t.i. - "what you know about that"

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― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

wot a strange request...

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

It's awesome! Love the orchestration, love the endless rhymes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

totally cinematic.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Geeta to thread!

― Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

truly unbelievable song, can't wait for the king. question, the beat is one of dj toomp's, yes? on the pitchfork track review, the writer mentions "what you know" being a reworking of the impressions' "gone away." ive listened to "gone away" a couple times looking for similarities but haven't been able to find anything... thoughts?

― lil' ghetto boy, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)

one of the best.

― deeeeej, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit, this song is a doozie. It's fucking shoegaze crunk.

― T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)

ive listened to "gone away" a couple times looking for similarities but haven't been able to find anything... thoughts?

Yeah, I couldn't figure that out, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) ...Or at least an M83 remix of a Lil' Jon song...

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

haha geeta said it reminded her of a border community track

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

(then i vomed into my mouth a lil)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Great hook, great chorus, forgettable verses. On first impressions anyway.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

I like the weird little pause between the bass notes that you can only really hear when the main synth line drops out at the very end.

xpost the verses are very memorable, although not always in a good way ("squarey cube"?)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

geeta said it reminded her of a border community track

more like t.i. vs wendy carlos! the organ sound isn't quite there but that sample has baroque traces to it.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

haha yes!! i was waiting for somebody to start a thread about this song!!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

genre for this tune -- crunkette?

i was just thinking about finney's 'grimette' genre coinage earlier today!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

genre for this tune

von trapp muzik

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

must... hear... this... NOW

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

check ysi thread

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)

stop tryna ruin 1 of the best songs out

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:02 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drh200/h223/h22382d4ziy.jpg

Nice album cover, I might say.

― A Licky Boom Boom Down (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

aw, ethan, quit being so glum. it's ok to smile! dare to dream!

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

haha commas OTM

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Its like basementjaxx-hyphy.

― deeeeej, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)

deej if you're not parodying the other people in this thread shut up

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

if you are though bravo

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

i don't care what he's saying in the verses -- they sound so drenched in pathos thanks to the majestic synth-string backing! it's like dj sammy taken down by about 30-40 bpm

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

haha dude basementjaxxhyphy doesnt even make sense.

― deeeeeej, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

good song. it sounds cool. i won't say anything more for fear of internet reprisals.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Someone just mentioned dj sammy in a positive light. Nothing you say can surpass that in wackness.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

dj sammy is crappy mall trance, obviously, but he's also a pop genius. go read this great article, written by a longtime ILMer who will probably punch me for linking to it.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:34 (twenty years ago)

this is why living in atlanta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading ilm

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

everything >>>>>>>> reading ilm

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

dj sammy, however, makes lame lapdance music

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

just sayin

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

dj sammy is aight

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:46 (twenty years ago)

and come on ethan, von trapp muzik was funny

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:47 (twenty years ago)

nah it was - 'trap' puns >>>> 'crunk' puns

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

i aint a gangsta rapper / i aint a trapper neither / but im known to carry paper like a trapper keeper

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

i am still lmao at "the apparent trap" btw

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

now see i actually made that work!! von trapp muzik is funny but means nothing in relation to this song

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

i played the hell out of this song about two weeks ago. very dope

― charlie bucket (charlie bucket), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:54 (twenty years ago)

von trapp muzik is funny but means nothing in relation to this song

it does if you think the sample is kind of regal and baroque and limp-wristed! but not being from atlanta, i think EVERYTHING is like that.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

1) its not a sample 2) how the fuck does regal & baroque = limp wristed

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

royalist inbreeding?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

"king of the south marries own sister to continue bloodline."

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

maybe that's why he's got that head of his

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:03 (twenty years ago)

I used the word "regal" in my review of this song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

regal and baroque => campy and over-the-top => pet shop boys and erasure

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

jaymc it troubles me that you wrote a review of this song

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

which i havent heard

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

but still

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

whod expect the single from an album called THE KING to sound regal & baroque

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

it was for stylus, dude.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

you are only increasing my concern

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

hold up jess they aint got radios up there???

― ,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

baroque + regal = http://www.pslover.com/thumbs/5476.jpg

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

my radio only gets npr and "shock jocks"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

the previous owner in this office removed the tuning knob and ate it, i think

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:09 (twenty years ago)

goato mountington

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i actually haven't heard this song on the radio yet, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

now off to whole foods!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

but how do you stay up on "that bodymore crack music"

― ,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

http://governmentnames.blogspot.com

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

lol

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

have we fallen into a wormhole and ended up in the summer of 2003 or what?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

one of the byproducts of having been on ilx so long is knowing when ethan is bored and argumentative vs. angry and argumentative

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

the new janet jackson single totally sounds like modest mouse

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

i meant mouse on mars but the joke works either way

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

to mark

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

this job is killing me

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

am i @ xlr8r yet

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

btw this is song of the year

― ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Janet Jackson and the Sea and Cake: The Connection?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

MY BABY T.I.

