fuller sound more emblematic of some of the already pulled-off great tracks

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6. all tomorrow's parties
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

dave heaton (daveheaton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

AAARGH i had an xpost declaring 'femme fatale' the winner :((((

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

It had to be either "All Tomorrow's Parties" of "Heroin" for my faith in this thread to continue!

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Wshew. OK, post another one Dave!

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

that's how i felt too.

btw, someone else pick the next album, the perfect next one isnt coming to mind for me right now...

dave heaton (daveheaton), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

How did the worst song on the album win?

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

my original choice would've been 'sunday morning' anyway. bah.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah - i think we made the right choice. talking off-board to zack, i totally agree that the hypnotic weirdy stuff (black angel, venus, ATP) is basically abandoned after the first album. but i really think its one of the three important aesthetics on the album, along with the minimalist guitar/thump rhythm of "im waiting..." (which is pretty prescient of some part of their future) and also just lou reed's non-trad lead singer voice giving birth in some significant way to alternative music. and i like psychedelia, so ATP was it for me.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

tori amos, little earthquakes

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6. happy phantom
7. china
8. leather
9. mother
10. tear in your hand
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

a case could be made for at least half the album really. i don't think it could be made for 'happy phantom' though.

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6.
7. china
8. leather
9. mother
10. tear in your hand
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Not awful by any means, but it's one of those songs where she made a superior song of the same type a few years later.

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6.
7. china
8. leather
9.
10. tear in your hand
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

(Sorry Lex if I'm a mentalist, I don't TRY to wind you up, I honestly think "Mother" should be the next one to go!)

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

i love 'mother' but i agree with you there, i can't see any it should have beaten! which is the same-but-better song she made? my brain is addled by full working day but i can't think of any where she deals with the same themes.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Nothing thematically the same comes to mind (but I only like Tori, and this and Choirgirl Hotel are the only two I know well), but sonically, "Pretty Good Year" does much the same thing for the most part but better.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

haha while you were typing that i had a 'brainwave' and realised that you meant 'horses', except you didn't (to me, 'mother' fits right alongside 'horses', 'pandora's aquarium' and the second half of under the pink as an example of tori's more ornate, counter-intuitive, lengthy piano ballads rather than the more straightforward pop songs like 'pretty good year' and 'silent all these years')

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

I am really referring to sound over structure, so as far as structure goes maybe "Icicle" is a closer relation than PGY.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Man, I sold this one off years ago... I'll wait until the songs that I don't remember are gone, in order to be more fair... (Just two or three, but I can't imagine wacking the ones that I do remember before them...)

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

i cant imagine wacking to ANY of these songs.

wait.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Die, China, die. You ruin an otherwise perfect album.

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6.
7.
8. leather
9.
10. tear in your hand
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

(Also, you're not essential.)

Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE. "Tear In Your Hand" is the only song left that doesn't send a shiver down my spine, so thus it must be abducted.

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6.
7.
8. leather
9.
10. tear in your hand
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

1. crucify
2. girl
3. silent all these years
4. precious things
5. winter
6.
7.
8. leather
9.
10.
11. me and a gun
12. little earthquakes

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
ok - it is proven that tori amos cannot sustain this fun activity.

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1. serve the servants
2. scentless apprentice
3. heart-shaped box
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6. dumb
7.
8. milk it
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11. tourettes
12. all apologies

"very ape" is not great.

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Somebody's gotta do it.

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1. serve the servants
2. scentless apprentice
3. heart-shaped box
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6. dumb
7.
8. milk it
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

ok, glad we got that tori amos thing outta the way (no offense to tori amos fans)

1. serve the servants
2. scentless apprentice
3.
4. rape me
5. frances farmer
6. dumb
7.
8. milk it
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

dude, whyd you truncate that song title? just copy and paste and delete, ok?

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Tough choices ahead, but not here.

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1. serve the servants
2. scentless apprentice
3.
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6. dumb
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I like this thread. Thanks for reviving. Remember the rules!

I cannot remember what "Dumb" sounds like, therefore...

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1. serve the servants
2. scentless apprentice
3.
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6.
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

May I also suggest we continue to cut and paste the artist & title?

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah - thats fine. i was just fucking with ZR about truncation.

petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1.
2. scentless apprentice
3.
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6.
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

The King of Flop Threads, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1.
2.
3.
4. rape me
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6.
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

"Perfume" was a stupid book, and did not need a song written about it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Just didn't hold up, Kurt.


NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1.
2.
3.
4.
5. frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle
6.
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

man, i love all of the remaining songs SO MUCH

ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

2/3 of my favorites are still around

don't start a RYE-OTT! (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, goodbye Francis. What a travesty it would be to call that the essence.

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. pennyroyal tea
10. radio friendly unit shifter
11.
12. all apologies

EppyButAtHome, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

burp

don't start a RYE-OTT! (plsmith), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

bump

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 29 December 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

So... We got one perverse choice, one obvious choice and one that shouldn't be there as the essence...
How long until we can take second bites?

js (honestengine), Thursday, 29 December 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Until someone starts posting under another alias, seems like.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 29 December 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

someone's inevitably gonna off "radio friendly unit shifter," but man, that's my favorite song on the album nowadays (and pretty "pure essence" IMO)

ZR (teenagequiet), Thursday, 29 December 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
Really? I'd take it over Pennyroyal Tea, but I think those are both kinda crap songs...

js (honestengine), Friday, 13 January 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)

how is pennyroyal tea a crap song?

don't start a RYE-OTT! (plsmith), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
I wanna revive this. And let's go with Liquid Swords, as it never got finished, and I don't care much about In Utero. I'm removing "Cold World" - it sticks out as the only song with a sung hook, and doesn't really represent the album.

