music for assholes

re-read original post. Shostakovich did write music for an asshole (Stalin) but: "this music was made by and/or appeals most strongly to assholes"? Won't fit.

Playlist:

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Hail to the Thief

I think this is a great question although I'm having trouble answering, myself

-- Ally (mlescau...), November 22nd, 2002. (mlescaut)

What music makes you think, "this music was made by and/or appeals strongly to assholes"?

-- Tad (llamasfu...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:09 AM. (llamasfur) (1 trackback) (link)

Answers

Nearly everything on commercial rock radio.

-- Nick Mirov (nic...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:14 AM. (nick) (link)

nearly everything nick mirov likes

-- s trife (i$oiv@if5ws)) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:21 AM. (simon_tr) (link)

Michael Bolton.

-- stevo (stefanroo...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:48 AM. (stevo) (link)

At The Drive In.

-- edward o (edward...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 7:34 AM. (edwardo) (link)

Insane Clown Posse.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:06 AM. (vassifer) (link)

Avril Lavinge.

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:08 AM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

Any band that The Face like.

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:08 AM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

DJ Shadow

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:09 AM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

The Doors

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:09 AM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

God yes @ The Doors.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:11 AM. (Ronan) (link)

(scans his collection...) too obvious to say Limp Bizkit...how about gangsta rap? all gangstas are assholes after all

-- stevem (bluesk...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:18 AM. (blueski) (link)

so otm with the doors nominations.

-- angelo (discusdude7...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:36 AM. (angelo) (link)

The Hooters (anyone remember them?)

-- Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (christineindig...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 9:24 AM. (cindigo) (link)

Sting.

-- James Ball (james.bal...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 9:59 AM. (James Ball) (link)

Jimmy Buffett.

-- mike a (mik...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:18 AM. (mike a) (link)

Arab on Radar

-- Jonathan Williams (x...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:23 AM. (ex machina) (link)

Beatles,Beach Boys,Hollies,Paul Simon,Genesis,Yes,
Pink Floyd,10cc,Queen,ELO,Marillion,Split Enz,Madness,
XTC,Squeeze,Aztec Camera,Prefab Sprout,Scritti Politti,
Gangway,Depeche Mode,Human League,OMD,Yazoo,Erasure,
Cure,Pet Shop Boys,Lightning Seeds,Crowded House,Dodgy,
Blur,Oasis,Radiohead,Kula Shaker,Supernaturals,Orbital

-- man (ma...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:29 AM. (link)

What's wrong with Madness?

-- James Ball (james.bal...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:36 AM. (James Ball) (link)

The Fucking Champs. Phish.

-- charlie va (charliewilmot...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:37 AM. (charlie va) (link)

(man is a very bad man)

-- Dan Perry (djperr...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:42 AM. (Dan Perry) (link)

Anyone who does NOT love The Human League is the asshole, surely!

-- edward o (edward...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:47 AM. (edwardo) (link)

Disturbed...definitely music for assholes
Bob Seeger...music for old tired assholes
Metallica...music made by assholes for assholes
Denis Leary's "Asshole"... :D

-- nickalicious (nza2342...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:53 AM. (link)

The Butthole Surfers,Anal Cunt,Dame Clara Butt,Everything Butt the Girl,Front Line ASSembly,DJ ASSault,the Ass Ponys,American ANALog Set

-- Aaron W (aaro...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:54 AM. (link)

XTC ?!?!?!?!?!

Man is the real asshole!

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:57 AM. (vassifer) (link)

Artimus Piles, Millencolon, "Brown-Eye Girl", R Plant's "Big Log", Coil, Turd Eye Blind, "The Rectum the Edmund Fitzgerald"

-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:01 AM. (link)

Being young and liking Elvis = sick sick sick

-- Graham (dtc...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:12 AM. (graham) (link)

What about being 34 and liking Elvis? Is that alright?

-- James Ball (james.bal...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:15 AM. (James Ball) (link)

wither! a pox on this most pointless of threads

-- stevem (bluesk...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:47 AM. (blueski) (link)

nearly everything on those football compilations.