― o -- (eman), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

"the king's back" produced by just blaze
h00p://www.megaupload.com/?d=NU6DKQ1U

change the 00 to tt

― charlie bucket (charlie bucket), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Tribe (Find a Way) and Crystal Waters (Gypsy Woman) samples on the same track (Why You Wanna).

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

song of the year, definitely. the album, unfortunately, is sorta real bad. just blaze produces 2 outta the first 4 tracks wtf this is atlanta

― (+):/, Friday, 24 March 2006 07:33 (twenty years ago)

the carter II left a bad taste in my mouth but this is real disappointing on the heels of "what you know" and the p$c gangsta grillz and decent album. the south is supposedly on top right now why the tired northeastisms

― (+) : -/, Friday, 24 March 2006 07:36 (twenty years ago)

ehh I think the album is better than that but I suppose it is kinda underwhelming considering. Still the strong tracks are absurdly strong.

The radio in Chicago has already started blending "Why You Wanna" with "Gypsy Woman," heard it last night. Slowed down like that the original vox are kinda creepy.

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Also let's be honest, T.I. over Just Blaze >>> Saigon over Just Blaze

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Ethan, what's your favorite Wayne album?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I kinda like "Why You Wanna," it's way better than most of T.I.'s other loverman joints, and it's got those house keyboards from Dajae's "Brighter Days"!

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Those pianos are from "Gyspy Woman" actually, by Crystal Waters (which Andy K mentioned upthread.) But I agree, its definitely one of the best he's done.

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

ahh, my bad, I knew it was some kinda old dance joint but I coulda swore it was "Brighter Days". not as bad as 'Bol' thinking it was a sample from Mario Kart, though.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Boy I bet XXL feels silly now.

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

"talkin to you" is easily the best song on this record. i for one really really dig it...

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

ahaha sorry j (+): -/ aint me

fav wayne albums are tha block is hot, 500 degreez, & tha carter (in that order???) - carter 2 is aight (i even fuck w/ receipt), never heard lights out but 'get off the corner' is dope & 'shine' is maybe cash moneys greatest single, sqad up tapes go raw as hell too

― +++, Friday, 24 March 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)

I can't keep up anymore.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

you need a bird watching-type guide to tell ethan stalkers apart from ethan these days. granted, he makes it easy for them with the constantly changing 'anonymous' screennames.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

haha i'm not an "ethan stalker"--i don't know who he is/ i didn't realize there was another person similarly named; sorry! i do agree with his lil wayne opinions incidentally. the king sounds a *little* better this morning; it's kinda limp sounding though imo

― no plus signs, Friday, 24 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I donno with this album the New York beats thing is kinda a red herring I think; its not like T.I. was always riding some real distinctive southern production or something. It was always more about the persona and as far as that goes this album is pretty consistent, if less fleshed out than Trap Muzik. I do miss the real quality reflective tracks a la "My Life" and "Prayin For Help" and many of the tracks on Trap Muzik; the Jamie Foxx one is the only song that goes in that territory and it does sound kinda limp compared to those. His rhymes are still good on those weak tracks though, which makes their non-essential-ness sadder!

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I should clarify, obviously the Sanchez and toomp beats sound pretty distinctively southern but not explosively so, to the point where they define the track like '03 Lil Jon or something; they always kind of stay in the background to the rapper.

― deeej, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

i just feel like his *best* songs have been on "distinctively southern" beats. i do realize that it was dumb to hope that this album would be full of like organized noize & lil jay beats, but i would love that. it took me forever to even listen to urban legend because of the swizz beats stuff, and then i saw "feat. pharell." i mean, he's been doing neptunes beats i guess since early in his career; i just wish he'd stop!

― nps, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:28 (twenty years ago)

oh also i'm unjustly included the neptunes' va in this vague area called the northeast because i want to

― nps, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

didn't mean to diss you, spokes, but the other plus signs dude has had many people trying to jack his style or pretend to be him on this board over the years.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 24 March 2006 19:52 (twenty years ago)

don't worry about it, i guess i confused a couple of you guys. my fault

― nps, Friday, 24 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

of tangential impt to this thread but:
why didn't the sanchez prod "shell" (the "you don't want no problems with squuaad") song from the gangsta grillz tape show up on the p$c album OR the king?
that was a good song!