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3. Living in the World Today
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10. Investigative Reports
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I was seriously gonna revive this the other day. I can't help with that one though.

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Sunday, 12 November 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

"4th Chamber" is the best song, but "Liquid Swords" is the ESSENCE of that album, no dount about it. Although every single song is a banger.

Shlomo Shemesh (Shlomo Shemesh), Sunday, 12 November 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

"Livin in the World Today" never felt as organic as the rest of the album to me.

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10. Investigative Reports
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 12 November 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez... I'll do Nirvana.

NIRVANA - IN UTERO
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Pennyroyal Tea
10.
11.
12. All Apologies

GLC (ZakAce), Monday, 13 November 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12. All Apologies

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9. Killah Hills 10304
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

I'll knock "Investigative Reports" off. It somehow sticks out among the remaining tracks as perhaps the only one that is short of amazing.

"4th Chamber" is the best song, but "Liquid Swords" is the ESSENCE of that album, no dount about it. Although every single song is a banger.

This is quite OTM.

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Monday, 13 November 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

bump

sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Thursday, 16 November 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

1. Liquid Swords
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

hate the hook

tk (tk), Thursday, 16 November 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...

1.
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8. Shadowboxin'
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

"Liquid Swords" has great lyrics, but the beat sounds quite different from the rest of the album, lighter.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

1.
2. Duel of the Iron Mic
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8.
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

The production on "Shadowboxin'" is missing the dense crunch I associate with the album and Meth's part occasionally seems kinda dopey to me.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

With "Killah Hills" gone, the winner had better be "4th Chamber" or heads will roll. In the meantime, "Duel of the Iron Mic" gets a samurai chop.

1.
2.
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7. 4th Chamber
8.
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, but I'd like the essence of a GZA album to be a track with more than one short verse from the GZA

1.
2.
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12. I Gotcha Back
13.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ouch! Fair point though, I guess.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'm glad this thread is back, but I have not heard this record. Yet.

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Sorry, but I'd like the essence of a GZA album to be a track with more than one short verse from the GZA

1.
2.
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. Swordsman
12.
13.

I always thought the hook of I Gotcha Back was a bit irratating.

let's do ege bamyasi:

01. Spoon
02. Sing Swan Song
03. One More Night
04. Vitamin C
05. Soup
06. I'm So Green
07. Spoon

DustyLoops, Saturday, 7 February 2009 08:17 (seventeen years ago)

01.
02.
03.
04. Vitamin C
05.
06.
07.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

woops

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 7 February 2009 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

did you drop vitamin c or did you drop all the others and the game is over, tracer hand?

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 7 February 2009 12:20 (seventeen years ago)

the latter! i couldn't wait, it seemed inevitable

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 7 February 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive

Come on.. let's finish this one...

I've taken out The Boy With The Gun, which for me is clearly the weakest track on the record. Let's hope we're left with Waterfront which is my favourite (but I wouldn't be disappointed with any of the others to be honest)

1. September
2.
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

Jack Battery-Pack, Saturday, 7 February 2009 15:51 (seventeen years ago)

I heart this thread.

sleeve, Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

How has this NOT been done on ilx?

1. Only Shallow
2. Loomer
3. Touched
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8. Sometimes
9. Blown A Kiss
10. What You Want
11. Soon

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

And I'll start with the easy pick -- the interlude.

1. Only Shallow
2. Loomer
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8. Sometimes
9. Blown A Kiss
10. What You Want
11. Soon

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

This is madness. You are really asking for it here. If I'm going to do one, I'd rather get it out of the way early. And it will be controversial, but so be it:

And I'll start with the easy pick -- the interlude.

1. Only Shallow
2. Loomer
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8.
9. Blown A Kiss Wish
10. What You Want
11. Soon

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2. Loomer
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8.
9. Blown A Kiss Wish
10.
11. Soon

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

Whoops! Sorry about the typo!

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:51 (seventeen years ago)

TS: Blown a Kiss vs. Feed Me With Your Wish?

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

oh, those days before polls...

Zeno, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

And I'll start with the easy pick -- the interlude.

I get the feeling this was intentionally left on your post.

Clever... and I won't disagree, nice though it is. ;-)

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

HOOS, DAMMIT

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2. Loomer
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11. Soon

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

1.
2.
3. Ex-Factor
4.
5. Doo Wop (That Thing)
6.
7.
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13.
14.
15.
16.

Doesn't hold up as well to repeat listens. There's a reason why the other 2 songs were singles before this one.

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― R. Greene, Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:54 PM Bookmark

^^^my first post

The Reverend, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

Nice!

