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Pick the 12 'best' albums from the past 12 months and see who's the closest. Simon Frith need not apply.

My guess:

Adem - Love and other planets
Lily Allen - Alright, Still
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever you say I am...
Corinne Bailey Rae - Corinne Bailey Rae
Vashti Bunyan - Lookaftering
Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Ballad of the Broken Seas
The Feeling - Twelve Stops and Home
Kieran Hebden & Steve Reid - The Exchange Session Vol. 1
Jesper Kyd - Hitman OST
Paul McCartney - Chaos and Creation in the Backyard
Muse - Black Holes and Revelations
Plan B - Who Needs Action...

With Lily Allen as the winner.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)


As discussed last week on:
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/991668

Some Eligible Albums for the Mercury Music Prize 2006. i.e British or Irish Artists who released an album between July 25th 2005 and July 17th 2006.

my fantasy 12

#1 Akercocke - Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone
#2 Boxcutter - Oneiric
#3 Broadcast - Tender Buttons
#4 Vashti Bunyan - Lookaftering
#5 Burial [GBR] - Burial
#6 Kate Bush - Aerial
#7 Coil - The Ape of Naples
#8 The Neil Cowley Trio - Dis-Placed
#9 Depeche Mode - Playing the Angel
#10 Nathan Fake - Drowning in a Sea of Love
#11 FortDax - Divers
#12 Nine Horses - Snow Borne Sorrow

plus some more suggstions

#13 Leo Abrahams - Honeytrap
#14 Steve Adey - All Things Real
#15 Amit - Never Ending
#16 Antimatter - Planetary Confinement
#17 Richard Barbieri - Things Buried
#18 Beecher - This Elegy His Autopsy
#19 Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
#20 Breakage - This Too Shall Pass
#21 Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out of This Country
#22 Current 93 - Black Ships Ate the Sky
#23 Cursor Miner - Danceflaw
#24 The Durutti Column - Keep Breathing
#25 Elbow - Leaders of the Free World
#26 The Fall - Fall Heads Roll
#27 Field Music - Field Music
#28 Simon Fisher Turner - Lana Lara Lata
#29 Fujiya & Miyagi - Transparent Things
#30 Gravenhurst - Fires in Distant Buildings
#31 Robin Guthrie - Continental
#32 Herbert - Scale
#33 Hot Chip - The Warning
#34 Hystereo - Corporate Crimewave
#35 Immune - 1/F
#36 IZU - Going Salamander
#37 Jimpster - Amour
#38 Killing Joke - Hosannas From the Basements of Hell
#39 Marconi Union - [Distance]
#40 Mogwai - Mr. Beast
#41 Oceansize - Everyone Into Position
#42 Pet Shop Boys - Fundamental
#43 Posthuman - The Peoples Republic
#44 Pure Reason Revolution - The Dark Third
#45 Scritti Politti - White Bread, Black Beer
#46 Sennen - Widows
#47 Alex Smoke - Paradolia
#48 Tunng - Comments of the Inner Chorus
#49 Up-C Down-C Left-C Right-C ABC + Start - And The Battle Is Won
#50 Vector Lovers - Capsule for One
#51 The Workhouse - Flyover
#52 Thom Yorke - The Eraser

Mercury Music Prize 2006
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/djmartian/mercury_music_prize_2006
Some Eligible Albums for the Mercury Music Prize 2006. i.e British or Irish Artists who released an album between July 25th 2005 and July 17th 2006.


My guesses of what they will select

12 Nominations

Arctic Monkeys
Lily Allen
Vashti Bunyan
Kate Bush
Field Music
Herbert
Hot Chip
Muse
Corrine Boring Rae
Sway
Thom Yorke
Token Jazz: Neil Cowley Trio

plus 12 Outsiders: some of these may sneak in

Broadcast
Camera Obscura
Depeche Mode
Nathan Fake
Guillemots
Richard Hawley
Mystery Jets
Nine Horses
Pet Shop Boys
Pure Reason Revolution
Scritti Politti
Tunng

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

If the Mercury Music Prize overlook Four Tet what chance Adem?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

re: Kieran Hebden & Steve Reid - The Exchange Session Vol. 1

Steve Reid is American.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

re: The Feeling - Twelve Stops and Home

the most boring new Brit band of 2006.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

re: Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Ballad of the Broken Seas

Mark Lanegan is American

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Scritti Politti


Green is german.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

the most boring new Brit band of 2006.

you've not heard The Kooks then?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

Billy Dods, Do you reckon EMI have entered Kate Bush? I am surprised she is not on your list.

she is rather publicity shy.

Also miserable morrissey, do you reckon his record company have entered him?

Imagine Mozza and Kate Bush on the shortlist !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

The Kooks are just teenager fad NME fodder.

However sadly certain music journalists/ publications are praising the AOR sound of The Feeling.

The Mercury Prize have shortlisted bland bands before, check: Athlete, Turin Brakes, and Keane.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gonna guess at Plan B as this year's winner, to be honest. Assuming he gets the token urban nod ahead of Sway.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Scritti Politti's Green was born in Wales

Green Gartside AKA Paul Julian Strohmeyer - yes German surname

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Herbert isn't eligible surely?

It'll be the Arctic Monkeys or Lily Allen this year, I reckon. Last year was their curveball year.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

I pondered Kate Bush but I thought they may go for Macca as the token old timer and partly for the sympathy vote. I know Lanegan and Reid are Americans but I don't think that'll stop them, didn't stop Suffolk lad Anthony. Adem, media friendly face of nu-folk and chance to compete with Hebden looks too good to resist.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, David Gilmour may be this year's token old guy.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

The Mercury Music Prize likes debut albums: so high media profile debuts [Lily Allen, Arctic Monkeys, Corinne Boring Rae, The Feeling and unfortunately The Kooks] are most likely to be nominated.

but will any of these lesser known debuts make the shortlist?

Nathan Fake
Field Music
The Guillemots
Hot Chip
The Mystery Jets
Pure Reason Revolution

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

The Beach Boys will finally win it this year.

― m.p.a. (m.p.a.), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

wrong competition, you mean the mojo honours, pal

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I was just joking.

― m.p.a. (m.p.a.), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why wouldn't Herbert be eligible?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Because he makes some of the worst music ever?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's unheard of for the winner of the Mercury to be rubbish.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 17 July 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Herbert = Giles Peterson sophisticated music

I thought, Dom's idea of worst music was:

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s343690.jpg

Who are eligible for this year's nominations as the album was released July 25th 2005.

However if Edith Bowman is still on the selection panel, this creates a conflict of interest.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

There's M People/Badly Drawn Boy rubbish, and then there's Matthew Herbert rubbish, which is a whole new level of pain.

Apparently Lanegan/Campbell is a lock to be nominated according to "those" in the "biz".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

putting the Herbert album on the list ahead of Roisin's album would be pretty stupid.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

actually 'Ruby Blue' probably too old now. but still.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Neither album is going to be nominated anyway. Campbell/Laneghan is a better call - as there's at least one British person involved.

For some reason I thought Herbert was Canadian - a quick Google reveals this isn't the case.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

those lists are total garbage. is the mercury prize an industry consolation prize or something?

― lf (lfam), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i see, it's a british thing

― lf (lfam), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I once read an account of the operations of mercury music prize by a previous panelist. The day / evening? before the shortlist announcement, they have a group meeting chaired by Frith where they whittle down the 130 / 150 / 170 whatever albums entered down to the 12 shortlist - with each panelist having their say, working towards some sort of group consensus.

sometime in June each panelist gets batch delivered all the CDs entered into the competition via Securicor. So they have something like 4 - 6 weeks to make some sort of individual assessment of the 12 albums they should select.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Too much interest is taken in it. I know I say this every year.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry, it's more than likely that tomorrow many of us will be laughing at some of the selections as per usual. Every year they botch the shortlist up.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Martian, your annual PLANK FRITH IGNORES DARKWAVE AGAIN posting is a personal highlight of each and any year, for me.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 17 July 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

re: Mark Lanegan and Steve Reid

Rules are Rules, these are not British/Irish artists so not eligible. Whatever next the daft, Andy Gill in The Independent suggesting American Scott Walker:

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article1174207.ece

I'd imagine the actual contenders will include some or all of the following: Lily Allen, Arctic Monkeys, Kate Bush, Goldfrapp, Richard Hawley, Morrissey, Muse, Plan B, Scott Walker and Paul Weller. My own alternative shortlist appears below, although I hope that none of them wins it.

...except on The Independent website his alternative shortlist was not listed, did anyone buy The Independent last friday?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

DARKWAVE, there ain't no darkwave on my list FFS ! if you want darkwave read Mick Mercer on livejournal or buy a fanzine/magazine at Resurrection Records in Camden ;-)

However Peter Murphy should have been shortlisted in 2002 for Dust.


PS in a year's time, Tim you will be hoping indie-jingle-jangle merchants Bricolage [AKA Orange Juice Karaoke] will be nominated

http://www.myspace.com/bricolagetheband

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ex-Portsmouth DARREN ANDERTON made a great drill and bass album for Rephlex this year. Will Frith nominate him or concentrate on music for 12-year old NME kids like Arctic Monkeys and Joe Cole????

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Matt DC wipe that smug "talvin singh" type grin from your face now. As Mozza once sang in the 80s, "that joke isn't funny anymore"

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

drill and bass, that's so 1998 ! as was Darren Anderton at the WC in 98. Move on that was 8 years ago.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I already hope indie jingle jangle merchants Bricolage [AKA Orange Juice Karaoke] will be nominated, though I dearly hope I never have to listen to them.

Also DJM I have never heard of 6 of your fantasy 12 and the only sane working definiton of darkwave is "bands I've never heard of who DJ Martian likes".

