Made Out Of Babies - The Ruiner - Album Of The Year?

you got a better idea?

hell, you can even listen to the whole thing courtesy of whiney weingarten:

http://paperthinwalls.com/listeningparty/index?id=82

i will do but i really wish ilx would get off this grannytits tip it seems to be on srsly

Album cover of the year, maybe.

no.

scott/whiney is it still fuxxored? cuz i cant get it to play

hmmm, played for me earlier tonight...

I have better ideas. Really want to like the thing in theory (she sings like PJ Harvey sometimes and Geddy Lee sometimes, which is kind of cool), but it's a total chore to get through. Keep putting it back in the changer out of obligation, hoping it will finally click, and then I get tired of it; I'm just not enough of a masochist for this stuff. But I will keep trying. CD cover is indeed a masterpiece.

I mean, for extreme-so-called metal, at least it seems to be creative; they seem like they're on their own wavelength, not everybody else's. So I'm impressed and respect them and all that. But they're just not much fun to actually listen to.

alrite got it goin under safari at any rate

scott/whiney is it still fuxxored? cuz i cant get it to play

Try clearing your cache/history. Sometimes it takes that to get the player won't pop. It's definitely working as of right now.

the first track kills me, "Cooker". i love it.

play it really loud, chuck. wake up yer neighbors just like bryan adams.

it sounds best loudest.

ya i need to get my headphones out

like it 50 secs into it

i think it's fun. but i don't see it as extreme metal. i see it as actual american indie rock that kicks ass!

although sometimes it also reminds me of a really metallic sleater-kinney and i like that idea too.

My fave track is "Invisible Ink." That fist-to-the-heavens chorus just punches me in the stomach every time.

Cover is by Seldon Hunt, btw.

play it really loud, chuck. wake up yer neighbors just like bryan adams.

Oh, it cuts like a knife.

Also, NYC ilXors... Record release party is TOMORROW!

"I have better ideas."

i'm all ears for better ideas. i haven't heard that much stuff this year that i dig.

i haven't heard that much stuff this year that i dig.

^^^^ This. But I have high hopes for the second half of 2008.

xp I like the hyenas on the back cover, too!

And okay, I will try more with it. I promise.

(3 better ideas: Jamey Johnson. Legless. Tonic Rays. I'd list the next hundred, but why bore people?)

i think it's fun. but i don't see it as extreme metal. i see it as actual american indie rock that kicks ass!

^^erm yeah i dunno how this is being marketed but at any rate its in no way 'metal'

They get reviewed in Decibel, right? (Or is that just her other band?)

"My fave track is "Invisible Ink." That fist-to-the-heavens chorus just punches me in the stomach every time."

it's a beautiful song.

i definitely just like the whole thing more and more every time i hear it.

xp And I honestly don't get how they're not metal. But maybe I will like it more if I listen to it with indie-rock ears, who knows.

yeah, the new album is the lead review in the new decibel. decibel wants to make babies with made out of babies.

listen to invisible ink again, chuck. it's like belly with jesus lizard muscles. wait, that one bass player for belly actually had bigger muscles than anyone in jesus lizard. "musical" muscles.

Reviewed in Decibel = metal. Q.E.D.

Ha ha, I never liked Belly or Jesus Lizard either!
(If you say, "like the Bangles with Scratch Acid muscles," you might have me.) But I'll listen to it.

x i dont get whats metal about this other than the fact that its loud, honestly - the pace, vocals, melodic structure, its all that of a loud-ass indie rock band. i mean im 3 full tracks in & listening to the intro of the 4th track now how is any of this metal

i think its pretty great tho

xp

As for album of the year, it's def top five for me. Probably no. 3 (after Portishead and Fuck Buttons)

Like I've said elsewhere here, this is definitely one of the year's best. Top ten for sure. And yeah, it's all about "Invisible Ink" for me as well.

i kinda can't believe the band spark is a diamond got a 9 in the new decibel and made out of babies only got an 8. i wanted to like spark as a diamond, but it wasn't happening for me. they are the philly indie dance rock band with the woman singer who sounds like she's in a screamo band. kinda lame.

"Ha ha, I never liked Belly or Jesus Lizard either!"

nah, i just meant that if i were gonna compare them to anyone i wouldn't compare them to any metal bands.

“We all pretty much equally agreed that we were not going to get into a trap where we didn’t want to try something because it wasn’t in our ‘genre’ or because it wasn’t ‘heavy.’”

i kinda can't believe the band spark is a diamond got a 9 in the new decibel and made out of babies only got an 8.

8? Man, this album slaughters Coward, and that one got a 9.

Yeah. This band went from promising to awesome to amazing in three albums.

Spark as a Diamond is pretty good, by the way.

“We all pretty much equally agreed that we were not going to get into a trap where we didn’t want to try something because it wasn’t in our ‘genre’ or because it wasn’t ‘heavy.’”

Not trying to be a jerk, but a couple thousand metal bands over the past five years could just as easily have said that (and a couple hundred probably did.)