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 01:52 (seventeen years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4. Gold
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

for so many wonderful things, especially the first verse, especially:

I'm in the park, settin' up a deal over blunt fire
Bum niggaz sleepin on the bench, they had 'em wired
Peeped my convo, the address of my condo
And how I changed a nigga name to John Doe
And while we set up camp, we got Vamp
Put the stake through his heart, I ripped his fuckin' fangs apart
Snake got smoked on the set like Brandon Lee
Blown out the frame, like Pan Am flight 103

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:34 (seventeen years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12. All Apologies

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, November 13, 2006 1:10 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

this shoulda been pennyroyal tea btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:35 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11. Soon

Something's gotta go, and the others are too good. Sorry Loomer fans.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:36 (seventeen years ago)

this shoulda been pennyroyal tea btw

No way. I agree with Kurt Cobain himself who said that was recorded wrong. It should have sounded like Nevermind. That's how they played it live and it was 10 times better.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

Loveless lookin' good so far...

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

damn u kornrulez

Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

loomer was never gonna win i guess...don't worry boo, u'd win it if i did every round ;_;

Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6. I Only Said
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11.

Soon kinda stands apart.

This is between "THKW" and "WYS" imo

Robin van Injury (country matters), Sunday, 8 February 2009 02:48 (seventeen years ago)

oops, i guess I got two votes on Liquid Swords. Oh well.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 February 2009 03:22 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5. When You Sleep
6.
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11.

Millsner, Sunday, 8 February 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

Only Shallow is the only track left that I can remember instantly, and I always kinda liked folks who ripped off MBV more than MBV, so lemme start an album that I do know:

Side one

1. "Rocks Off" – 4:32
2. "Rip This Joint" – 2:23
3. "Shake Your Hips" (Slim Harpo) – 2:59
4. "Casino Boogie" – 3:33
5. "Tumbling Dice" – 3:45
Side two

1. "Sweet Virginia" – 4:25
2. "Torn and Frayed" – 4:17
3. "Sweet Black Angel" – 2:54
4. "Loving Cup" – 4:23
Side three

1. "Happy" – 3:04

3. "Ventilator Blues" (Jagger, Richards, Mick Taylor) – 3:24
4. "I Just Want to See His Face" – 2:52
5. "Let It Loose" – 5:17
Side four

1. "All Down the Line" – 3:49
2. "Stop Breaking Down" (Robert Johnson) – 4:34
3. "Shine a Light" – 4:14
4. "Soul Survivor" – 3:49

THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Sunday, 8 February 2009 05:26 (seventeen years ago)

I refuse to participate in anything that holds that Sometimes is the worst (full) song on Loveless!

mehlt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 05:35 (seventeen years ago)

Otherwise, once that's done I call dibsies on a Selected Ambient Works one.

mehlt, Sunday, 8 February 2009 05:38 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry mehlt. It was like selecting one's least favorite child for a public beheading.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:03 (seventeen years ago)

btw if anything other than To Here Knows When wins i will behead a child in public

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4. To Here Knows When
5.
6.
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11.

I chose "When You Sleep" because it was the least best. "Only Shallow" itself was the sole influence on post-MBV bands. "To Here Knows When", well I agree with Hoos, although I wouldn't choose a child to behead, because I don't roll like that. "Come In Alone" is an underrated favorite. "When You Sleep" is nice too, but it just didn't make the cut.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:24 (seventeen years ago)

Also, "When You Sleep" interrupts the most awesome in-between loop on Loveless, the one that follows "To Here Knows When"... I could hear that loop forever, but instead "When You Sleep" disrupts it.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:25 (seventeen years ago)

If I were to have done this myself, it would have come down to these three. Godspeed to the brave souls who volunteer to do the last bit of pruning. And don't let Hoos scare you. Godlike as it is, I don't think THKW is any more worthy than the other two fine remaining tracks.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:35 (seventeen years ago)

yeah this is impossible, ned should do it

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 February 2009 06:37 (seventeen years ago)

Ned would oh so politely refuse. ;-)

ilxor, Sunday, 8 February 2009 07:57 (seventeen years ago)

er,

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Come In Alone
8.
9.
10.
11.

even though you guys made rather a meal of this one, i'm happy to see a couple of crackers still there in contention

Charlie Howard, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:02 (seventeen years ago)

o snap

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Monday, 9 February 2009 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

lookout son

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Monday, 9 February 2009 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

1. Only Shallow
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

Ha! It'd be more appropriate if "Come in Alone" came in alone as the winner, but it wasn't to be.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:56 (seventeen years ago)

wowee

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 February 2009 05:59 (seventeen years ago)

Oh shit, I need a reason. I guess "'Only Shallow' has simply always been my favourite and I conveniently got here just in time to cherrypick it into first place" won't do, huh?

Whatever. Feel free to disqualify me and let somebody more verbose take it instead...

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 9 February 2009 06:01 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7. Superheroes
8. High Life
9. Something About Us
10. Voyager
11. Veridis Quo
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14. Too Long

Probably don't need the short, beatless interlude.

I cut my hand on a low-hanging disco ball (The Reverend), Monday, 9 February 2009 06:04 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7. Superheroes
8. High Life
9. Something About Us
10. Voyager
11. Veridis Quo
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14.

Song title says it all.