― nps, Saturday, 25 March 2006 08:02 (twenty years ago)

not sure where the basement jaxx hyphy comparisons are coming from, or even the house ones, although you hipsters never fail to surprise me with your far reaching reference points, so if anyone can illuminate me as to what the dance roots are in this track, that would be great. i dont hear it. i just hear good but pretty normal southern rap.

― newbie, Saturday, 25 March 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I wanted to like it more than I do, but I'm still listening to it. I have a feeling that this one may click into place for me, given time.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 25 March 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

not feeling this song, but then i don't like t.i. to begin with

― o -- (eman), Saturday, 25 March 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

not sure where the basement jaxx hyphy comparisons are coming from

they're from my ass.

― deeej., Saturday, 25 March 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

according to last.fm i have played this song 48 times

― charlie bucket (charlie bucket), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

this sounds like gangsta nip doing the cocteau twins in the butt.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 27 March 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

cocteau twins = gay rapper?

AllHipHop.com: You know, Brokeback Mountain is hugeï¿½

T.I.: [Laughs] Now, why the f**k are you gonna ask me a question about Brokeback Mountain?

AllHipHop.com: Would you ever make a song with a gay rapper?

T.I.: Hell no! We don't mix.

AllHipHop.com: Really?

T.I.: Who is the gay rapper?

AllHipHop.com: I don't know.

T.I.: There is no gay rapper to make a song with, so that question is non-applicable!

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 13th, 2006.

― ILMsynergy, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

It sounds like rap, I think.

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really don't think this song is on any futuristic, genre-hopping tip at all -- it's just a really well-made, confident, and compelling Southern rap song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

i didn't really mean that! i've never heard gangsta nip.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

or the cocteaus really, i remember some songs on 120 minutes...they sounded like twinkly and stuff.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i feel like b.g.'s "living right" (aka track 6 on the new album) carries on the graceful spirit of this song

― keeping this thread alive since, last thursday, Friday, 31 March 2006 06:41 (twenty years ago)

are sports dudes using this for their batting/warm-up music yet? it seems eminently suited for those types of activities.

― beat club (beat club), Monday, 3 April 2006 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I told someone "hey I like that new T.I. song" and after describing it he said he had heard it as background music on ESPN

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 3 April 2006 19:50 (twenty years ago)

DEFINITELY reminded me of M83. I almost want to say I like it more than Rubberband Man but I might be being hasty.

― Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Late to the game, but this is fucking ridiculous. Two days straight and counting.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

I think people who are disappointed by the album are trying really hard to be disappointed by the album. It's pretty damned good.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

I just picked up the Gary Wright "Dreamweaver" album because it has the sample source to "The King is Back".

the weird M83/Bassment Jaxx comparisons must be coming from the big rave synths?

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 02:20 (twenty years ago)

If I sound disappointed i don't mean to! It is mostly great.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 02:21 (twenty years ago)

Reigning song of the year, agreed; preferred even to, say, "Tell Me When to Go"

Kelefa speaks: The album's first single is "What You Know," for which the producer Toomp composed a grand, heraldic beat fit for a you-know-what. A slight rasp creeps into T.I.'s sing-song drawl as he declaims one handsome couplet after another: "Fresh off the jet to the block, burning rubber with the top popped/ My partner busting shots, I tell him, 'Stop, it make the block hot.' " As those rhymes and near-rhymes — block/top/popped/shots/stop/block/hot — tumble out, sound proves his point in a way sense never could."

― R.O.Q.U.E., Tuesday, 4 April 2006 02:54 (twenty years ago)

jaxon wanna hook us up with a ysi?

― Baba Yaga, The Iron Hag (blastocyst), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 03:40 (twenty years ago)

shit man, i wrote that post at a friends house before i could compare the two songs. it's not actually "The King is Back" sample but another recent-ish southern hip hop track (maybe even on T.I.'s last album?). i actually bought it on vinyl & i looked on limewire for the song, but i can't get it. it's called "Can't Find the Judge". anyone else have it?

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)

found it. it's the sample for "No More Talk" on the first T.I. sample.

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:18 (twenty years ago)

album, blah, talking while typing.