I'm surprised your fantasy 12 doesn't include Nicolas Anelka, mind.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 17 July 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Surprised no-one's suggested King Creosote or Jim Noir yet, both seem like sensible pops to be on there. Noir might even be a solid outside bet to win the whole thing.

i'd like the Arab Strap album to win. Not in a month of Sundays, though.

Yr big headline tomorrow: MERCURY SNOBS SNUB PEOPLE'S CHAMP DAME SANDI THOM: Plucky Tooting Basement She-Ra "Only Fit For Proles And Heathens" Claims Heartless Frith-Whiley-Holland-Headed Cerberean Hellhound

And the eventual winner... eh, Guillemots seem as likely as anyone.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 17 July 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like Scritti Politti to win it! Can't think of a better British album from the last twelve months.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 17 July 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have thrashed out a suggested ILM Mercury consensus 12 to reflect the diversity of the past 12 months

1. Breakage - This Too Shall Pass [Marcello's drum n bass faves]

2. Broadcast - Tender Buttons [In the top 10 2005 ILM albums poll]

3. Kate Bush - Aerial [In the top 10 2005 ILM albums poll]

4. Burial [GBR] - Burial [dubstep faves, we also read Dissensus types]

5. Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out of This Country [Twee faves]

6. Depeche Mode - Playing the Angel [Ned's faves]

7. Nathan Fake - Drowning in a Sea of Love [Hipster faves]

8. Pet Shop Boys - Fundamental [for old skool popists]

9. Rachel Stevens - Come and get it [for new skool popists]

10. Killing Joke - Hosannas From the Basements of Hell [for AlexinNYC - honour the fire ! or else]

11. Nine Horses - Snow Borne Sorrow [for People in their 30s/ 40s who read Mojo, Uncut and The Wire]

12. Scritti Politti - White Bread, Black Beer [Jerrythenipper wrote a review in Uncut and many ilm folk rate the album]

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

re: Rachel Stevens - Come and get it

this made the ILM top 20 albums of 2005.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

NME get on the prediction bandwagon, but have difficulty counting to 12, they list 15

http://www.nme.com/news/antony-and-the-johnsons/23632

Arctic Monkeys - 'Whatever People Say I Am That's What I'm Not'
Babyshambles - 'Down In Albion'
Corinne Bailey Rae - 'Corinne Bailey Rae'
Editors - 'In The Back Room'
Girls Aloud - 'Chemistry'
Hot Chip - 'The Warning'
Guillemots - 'Through the Windowpane'
Jim Noir - 'Tower Of Love'
Kate Bush - 'Aerial'
Morrissey - 'Ringleader Of The Tormentors'
Plan B - 'Who Needs Actions When You Got Words'
Richard Hawley - 'Coles Corner'
The Kooks - 'Inside In/Inside Out'
The Longcut - 'The Longcut'
The Streets - 'The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living'

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

If Babyshambles or The Streets are nominated, I'll eat a window.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

"Down In Albion" Shambolic Shite

The Streets - More useless spoken yapping by a one trick pony

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

SO its Lily Allen or the shittingly twee Guillemots then? OMM will be proud (yawn)

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

gekoppel, do you know if kode 9 entered Burial for the Mercury prize ?

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s555192.jpg

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've got no idea as to whether he has, or as to how the mechanism of selection operates- is it right that labels just submit them? You sound like you've got a better idea than me!

All the same, I would love it to win tho...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

labels / or individual artists/ groups can submit - there is an admin fee to enter.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm- you could try emailing the suggestion to him (have look for contact details on the hyperdub website)? Or is it too late...?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's too late now ! deadline has long gone ! Mind you it would be interesting to find out via the dubstep forum if the album was entered.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

The 12 shortlist is announced 11.30am tomorrow.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

no burial ! I don't believe it, kode 9 didn't enter Burial !

http://unarocks.blogspot.com/2006/07/nationwide-mercury-prize.html

aka The Mercury Music Prize. The shortlist is out tomorrow, here's the 'longlist'

Abigail Hopkins
Adem
Akala
Alex Smoke
Amusement Parks on Fire
And did those feet
Andrew McCormack
Angie Palmer
Archie Bronson Outfit
Arctic Monkeys*
Barbar Luck
Barry Adamson
Belle and Sebastian
Beth Orton
Blackbud
Bliss
Boards of Canada
Boo Hewerdine
Boy Kill Boy
Caged Baby
Camera Obscura
Cara Dillon
Charlie Beresford
Chicken Legs Weaver
Chris Wood
Claire Sproule
Clayhill
Clearlake
C-Mone
Coldcut
Corrine Bailey Ray*
Cosmic Rough Riders
David Ford
David Gilmour
David Gray
Dawn of the Replicants
Declan O’Rourke
Decoration
Depeche Mode
Dirty Pretty Things
duw a wyr
Ed Harcourt
Editors*
eighteen18
Elbow
Elvis Costello & Allen Toussaint
Endrick Bothers
Field Music
Fink
Flook
Forward Russia
Four Day Hombre
Franc O’Shea
Franz Ferdinand
Future Funk Squad
Genesis Elijah
Girls Aloud
Gledhill
Goldfrapp*
Gomez
Graham Coxon
Gravenhurst
Guillemots*
Helene
Heligoland
Hey Negrita
Hope of the States
Hot Chip*
Humanzi
Infadels
Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan
James Hunter
James Roberts
Jamie Cullum
Jane Taylor
Janis Haves
Jim Moray
Jim Noir
Jo Mango
Joanna Macgregor & Andy Sheppard
Jody Wildgoose
John Tamms
Johnny Dickinson
Jon Boden
Julia Biel
Julie Feeney*
Karine Polwart
Kate Bush
Kate Westbrook
Kathryn Tickell & Corina Hewat
Keane
Keisha White
Killa Kela
King Creosote
Kristy McGee
Ladyfuzz
Lee Rogers
Lethal Bizzle
Leya
Liane Carroll
Lily Allen*
Lost Prophets
Lou Rhodes
Marc Carroll
Marsha Swanson
Martyn Joseph
Matthew Herbert
Medicine Hat
Merz
Miracle Mile
Mogwai
Mohair
Morning Runner
Morrissey
Muse*
My Awesome Compilation
My Latest Novel
Mystery Jets
Nate James
Nerina Pallot*
Netsayi
Nine Horses
Niraj Chag
Omar
Oriole
Paolo Nutini
Paparazzi Whore
Paul McCartney
Paul Weller
Pet Shop Boys
Placebo
Plan B*
Primal Scream
Psapp
Public Symphony
Quinn
R.O.C.
Ralfe Band
Ray Davies
Razorlight
Reem Kelani
Richard Ashcroft
Richard Hawley
Richard Thompson
Rick Oliver
Robbie Williams
Roddy Frame
Rolling Stones
Rory McLeod
Saint Jude's infirmary
Sandi Thom
Scott Matthews
Scritti Politti
Shack
Shelley Poole
Shibuya Crossings
Show of Hands
Shri
Snow Patrol
Softhearted Scientists
Sol Seppy
Sophie Solomon
Spiers & Boden
Stephanie Kirkham
Steve Tilson
Stig
Stoney
Supergrass
Susy Thomas
Swap
Sway
Sweet Billy Pilgrim
Tarik O’Regan
Ted Barnes
Teddy Thompson
Tennant & Lowe
Terri Walker
The Automatic*
The Basement
The Beauty Room
The Charlatans
The Crimea
The Delays
The Divine Comedy
The Eighteenth Day of May The Feeling
The Futureheads
The Hazey Janes
The Kooks
The Longcut
The Loose Cannons
The Mitchell Brothers
The Neil Cowley trio
The Pipettes
The R.G. Morrison
The Rakes
The Research
The Rifles
The Storys
The Streets
The Upper Room
The Webb sisters
The Zutons
Thom Yorke
Tim van Eyken
Tony Kofi
Towers of London
Trio Gitano
Tunng*
Two Giraffes
Urban Myth Club
Van Morrison
Various*
Vashti Bunyan
White Rose Movement
Wills and the Willing
Zero 7
Zoë Rahman

* UnaRocks tips for nomination

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - was entered ! did they forget to check the passport of Mark L ;-)

Some artists / albums mentioned on this thread that were NOT entered

Broadcast - i am shocked Warp didn't enter this album !
Boxcutter
FortDax
Nathan Fake - another shock !
Killing Joke
Oceansize
Pure Reason Revolution - SonyBMG ! didn't enter them !
Rachel Stevens - another shock !

Others not entered:

Leo Abrahams, Steve Adey, Amit, Antimatter, Richard Barberi, Beecher, Breakage, Coil, Current 93, Cursor Miner, Durutti Column, The Fall, Simon Fisher-Turner, Fujiya & Miyagi, Robin Guthrie, Hystereo, Immune, IZU, jimpster, Marconi Union, posthuman, Sennen, Workhouse

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Towers of London

lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I also have a horrid feeling the token black artist this year is going to be Killa fucking Kela.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Please please please no.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Please please please no--- but is the "turn" for some urban musician... maybe Plan B? He's pretty hyped I guess...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

so about 225 Albums entered, I think this is a record number of entrants !

A few years back it was mentioned that 170 albums entered.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Well three of my guesses weren't even entered, Kieren Hebden/Steve Reid, Jesper Kyd and most surprisingly The Feeling.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

gekoppel, i bet the dubstep community are gutted or should that be gutter-break-ed that Burial was apparently not entered !

The Feeling are listed, check the line break error on the blog

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I reckon Dawn of the Replicants will win it, and if not them then The Loose Cannons. You heard it here first.

Not much token classical/jazz/folk on that list--any that have entered have got a good chance to get on the shortlist at least. Maybe Spiers and Boden can be token folkies this year bcz they are actually OK.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Eighteenth Day of May The Feeling

is two bands:

The Eighteenth Day of May
The Feeling

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Plan B is my guess as well... if Lallen hadn't have had the #1 single and "Smile" had charted at, I dunno, #17 she'd probably have walked it.