Millsner, Monday, 9 February 2009 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7.
8. High Life
9. Something About Us
10. Voyager
11. Veridis Quo
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14.

just cause, pretty much

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 February 2009 06:06 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10. Voyager
11. Veridis Quo
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14.

yoink

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Monday, 9 February 2009 06:09 (seventeen years ago)

can we get some reasons up in here?

I cut my hand on a low-hanging disco ball (The Reverend), Monday, 9 February 2009 06:10 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10. Voyager
11.
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14.

i ousted 'veridis quo' because despite it being an awesome slowburner with plenty of atmosphere, it doesn't quite stand up alongside the delirious joy that the other remaining tracks bring.

Charlie Howard, Monday, 9 February 2009 06:21 (seventeen years ago)

xpost: I dig "Something About Us" and all, but it reminds me of Air (which is not in and of itself a bad thing), and Daft Punk are too much on their own thing to sound like that other duo of French electronic performers.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Monday, 9 February 2009 06:22 (seventeen years ago)

All the remaining tracks are great, but compared to the rest, I'd say "Voyager" feels more like a retread of "Something About Us" and less like its own thing.

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12. Short Circuit
13. Face to Face
14.

ilxor, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 05:34 (seventeen years ago)

bzzzzzt:

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5. Crescendolls
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Face to Face
14.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 11 February 2009 07:23 (seventeen years ago)

1. One More Time
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5.
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Face to Face
14.

winstonian (winston), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:07 (seventeen years ago)

"one more time" is just too ubiquitous to remain. and also it doesn't really represent this album as i know and love it

1.
2. Aerodynamic
3. Digital Love
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5.
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Face to Face
14.

i'm pulling for "aerodynamic" btw

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:20 (seventeen years ago)

owwwwww

winstonian (winston), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:27 (seventeen years ago)

The Residents' Commercial Album is next.

(alright, it isn't)

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

Digital Love had better make the final pair.

Millsner, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:30 (seventeen years ago)

Face to Face v Digital Love for me, but I can't tell whether I love the songs or they represent the album. I would take out Aerodynamic right now, because as amazing as it is, it still feels like a bridge between One More Time and Digital Love. Of course the fact that a "bridge" track is so utterly amazing might be the essence of this album??

Gukbe, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 09:34 (seventeen years ago)

it may serve as a bridge in the greater scheme of the album, but it's a pretty great composition in itself that distills a lot of the euphoric rushes and comedown tracks into a brief 3.5 minutes

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 10:09 (seventeen years ago)

i don't like 'digital love', like, at all.

1.
2. Aerodynamic
3.
4. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
5.
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Face to Face
14.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, probably should have gone anyway.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

wow this is getting nice and tight.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

1.
2. Aerodynamic
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13. Face to Face
14.

Awesome? Yes. Essence? No.

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

i think the essence of the album is probably 'one more time' to be fair. but it's not the best track, so i'm happy with how things are going.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

.
2. Aerodynamic
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8. High Life
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

I love Face To Face precisely because, as someone here once said, it sounds like a funky afterschool special One To Grow On type tune. But when I think of Discovery, among the three, Face To Face is the odd one out.

next!

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

I can't believe "High Life" has lasted this long.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

i agree, it's a little too hyper and sounds like more of a 'homework' track

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:59 (seventeen years ago)

If I'm not mistaken, it's about 15-20 bpm faster than anything else on the album.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

Sounds like "Aerodynamic" is the pure essence of that album then.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

It is! Ironically, it's one of my least favorite tracks on the album, but it does kinda sum up the album too. The disco ball images, the macabre synth bridge, the electronic guitar solos, the chunky beats.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

Discovery is a Moroderdose, and "Aerodynamic" is the taster.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

1.
2. Aerodynamic
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

no one else volunteered.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:24 (seventeen years ago)

haha

i and i overstand ilx bomboclaat formatting n ting (The Reverend), Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:25 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Xtal" – 4:54
2. "Tha" – 9:06
3. "Pulsewidth" – 3:46
4. "Ageispolis" – 5:23
5. "i" – 1:17
6. "Green Calx" – 6:05
7. "Heliosphan" – 4:51
8. "We Are the Music Makers" – 7:43
9. "Schottkey 7th Path" – 5:08
10. "Ptolemy" – 7:10
11.
12. "Delphium" – 5:26
13. "Actium" – 7:32

Took out "Hedphelym" because it's a terrible, sore thumb on an otherwise impeccable album.

mehlt, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:35 (seventeen years ago)

OK, the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack:

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06 "A Fifth of Beethoven" by Walter Murphy
07 "More Than a Woman" by Tavares
08 "Manhattan Skyline" by David Shire
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11 "Open Sesame" by Kool & the Gang
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14 "Boogie Shoes" by KC & the Sunshine Band
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:36 (seventeen years ago)

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06 "A Fifth of Beethoven" by Walter Murphy
07 "More Than a Woman" by Tavares
08 "Manhattan Skyline" by David Shire
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11 "Open Sesame" by Kool & the Gang
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

SNF is both the inflation and death of disco, essentially. Without SNF, disco wouldn't have been as big as it was, but it also accelerated its death (in its most known form that is) as well. My approach to the essence of this soundtrack is whatever sounds like that inflation and pending demise.