-- dyson (dyspleasur...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 12:41 PM. (dyson) (link)

alt-fucking-country

-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 12:42 PM. (M Matos) (link)

hiphop

-- ( @ .com) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 2:13 PM. (link)

Shellac, David Gray, Fugazi

-- Clarke B. (clarkeb...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 3:48 PM. (link)

(It is my new mission to own something by every act mentioned on this thread.)

-- Dan Perry (djperr...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 3:53 PM. (Dan Perry) (link)

Sublime, NOFX, Phish, The Dave Matthews Band.

-- Ian Johnson (orio...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 3:59 PM. (orion) (link)

(Can I renege on my self-proclaimed mission?)

-- Dan Perry (djperr...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:16 PM. (Dan Perry) (link)

If someone were to own something by Fugazi and David Gray, though, then they'd be great. Or an English teacher who still thinks he's in touch with the kids.

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 4:49 PM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

Steve Kilbey solo, Don Henley, _Tubular Bells_, _The Big Chill_

-- Clarke B. (clarkeb...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 5:23 PM. (link)

Whoever said DJ Shadow, I agree... with a vengence!

-- Alan N (ala...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 5:30 PM. (Alan N) (link)

Trance. Oi. Nu-metal/rap rock/whatever.
All specifically designed and built for assholes.
Oh, and The Prodigy. Completely custom constructed big beats for total fucking assholes. The Grateful Dead. Created by God to appease millions of assholes.

Interesting how this thread is actually more about who we identify as assholes and not so much about music.

-- Tom Millar (tmilla...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 5:46 PM. (Millar) (link)

Minor Threat. Anyone who can identify with the song "Guilty of Being White" can go eat an ass hoagie.

-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:00 PM. (Nate Patrin) (link)

i don't know if dead and phish fans are really assholes. they're just anoying and kinda slow. n have awful taste.

-- dyson (dyspleasur...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:03 PM. (dyson) (link)

emo

-- electric sound of jim (electricsoun...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:04 PM. (electricsound) (link)

Title of this thread => Great John Cage pieces that never were

-- o. nate (syne_wav...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:10 PM. (onate) (link)

Strangely enough the Dead fans I've met have been all flaming lie-to-your-face pricks of the most superbly vain, hypocritical variety. But Phish fans, who in my experience are mostly just jazz performance majors from the boonies, are nice enough.

Another one: Crass. Formed in order to make it easier to identify assholes, and highly effective.

-- Tom Millar (tmilla...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:15 PM. (Millar) (link)

MXPX, Creed

-- Dave Beckhouse (Rotgut...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:50 PM. (Dave Beckhouse) (link)

Musicians who try their best to sound like assholes don't make music for assholes- discuss.

-- Daniel_Rf (danie...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 6:55 PM. (Daniel_Rf) (link)

Bob Dylan, Rush, Bright Eyes, Atmosphere; I can't believe it looks like no one has said Big Black yet, although i suppose Shellac covers it. Ani DeFranco (did i spell that right? For girl "assholes", multiplied by infinity if a guy pretends to like that shit), and while I'm in this vein Dan Bern too. Hesher music. Hair metal, for the people with severely under-developed senses of irony that try to think that way anyway. Most Jazz. Other Muso music (Fusion! AIEEE!). Eminem (ha). Godspeed you black emperor (sp? again). & etc.

-- Dan I. (w1nt3rmut...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 7:09 PM. (link)

I've been told that I'm an asshole no less than 21 times on this thread already. Not that I disagree or anything, but still...

-- Daniel_Rf (danie...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 7:31 PM. (Daniel_Rf) (link)

got any dave matthews band in your collection? how about live? take a glance through and if you see these, or sum 41, or matchbox 20, or extreme, (pause for a moment to second Creed), there is a strong possibility that you may be an asshole.

-- webcrack (signon2...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:11 PM. (music=crack) (link)

20, including the majority of Dan I's list, I think.

-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:13 PM. (sundar) (link)

Sum 41 fans are nice people. It seems we've confused "assholes" with "the entire record buying public". Creed seem like assholes, yeah. A lot of assholes I know listen to Creed, yeah. But a LOT of people listen to Creed. I appreciate that this thread is based on generalizations, I really do. I love that. But pop dissing on this particular thread seems especially misguided.