I mean, URBANNNN wise, who is there this year? There's Plan B (singles didn't go top 40, got a top 40 album), Sway (the complete opposite), Lethal B (he put an album out? wtf?), The Mitchell Brothers are about as likely a nomination as the fucking Towers of London... I can't call it.

If they just go "White is right" again, I'm thinking Pipettes or Guillemots. They both seem to have a lot more mileage in their careers to run, and the Mercury loves giving artists the "foot up" to the next level. Like Ms Dyna oh wait.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Guillemots seems disturbingly likely. Yuck.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

HIS NAME IS A BIT LIKE THE SORT OF NAME A SPY MIGHT HAVE ISN'T IT? HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS? I WAS UNAWARE OF WHETHER THE 459,212 INTERVIEWS WITH THE GILLMOUTHS THAT MENTION THIS IN THE OPENING PARAGRAPH MAY HAVE MADE IT CLEAR ENOUGH YET.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

225 longlist, down to 12 shortlist - it's a lottery ! but those 12 selected are going to shedloads of PR / Marketing / In-store / e-commerce promotions

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Considering how tepid Plan B seems compared to Dizzee, that makes me think he would not win (although it might be like when they gave it to Talvin Singh rather than ADF).

And I assumed Sol Seppy were American for some reason.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Plan B does come from a different line of rap to Dizzee though, his obvious antecedents are all the Lowlife "Junkies smoking crack 'rahnd the council estaaaaaaaate" Brit-hop stuff.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

but it's not like the Mercury jury will care about that.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

My guess is David Cameron will be a "big fan" of whatever wins it this year.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

but it's not like the Mercury jury will care about that.

actually i think they would. in that they might agree that Plan B is not being inventive enough compared to Dizzee (i think the production on Plan B album is OK tho based on what i've heard - uh, two singles).

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Dizzee is probably the only album from the last few years that was deserving, but its just an award isn't it, judged by a bunch of people you probably don't like, so why expect something good? Guillemots are the whitebreadsupremecist's choice...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

But if the Guillemots get it, hopefully the curse of the Mercuries will crush their career before it has even begun...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Arctic Monkeys at a canter, put your shirt on 'em.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Best selling album of the year in the Mercuries = Tony McCoy in the Grand National.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Monkeys are prob'ly carrying more middle-aged hipster cache than the last few years great white indie hopes. Teenagers + "politics" + Rock's Not Dead innit?

McCoy's gotta win one eventually.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

yes Noodle Vague, but stick your neck out and make 11 more predictions for the shortlist.

More predictions !

blogger, sweeping the nation:
http://tinyurl.com/mufr7

Arctic Monkeys, Corinne Bailey Rae, David Gilmour, Guillemots, Hot Chip, Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan, Jim Moray, Lily Allen, Plan B, Richard Hawley, Scritti Politti and Spiers & Boden.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I predict:

Arctic Monkeys
Corinne Bailey Rae
Girls Aloud
Guillemots
Hot Chip
Jon Boden
Kate Bush
Muse
Plan B
Richard Hawley
The Feeling
The Pipettes

Possible substitutes: Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan, Kooks, Lily Allen.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if "Rock's not dead" is as important to the Radio 2 crowd as "realness" is though. I mean, Mondeo man would rather listen to Kanye than McFly, right?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost

I'm not really interested in the shortlist, Martian. Not really interested in the awards except as a betting proposition. You can say with a reasonable degree of certainty what quotas the shortlist will fill: beyond that it's any 12 from 30-or-so interchangeable records.

But in Mondeo World, McFly aren't Rock.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Or in other words the boundaries of Rock have been stretched as a matter of necessity, but given the opportunity to slather over something that's credible but 100% guitar, bass, drums I think they'll jump at it.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Well, at what point to them does a facsimile of something become real/fake then? 20%? 50%? 80%? There was a dreadful piece about singer-songwriters in the OMM this month, and it was all "Hey, James Blunt's not a real singer-songwriter because he's not COOL LIKE JIM NOIR AND KING FUCKING CREOSOTE ARE", which probably feeds into this.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Credibility is subjective, but lumpen arrangements are forever.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Slang terms include cred, street cred, and indie credibility. The last of which is crucial for an independent band to be critically well received. For example, many critics, such as Stephen Thomas Erlewine in his lengthy review, decried Liz Phair's loss of credibility after the release of her eponymous album, featuring co-production and co-songwriting by teenpop producers of The Matrix as well as indie-credible Pete Yorn and Michael Beckham.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I think I'm missing the point, which is that the Monkeys are passably "real" because of the youth and Northern Accents. You just have to want "real" enough to suspend your snarky disbelief.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't that seem the oddest thing though that the AMs are basically asking the audience to believe in fairies, in order to prove how real they are? It's like going to the Rocky Horror show dressed up in drag and then talking about how accurate a portrayal of modern life the show is.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe the two groups most prepared to engage in suspension of disbelief are teenagers and late 30-somethings. The former because they want to feel they belong to a clan, or want to find something that "speaks for them", and the latter because they desperately want to be teenagers again. And there's the AM's core audience.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

on that long list, Various are mentioned.

Various = Various Production
on XL
Maybe a dark horse?

VARIOUS PRODUCTION - The World Is Gone
XL
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=22578

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Last year Kasiser Chiefs were Heat magazine's album of the year, I'd guess it'd be the AMs... I'm wondering if Heat culture kinda breeds fanbases for bands like these, people think they have to have something "real" in their cultural intake to balance out the Paul Danans, but at the end of the day it's just ordering a Diet Coke with your fish supper, surely?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, there's obviously a need for an Indie Band du Jour. But I don't know as the Karsie Chiefs translated that into critical acclaim from the Nerd Critics, whereas I'm pretty sure the Arctic Monkeys have. Which is why I think they've got such a strong chance: cos every elitist wants to show they can be populist every now and then, and the Monkeys seem to straddle that line, maybe even more so than Franz did the other year.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

is Sway realler than the Monkeys, Dom? who listens to the Monkeys, do you think it's only studnets and people who have been students?

― pscott (elwisty), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, this is the thing, hip-hop has always had more of a showmanship element to it than indie has, but I'm probably more likely to take tales of gritty urban living from a Ghanaian immigrant living in North London than I am a bunch of teachers' sons from Sheffield...

The advantage that the AMs had over the Kaisers when it came to the Nerd Critics is that the AMs had a much smoother path to fame than the KCs (who were tour tour tour oh wait hit record, which is kinda hard to predict). I mean, even while the AMs were having newspaper front pages and #1 singles shifting big units there were American music writers going "Now, my spies in England tell me there's this new underground band who could be huge within a couple of months. Only two people have ever heard their music so far..." Wait for the album to turn up in the States, 9/10 it, "Oh look, I've succesfully predicted the rise of a popular new band because I can spot TRENDS. Please give me a job in PR"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

were oasis in '94 realler than the monkeys in '05?

― pscott (elwisty), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

We're talking about the perception of realness amongst people who believe in it, I think. I'm just saying that I think that means the AMs have a good chance of making the Mercury judges think (and vote) the same way.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Oasis have ever been anything less than depressingly real.

(xp)

Oh, I do agree with that, I just think that the Mercury panel have a hardon for "helping bands reach the next level of success", and what the fuck level of success is there left for the AMs to climb to? Basically, it's taking either Radiohead or Coldplay's crown, and a fucking Mercury prize ain't gonna do that.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

I never thought of the Mercury judges having a mission to help underachievers. I guess the last few years' results mostly bear that out (tho it didn't start that way, obv). I always thought of them more as the musical wing of Habitat. Maybe it varies from year to year...

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone but the Arctic Sodding Monkeys. But from a gambling point of view, are they not relatively likely given the form of the two previous winners they most closely resemble: Franz and Oasis?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 17 July 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think they're the most likely favourites for a few years. Course, that means you'll get shit odds.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

x posts

but you seem to be making a jump from merely discussing perceptions of the band to offering up a "real" pereception of the band. ie how could they understand the real problems of real people in the real world what with being teachers sons?

oasis ain't won it

― pscott (elwisty), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

They do have a clear perception of the problems of kids who want to go into newsagents more than 2 at a time.

― More Tongue Feldman (noodle vague), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Death of the author Paul, innit?

xp

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Worst 12 Shortlist Scenario from that Long List: The Mercury Shitlist:

Jamie Cullum
Dirty Pretty Things
The Feeling
Keane
The Kooks
Lost Prophets
The Mitchell Brothers
Nerina Pallot
Primal Scream
Sandi Thom
Tower of London
Paul Weller

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

hey this thread is probably gonna be round 5827 of the ongoing UK POP WAR if the main protagonists turn up tomoz. exciting.

― pscott (elwisty), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Bands on the list listened to by AUTHENTIC REAL BLACK KIDS ON AUTHENTIC REAL BUSSES?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 July 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes when i read threads like this, i feel that actually dom is on the right side, but then he does things like slag off ciara so i don't know!

the mmp gets criticised often for not being the "voice of the people" or wvs so i can see arctic monkeys winning on that basis.

i have still never heard an arctic monkeys song! :D

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

also i've completely forgotten who won it last year.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, Beth Orton's album will be on the final 12, it's the rules.

MrSrsly, Lily Allen won't be, as stated upthread she's number 1 in the singles, probably number one on the albums chart come sunday, it's not going to be necessary.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Bands on the list listened to by AUTHENTIC REAL BLACK KIDS ON AUTHENTIC REAL BUSSES?

in my experience they only listen to American music.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

hey this thread is probably gonna be round 5827 of the ongoing UK POP WAR if the main protagonists turn up tomoz. exciting.