I love KC and the Sunshine Band. "Boogie Shoes" is a fine tune. But it doesn't jive with the rest of the songs here. It doesn't sound as wonderfully bloated and heavenly as most of the other songs. Leaving the rest, "Boogie Shoes" sounds like a light funk jam. That's always kinda been the secret about KC.. they were more of a Partridge Family approach to funk rather than a disco band. So, with all respect to Hialeah, Florida, KC gets das boot.

NEXT

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:41 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Xtal" – 4:54
2. "Tha" – 9:06
3. "Pulsewidth" – 3:46
4. "Ageispolis" – 5:23
5. "i" – 1:17
6. "Green Calx" – 6:05
7. "Heliosphan" – 4:51

9. "Schottkey 7th Path" – 5:08
10. "Ptolemy" – 7:10
11.
12. "Delphium" – 5:26
13. "Actium" – 7:32

fuck a willy wonka sample on this record

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:58 (seventeen years ago)

David Shire, thy name is oblivion, for the first but surely not last time.

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06 "A Fifth of Beethoven" by Walter Murphy
07 "More Than a Woman" by Tavares
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11 "Open Sesame" by Kool & the Gang
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

Matos W.K., Thursday, 12 February 2009 06:54 (seventeen years ago)

they were more of a Partridge Family approach to funk rather than a disco band.

This is brilliant.

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06
07 "More Than a Woman" by Tavares
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11 "Open Sesame" by Kool & the Gang
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

The lyrics are so strong on many of these songs, so "A Fifth of Beethoven" feels one-fifth too short compared to the others.

Eazy, Thursday, 12 February 2009 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11 "Open Sesame" by Kool & the Gang
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

'Cause it's redundant - who needs to hear the same unspectacular song twice?

And I like the brothers Gibb more than the Tavares boys.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 12 February 2009 08:38 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4. "Working Class Hero"
5. "Isolation"
6. "Remember"
7. "Love"
8. "Well Well Well"
9. "Look at Me"
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

i cant even make the first cut

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

01 "Stayin' Alive" by The Bee Gees
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

01
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17 "Disco Inferno" by The Trammps

Had to be done. Really, we'd all be better if this song is never heard again. Plus, I'm holding out hope that "If I Can't Have You" walks this thing.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

01
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05 "If I Can't Have You" by Yvonne Elliman
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

took out "inferno." decent enough disco tune that's wildly popular but there's some deeper shit going on in the other tunes

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

01
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12 "Jive Talkin'" by The Bee Gees
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

sorry jon

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

Damn! But yeah, maybe it isnt the essence of the album. Still a great tune though.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

Aargh! Oh no! "If I Can't Have You" would have been in my final three, essence-wise.

I'm taking out "Jive Talkin" - because it's too old, and because that shuffly Bohannon-esque chunkity-chunk rhythm was on its way out by 1977.

01
02 "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

mike t-diva, Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:22 (seventeen years ago)

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15 "Salsation" by David Shire
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

"how deep is your love" is nice, but not essential, imo

outdoor_miner, Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:24 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ crazy talk

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, nearly all the songs that i'd have hoped to see survive have been killed off

noticing the cloud come (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

I predict "Calypso Breakdown" will get the axe, so I'll state now that this is not only my fave song off the soundtrack, but still one of my favorite songs of all time.

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

there's only one tune left as far as i'm concerned that does it

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

but we'll proceed

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04 "More Than a Woman" by The Bee Gees
05
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04
05
06
07
08
09 "Calypso Breakdown" by Ralph MacDonald
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

Hmm, too many versions of "More than a Woman" on here!

Mark G, Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:06 (seventeen years ago)

re:^^^ crazy talk

K-Jee is still on the list, but not Disco Inferno- that's not loopy to you?

outdoor_miner, Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

it is loopy, but i can't see k-jee sticking around much longer

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

It would be hilarious if "Calypso Breakdown" takes this thing.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

so bummed that "Open Sesame" got axed!

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04
05
06
07
08
09
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15
16 "K-Jee" by MFSB
17

Cut "Calypso Breakdown" as one of the two remaining tracks that I can't immediately recall. Rooting for "Night Fever."

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

srsly if night fever doesn't take this that's some bullshit

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

at this point at least

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04
05
06
07
08
09
10 "Night on Disco Mountain" by David Shire
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15
16
17

fuckin love boat bullshit

contenderizer, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:38 (seventeen years ago)

"Working Class Hero" is too political, too outward-looking, not primal screamy enough to really fit in here:

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4.
5. "Isolation"
6. "Remember"
7. "Love"
8. "Well Well Well"
9. "Look at Me"
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

slobodan perryošević (unregistered), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04
05
06
07
08
09
10
11
12
13 "You Should Be Dancing" by The Bee Gees
14
15
16
17

sorry but its gotta be bee gees

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:48 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4.
5. "Isolation"
6. "Remember"
7. "Love"
8.
9. "Look at Me"
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

"well well well" isnt really anything more than a worse version of "i found out," except for the screaming at the end, which feels more awkward than the screaming in "mother."