-- Adam A. (newaddres...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:23 PM. (Keiko) (link)

Earth Crisis, Strife, Hatebreed et al.

Also: Anal Cunt--but I bet they're funny assholes.

-- Ian Johnson (orio...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:29 PM. (orion) (link)

meatmen. those family fun hits like 'crippled children suck' and 'tooling for anus'

actually maybe more like music for people with a sick sense of humor, i'm chuckling right now in fact

-- ron (ohronn...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 8:49 PM. (ron) (link)

RATM fans = assholes assholes assholes!!!

-- Curtis Stephens (sevenxvii...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 9:34 PM. (link)

Blink 182, stupid frat-boy rock with idiotic poop jokes, they're definite assholes. Their fans are just 12 year old girls though.

-- David Allen (Hippiedestroye...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 9:38 PM. (link)

"Minor Threat. Anyone who can identify with the song "Guilty of Being White" can go eat an ass hoagie."

Fuck you!

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:17 PM. (vassifer) (link)

Sorry, Alex. I! JUST! HATE! MYSELF! What the fuck have I done?!?!!?!

-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:38 PM. (Nate Patrin) (link)

Helltime to thread!

-- Tom Millar (tmilla...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:41 PM. (Millar) (link)

Toploader!

-- Charlie (charlie_iven...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:46 PM. (Charlie) (link)

Probably the Manics.

-- Ally (mlescau...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 10:56 PM. (mlescaut) (link)

this is the story of a girl, who cried a river and drowned the whole world. And though she looks so sad in photographs, I absolutely love her...when she smiles!!!!

I don't know if the rest of 9 Days reaches this level of hell, but only an asshole could love this ode to perk.

-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:05 PM. (Anthony Miccio) (link)

Guns N roses

-- The Hegemon (thehegemo...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:23 PM. (link)

Henry Rollins, by his own account, is a total jerk.

-- Ian Johnson (orio...) (webmail), November 18th, 2002 11:24 PM. (orion) (link)

the and/or thing is what throws foax I think.

nobody has mentioned u2 yet = ILX has Jumped the Shark!

-- Sterling Clover (s_clove...) (webmail), November 19th, 2002 2:30 AM. (s_clover) (link)

guns n roses fans just have a tragic sense of humor, that's all.

-- dyson (dyspleasur...) (webmail), November 19th, 2002 2:35 AM. (dyson) (link)

nobody has mentioned u2 yet = ILX has Jumped the Shark!

surely this means that u2 have Jumped the Shark!!!

My vote = Stereophonics.

-- alext (alex...) (webmail), November 19th, 2002 6:15 AM. (alext) (link)

Jackyl!!!

-- rat (mra...) (webmail), November 19th, 2002 8:13 PM. (link)

As a Dead fan does that mean I'm definitely an asshole?

Hopefully I'm not a vain, hypocritical prick as well.

-- James Ball (james.bal...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 7:20 AM. (James Ball) (link)

Has someone dropped the Dead? Fuck, I'm an asshole too. As for the kiddy who dropped Dylan, he might as well go burn any books he doesn't have.

-- Roger Fascist (RogerFascis...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 7:34 AM. (Roger Fascist) (link)

how do you do that roger?

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 8:05 AM. (jdesouza) (link)

Oasis. Apotheosis of the genre. Music by assholes for assholes.

-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 8:09 AM. (alex63) (link)

oi you!