In which case can I belatedly call Martian a racist for his 'Talvin Singh' comment upthread? Good.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

It was an uncharacteristically odd comment, I must say.

Scott Walker's an interesting case - he's been resident in the UK since '65 but is he still an American citizen (thinking of the kerfuffle over Antony last year)? I doubt The Drift would get on the shortlist, though, unless they revive the token contemporary classical slot.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

NME.com readers have spoken: The Mercury Music Prize: your shortlist
http://www.nme.com/news/franz-ferdinand/23638

Amongst those suggested, you named The Mystery Jets' 'Making Dens', Tunng's 'Comments Of The Inner Chorus', Psapp's 'Only Thing I Ever Wanted', The Automatic's 'Not Accepted Anywhere' and Franz Ferdinand's 'You Could Have It So Much Better' as those worthy of receiving a nomination.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Automatic may be a decent guess as well actually, although zany don't sell at the Mercuries usually.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

It is good for DJ Martian to be uncharacteristic once in a while bcz he is so often characteristic.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:33 (nineteen years ago)

6 music are useless, they ae carry on their regular show with no shortlist build up.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

That's out of order, I hope their entire family dies a painful death.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

They have now got an oz band Sleepy Jackson ! in session.

6 Music are useless !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

They should have been discussing the build up, listener suggestions, playing some tracks from possible shortlisted artists etc.

6 Music lacks creativity.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

i keep trying to do my own shortlist but keep including germans and americans by accident. however:

girls aloud
rachel stevens
kate bush
sway
alex smoke
part 2

some other people, i have NO IDEA WHO, clearly british people just don't make good music any more

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, everyone knows 6 Music is useless! That's why no-one except you (apparently) listens to it!

They, like the rest of us, should ignore the Mercury Music PRoize more.

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

You'll make CarsmileSteve cry.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

This is the first time in 3 months ? that i have listened to 6 music during a week day

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

Per NME.com, the actual proper non-speculative shortlist:

Mercury Music prize short list announced
Check out 2006's runners and riders now

The nominations for this year's Nationwide Mercury Music Prize have been revealed this morning (July 18).

At a small ceremony at the Royal Commonwealth Club in London, Jools Holland announced the 12 albums that will battle it out for this year's prize.


The nominations are:

Arctic Monkeys - 'Whatever People Say I Am That's What I'm Not'
Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan - 'Ballad Of The Broken Seas'
Editors - 'In The Back Room'
Guillemots - 'Through The Windowpane'
Richard Hawley - 'Coles Corner'
Hot Chip - 'The Warning'
Muse - 'Black Holes & Revelations'
Zoe Rahman - 'Melting Pot'
Lou Rhodes - 'Beloved One'
Scritti Politti - 'White Bread Black Beer'
Sway - 'This Is My Demo'
Thom Yorke - 'The Eraser'

Revealing this year's nominees, chair of judges Simon Frith hailed the artists for reflecting contemporary life.

"Above all, this year's shortlist for the Nationwide Mercury Prize is about the art of the songwriter," he said. "If you want to know what life is like in Britain today, listen to the country's musicians!"

The overall winner of the £20,000 prize will be announced on September 5.

Following the announcement bookies William Hill have immediately installed Arctic Monkeys and Thom Yorke as 5-1 joint favourites, with Muse, Editors and Guillemots are close behind them at 6-1.

Last year's prize was won by Antony & the Johnsons for the album 'I Am A Bird Now'.

― ian p is playing at my house (ian p is playing at my house), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

as in Monday - Friday daytime

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah hot chip of course!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Sway's going to win it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

i must get the sway album otherwise it'll become one of those albums i intend to buy for seven years without ever getting round to it, like mama's gun and homework

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

confirmed
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5188692.stm

# The full shortlist is: Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
# Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Ballad Of The Broken Seas
# Editors - The Back Room
# Guillemots - Through The Windowpane
# Richard Hawley - Coles Corner
# Hot Chip - The Warning
# Muse - Black Holes And Revelations
# Zoe Rahman - Melting Pot
# Lou Rhodes - Beloved One
# Scritti Politti - White Bread, Black Beer
# Sway - This Is My Demo
# Thom Yorke - The Eraser

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I know who I shall be betting on!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

Glyn! He's 7/1

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

ok so normally i hate indie men and can deal with indie women slightly better. but i fucking hate belle & sebastian, but quite enjoy mark lanegan. so will i like the isobel & mark album?

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

obv i must cheer for scritti politti though (nb must actually get round to hearing some of their stuff soon)

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

Lou Rhodes = ex Lamb

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

I have a funny feeling Scritti might win this.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE IS K8 BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

well BBC News can report it, 6 Music has a useless oz band Sleepy Jackson doing an impersonation of a drowing cat and no announcement

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

Good call on The Editors DJ M. I'd love to see Richard Hawley win, but it ain't going to happen, I think The Guillemots will get it. Who are Zoe Rahman and Lou Rhodes?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

Not listened to: Zoe Rahman - Melting Pot

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't know lou rhodes had released a solo album. trip-hop revival = UPON US

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

bat for lashes for next year's mmp!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

i think he has gone a bit jazzy

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think Ric Blaxill Head of 6 Music should be sacked

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Bat for lashes are like some diabolical laboratory experiment to splice K8 with MIA for the sole purpose of dementing the Lex.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

Zoe Rahman - Melting Pot = token jazz.

Lou Rhodes? Does anyone care about this LP?

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

Lou Rhodes! And I liked the first Lamb album. Scritti is going to win it.

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

I've not heard the Lanegan/Campbell but I'm sort of assuming it's full of morbid ballads about an innocent young girl living with an evil old alcoholic pervert. Would this be a safe assumption?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

i have to approve of Bat For Lashes out of loyalty to my 1997 self, which would have considered a trip-hop tori amos the very pinnacle of music. also more fodder for the whole trip-hop revival thing. she is not very exciting otherwise, though.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

also she comes from a famous squash family

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Guardian review

Zoe Rahman - Melting Pot
http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,1644811,00.html
From their jazz critic only 3 stars

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

Thom Yorke - The Eraser - I was right that they would take the easy option of a big name

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

go Zoe, then! About time the tokenist nominee won.

(nah, actually Scritti should win)

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)

6 music still haven't announced them, now playing aural tedium - Snow Patrol

Mark Sutherland finally chimes in at 12.06

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Token Dance
Token Jazz
Token Urban
Token "will be ignored as failed to give award when it should have been blindingly obvious in previous year"
Token "will probably win undeservedly as failed to give award when it should have been blindingly obvious in previous year"

*slap* every fucking year!!

can't help thinking Kate Bush never stood a chance after being ignored by The Brits for KT Turnstile... face it "Aerial" = commercial flop, and ££ is all that counts.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

According to Mark Sutherland, The Arctic Monkeys debut is is a landmark album. More like generic basic trad rock with daft yorkshire accent vocals.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

Arctic Monkeys, see also: Mylo = a decent enough little record blown WAAAAAY out proportion in value & hype because the UK (not just the media) desperately wants something to get behind to prove it's still "the shit" and not just... a bit shit.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the Pop, sorry, Racistjustice £20 Prize nominees:

Now in its fourth year, the £20 Music Prize rewards the creator of the best British pop single of the last twelve months with twenty quid, cash.

This year's shortlist is:

'Biology' - Girls Aloud
'DARE' - Gorillaz
'Destroy Everything You Touch' - Ladytron
'I Said Never Again (But Here We Are)' - Rachel Stevens
'Number One' - Goldfrapp
'Over & Over' - Hot Chip
'Push The Button' - Sugababes
'Smile' - Lily Allen
'Supermassive Black Hole' - Muse
'Up All Night' - Matt Willis
'Valentine' - The Delays
'Who Am I?' - Will Young

The winner will be decided at a special judging ceremony in London on September 5.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

pompous comments from Simon Frith:

http://www.nme.com/news/nme/23636

Revealing this year's nominees, chair of judges Simon Frith hailed the artists for reflecting contemporary life.

"Above all, this year's shortlist for the Nationwide Mercury Prize is about the art of the songwriter," he said. "If you want to know what life is like in Britain today, listen to the country's musicians!"

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

no of black people on mmp list = 1
no of black people on rj list = 1 (as one third of predominantly white act)

window of botherd about either list = closed

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

You can now read the Simon Frith chaired Judging Panel's pompous comments of the 12 shortlisted albums: Nationwide Mercury Prize

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm... 5 correct predictions out of 12, plus 1 from my reserve list. (Bah, Token Urban went to Sway not Plan B.)

Biggest surprise omissions: Kate Bush, Girls Aloud (there's usually a Token Pop), and only one selection (Zoe Rahman) from the Genres That Will Never Win category (we usually get a Token Folk or Token
Classical to stick alongside the Token Jazz).

Biggest suprise inclusions: Scritti Politti, Her Out Of Lamb.

Dreariest inclusion: Editors.

Most welcome exclusions: Lily Allen, Corinne Bailey Rae.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

shitter than shit inclusion - sway

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

(there's usually a Token Pop)

there is?? GA never had any chance at all of making an MMP list.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

no belle and sebastian ?
what is that isobel campbell record doing on there?

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

They obviously forgot to check Mark L's passport

Someone should complain, get it kicked out for breaking eligibility rulez and replaced with something else !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Also why did Placebo enter the competition ? check the long list above.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's mostly 'driven' by Isobel, isn't it?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Conor McNicholas reckons that Lily Allen should have been on the Mercury shortlist.

He is just saying that because he put her on the front cover of the NME last week.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Scritti. Green better win.

Re: Lily Allen: Parlophone strategy is not to give a shit about the Mercury and to concentrate on the Brits.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

If that's their strategy, why they bother putting it forward?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I've changed my mind about Scritti winning - I dunno if they would give it to Rough Trade two years in a row...