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

Shocka! At the Disco

01
02
03 "Night Fever" by The Bee Gees
04
05
06
07
08
09
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

Colossal Youth will be a tough one, I'm sure:

1. "Searching for Mr. Right"
2. "Include Me Out"
3. "The Taxi"
4. "Eating Noddemix"
5. "Constantly Changing"
6. "N.I.T.A."
7. "Colossal Youth"
8. "Music for Evenings"
9. "The Man Amplifier"
10. "Choci Loni"
11. "Wurlitzer Jukebox"
12. "Salad Days"
13. "Credit in the Straight World"
14. "Brand - New - Life"
15. "Wind in the Rigging"

slobodan perryošević (unregistered), Thursday, 12 February 2009 18:57 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7. "Love"
8.
9. "Look at Me"
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

took out 'remember' okay song but never really gets going the way i want it to

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7. "Love"
8.
9.
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

"look at me" is our - the only song i can't remember from this album (along with "my mummy's dead" - but it has a better title so it stays)

Zeno, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

D'oh. "Salsation" is for me the perfect distillation of that album for better and (more so) worse.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3. "I Found Out"
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

"Love" is a nice enough tune and the sort of strained, aching, not-quite-believing quality does fit, but it's not half confessional enough to be the essence of this album. Not to just restate conventional reads of albums - I put this record on for "Mother" and "I Found Out" first and foremost.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3.
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "God"
11. "My Mummy's Dead"

no good objective justification, im just furthering my agenda

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2. "Hold On"
3.
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "God"
11.

obvs

Safe Boating is No Accident (G00blar), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

i mean, i agree. but i think it went at just the right time.

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:43 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2.
3.
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "God"
11.

sorries to any "Hold On" fans. I'm rooting for "Isolation".

sleeve, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2.
3.
4.
5. "Isolation"
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

"I don't believe... in yoga"

sorry if anyone was rooting for "God."

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:51 (seventeen years ago)

wow this is going to be a hard choice for whoever's next.

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:52 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Mother"
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

gotto go with mother

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:53 (seventeen years ago)

wasn't too hard actually, i think mother does it quite nicely

mark cl, Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

i was rooting for isolation, too. its the best of the hold on-look at me-isolation-love-remember bunch, that i think is the core of the album. mother and god are two of another piece, i think. and i mean, its tough to argue w the bell and the beginning and screams at the end of mother. i played it for my mom once and she cried. what a little shit i was.

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

really, we were TOTALLY right on with the top 5.

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7. Storms - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9. Not That Funny - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14. Never Make Me Cry - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
15. I Know I'm Not Wrong - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Zeno, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

Honey Hi,Bye

Zeno, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

gonna have to think about this one

sleeve, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

"I Know I'm Not Wrong"

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Searching for Mr. Right"
2. "Include Me Out"
3. "The Taxi"
4. "Eating Noddemix"
5. "Constantly Changing"
6. "N.I.T.A."
7. "Colossal Youth"
8. "Music for Evenings"
9. "The Man Amplifier"
10. "Choci Loni"
11. "Wurlitzer Jukebox"
12.
13. "Credit in the Straight World"
14. "Brand - New - Life"
15. "Wind in the Rigging"

"salad days" is a nice tune but it lacks the nervous energy of the rest of the album

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha i think honey hi is #1 ILX tusk appreciator ian johnson's favorite

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

i dont know if alfred meant to vote out IKINW or to say he thought it was the essence. i like it. so ill vote out...

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7. Storms - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9. Not That Funny - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15. I Know I'm Not Wrong - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

never make me cry

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I'm voting it out. Thanks.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

well then do it

69, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7. Storms - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9. Not That Funny - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Searching for Mr. Right"
2. "Include Me Out"
3. "The Taxi"
4. "Eating Noddemix"

6. "N.I.T.A."
7. "Colossal Youth"
8. "Music for Evenings"
9. "The Man Amplifier"
10. "Choci Loni"
11. "Wurlitzer Jukebox"

13. "Credit in the Straight World"
14. "Brand - New - Life"
15. "Wind in the Rigging"

"constantly changing" is a pain in the ass. it starts well but it doesn't go anywhere. and the dilettante singing is pretty much unbearable to these ears. no way it is the essence of the album. i'd think the album is better than that.

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:14 (seventeen years ago)

1. "Searching for Mr. Right"
2. "Include Me Out"
3. "The Taxi"
4. "Eating Noddemix"

6. "N.I.T.A."
7. "Colossal Youth"
8. "Music for Evenings"
9. "The Man Amplifier"
10. "Choci Loni"
11. "Wurlitzer Jukebox"

13. "Credit in the Straight World"
14. "Brand - New - Life"
15. "Wind in the Rigging"

"Wind in the Rigging" is a soothing, evocative closer featuring some delicious bursts of radio static (?) -- but no Alison Statton, no credibility.

slobodan perryošević (unregistered), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

ok, this:

1. "Searching for Mr. Right"
2. "Include Me Out"
3. "The Taxi"
4. "Eating Noddemix"

6. "N.I.T.A."
7. "Colossal Youth"
8. "Music for Evenings"
9. "The Man Amplifier"
10. "Choci Loni"
11. "Wurlitzer Jukebox"

13. "Credit in the Straight World"
14. "Brand - New - Life"

slobodan perryošević (unregistered), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

Revive!