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Its on his 2nd album.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 04:54 (twenty years ago)

oh cool, that's probably my favorite song on Trap Muzik, I gotta download that sample.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 05:07 (twenty years ago)

i always thought that break sounded like all about the benjamins

― ++++, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

just for ilm genre bending props i should scan my old sep 2001 issue of the source (w/ p diddy AND THE TWIN TOWERS cover) where t.i. gushes about how much he loves the bee gees and donna summer

― ++++, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:25 (twenty years ago)

i should confess i hated dude at the time for his shitty neptunes single (which is incredible lyrically but ugh neptunes)

― ++++, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:27 (twenty years ago)

ther person i share my office with is getting pretty sick of this album, i think

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)

http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/l/LilFlip/lil_flip_150.jpg??

― ++++, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 13:42 (twenty years ago)

GARY WRIGHT "CAN'T FIND THE JUDGE".
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I2FEUP3FLT7F3T0NQQ819AJZZ

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

why can't i slsk this album

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

why did i spend my weekly bad rap album allowance on "fishscale"

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

i might have to go see ATL

http://i2.tinypic.com/sw8pw8.jpg

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:42 (twenty years ago)

vahid, check yr gmail

― team jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

ok so since when is " block/top/popped/shots/stop/block/hot" an impressive set of rhymes!?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

album of the year - flawlessly exhilarating lyrically & beats on a all eyez on me/chronic 2001 level

― ++++++, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

i can't even tell if you're being sarcastic anymore

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:26 (twenty years ago)

its like triumphant i beat the boss nintendo music isn't it?

― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

who the fuck is sarcastic about this

― +++++, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

After all the hype for this song I listened to it yesterday and didn't think it was THAT great, but all of a sudden I had an urge to listen to it again and again and again. Goddamn.

― Harpal (harpal), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)

this is a good album. i'm not into the just blaze tracks at all (too ROWDY) but the swizz beats tracks are OK and the mannie fresh beats just kill it. and who is this kevin "khao" cates character?? his tracks are bonkers too!!

so much good stuff on this album ... "front back", "ride with me", "why you wanna", "top back", "stand up guy", "you know who", "told you so" and OMG "bankhead"!!!!

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 6 April 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like Bankhead, but other than that Vahid is on point. Oh and I like the Just Blaze tracks, even when blaze has that anti-808 ad lib about replacing hand claps with hi-hats or whatever.

― deeej, Thursday, 6 April 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

Ahh fuck it, bankhead ain't bad.

― deeej, Thursday, 6 April 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

not sure about "album of the year" though. the new e40 is pretty good!

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 6 April 2006 02:42 (twenty years ago)

is it? i need to get it, but ive been hearing the production on it is kind of wack.

― Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 6 April 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

if super loud 808 bass hits and late-80s electro-techno jittery keyb isn't your thing...

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 6 April 2006 04:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah. heard the production is way different than his old stuff. ill check it out anyway.

― Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 6 April 2006 04:21 (twenty years ago)

There's nothing wrong with (most of) the production on the E-40, most of it knocks. Its one of the best, sans the dicksucking song and the one with T-Pain.

― deeej, Thursday, 6 April 2006 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Ahh fuck it, bankhead ain't bad.
-- deeej (el...) (webmail), April 5th, 2006 8:18 PM.

bankhead ain't bad? ANYWAY ... tell me that if you had a masta killa or somebody over rza plunking out "for a few dollars more" on a harpsichord and a drunk DMX doing "conan what is good in life" for the chorus people wouldn't be shitting pants over it on ILM.

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 April 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

rapper is bad

― p ds (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)

go listen to qwell

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:06 (twenty years ago)

you mean qwel? i did, he sounds like a nasally jay-z. not bad!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)

damn the kgb locked my thread. my follow-up was proof 101

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

in my memory this track sounded like some all-telling synthesizer which encompassed a certain frequency range which truly touched my over-sympathetic soul. i'd be terribly depressed . . .

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

who's the producer google ain't shit

i know there are all sorts of even synth phrases interwoven. remember when lil jon invented nord?

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:21 (twenty years ago)

o yea
ugh
really

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)

king best album 4 2006
whatever that means

― pds7k2 (pds37), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

i cant stop listening to this album, like everyone else, but WHY THE FUCK did bounce like this, you ain't fly and get up get out not make it to the final??
theres some great songs floatin around

― capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:51 (twenty years ago)

that was ... weird ... anybody else want to talk about the rest of the album?!?

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember liking Bounce Like This very much.