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Who is on the panel this year? Why is it so hard to find out? (You can tell me Frith, I know y're lurking.)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

a priority as part of an overall strategy - semantics innit !

it would have been a bonus, but the Brits are the big money spinner.

Mercuries = more media coverage for 25-45 demographics. However Lily is number 1 in the pop charts she already has media coverage, and maybe a younger/ different target audience.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Mr Frith popped in one year on an ILM Mercury thread, so do you reckon he will be media monitoring this thread?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's waht I reckon. In fact I think he's OBSSESSED.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

no of black people on rj list = 1 (as one third of predominantly white act)

Sure. The world is only black and white.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Both Gorillaz and Sugababes have black members. Lex in WHITENING OF BLACK ARTISTS shock.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Plus Rachel Stevens is a Joo.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

gorillaz = damon allbran and who else?

sugababes, yes, that's what i said.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/da/Gorillaz_group.jpg

A black person, top left.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

that's not a real person dom. that's a cartoon.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hung up on 'realness' eh? Anti-poppist.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Alex James on Albarn - "the blackest man in west London."

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-b-b-but call-me-dave lives in notting hill!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

You are a nutter.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

just by the by, like.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Damon Albarn is so black, he uses a bus when he can actually afford to take the tube everywhere in London.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

everywhere?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

apart from the East End where is most certainly not welcome.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

you can't take the tube to hackney however much you can afford it

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hackney is dear to Lex's heart because it's only a few miles away from CAMDEN.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

scritti politti are the most hackney band on the shortlist!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

where's Sway from/living?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Ghana/Haringey

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

hornsey i think. north, anyway

xp

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Danger Mouse is black, and he produced the whole Gorillaz album. Or is he not black enough for you? And what black British pop records would you suggest instead? I'm not sure whether this whole racistjustice thing is meant to be a running joke or if you actually mean it.

― Dorian Lynskey (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

'does lex mean it?' pt XXIV

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.supmag.com/checkit/dangermouse.jpg

almost as white as Ice-T!

And what black British pop records would you suggest instead?

Unfortunately it seems Roll Deep were too late for last year and too early for this year. Some great pop moments on 'In At The Deep End', no foolin'

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is this indicative of how predictable the Mercury shortlist has become

all of the Cds have been reviewed by The Guardian during the past year
http://tinyurl.com/qlcvb

CD reviews: our critics' verdicts
13.01.2006: Arctic Monkeys, Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
27.01.2006: Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan, Ballad of the Broken Seas
22.07.2005: Editors, The Back Room
07.07.2006: Guillemots, Through the Window Pane
02.09.2005: Richard Hawley, Coles Corner
19.05.2006: Hot Chip, The Warning
30.06.2006: Muse, Black Holes and Revelations
18.11.2005: Zoe Rahman, Melting Pot
18.11.2005: Lou Rhodes, Beloved One
02.06.2006: Scritti Politti, White Bread, Black Beer
03.02.2006: Sway, This Is My Demo
07.07.2006: Thom Yorke, The Eraser

On my blog, I made some Mercury predictions

12 Nominations [same as mentioned at top of this thread] + 12 outsiders [slighty readjusted due to the fact of discovering the long entrants list yesterday evening.]

Out of the 24 suggestions I selected, 9 were included in the 12 shortlist. 225 Albums were entered.

the 3 i didn't predict:

Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan - Ballad of the Broken Seas
[There were a few mentions for this on the interweb and this thread. But Lanegan is not British, so it should have been refused entry in the first place.]

Zoe Rahman - Melting Pot
[It's difficult to predict the specialist jazz nominations, but many jazz critics heavily praised, the Neil Cowley Trio. Zoe Rahman's album only got 3 stars from the Guardian's expert/ specialist jazz critic]

listen to Neil Cowley Trio on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/neilcowleytrio
an impressive modern jazz piano group, similar to Sweden's E.S.T

Lou Rhodes - Beloved One
[No one mentioned this album anywhere. It didn't have any media buzz when it came out. The only big surprise on the nominations list]

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think they should've put the new Gomez album on the list and play for laughs.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

SCRITTI POLITTI?

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

sorry it wasn't BSP?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wassthat, Canal? I was surprised there.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Lauren Laverne is one of the judges this year.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

i like lauren laverne. more than that frith guy.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone likes lauren laverne more than that frith guy. Except for Mrs Frith, maybe.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I always think of Mark Frith. Actually he'd probably be better (Heat covered pop and that).

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Fred Frith better still.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

i have before recounted an embarrassing occasion where i got them confused...

xpost

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/guides/456900/456975/html/nn1page1.stm

BBC has this abomination as a guide -

Winner: Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
Sounds like: Smart, angular rock with a bucketful of hooks
Key track: Michael - which kickstarted the trend for rock groups writing sexually ambiguous lyrics

i mean...words fail me.

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

this is where the license fee goes...

ILM = angry of tunbrige wells

some poor summer staffer wrote that, it's july, interns are kings in this heat!

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

i mean...words fail me.

right on! we all know it was really kickstarted by Rick Witter!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

er, guys, i wrote that :0(

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha NOT ONE of those guides is remotely acceptable!!!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Every winning album wasn't mainstream enough!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

side question: how does/can an artist 'lead' a shortlist?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah well, i'm getting paid and that's what counts.

xpost

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Danger Mouse is black, and he produced the whole Gorillaz album. Or is he not black enough for you? And what black British pop records would you suggest instead? I'm not sure whether this whole racistjustice thing is meant to be a running joke or if you actually mean it.

Alex MacPherson: nobody light skinned repping harder since Ice T.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

what is the point of the stupid graph type thing?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

bit of fun.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

BBC IS THE NEW PITCHFORK

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

why don't the BBC give bylines?
what's this sexually ambiguous lyrics trend all about?


Bowie to thread

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

"That whole trend of dating celebrities? I basically invented that"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody read the "Have Your Say" bit on the BBC website unless you enjoy veering wildly between helpless laughter and wrist-slicing depression.

― Annie Get Your Gin (noodle vague), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Stylus was the new Pitchfork, Dom.


You did steal that "Top 100 Videos of All-Time with Broken YouTube Links" wholesale from them, right?

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody read the "Have Your Say" bit on the BBC website unless you enjoy veering wildly between helpless laughter and wrist-slicing depression.

this is true at all times and on all subjects

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Lauren Laverne!

finally a reason to watch =)

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Was anyone expecting a lively and colourful list of nominees?
I hardly think so.
Arctic Monkeys - the token keep Joe Public interested entry.
Muse - the token "rock" entry.
Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - American citizen Lanegan gets in but Scott Walker doesn't.
Zoe Rahman - the token "jazz" entry.
Editors - the token "Britpop Mk II: still alive?" entry.
Lou Rhodes - the token "media insider with connections calls in favours" entry (Lily Allen will sweep the Brits).
Guillemots - the token "comedy act" entry.
Scritti - the token "Buggins' turn" entry (the album doesn't deserve to be nominated, let alone win).
Richard Hawley - the only record in this list which deserves to be there.
Sway - the token ethnic minority entry.
Hot Chip - the token "not as clever as they think" entry.
Thom Yorke - the token "Thom Yorke" entry.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

you could call any album ever "the token ______ entry", i would have thought.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

There are certain tokens which I think are unique to Mercury.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

Was that the token "renaissance blogger Marcello Carlin is above all music" post then?

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

Token minority entry or not, the Sway album deserves to be there.

― Annie Get Your Gin (noodle vague), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

The Sway album only has two good tracks on it. These are very good indeed, but the rest of the record, as with 98% of all contemporary albums, is rubbish.

I'm assuming that Burial didn't have the registration fee necessary to nominate his record.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Sway album >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plan B album

I really like the Sway record but it collapses somewhat folornly in the final third.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

(Wild stab in the dark Marcello but are your two tracks the opener and Pretty Ugly Husband?)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

I like the way the Sway album works as a whole. A couple of the tracks are "trackier", maybe, but there's at least 6 great tracks on there. I fear your relentless quest for perfection is doomed to disappointment.

xpost

Good Hip Hop albums have to trail off at the end, it's the law.

― Annie Get Your Gin (noodle vague), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

**Scritti - the token "Buggins' turn" entry (the album doesn't deserve to be nominated, let alone win).**

Still not feeling it, M? Fwiw, I think it's terrific.

I'm surprised you like the Hawley. I had a listen recently and was v.disappointed. Far, far too glossy to work for me.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

The only thing wrong with that Sway album is that Australian accent on "Sick World".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

And it should be the posse cut version of "Up Your Speed", not the original.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder what the wider public/media reaction to this list is compared with previous years. I don't think the average profile of this list of artists is as high as before. That is to say your average drivetime listener will be a lot more "Who?" than last year, what with R2 favourites like KT, Antony and Kaiser Chiefs, year before had Franz as runaway winners to draw in the Sky News type coverage and the year before had Coldplay and the Darkness. Not sure about this, it's not my area of interest really. It seems more Radio 6 than Radio 2 this year if I can put it that way

I thought the MMP was supposed to draw as much attention as possible with relatively big names on the marquee and award the most worthy album (as the judges saw it) with the attention it had previously failed to garner. Like how Coldplay/Darkness provided the honey trap for broad coverage and the award went to Dizzee. It is an industry prize when all is said and done, though it seems to style itself on the Booker prize.

xxx post to marcello, re: tokenism. What you call tokenism is merely covering the bases. If an album from say the trad/folk spectrum is nominated and people dismiss it as a token gesture does that not really say that the trad/folk end of the market has thrown anything worthy of great praise up? And if that's the criticism then people should say that, if they feel themselves qualified to. It's not the tokenism that bothers me, it's that people use that as a criticism for the inclusion of areas of music they aren't engaged with. With the Grammys the "token" albums have their own prizes. I don't particularly appreciate that because it ghettoizes music, doesn't seem healthy to me. It allows people to disregard music outside their own small world.