"Cooker" and "Grimace" are my jams. "Grimace" sounds like Shellac fronted by Poly Styrene. Love it!

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But they really did it!

It's like when a metal band is like "this is our hardest and angriest record ever." Usually it's bullshit, bur sometimes it really is!

is true

she does something with her voice on invisible ink that does remind me of tanya donnelly. that little twist where it goes up a register.

But they really did it!

And so did scads of other bands! I mean, there are whole subsections of metal that don't always insist on being "metal" or "heavy" all the time these days! (Some of them even use Russian folk dance rhythms!)

Yeah, but this is awesome and me and Scott love it.

WHY CAN'T THAT BE ENOUGH?!

"Bunny Boots" sounds like a Faith More track left off King For A Day , but it might be better than any of those songs.

ok 'bunny boots' = def metal

aand this seems to be getting more metal the further i get along

no judgment just an observation! xpa

If this album came out in 1995 it would be called "alterna-metal" and marketed to fans of Faith No More and Helmet and Clutch and Prong and Soundgarden. The only reason this is a "metal" album is because that's what sells albums like this now.

fans of Faith No More and Helmet and Clutch and Prong and Soundgarden

aka, me in 1995

there is this really nice girl (probably 20 or 21? maybe older. what do i know?) who works at the hospital - her mom works there too - and she started telling me about her new boyfriend and that he was in a band and i asked what the band was and she said: red sparowes? as if to say: um, you've probably never heard of them? my decibel world and my work world don't usually collide like that! anyway, i'm not a big red sparowes fan, but this record gets 9 thumbs up from me!

Wait, so "alterna-metal" is not "metal"? (How the heck were Prong and Clutch and Helmet not metal bands??)

More Q.E.D.: They record for The End = metal metal metal (at least 99 percent of the time).

Also, they sound metal.

They're a band that gets pushed as a metal band and is on a metal label and tours with metal bands and is MySpace friends with metal bands but doesn't really sound like a metal band. Like Amber Asylum.

I think of them more as the neo-pigfuck stuff with Akimbo and Gorch Fock and Black Elk and Totimoshi and Rabies Caste and Battleship and Double Dagger and the New Flesh

And, like Neurosis would play with all the pigfuck bands of the time and they were closer to the metal spectrum but still arty-farty and whatever.

I liked this okay enough but no backflips from me. I haikureviewed it in Metal Edge tho so yeah I guess it must be metal.

totimoshi sound like soundgarden. i really like the first song on their album, the rest not so much. okay, they don't JUST sound like soundgarden. they are pretty grunge though.

i think made out of babies could have been on kill rock stars ten years ago.

i dig black elk. they definitely sound like touch & go stuff. jesus lizard especially.

rabies caste were more sludge, no? doom + sludge. i liked them too. i like the label they were on. dada drumming.

rabies caste did have a drummer who was also in the very cool black metal band tangorodrim.

cover looks like a still from Election...?

alo same antelope as the interpol cover

this is really really fucking good. I like how the cover is a more badass version of the interpol one from last year.

xp!

Do I hear a bit of Sense Field in this? Like, a bit heavier than Sense Field, or maybe Sunny Day Real Estate, but heavier? That girl sounds a bit Jeremy Enigk, you have to admit...
Is that totally off base?

Heh, I thought Totimoshi were supposed to be a metal band too! (An artsy-fartsy metal band, sure, but a metal band nonetheless. And I haven't been able to get into their albums either, though I've tried.) (I honestly don't think the word "grunge" is in my ears' vocubulary anymore, unless you're talking Nirvana riffs or Pearl Jam/Creed/Nickelback-type grunting.) Don't think I've heard any of the other bands Whiney mentioned -- at least, not long enough to get any sort of half-assed impression from them.

Good album this.

I'm gonna hate this, aren't I

http://www.metal-invader.com/interviews/made_out_of_babies-2005-12-19/images/191205_made_out_of_babies_1.jpg

Is this actually out now?

My previous experience of this band was when they supported Neurosis at one of the pretty big one-off gigs they play in London every so often. I can't remember if I saw any of MOOB cos I drank quite a lot on the drive down, but the people from MOOB kept crowdsurfing and stagediving and knocking shit over while Neurosis were playing and I think Neurosis got really fucked off and this might even be why they're not on their label anymore. So I didn't have a particularly strong image of these guys in my head but people's descriptions actually sound good so I'm gonna listen to this when I get the chance

Is this actually out now?

I'm in negotiations to prevent its release

J0hn, it only took you 6 minutes and 8 seconds to go from apprehension to blocked distro!

I know, I listened to the first song

(to be fair, I haven't heard a note of it. But even if I were to join your cause, it's too late. It's for sale now on the ol' I-TUNE).

LOVING this. this is absolutely gorgeous stuff. cheers scott...

been meaning to pick up a MOOB album ever since I fell prostrate at the feet of Battle of Mice. kicking myself for not having done so earlier.

Just FYI guys I realized this syncs up w/"Grimace" and lost my shit in class:

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/06/JAYZGERVAIS.gif

"Grimace" is in 6/8, jayz.gif is in 5/4, u trippin

I like this a lot (which probably won't help J0hn's opinion any), but I see what Chuck's saying. I like particular moments more than whole songs, and in general I wish most of the songs were about a third shorter.