"Five Years" – 4:43
"Soul Love" – 3:33
"Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
"Starman" – 4:16
"It Ain't Easy" (Ron Davies) – 2:56
"Lady Stardust" – 3:20
"Star" – 2:47
"Hang on to Yourself" – 2:37
"Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
"Suffragette City" – 3:19
"Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

Punting "Hang on to Yourself" as the least essential - reproduces things done better elsewhere, and just kind of rickety-sounding. So:

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2. "Soul Love" – 3:33
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5. "It Ain't Easy" (Ron Davies) – 2:56
6. "Lady Stardust" – 3:20
7. "Star" – 2:47
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 04:09 (sixteen years ago)

Soul Love is the only one I can't remember anything about how it sounds

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5. "It Ain't Easy" (Ron Davies) – 2:56
6. "Lady Stardust" – 3:20
7. "Star" – 2:47
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 30 August 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

"It Ain't Easy" is VERY easily the worst song on the album, however much one may remember it. Shouldn't have even been on there in the first place. Bye.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5.
6. "Lady Stardust" – 3:20
7. "Star" – 2:47
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 04:49 (sixteen years ago)

There are too many "Star" songs on this and "Star" is the weakest so it goes.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5.
6. "Lady Stardust" – 3:20
7.
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Sunday, 30 August 2009 05:21 (sixteen years ago)

Lady Stardust is good, but not that good.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – 2:57

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 August 2009 05:42 (sixteen years ago)

"Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" – the lyrics. cmon. no.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4. "Starman" – 4:16
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

iatee, Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:18 (sixteen years ago)

Catchy as hell, but just doesn't quite measure up to the rest of these

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. "Ziggy Stardust" – 3:05
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

Pullman/Paxton Revolving Bills (Pillbox), Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:50 (sixteen years ago)

Ouch, I'm crushed at the early exits of "It Ain't Easy" and "Lady Stardust"! The latter I thought had a reasonable shot at being the sole survivor...oh well.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:53 (sixteen years ago)

really? I figured it would be between ziggy stardust and suffragette city

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:56 (sixteen years ago)

same here

Dan S, Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:57 (sixteen years ago)

Just to spite you for chucking Starman.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:00 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, I think that's a fair move fwiw.

Pullman/Paxton Revolving Bills (Pillbox), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:02 (sixteen years ago)

Ziggy and Suffragette both great songs but not the "essence" to me - maybe Ziggy, but Suffragette is just too uptempo and kick-ass to be the essence of this collection of anomie and dreamy nostalgia for a dying world, etc. Whereas the chorus of "Lady Stardust" just NAILS it for me - there's such a wistful way he remembers the way the band WAS all together, and he SANG allllllll niiiiiight....long! Ahhh, just great stuff.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:04 (sixteen years ago)

So, of what's left, Five Years would be my pick even though I like Moonage Daydream slightly more as a song...

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:05 (sixteen years ago)

Bizarrely enough, I always thought the pure essence of Ziggy Stardust was "Life on Mars."

Mordy, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:08 (sixteen years ago)

I'd have gone with "Soul Love" as the pure essence, but of the ones left, it's "Five Years", that's all we've got.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:25 (sixteen years ago)

Ouch, I'm crushed at the early exits of "It Ain't Easy"

What on earth do you like about the song?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:38 (sixteen years ago)

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7. Storms - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

'not that funny' - I like it, but it sorta screams 'minor track'

iatee, Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:20 (sixteen years ago)

re: It Ain't Easy: mainly just really fun to sing along to the chorus, but I also like the texture of the verse, the way it bumps back and forth...it's a good track, I dunno!

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:25 (sixteen years ago)

k gotcha DC:)

"Storms" is outta here. Too goddamn long. Too goddamn slow. The kind of track (so many of them, in fact) that makes me wonder if Tusk is truly an Exile-style masterpiece of energy depletion or just boring. Thank gawd Stevie offered up "Sara" because she's definitely the weakest line for me here. The only other track of hers I'd keep were I to winnow Tusk down to one (vinyl) disc is "Sisters of the Moon" because at least it rocks (probably besides the point, I know but voila).

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:08 (sixteen years ago)

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

That's enough for me too...

Mordy, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:15 (sixteen years ago)

Aw, "Storms is probably my favourite.

Sundar, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:33 (sixteen years ago)

It's your fave song on the album? Mais pourquoi?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:48 (sixteen years ago)

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Too long, too plodding, too boring. Not weird enough. Totally the wrong beginning for this album, which is kind of fitting but does not make for fun listening. It took me years to listen to it all the way through.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 August 2009 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

re: It Ain't Easy: mainly just really fun to sing along to the chorus, but I also like the texture of the verse, the way it bumps back and forth...it's a good track, I dunno!

I don't know why it gets such a bad rap either, it's a fine song.

chap, Sunday, 30 August 2009 11:40 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

"Tusk" has to go, its bizarre and I love it, but as a song it can't really compete with the heavy hitters on this album.

wouldn't mind doing The Dreaming if this one ever gets wrapped up...