It occured to me that, rather than style itself on the Booker prize, maybe the Mercury music prize should be structured like the Whitbread Awards, which has 5 categories (Best novel, Best first novel, Children's, Poetry, Biography) from which an overall winner is produced. Maybe 4 or 5 broadly defined "Genre" awards with the 5 winners up against each other for a best over all album prize.

A thought, shoot it down how you please.

Right that was my tea break *toddles off*

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I fear your relentless quest for perfection is doomed to disappointment.

Are you saying that people should 'settle' for an album that is not wall-to-wall superb?

This is what's been wrong with the music industry starte by Nazi germany etc. for last 60 years and so on...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can almost envisage Hawley winning in this bold new Thom-enlightened era for British music.

(this is not really meant as a diss on Hawley who is clearly better than the Tooting Troubadouress)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hah, have we reached the point now where "Thom" automatically refers to Sandi and not Yorke?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

i had not reached that point, and was initially confused.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

dom are you sure your repping for the sway album isn't a carry-over from having repped for him (with ample ample justification - i'd done the same) for over a year before its release?

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

You think it's too corny Lex?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't heard it properly. i don't know what the lyrics are like, i assume great cos it's sway innit. i thought the production was a bit underwhelming though.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

i had not reached that point, and was initially confused.

LOL MORAN


I think there 4 or 5 good tracks on the Sway inc. 'Little Derek' and 'Loose Woose'.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Lex: I thought the production on the Sway album would appeal to you, it's kind of cutely dated, it reminds me of listening to Trevor Nelson on a Saturday afternoon back in 1998 or something, the songs that would be at the bottom end of his top 20.

Plus: "If a chick don't like me, she's racist". Lol-central.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

(Wild stab in the dark Marcello but are your two tracks the opener and Pretty Ugly Husband?)

Right about the second; the other one is "Little Derek."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

"If a chick don't like me, she's racist"

what if she is the same race?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Lex understands all the racial issues around here, don't ask me man.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

That is totally the best line on the album. The Australian accent is k-rub.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Is it worth a punt on Guillemots at 6/1?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Like we've said above, I think this year it comes down to Sway, Jilly Motts, and Dickie Hawley, so there are worse bets.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Torygraph music critic, Neil McCormick is a howling mad clueless muppet:

And the prize for wilful obscurity goes to . . . the Mercury judges
http://tinyurl.com/s9bxl

"Yet the list conspicuously ignores the musicians the country has actually been listening to. Sunny chanteuse Corrine Bailey Rae, urban poet The Streets, swaggering pop rock outfit the Feeling, and epic anthemicists Snow Patrol all made mainstream records with heart, soul, invention and credibility

CLUNK...a McCormick chosen Mercury list would be hideous !

More:

Do established artists no longer make work of any value, or has over-exposure rendered us deaf to their talent? What about veterans such as the Rolling Stones, David Gilmour, Paul McCartney, Scott Walker and Morrissey, or is the competition closed to anyone over 45?

Does he know Green of Scritti Politti is over 50 !

The only decent thing he has to say Kate Bush should have made the shortlist

Which might explain the criminal absence of Kate Bush, whose deliriously bonkers comeback is constructed on a scale of passion and imagination that makes most pop sound one dimensional in comparison.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

"No Lily Allen, No Credibility"


(POSSIBLE NEW ILM CATCHPHRASE?)

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ is a GE Money Genie (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah he seems to be assuming that the Mercury shortlist should just be a list of 'the musicians the country has actually been listening to', i.e. what is bland but gets big sales - don't we have the Brits for that?

― Nedpoleon (NedBeauman), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Neil McCormick is a howling mad clueless muppet

DJ MARTIAN OTM

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Dom: I reckon Sway hasn't got a chance in hell of winning... despite his token-friendly ethnic origin, album in no way lived up to hype, as argue thru upthread asides from a mere meagre handful of bonzer tunes twas a critical and commercial disappointment...

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

don't we have the Brits for that?

Also the charts.

Neil McCormick is a howling mad clueless muppet

and a plank.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 20 July 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Do Orson count as British? (I guess not)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Only in as much as Scissor Sisters do... (ie- can't get arrested in America, lets try the limeys out for size success story)

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

So, let's see...Vashti comes back after 35 years, and Louise Rhodes the ex-music press photographer and failed trip-hop warbler gets the token "folk" nomination.

While I silently count to ten, I reflect that it's probably best simply to regard the Mercury as the promotional exercise to reactivate underperforming recent back catalogue that it actually is.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh i really hate the vashti bunyan album. so smug and twee. i hate her other album as well, the old one, it's like joni mitchell filtered through some sort of sandi thom filter.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

ohhhh boy.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dizzee, Franz, Hegarty and other winners didn't really have back catalogues to reactivate tho...

then again maybe this year the winner will be an old hand ala PJ Harvey, if the 'rotation system' idea is to be believed.

which would be v good news for Gartside i guess - i don't suppose Hawley counts as an 'old hand'?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Thom Yorke does though; I can see him winning it in the same way Paul Newman won the Oscar for Color Of Money.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

(Marcello, is yr BS Johnson piece missing it's initial paragraph, or does it start like that--in the thick of it?)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 21 July 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

well, BSJ was always in the thick of it...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

(oh! what BS johnson piece is this? i would like to read it.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

(On Marcello's blog. Didn't know you were a BS Johnson fan Grimly. Not that there's any reason you wouldn't be.

http://cookham.blogspot.com/ )

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

nice one; thanks for the link. yes, i'm fascinated by him; have been ever since a tutor at university mentioned, in passing, "this bloody book in a box" and i thought, fuck me, i have to check this out. been faintly obsessive ever since. and i remember now that i need to get my copy of "... fiery elephant" back from the friend who's had it for the past 18 months.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 22 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

ooh. harsh, marcello. harsh. but fair ;)

very interesting point about lanark.

will stop derailing the thread now and go for a shower instead.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 22 July 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

Is there some sort of contest currently going on to see who can out-retard "People I don't know are deservedly trying to kill me"?. Rachel Cooke, The Observer:

The Mercury Prize, the short list for which was announced last week, gets weirder and weirder - or, at any rate, more and more obscure. In the year of Zoe Rahman, Lou Rhodes and Guillemots - love the name - it is hard to believe that once, long ago, it involved big names as well as small (in 1994, Take That were nominated, which seems incredible now). Oh, well. Who wants to be on the list anyway? Like Hello!, it sometimes feels as if the prize comes with its very own curse. I own a few Mercury Prize-winning albums, including Different Class by Pulp (1996), New Forms by Roni Size/Reprazent (1997) and Bring It On by Gomez (1998). None of these records is bad, exactly. But you do find yourself wondering: where are they now?

I can spot 467 things wrong with that paragraph. Any advances? I dunno if claiming underground obscurity for Gillian Motts (you know, who charted at #23 last week), or alternating a "How dare they nominate pop acts like Take That" with a "What's the point of giving the prize to Gomez if they're not going to have a #1 album" attitude is worse. But, yeah, nobody heard anything from Pulp after 1996. Nobody could argue with that.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh i really hate the vashti bunyan album. so smug and twee. i hate her other album as well, the old one, it's like joni mitchell filtered through some sort of sandi thom filter.

-- The Lex (alex.macpherso...), July 21st, 2006.

???

I like the cut of your jib Alex, it's just so mind boggling wrong. I don't find it smug or twee. There's nothing affected about it and Vashti is one of the least smug people you could meet! As for the Sandi Thom thing wtf?!

Yeah, what is it with these middlebrow newspaper columnists complaining about the supposedly obscure nature of the Mercury prize? And you know that should Lour Rhodes, say, win they'll be like, "OMG it's so great Lou Rhodes won. I mean, I was so happy to see such a beautiful album nominated. Well done the Mercury Prize judges etc etc can I get on the guestlist next year please?"

― Stew (stew s), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Gomez new album 'surprisingly' ignored by critics. 'I'm sure it's shit' says one blogger. 'Agreed' pipes another.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 23 July 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I read that Observer piece today, that's precisely the mainstream media reaction I've been expecting for this selection.

Money being the final arbiter of all things:

I wonder how much money will be bet on this MMP compared with previous years? A fair bit less I'd imagine.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
announced today then, folks.

three-horse race, sez i, between Hot Chip, The Guillemots and a late surge for Richard Hawley.

thoughts?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

I stand by my Spunk Monkeys prediction.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

get me a critic
get me a critic
who will vote for me tonight

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe its time for the token mainstream band award instead of "its this genre of musics year for the award"

As long as it continues to operate in that style then The Mercurys are a farce.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

I would like it to be Hawley but suspect that it won't; you don't normally get two sensitive solo acts winning in two consecutive years.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

My informed guess is the Guillemots (3/1) but there's big value in betting on Muse (14/1) and Sway (25/1).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

actually, the more i think about it, i wouldn't actually rule muse out if the judges are feeling especially unimaginative.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

God, Guillemots TM - this year's Gomez.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

You get the feeling the judges might have a sense that Muse are "due".

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

i was happy last year when bl0c p4rty din't win :)

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

We completely failed to organise the Lex 20p Indie Prize this year :(

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hot Chip, hopefully.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

That'll split the "this year's Gomez" vote.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

i must hear the scritti politti album!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Guillemots are too happy clappy, they remind of that 90s band Baby Bird

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would like Scritti Politti to win it, but that is absolutely unbelievable. So my money goes to the fucking Guillemots.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

i don't actually like "The Warning" that much (not in the same league as "coming On Strong") but i think they are a great band.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's no Paris, Lex.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

The new Scritti Politti isn't Lexpop, I'm afraid.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

The year's most overrated album, methinks.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Scritti Politti won't win because there isn't any justice in the world (besides, The Guillemots' album is just as good as WBBB).