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 8:10 AM. (jdesouza) (link)

Well Jules, you would begin by purchasing a large plot of land, say, just outside Aberdeen, about the size of Gloucester, constructing upon your new purchase an enormous ant farm and laboratory complex, kited out with the latest genetic technology. For here you will breed a new kind of ant, by fusing the genetic strain of the ant with that of the rhino; your new breed will be call the rant. After years of painstaking research and mistakes, terrible abortions and ruined organisms, one evening, as the lightening plays above your laboratory, you will scream "Eureka" to your hunchbacked assistant and pull down hard on the lever that will shortly channel raw electricity into the chimera that lies on the slab before you. "Arise my Queen Rant" you will burble before cackling insanely and rubbing your hands together, smearing the blood from your white overalls. The next step in your cunning plan would surely be to provide your Queen, who has by now ripped apart several of your minions as they cattle-prod her into a reinforced Titanium cage, with an army. Using the genetic maps you have painstakingly perfected, you will work quickly and within a year, the massive ant farm, a network of tunnels and caverns will be bristling with hordes of your vicious rants. You will, of course, have to in-build some sort of electrode to stop your rants from turning on you and your assistants but this should not prove an obstacle to the next phase of your plans. You will begin to piece together a nuclear arsenal the like of which has not been seen before while at the same time train your rants to target the smell of paper. That�s right paper Jules � and this is the clever bit, if you raise your army of rants on a philosophy of abject nihilism, they will follow the final critical phase of the plan to the letter. For you will fit each rant with a nuclear device and send them out into the wide, wide world. Think! None would withstand them � librarians would be powerless before their fury, and smashing down the doors to archives across the globe, your loyal rants would then detonate their deadly cargoes, their last salute to you their creator, almost certainly destroying all the books that you didn�t have.

-- Roger Fascist (RogerFascis...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 8:26 AM. (Roger Fascist) (link)

That's got to be post of the week. At least.

-- James Ball (james.bal...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 9:04 AM. (James Ball) (link)

Shit Bizkit

-- Chris V. (formerlypoopsmcge...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 9:09 AM. (Chris V) (link)

Just asking a question rog. sheesh!

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 9:57 AM. (jdesouza) (link)

Impressive rant about rants roger. It illustrates the concept of "burning all the books you never had" very well. You should write a SciFi book I guess instead of wasting your skills here.

-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 10:24 AM. (alex63) (link)

Roger- the new PKD?

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 20th, 2002 10:27 AM. (jdesouza) (link)

Lynrd Skynrd!

Why all the hate for DJ Shadow? Just curious?

-- Julien Sandiford (juice_rock...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 3:46 AM. (Julien Sandiford) (link)

Jumped the shark?

-- Dan I. (w1nt3rmut...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 3:56 AM. (link)

Why all the hate for DJ Shadow? Just curious?

Topic title: "Music for assholes". DJ Shadow's main audience: students. You do the math.

-- Dom Passantino (killallgoth...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 10:06 AM. (Dom Passantino) (link)

Anyway IDM is music for assholes in definition.

-- Ally (mlescau...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 10:09 AM. (mlescaut) (link)

well, its def the 'worst' name for a genre.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 3:38 PM. (jdesouza) (link)

It just screams holier than thou, don't it? Ooh, intelligent dance music, as opposed to all that MORONIC HOSEBEAST MUSIC I was listening to prior! By very definition of the name it's made by assholes who think they are more clever than other people. Ergo...

(my ex boyfriend to thread now! Ooh boy, the fights, the fights, the times he pretended not to like Plaid and Aphex Twin)

-- Ally (mlescau...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:13 PM. (mlescaut) (link)

It just screams holier than thou, don't it? Ooh, intelligent dance music, as opposed to all that MORONIC HOSEBEAST MUSIC I was listening to prior! By very definition of the name it's made by assholes who think they are more clever than other people. Ergo...

I think people who actually use the term w/ any frequency don't think about what the letters mean. The comparison I like to make, John, is with R&B -- how often do you think of the words "rhythm & blues" when you think of Destiny's Child?
-- Mark (mar...), Yesterday 11:35 PM. (MarkR)

-- mark p (mpytli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:28 PM. (Mark P) (link)

anyway "holier than thou" really = dismissing a genre because you DON'T LIKE THE NAME

-- mark p (mpytli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:29 PM. (Mark P) (link)

Nice rant about rants. I'm gonna have nightmares.

Anyway...music for assholes?

*cough* VANILLA FRIGGIN ICE!!!! *cough*

-- nickalicious (nza2342...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:40 PM. (link)

no no I dismiss the genre because a lot of it is shit (some OK things I suppose but my patience did snap on this one). and on top of that, there's the name.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:41 PM. (jdesouza) (link)

I'm not saying its music for assholes BTW.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:42 PM. (jdesouza) (link)

Julio I was talking to Ally anyway.