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Just to spite you for chucking Starman.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:00 AM Bookmark

This is still waiting for its last couple of cuts!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

REVIVE

YESTER/HENSKE FAREWELL ALDEBARAN

1 "Snowblind" - 3:07
2 "Horses on a Stick" - 2:10
3 "Lullaby" - 2:55
4 "St. Nicholas Hall" - 3:35
5 "Three Ravens" - 3:30
6 "Raider" - 5:12
7 "Mrs. Connor" - 2:17 (also listed as "One More Time")
8 "Rapture" - 4:09
9 "Charity" - 3:17
10 "Farewell Aldebaran" - 4:21

farewell mrs connor

69, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)

also

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

69, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)

please, let five years win, i love the hell out of "Suffragette City" but it is by no means the essence of this creepy waiting-for-death weirdo from space record

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:21 (twelve years ago)

there you go

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

cock chirea, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)

YESTER/HENSKE FAREWELL ALDEBARAN

1 "Snowblind" - 3:07
2 "Horses on a Stick" - 2:10
3 "Lullaby" - 2:55
4 "St. Nicholas Hall" - 3:35
5 "Three Ravens" - 3:30
6 "Raider" - 5:12

8 "Rapture" - 4:09
9 "Charity" - 3:17
10 "Farewell Aldebaran" - 4:21

cock chirea, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)

yeahhhhh! justice is served

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)

i wholeheartedly love every song that's still left on this one except...

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

(also, i just searched my itunes for the word "sisters" and that was my least favorite of the six songs that showed up.)

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 August 2013 05:27 (twelve years ago)

Storms & OAO nixed already? This is madness.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:58 (twelve years ago)

Surely the title track has to win on Farewell Aldebaran? Or do I need to listen to the album more because I'm an idiot?

emil.y, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)

can't believe somebody didn't cut this already:

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

sleeve, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)

can't believe somebody did cut the title song. speaking of madness.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)

How is "Beautiful Child" any kind of obvious cut? It's one of the best songs on the album!

JRN, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

seriously fuck you for cutting "beautiful child"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (twelve years ago)

hahaha hey that's the breaks here, sorry! It never did much for me. Came in #8 on the album poll, which honestly surprises me.

Don't Say That You Love Me: The TUSK Poll.

sleeve, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)

Surely the title track has to win on Farewell Aldebaran? Or do I need to listen to the album more because I'm an idiot?

― emil.y, Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

youre not an idiot, but you need to listen to it more

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

swear to god youll thank me later

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

oops

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:49 (twelve years ago)

Tusk is my favourite album of all time but of the remaining tracks I'd definitely cut 'Save Me a Place' - 'Walk a Thin Line' does the same sort of thing better.

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

my first post was itt!

we run zings, zings don't run we (The Reverend), Friday, 9 August 2013 00:42 (twelve years ago)

^cool Rev. i hope you're still proud of it!

xp in general: i really think there's a tension here between the title of the thread ("the pure essence of an album") and the suggested procedure. not so much the whittling away (necessarily painful, but i'm cool with that), but the fact that we're to whittle away what we think the "worst" remaining track is. or let me put it in more straightforward terms: i don't think the procedure of removing the songs we just don't like is a way for us to collectively arrive at the "essence" of an album. for example, on led zep iv, "stairway to heaven" is probably my least favorite track. but it would be one of the last tracks i would remove in trying to get at the essence of the album. similarly, i can totally get why someone might not dig "tusk" or "storms", but i like to think even these people would think the former to be one of the signature tracks of the album, and as for the latter, yeah, it's a little languid and doesn't "rock", but its naked, lo-fi, at times tune-less intimacy is exactly the kind of thing you'd find on this album and no other by this band.

(but yeah i'll admit my username strips me of any claims to objectivity)

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 9 August 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)

i think i proposed this thread-type originally (though i cant find that thread)? and like DEFINITELY its some hyperbole but like i feel you, i like storms too!

69, Friday, 9 August 2013 05:02 (twelve years ago)

the casualness with which people cut things is pretty great

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 9 August 2013 05:04 (twelve years ago)

I for one never followed the 'worst' line of thinking, or maybe took it as "the worst in terms of fitting the pure essence criteria." I actually think there are probably some very good albums whose 'essence' song might be among the worst tracks! Like, "Four Sticks" might actually be it for Zoso.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 August 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)

the casualness with which people cut things is pretty great

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, August 9, 2013 5:04 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I for one never followed the 'worst' line of thinking, or maybe took it as "the worst in terms of fitting the pure essence criteria." I actually think there are probably some very good albums whose 'essence' song might be among the worst tracks! Like, "Four Sticks" might actually be it for Zoso.

― Doctor Casino, Friday, August 9, 2013 5:06 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTMZ

69, Friday, 9 August 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, Doctor C, it was clear to me from your comment on Five Years that you were thinking about this in exactly the right way.

But instead of acknowledging you, I chose to pout, harrumph and take my ball home because some of the other boys were being mean to songs i like.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 10 August 2013 06:14 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

No longer active (Moka), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:45 (nine years ago)

I keed, I keed

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

― No longer active (Moka), Fri

No longer active (Moka), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:46 (nine years ago)

David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:57 (nine years ago)

actually, missed one. should look like this now:

1.
2.
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 November 2016 21:04 (nine years ago)

1.
2.
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

(Hint to next person: Let the Happiness In)

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:23 (nine years ago)


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