― deeej, Friday, 7 April 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)

T.I. always said that the stuff that leaked a few months ago wouldn't be on the final album (w/ the exception of "Front Back" and "Live In The Sky" with Pimp C and Jamie Foxx added to them, respectively). so far my favorite track is "I'm Talkin' To You" but I really haven't listened to it enough yet. the bonus DVD is pretty lame (one video, a pointless "Drive Slow" remix with T.I. screensavers scrolling across the screen, and a boring concert featurette where T.I. performs 5 songs, only two of which he raps more than the chorus of), they shouldn't have even bothered pressing up the disc.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm really liking this record. It annoys people at work and that's always a good indicator. Still think that 'What You Know' is better than the rest, but 'Why You Wanna' is getting under my skin now. Maybe it's because I love 'Gypsy Woman' so much.

― yer mam! (yer mam!), Friday, 7 April 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

CONTROVERSY: the metacritic page(http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/ti/king ) for the album mistakenly pull-quotes the part of the PItchfork review referring to young jeezy's lets get it ie "..deeply nihilistic.." everyone's gonna think t.i.'s a downer when in fact he's rapping over crystal waters beats

― nps, Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

i like the syndrum breakdowns in "get it". bonkers.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:13 (twenty years ago)

yeah, why the fuck does the dvd audio "drive slow remix" play such a part in this limited edition...of all the non-album tracks they could highlight

― nps, Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

has anyone mentioned the fact that "the breakup" is hilarious?

― nps, Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

"look like a tennis ball"

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

this is easily my favorite album of the year so far, and "i'm talkin to you" might be my favorite "single"

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:20 (twenty years ago)

i think the only tracks i don't like are "goodlife" and "undertaker" for being, respectively, boring because of the neptunes and boring because it's sort of same old same old.

its weird that "goodlife" doesn't work because all of the other laidback jazzy tracks are just awesome, especially "i'm straight / pimp C interlude" because it reminds me of OD's great production on this awesome/terrible late 90s west coast comp.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

i am w/ strongo and mr haiku (who bats 1000 on rap album recommends unlike strongo who owes me money for "fishscale" - ps send the damn NOW promo already!!)

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:24 (twenty years ago)

"goodlife" is ass (someone do a tanya harding on pharell's layrnx asap, plz), but "undertaker" i'm not bothered by.

haha xpost yeah yeah

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

nobody is more anti-Pharrell in '06 (and '05, and '04, and '03) than me, but I like "Goodlife"! I can't figure out what's up with "Stand Up Guy," though, it sounds like he's attempting an accent that doesn't exist on the chorus.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

if they could use crystal waters then why couldn't "goodlife" be an inner city cover?? =(

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:34 (twenty years ago)

I like undertaker too. Although the song is good I don't like that "Told You So" is basically the same as a song from Urban Legend. I think "Stand Up Guy" is awesome, not really feeling good life or live in the sky. They both have great verses from Tip but the beats are :( Also I'm ok with Hello and Bankhead but to me they are a notch below the rest of the tracks on the album which are all kinda uniformly awesome. Its probably my favorite album so far this year too, at least for now. I think there have been quite a few rap albums worth checking though.

― deeej, Saturday, 8 April 2006 00:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah me too. i really do like fishscale and the e-40 and keak albums are both great. and its only april after all.

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

this is growing on me. "front back" is real nice

― smokemon (eman), Saturday, 8 April 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

that would be sad if this is the best 2006 has to offer, maybe you guys are being sarcastic? good single, but weak album, it kinda takes a dive after track 4 (six minutes of jamie foxx? NO THX). carter 2 beats this easily.

― smokemon (eman), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm not as down on it as you are, but yeah, the more I listen to it the less consistent it seems, and I will be bummed if this remains the best rap album I hear this year. also "Front Back" kinda sucks, Mannie Fresh manages to ruin the beat without even changing it from the original that much. the shocker of the album is definitely that Travis Barker co-produced one of the best beats, "You Know Who."

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Al please remember that "consistency" is only important in risotto and bike shorts. Also, give it a rest and come back to it without All The Expectations, it helps in this case. (Helped me, anyway.)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

"look like a tennis ball"

isn't it "a dirty tennis ball", which is 10x funnier

― smokemon (eman), Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

i wonder how the clipse album is shaping up

― rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

i hate to say it but this album flows a whole lot better than Fishscale. But still, i'd pick 'Whip You With a Strap' over all of King

― rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

haha matt wtf, don't give me that "consistency doesn't matter in an ipod world" rap, an album with all good songs is always gonna be better than an album with 75% good songs. and I didn't really come into it with super high expectations, I like T.I. but I don't need this album to be some "his crowning moment" bullshit to enjoy it. anyway i'm not hating, it's a good album.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)

so is ATL worth seeing?