They'll probably award it to Mr. Cheerful himself, La Yorke, because No Radiohead = No Credibility.

Surely they wouldn't dare award it to Muse...

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Why you break hearts Marcello?

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, there's been more overrated albums than the new Scritti cutting.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

f course i don't think scritti politti will in any way match up to paris. but i think i might like it, judging from the songs i liked off the sp album i got out of the library at the weekend.

haha i think the only album i've actually properly heard on the shortlist is lanegan/campbell! which is...nice. pretty. ok.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Mark Lanegan and Isobel Campbell win it just because ITS MARK LANEGAN!
And the he's not british controversy 2nd year row would be funny.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

My wit is wasted on the plebs here, y'know.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Someone should explain me what's good in The Guillemots.
I hope Marcello thinks "The Warning" as the most overrated album of the year.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not too late Matt, surely? I have e-mailed Tom about it.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

The Warning is quite good in places - "Over And Over" is a pretty ace single when you think about it.

I think we should clear the sentimental clouds from our collective eyes about how good it is to have Green back and realise that the Scritti album is literally a half-baked record of unfinished demos.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why can I not find out who's on the panel of judges?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Because it is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

HOT CHIP? if it's them, i'm leaving the country.

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

arctic monkeys are runaway favourites accoring to ladbrokes.

and to the mercury turns into a one-stop nme awards, "honouring" the biggest-selling breakthrough band rather than, er, something else. as muse rightly said, the award should rightly go to the band that needs the money most, ie, um, i'm not sure actually...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

HOT CHIP? if it's them, i'm leaving the country

woah, be careful there. Konal Doddz said that w.r.t. Antony + Johnsons last year and has been in exile ever since!

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

in order i want to win:

scritti politti
sway
hot chip
zoe rahman
campbell/lanegan

all others completely unacceptable to even LIVE

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

lex, your scritti love is incongruous and bewildering.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Why can I not find out who's on the panel of judges?

I always try to find this out and never can, except for whichever one gets to write a broadsheet article about how hard it is to listen to a bunch of CDs to decide what's best. Really you should be able to find out for each year on their shitty flash website, but oh no...

Lauren Laverne's on it this year I think.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

can i post?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

oh!

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

And you an old Muse fan too, Lex!

I hope Muse win, not because I think BHAR is a fantastic album (it's not their best, probably not even their 2nd best, though it contains some cracking singles), but just to irritate people :)

Guillemots, Scritti or Campbell/Lanegan good too, just as long as it isn't Hot fucking Chip.

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Last year's panel

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1769616,00.html

Simon Frith, author, academic and music critic
Alexia Loundras, The Independent
Lauren Laverne, musician and broadcaster
Dean Jackson, radio presenter
John Lewis, Time Out
Margherita Taylor, broadcaster
Colin Irwin, author, music journalist and broadcaster
John Williamson, journalist and record store owner
Mark Findlay, head of music, GCap radio network
Adrian Thrills, Daily Mail
Ian Parkinson, head of live music at Radio1and head of 1Xtra

― Matt Slack ((1903-70)), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

pretty bloody motley crew innit?

this year:

Simon Cowell
Russell Brand
Chantelle
Phill Jupitus
Caroline Monk
Alexis Petridis

etc

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Warning is quite good in places - "Over And Over" is a pretty ace single when you think about it.

I think we should clear the sentimental clouds from our collective eyes about how good it is to have Green back and realise that the Scritti album is literally a half-baked record of unfinished demos.

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), September 5th, 2006.

'Over and Over' is a good single indeed, but except that the album is quite boring.

As for Scritti, I've never been the greatest Scritti-fan until WBBB: I think this is the best thing Green's ever did. Just pure songs, nothing else. 'Cupid & Psyche' is nice too, but sounds like Level 42 to me, unfortunately that is the perfect example of the 'dated' production.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Go and wash your mouth out now. With bleach.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

no Lauren Laverne this year? :(((

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

...and lauren laverne. sorry!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know why I'm so enthusiastic, I've caught all of 5 minutes of her new music show on c4 so far... Primal Scream were on it, sweating like [insert joke] and the whole thing looked typically dire in a White Room-esque britrock fashion.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but the white room was brilliant! oh, the bald simplicity of it all. let's talk about naked city...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Go and wash your mouth out now. With bleach.

-- I Supersize Disaster (noodle_vagu...), September 5th, 2006.

Who? Why?

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you liked Hawley, Lex. You gave him an 8 and everything.

I never heard "People I Don't Know Are Trying to Kill Me (Because I Am a Fucking Cunt)". If anybody would like to Gmail it to me that would be lovely, but I suppose it's not that likely any of the seven people that bought it got round to ripping it.

― Fraggle O Rly (Ferg), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

BECAUSE EVERY NOTE GREEN GARTSIDE HAS EVER RECORDED IS PERFECT. YOU HEAR ME? PERFECT. EVERY. NOTE.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

The tunes - yes
The sound - not always

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I might just be some guy, but I'd prefer Green's half-arsed demos than half of that shortlist.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

half of that shortlist.

Just the half?

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

No Lauren Laverne- thank God. But the chance of avoiding her, that ridiculously bearded middlebrow fuck Jupitus, the stunted sleaze penguin-oid "Jools" (*SHUDDERS*) or an identikit C4 yoof wanker... next to zero... bastards.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

And ladies and gentleman..

It's ON

Editors playing. Sounding alright but these guitar lines are going nowhere. In fact: Boring. I'm looking forward to seeing Lou Rhodes because.. well, I'm ignorant of her (I know Lamb yes, but not her)
BBC4 say it's a "rare TV outing from Thom Yorke" as if he's being let out of a home. Is he?

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jools is there. Jo Whiley's doing the voice-over, talking nonsensical journo-pish that says nothing.

(this is on BBC4, btw)

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Noes. Hot Chip are playing their best song and they're making it boring... This completely tallies with my live experience.

Dismissed.

Next!

I suppose it is an award for albums

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Strange Lou Rhodes fact - a certain much-loved by ILM ex-popstar's son is her tour manager.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

is the spelling bit in 'over and over' supposed to sound like 'money' by pink floyd?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm finding Isobel and Mark totally cute.

Is that wrong?

Awww, bless 'em.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

fuck this shit. i'm listening to 'tical'.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Note to people on Sinister: Isobel's arse is still massive.

(I *love* the album though)

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - What's so bad about Lauruen Laverne gekoppel? Who would you prefer? Mariella Frostrup? Paul bloody Morley?

She's more Popworld than TOTP unlike the vast majority of her peers.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

x-post.

No wonder she feels like this - http://living.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=940&id=1177592006

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, it's just a Sinister meme. Far worse things have been said about her on there :-)

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, what does it matter? Ballad of the Broken Seas is one of my favourite albums of the last year. For the record, Mark Lanegan's an ugly bastard too. Does that help?

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

why ms rahman, what big gums you have

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

bums and gums. It's about the music (industry) people!

Hawley was pretty slick and I don't just mean his hair.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Now Lamacq wanks over teh Arctic Monkeys (not literally, but not far off). They're speaking to their fans in the street.

fan #1: They just tell it..
fan #2: ...like it is

Good for them.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

i'm 25. is this why i don't 'get' the arctic monkeys? has my membership of The Kids expired?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

the inarcticulate monkeys have more hair and less acne i see.

Booo to Jools, no charm.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I've come round on the Monkeys. I like the way they sound, as long as I don't have to think about them.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Zoe Rahman choon, I might listen to her album.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Habby purfday Sway, I quite liked that, might listen to the album. Good driving music mayhaps.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit thom yorke really looks like my dad

and my dad likes radiohead...i think we should be told

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think he's driving up the orders for whiskys from the bar. The solo piano-ness of it all..

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have no problem at all with the Arctic Monkeys except for the way that they are treated like some sort of musical revolutionaries by people old enough to know better.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am overruled for the telly at the moment, but I was really impressed by ver Monkeys watching the Reading/Leeds festival footage, very professional... not as impressive as Slayer mind you.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, that is their biggest prob.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

nice to be professional. exciting.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

What I mean is that they had the audience in the palm of their hand and actually didn't sound like utterly flailing scattershot shite. Tight, basically.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

wot is this scritti politti shite? i thought they were supposed to be the best band ever

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Scritti Politti sounded so light.. too light. Bleugh.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I feel old. Green Gartside looks like this, not like that Paul-Heaton-alike on my telly :-(

http://www.aggressiveart.org/sp_uk/history/p_green77.jpg

Actually, that's David Tennant, innit?

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Keh. Curiosity sated. Pigeon hole filled.

Do not let me hear that album or I'll want to fry a whole cow in KISS brand engine oil.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

will they ask TV's Marcus Brigstocke about the thing he does on CBBC?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

*cringe* at Marcus Brigstocke being odd and Jo Wiley trying to banter amusingly with him

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

ROCK AUTHORITY marcus brigstocke.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

one of the judges appears to be the newsreading eagle from the muppet show

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well, I guess they could do with the publicity.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

The winner: Arctic Monkeys

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE BEING RIGHT

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

christ they're ugly

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, "someone call 999, Richard Hawley's just been robbed"/

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Winner of the most Generic Student Guitar Album of the Year

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

You could see from the bone-on that that cunt Sinclair was carrying for them why they'd win.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Bands that everybody loved, at their apex, and now nobody does (or seems to)

A waste

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Normally Simon Frith announces the winner, why the switch to Jools this year?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

God damn it.

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda like Green's beard btw. Heaton wishes he looked like that.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Bring on teh Laverne to toe the party line. Boo :-(

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Did Jools get his contract renegotiated? BBC cost cutting or somewhat.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

The most anti-climax winner ever, more so than the year Franz Ferdinand won it

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

however having had a rotten time in leeds recently it amuses be greatly to think of all the leeds scenesters in a strop cos sheffield have stolen the thunder

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

god look at the drummer. LOOK AT HIS FUCKING UGLY FUCKING FACE

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

It was grebt when Franz won it.