-- mark p (mpytli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:54 PM. (Mark P) (link)

anyway "holier than thou" really = dismissing a genre because you DON'T LIKE THE NAME

Um, considering that I was answering a post stating it was the worst name...?? What the fuck? Sorry, in the future I will ignore ALL THINGS SAID EVER.

I wasn't aware that "Music for Assholes" was going to be a thread with anything reasonable written on it anyway - by definition everyone is dismissing genres/artists/albums/songs for stupid reasons.

-- Ally (mlescau...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 4:56 PM. (mlescaut) (link)

yes mark I know (you quoted her) I'm just firing posts out there really but since i sort of revived it (it was nearly at the bottom of new ans page) I thought i'd reply.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 5:06 PM. (jdesouza) (link)

free noise.

-- di smith (lucylure...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 9:08 PM. (lucylurex) (link)

even though some people who make free noise and some people who listen to it are in fact very nice.

-- di smith (lucylure...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 9:09 PM. (lucylurex) (link)

What is free noise?

-- man (ma...) (webmail), November 22nd, 2002 9:11 PM. (link)

Tenacious D.

-- Asshole L (andrewlittlefiel...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2002 3:50 AM. (Andrew L) (link)

Most people who listen to any of this music are perfectly nice.

-- Ally (mlescau...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2002 6:40 AM. (mlescaut) (link)

"perfectly nice"? what have you done with our ally you alien bodysnatching fiend?

-- mark s (mar...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2002 6:47 AM. (mark s) (link)

well borbetomagus to thread!

-- Julio Desouza (juli...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2002 6:49 AM. (jdesouza) (link)

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oh, Scott, you're not an asshole. I just haven't met you. All the Crazy Town enthusiasts I;ve MET ... now they suck. :-) FWIW, I don't mind the song itself.

Most people are assholes. Most people like music. Theremore, no matter where you go, you'll probably find some asshole oozing tones. Broadcast. Avengedsevenfold. Pelt. Ricardo Villalobos. Whatever. It's all music for assholes.

boring people aren't ALWAYS assholes. sometimes they know how to make killer mochachinos.

Also: 50 Cent, Genesis, Bob Marley, Aerosmith, Bright Eyes, Pussycat Dolls, the Rolling Stones, Wolf Eyes...

The former usage makes the question pointless, whereas the latter's totally fascinating: there are times when I think Social Distortion is pretty okay, but there's no question in my mind that it appeals to huge numbers of total assholes. Also: Pearl Jam's fanbase seems to include a lot of people who manage to simultaneously be total assholes and also earnestly lame. And there's a realm of MOR popular "hard rock" that always feels this way to me, from dudes who still like Bon Jovi to Nickelback or whatever. Too many people like both of those acts for them all to be assholes, but I'll bet a high proportion of guys who think they're really awesome are kind of assholey.

The definition of "asshole" I'm working on there is pretty male-centric, obviously.

Puddle of Mudd fan (same year): YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT ("Blurry" and its music video) IS ABOUT. I LIVED IT, MAN!

(also big crossover there w/Social D, which is the other best one)

I guess the one imprecise one was Sonic Youth--I really mean "people who like the SYR records."

I guess I'm an asshole.

And please, no encouraging nabisco to define asshole, thx.

well played, we'll meet again.

Putumayo and other shit world music labels with their shit marketing and packaging.

http://i47.tinypic.com/1z2zj1y.jpg

all music is for assholes, people are terrible

I'm a peaceable person - I try to avoid assholes. But I work with lots of music as part of my job, and an evil part of me likes to surf the 'net looking for something a true asshole might "enjoy". Something tells me that real assholes don't enjoy music, they use it to think they are this, that or the other.

http://www.zuguide.com/image/Tim-Robbins-High-Fidelity.2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SQ85HVegOE

anything that can be described as "minimal", "experimental", "progressive" or "noise"

Back in the day it was hardcore for people who only listen to hardcore music. I just think you should expand your horizons.