― smokemon (eman), Saturday, 8 April 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

haha, i missed the travis barker co-production credit. confession: i kind of dig the travis barker song on the bun-b album :/ also, what is with comparing The King to Fishscale?? I hated on this album when I first dled it, but I love it now..and wtf, of course it is better than fischscale..why does ghostface continually arouse interest in the fader set? i dunno if dude talking abt all eyez on me beats was for real or not, but i DO think this album has that "effortlessly" tight rhymes over sometimes soft and understated but always uhh repeatable, playable beats thing going on that that album has

― nps, Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:56 (twenty years ago)

Whether or not Alex is right about consistency (I'm more siding with Matt on this I guess if it matters, it does have some skippable moments but mostly who cares when the rest is so good?) but calling this a 'weak album' is some serious wtfareyousmoking.

― deeej, Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:04 (twenty years ago)

i hate to say it but this album flows a whole lot better than Fishscale. But still, i'd pick 'Whip You With a Strap' over all of King

-- rizzx (joris...), April 8th, 2006.

― pds7k2 (pds37), Sunday, 9 April 2006 09:52 (twenty years ago)

nah thats crazy too.

― deeej, Sunday, 9 April 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Rolling Stone gave this 2 stars out of 5, sadly it couldn't live up the Vines new album (2 and a half stars) or the new UB40 (three and a half)

― deeej, Sunday, 9 April 2006 10:44 (twenty years ago)

it's like rza said it before

― rizzx (Rizz), Sunday, 9 April 2006 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Al I didn't say shit about iPods, who cares about that? I'm just saying that "consistency" is kind of a soggy ideal. I'm a three true outcomes guy when it comes to rap -- if he strikes out a couple times, so what? At least he's swinging for the fences. Eff batting avg., I'm all about the slugging pctg, and T.I. is Travis Hafner.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 9 April 2006 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Don't try to confuse me with sports terminology I don't understand (because it's working!). Alls I'm saying is that I can't rock it from beginning to end, doesn't mean that I'm "trying really hard" to be disappointed or that I'm even disappointed at all.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:04 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't talking about you, Al! All I said that people who didn't like the record were the ones working really hard; I did not (intentionally) make any other claims than that. Damn, we might have to have another Baltimore FAP to squash this beef.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

haha yeah I know, I was being manipulative and quoting something you said back before I had even commented on the album. Sorry if I came off more hostile than I meant to, no beef to squash. I do agree that "consistency" is probably as slippery and useless a concept to apply to albums as "commercial" or whatever, but I can't think of any other terminology to express the number of lame tracks that I want to skip over.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 9 April 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

ha not smoking, maybe thats the problem. the productions on 3/4 of the album just grate on my ears i.e. they sound "weak" and unfortunately i pay more attention to that than the rapping over top no matter how good it is. might sound harsh, but thats what "album o' the year" pronouncements in april bring out ;0)

tell me that if you had a masta killa or somebody over rza plunking out "for a few dollars more" on a harpsichord and a drunk DMX doing "conan what is good in life" for the chorus people wouldn't be shitting pants over it on ILM.

^^^^wtfrusmoking??????

― smokemon (eman), Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I like Matt's sports analogy a lot actually!

― deeej, Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah once I looked it up and figured out what he meant, I think it's actually a pretty good way to explain his p.o.v.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

beat sounds like the chorus in >>Rahsaan Patterson - Sure Boy

― didde, Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

best song i've heard on the radio this year. hands down. and i think the version i heard on the radio last nite was a remix. or at least they were playing it on the club remix show on my local station. unbelievable song. i will have to read this whole thread now. and go buy it immediately.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:38 (twenty years ago)

man, i thought i was lovin' the new album by da muzicianz, but there isn't any song as good on their album as this one. (is ethan's favorite track on the new muzicianz album "crazy man"?)

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:51 (twenty years ago)

I'd put it second to Crazy for the moment scott, but you could make a good argument.

this reminds me I should get King on Tuesday; I got hooked on Fish Scale and never bothered but this single has been a constant gym companion.

its like triumphant i beat the boss nintendo music isn't it?
-- artdamages (chris.tha()[email protected]), April 5th, 2006.