That said, I am listening to it in a library.

"I know, I listened to the first song"

yer crazy. best opening album track in forever.

i e-mailed my best pal lance and told him he would love this and here is his reply:

"Thanks scott

you are correct I just listened to some of this and it's awesome

claire grogan meets jo kennedy meets "come" meets "pretty girls make
graves" meets throwing muses when they were still scary-?

count me in!!!!

I'm buying this today!!!!!!

if i was a musician or a lady (two dreams that never came true)
I would have made it myself!!!!"

"jo kennedy"

lance and i are the world's biggest fans of starstruck the movie and soundtrack. we would form a fan-club but we are lazy.

why do people report their opinion on a record during their first listening

what is the point of that

-- J0hn D., Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:57 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Link

this sounds pretty great to me.

I dunno, it's cool that they're trying stuff but I think I hate the recording and there's not much in the way of songs.

You could convince me that it's a recording that you have to play loud, I guess.

there's not much in the way of songs

what are you talking about? there are nine of 'em. NINE.

That's some HARD-HITTING criticism right there! I expect AT LEAST 16 songs!

four is the bare minimum. 12? too many.

M@tt: jokes, bruv

I listened a couple times today, this is just not my thing

YOUR THING SUX

GET ONE NEW THING

yeah dude sorry it's boring and unfocused

apology accepted

though admittedly if I didn't hate the vocals SO SO MUCH I might be able to dig it

[zing removed here for the sake of peace harmony and love]
[it was a good zing tho ok]

M@tt: jokes, bruv

I listened a couple times today, this is just not my thing

-- J0hn D., Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:52 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

just teasing my good man : )

word

MetalSucks gave this 4.5 today with a "just listen to it, it fucking rules" today

Futile word to skot: Lern hau to resize imagery.

Yes - make those tittays BIGGER!

Hoo! Uncle!

Stock imagery of Australopithecus eggzackly for indie fans. Hipgnosis wept.

Shameless Ruiner-related plug:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/columns/article/59577/all-treadmill-no-fishnets-an-interview-with-made-out-of-babies-julie-christ/

RUN. RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

"i dig black elk. they definitely sound like touch & go stuff. jesus lizard especially."

Black Elk now has the drummer from Icarus Line. They just recorded their 2nd album for the 2nd time (in order to work in their incredible new skinsman). It's going off in the mail to Crucial Blast next week.

I've listened to it (premaster) a few times and it's such a leap beyond their old material. Anyone who already liked them is going to freak out when they hear this.

I like this MOOB but I have a hard time imagining it's something I would want to hear over and over again. It's definitely the best stuff I've heard from them yet. Throwing Musisms are really welcome.

I think you folks that like the heavy rock with the gorgeous female vox should look up a UK artist named Rose Kemp. I think her new one on One Little Indian is a real "album of the year" contender.

What I decided about the album:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/07/christmas-made.html#more

hi i just skimmed through this whole thread and basically, yeah, this band fucking rules so hard i can't even deal with it right now. holy balls. i just got this album yesterday. this is, like, revelatory for me at this very moment. this is very exciting. i hope i don't lose interest after a few listens. i don't think i'm going to. wow. my face is falling off. yes.

^^agreed^^

loved this on the stream, but now I have the disc in my hands, and yeah...mostly even more wow. shades of loads of other bands (particularly early tool, jesus lizard, queen adreena, kate bush in places), but totally out on its own too. it exists at that strange junction between terrifying and endearing. feckin' mighty stuff.

but they're just not much fun to actually listen to.

i've had loads of fun listening to this all week. my metal tolerance is mainly confined to old school sabbath, iron maiden and judas priest; the only really newish metal stuff I listen to is Opeth. it's certainly more fun than Opeth. I really like anticipating the breaks into the pretty bits on the MOOB songs; there's also one song that just relentlessly repeats the hook at the end over and over like 20 times (not sure which song). anyway, I love this.

I sincerely love this band.

I missed this at the time, but it came up on Rhapsody recommendations recently and I've been playing it a lot. That first track, Cooker, is pretty great by the end -- almost reminds me of Swans or something -- but the indie-rock side of the sound *does* bug me a bit. The Throwing Muses comparisons have something to them, and I like Throwing Muses and I like the louder parts of MOOB, but something about the mixture puts me off. I want to like them more than I do, I guess. But yeah, at loud enough volume Cooker is pretty great.

it came up on Rhapsody recommendations recently

Ha ha, I am totally responsible for this -- I made it a "metal staff pick" a couple weeks back. (I have to pick three new ones every week.) And I never even really liked the album much (see above -- I was on a real anti-metal kick 3 1/2 years ago!)

(Or anti-non-metal. Or whatever they were.)

Gotta say that one of the reasons I keep Rhapsody is the staff picks, which are much more interesting than the Spotify ones. The other big one is that Rhapsody has the Pink Floyd catalog...