Which one of the Spunky Monkeys is Richard Hawley's kid then?

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

What percent of first year Brit students going to uni this month will have the Arctic Monkeys album?

is there an Anti Arctic Monkeys faction of 18 year olds?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Does that have fuck all to do with fuck all?

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

So The Kaiser Chiefs guy got it right and probably for the right reasons too. Their bitterness might be just an ounce more tonight.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

DJ Martian should be rejoicing, we will never hear of them again now!

(curse only partially worked for Suede tho')

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Did anybody else piss themselves when they had that vid of Brett Anderson playing his guitar? I was waiting for "Lick My Love-Pump", I swear.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Best winner of the Nationwide Barclays TSB Lloyds Award since M People.

― DavidM* (unreal), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Alfonso, what did Kaiser Chiefs dude say?!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

at least the arctic monkeys drummer can actually keep time unlike the kaiser muppet...although...

god look at the drummer. LOOK AT HIS FUCKING UGLY FUCKING FACE

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

What percent of first year Brit students going to uni this month will have the Arctic Monkeys album?

65% (YouGov)

is there an Anti Arctic Monkeys faction of 18 year olds?

no. young people are your enemy.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

He said it went Popular, not very popular, Popular, not very popular, year by year. He said that slightly bitterly and referred to Franz winning before them. Then he said that he supposed it would be the Arctic Monkeys this year then.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I feel sick.

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Did he not mention how his record is almost utterly odious and despicable, and how he's a nasty cunt?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Go to the Nurse's office Louis, here's a note. If she says it's serious you can go home for the day.

Xpost


and funnily he didn't mention that. It wasn't lead singer bloke it was spinal tap stupid looking gawky bloke.

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Muse, Yorke, the Guillemots and the token jazz-folk-urban albums would have been worse choices.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

why is the kaiser non-drummer a nasty cunt? did he sit in front of you at the cinema with a really big hat on and refuse to take it off or something?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

After watching the intros I would have been happy for anybody but that fucking hippy out of Lamb to win.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Guillemots were just awful from here.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

"This is me picking courgettes oh wow I'm like, so spiritual."

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

there was a hilarious shot on the telly as the arctic fellas trooped up to collect their payola of the guy from hot chip in his ill judged green glasses. looked as glum as fuck, and it seemed to me he had been feeling like a total coolguy the whole night until that exact moment when the reality of how ridiculous he looked suddenly hit home.

it's my favourite bit every year. i only tune in to see the utter desolation etched on the faces of careerist arseholes who would kill their mothers before admitting they even cared. and however hard they try, they just can't keep the searing disappointment from seeping like neon paint from every available pore. BRILLIANT.

― edger stewert (edger), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I just stroke bunnies when I want to feel good.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Winner of the most Generic Student Guitar Album of the Year
-- DJ Martian (altmartinu...), September 5th, 2006. (djmartian) (later)

keep telling yourself that.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

in green glasses?

― edger stewert (edger), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

the MOST? weren't The Editors in the same competition??

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but the Editors won Most Generic Student Guitar Album 1981.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

what kinda glasses do you wear, edgar?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

I hate most mooozik teevee presenters, they are usually duff as fuck. No not Morely (he's thick) or Frostrup (what the fuck does she know). Get fucking Frith to present it, he's done a lot of interviews in the meeja this time around hasn't he, why not go the whole hog...?

Arctic Sodding Monkeys... eugh. Nothing more to be said except the usual (they sound like every school band ever-made good, utterly and completely dull, ordinary, grindingly conventional... blah blah, I'm boring myself now...)

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

what kinda glasses do you wear, edgar?

well judged ones for sure.

― lexurian (lexurian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

rose tinted spectacles mostly.

― edger stewert (edger), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

gekoppel cheer up, stelfox reviewed the new Burial album in Uncut this month with a 4 stars review

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'll certainly be consoling myself with that fact in the long cold months ahead.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Zing. I did not know that Martian, I rarely read Uncut (Country-obsessed bastards) although it does at least have reasonable word counts for its reviews (unlike comics like the NME). Stelfox is getting about a bit at the moment isn't he?

To be honest music tv presenters piss me off more than most non-political things, more than the entire career of the Arctic Monkeys (so far).

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

THEY COULD NOT HAVE WON IT WITHOUT MYSPACE!!

Seriously folks, we can forgive M People now.

― Domenico Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

I quite enjoyed Lou Rhodes. I want to live where she lives.

I missed Isobel Campbell :-(

Have the Arctic Monkeys really sold a lot of records? I must have missed that.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

There is an Elephant in the room! And nobody can see it!

-- Mark Grout (mark.grou...) (webmail), Yesterday 3:55 PM. (later) (link)


Well, that was what I was trying to say yesterday at the time indicated. Meaning: The Arctics were so going to win it, and everyone was seriously debating who they thought was going to without mentioning a certain band from Sheffield.

They are notoriously bad at speechmaking, but I thought their "Call 999, Richard Hawley's been robbed!" was quite charming in its way.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it was charming.

I did not think their massive sales had been sustained after the initial rush. Well, I hadn't really thought about it at all.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

the only band on the list to have had a #1 single already

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Arctics were so going to win it, and everyone was seriously debating who they thought was going to without mentioning a certain band from Sheffield.

ahem

Arctic Monkeys at a canter, put your shirt on 'em.

-- More Tongue Feldman (noodle_vagu...), July 17th, 2006

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't heard a note of any arctic monkeys song :D

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

"he's a specialist music writer" (C) marcello carlin 2006

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:06 (nineteen years ago)

ironically i think i'm most suited to be a generalist writer! i am pretty open to every genre except guitar indie crap and quite the dilettante in my actual listening habits.

i am aiming to never ever hear the arctic monkeys - i do not wish to sully my ears with the worst band ever to exist ever.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chriskaplonski.com/images/repress/106_0678.jpg

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

ahem

I did see you say that, but I was meaning the debate that was running at the time.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I'm just wallowing in self-satisfaction.

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:36 (nineteen years ago)

Richard Hawley is teh REAL winner:
http://www.nme.com/news/richard-hawley/24223

Also Scritti Politti #42 at Amazon's, hurrah.

― zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

i am aiming to never ever hear the arctic monkeys - i do not wish to sully my ears with the worst band ever to exist ever.

ok but it's gettin' old now srsly

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

Guys guys guys, the Arctic Monkeys is so January 2006. Get with the times.

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

*yawn*

*stretch*

*shrug*

NEXT!

long blondes for 2007 then?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

back to urban next year

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

Derek B to win at a canter.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Long Blondes for 2007 then?

It can't be another Sheffield gtr band can it. Pity.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

long blondes are fucking dreadful! (and i HAVE, unfortunately, heard their music. like a female franz ferdinand. YUCK.)

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

They sound fuck all like Franz Ferdinand. They sound like The Kills with actual tunes.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

a more boring Kills then

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Good lead singer, shame about the Camden Underworld circa 1991 backing band. They'll probably win, from what I've heard of the album.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

the kills are GREAT.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Kills have a name that's too much like the Killers. Ergo, no win.

Next year, a girl jazz singer. She's called Francine Ferdinando.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

the kills are GREAT.

*roll eyes smiley*

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Kills have a name that's too much like the Killers.

I hear "Ride On Time" was what stopped Black Box Recorder winning the Mercury in 2000.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

amn, hadn't thought about the sheffield connection. you're right, they're buggered, even if it actually is the album of the year...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

They sound fuck all like Franz or The Kills.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://209.85.12.234/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif

Like this?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

That's more "retarded" than "roll eyes", although it's suitable for this thread.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

2007 winners = The Electric Soft Parade, and I told you so.

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

man the live award shows always bring out the funniest moments on ILM. it's like the 'who's line is it anyway' improv players n shit.

i hope ppl don't say that the 'mercury curse' did for the arctic monkeys, as SUEDE-style the rot has/had already set in (cf. the bass man leaves, and the non-hit last single).

― pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Since when was getting to number four a non-hit?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Since March 2006.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's all DLT's fault.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think the Septic Monkeys will enjoy a drawn out Suede-esque fall from grace. For a start, Suede wasn't actually too bad...

No, I think ver kids will latch onto something totally new and they'll be forgotten. Then they'll release a second album which nobody will care about except for a Passantino music-review-that-doesn't-mention-music (TM) on Stylus (if that's still around).

If you want a band that's going to define this generation, look at My Chemical Rom--

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

My Chemical Romeo

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

My Chemical Romance covering Dire Straits' Romeo & Juliet = MONEY

― Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

ILM likes the long blondes! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

ILM likes the long blondes! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

sorry but after you've been praised as the best new guitar band since oasis etc then getting to number 4 is a non hit, straight after two number ones. *especially* when it's not even on the album.

― pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder with hits now -- when people buy 'hips don't lie' on itunes BUT OFF THE LP, NOT THE 45 -- does that count as a 'single'?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

you would hope so wouldn't you.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

VOTE RESULTS
Are the Arctic Monkeys worthy Mercury Music Prize winners?
Yes
50.57%
No
49.43%


from BBC News

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Had the Guillemots won that survey would've read:

Yes
10.23%
No
16.27%
WHO?
73.50%

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Current chart positions on Amazon:

8 Arctic Monkeys
9 Richard Hawley
16 Guillemots
19 Hot Chip
20 Thom Yorke
25 Muse
27 Zoe Rahman
29 Campbell/Lanegan
36 Lou Rhodes
45 Scritti Politti
62 Editors
731 Sway

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

nb: the Sway position is not a typo.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

UK Hip Hop popular as ever, innit?

― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)


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