Ring a ding ding.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 May 2006 03:28 (twenty years ago)

"King Back" sounds like it samples Goblin

― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 28 May 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, after wiki-ing slugging average, that's a totally brilliant metaphor. In fact, I think it might be the best analogy to the quality of a musician as well. After all, isn't this why old fogeys are allowed to shlep their new crap around on tour: because they're only bringing their slugging average down slightly.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Sunday, 28 May 2006 05:08 (twenty years ago)

sea-gull flight monitor mapping mug that ain't good regular talk
see i lis ten t'this song all day % the radio teases wit h it cuz they broadcast whore-destroying r&b on both the urban stations, and they love me, try to psychologize me, except then they played jack on me without the siren and i got an erection.
see where i'm going with this? the block played top back and this song's really quite persuasive if you think about the basic politicagrammatical division between high and low art n america, how extremely neo-conservative the basic disposition, based on the dicipline of the trap, manifests utter repulsion of the middle class and the complexes within, then some dj drama voice drops "FURY FURY FURY FURY" as the sick i'm straight multi-counterpoint soul licks weave together before the drums kick

― 5-8-2026 (pds37), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

why are you posting cam'ron lyrics on t.i.'s thread?

― artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

ok do people still listen to this? i am having a microbrew, making myself dinner and revisiting it.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

whats gayer me or the song with jamie foxx?

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

i've mostly been listening to "what you know" and "why you wanna" since i burnt out on this over the summer, but besides the skits this is flawless.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

man, i thought i was lovin' the new album by da muzicianz, but there isn't any song as good on their album as this one. (is ethan's favorite track on the new muzicianz album "crazy man"?)

scott seward (scott seward) on Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:21 AM (9 months ago)

i wanna know if scott ever listened to this! paging scott...

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

ok do people still listen to this?

Occasionally. (Like once a month.) It's good all the way through, but I wish it was a bit shorter. All the best songs are on the first half so I usually end up only listening through "Top Back". I'm too ADD to go beyond there.

― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

ok i forgot common was on this. wtf. i blame pharrell. the last time i listened to this i thought i heard a q-tip reference, but if thats right i missed it this time. t.i. is a sensitive thug!

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

I like Common, but Common + T.I. = wierd.

― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2007 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

anybody else notice that "what you know" is hey joe... circle of fifths. a friend of mine pointed that out the other day, and i couldn't believe i hadn't noticed that before.

― udbhav, Friday, 9 March 2007 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

"king of the south marries own sister to continue bloodline."

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle) on Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:01 (11 months ago)

lol

― am0n, Friday, 9 March 2007 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Revival of this thread evidence that 2007 is one of the lamest years for hip-hop since ever.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 March 2007 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

is it? i haven't been following any hip-hop this year (or anything else really) so i wouldn't know, but i'll take your word for it. someone tell me when something as good as king comes out again.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

i nver stopped listening to this (and at some point added 'get it').

― lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2007 06:40 (nineteen years ago)

his verse on my love is nice too.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

is it? i haven't been following any hip-hop this year (or anything else really) so i wouldn't know, but i'll take your word for it. someone tell me when something as good as king comes out again.

Yeah, I'm still rocking December '06 stuff (the amazing Pack EP, the Rich Boy singles) and Mistah FAB and none of that stuff is even in the same league as King.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

'get it' is the rawest flow i ever heard from tip

― and what, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

wait there was a the Pack EP? fuck! what is this "get it"? i don't have cable or radio stations that play anything besides country.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Get It" is an album track produced by Swizz Beatz, wasn't a single. And "Good Life" is one of my favorite tracks on the album! Totally wouldn't have expected T.I./Pharrell/Common to be a good combination but it works, on that song at least.

The Pack are terrible but I don't know why they only put out an EP. It's not like they're ever gonna get a better opportunity to push a full-length than off the momentum of that shoe song. It's like Lil Scrappy dropping his album 2 and a half years after "No Problems" hit, wtf.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh get it is from king. i dont know song titles lolz.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

i probably should have remembered cuz its the song where he goes get it get it get it cuz i got it bitch

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

whats the one where he does the fast rap? so versatile!

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

someone must have sampled "mollo tutto" before swizz beats that sounds so familiar.

if you think "vans" is terrible then well have to agree to disagree.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

the beats on the third verse of 'get it' are insanely good, i want to hear them right now. and this is a function of not living there but i am a total total sucker for that georgian drawl that t.i. and rasheeda have, esp when they really exaggerate it and draw those vowels out...mmm.

― lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

the pack dont need much money man. they are very thrifty.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

i like it when ti goes "uh-ayyyyyyy". "uh" is really clipped and the "ayyyy" is really drawlled out.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

RE: goodlife. i like it too and its got some of that weird bouncy housey vibe that why you wanna has, but whenever i heard common i think about the gap and for one thing i thought dude only shopped at thrift stores.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

i need to shut my trap on this thread, but lex is totally on the mark about that southern drawl thing especially when its on top of hyped up synth beats. one time someone asked me if i was from texas cuz i talk really slow and walk even slower.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

ok i take back what i said about goodlife its really just a typical neptunes thing (or one of their things they do). but a new neptunes beat that doesn't make me pissed off must have something going for it.

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

When I listen to this now I skip all the GREAT songs and listen to the good ones and its a really enjoyable album.

― deej, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

goodlife actually gets stuck in my head a lot

― and what, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

so shouldn't this have gotten more attention from everyone everywhere? or is it just that the poptimist/i am feeling chart hip-hop/oldILM wave has crested?

― artdamages, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

newest neptunes beat which doesn't irritate = 'i proceed' by ciara. almost entirely because of ciara herself.

i don't think "poptimists" like r&b or hip-hop any more

― lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Pack released an EP because they are punk fucking rock. What was the last classic hip-hop EP? 100 Miles And Running? Show & AG's Full Clip

It really deserves its own thread.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

kill at will

― deej, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003BWC.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― and what, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c496/c496522ny66.jpg

PUNK!

― Alex in SF, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

^^^that one rules!

― deej, Friday, 9 March 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Creepin' On A Come Up!

When I listen to this now I skip all the GREAT songs and listen to the good ones and its a really enjoyable album.

Oh yeah. King is totally half a great album and half a good album.

― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

question, the beat is one of dj toomp's, yes?

Yes it is, Toomp, formerly one of MC Shy D's DJs on Comin' Correct in '88, and a member of the ODS prodution team that were the 2nd string producers for Luke Records in the late 80s/early 90s.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-122636-002.jpg

― PappaWheelie V, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

nah the beat is by wonder

― rio natsume, Saturday, 10 March 2007 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

I fookin' love the Crystal Waters sample on "Why You Wanna"

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

R.I.P. all of ILM hyperventilating about a popular rap song all at once

― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

love "shoegaze crunk"

― lukas, Thursday, 20 December 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

still rinse it

― pc user, Thursday, 20 December 2007 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

great song for karaoke

― dmr, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

was t.i. vs t.i.p. that bad? i feel like i didn't hear anybody talk about it.

― Jordan, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Naw, it wasn't that bad, it just wasn't that great, either.

― The Reverend, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it was pretty decent, besides the 'T.I. side' in the middle.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

Hearing this track when you're coming up is a treat.

― jim, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

"coming up"?

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

nevermind, I don't think I want to know.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.talktofrank.com/uploadedImages/Drugs/LARGE-PHOTOS_ECSTASY.jpg

― jim, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

this is a really awesome thread

have there been 3 better major label rap albums released since this album?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:58 (sixteen years ago)

recession is the only one on its level in terms of feeling like a 'big' & 'important' album and actually being great?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

well, if Mad Science counts, then DJ Quik-Kurupt's BlaQKout is one.

― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

haha Sarge what's up with all the T.I. revives today

my favorite major label rap albums since King: The Recession, Game Theory, Best Thang Smokin', Underground Kingz. but yeah admittedly most of them lack the zeitgeist Tip had that year.

― #miap4ksclovetofu (some dude), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

ha idk -- putting off doing school work so i read old threads

yeah best thang smokin is prob in my top 15 albums of the decade

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

i guess for a lot of people, the answer to the great & zeitgeisty criteria would be 'carter III' but i don't agree

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

carter III was obv zeitgeisty and like half great but also like half garbage

― what a tragedy for gingers (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

yeah

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

yeah really King was the last time a rapper had a big 'moment' and felt like the center of the universe with an album that actually more or less lived up to the hype and actually showed them at their best. and even before that i feel like it didn't happen as often as you might think.

― #miap4ksclovetofu (some dude), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ ppl referring to basement jaxx over & over in the thread

― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 01:44 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://vimeo.com/13706958

i made this video about hummingbirds

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

i've never seen a hummingbird irl

cool vid

― goole, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

they are so aggro

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

omg amazing! when i chirp shawty chirp back~~

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

haha u know, i didn't even think about that when i picked the track!!

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:17 (fifteen years ago)

That is some sweet hb footage, slocki! It reminds me a lot of my childhood in Wyoming, watching those little jerks divebomb each other in a similarly wooded landscape. They are very aggro birds.

― Warum habt Ihr mich totgefüttert? (Abbott), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

it really comes out how like catty they are when you slow down the video

― titchyschneiderhouserules (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

they are total thugs, the bit at 0:48! (to "you know how we ball", lol)

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

I <3 them.

― Warum habt Ihr mich totgefüttert? (Abbott), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 17:09 (fifteen years ago)

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