The Moderat thread (Apparat/Modeselektor collab)

No thread on this yet that I can find, other than a mention in the Apparat - Walls one. So, what do we reckon ILX? I've only listened twice through, but it's definitely pushing my buttons. With Apparat involved, it's going to sound great and it does, but it seems to have some excellent songs as well. A New Error, Rusty Nails and Seamonkey make for a really strong beginning. Big Burial influence on some of it (Rusty Nails especially - great breathy Apparat vocal on that one too) but it doesn't dominate.

Anyway, early days as yet but I liked it enough after two listens to pre-order it this afternoon.

Thoughts?

I liked it -- my AMG review, FWIW.

Haven't heard this yet but definitely looking forward to it.

Finally, the "soon" has been replaced with Buy

http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/526

It's £7.99 on Amazon.co.uk I think, that's where I ordered it from. As opposed to €18 on the Bpitch Control site. Free DVD too apparently.

there will be an NTSC release too, thanfully.

I like it well enough, but I do think the vocals are terrible. Luckily that only affects a few of the songs.

didnt really feel this at all

basically pretty boring imo

sounded like radiohead-meets-burial, but even less interesting

i like apparat a lot tho

it made me want to listen to the ellen allien & apparat album instead

yeah, there was maybe 1 or 2 interesting tracks but mostly i was just like, damn, wish this was walls/bubbles

and also the apparat track on the luomo album

yeah, it made me want to listen to Orchesta of Bubbles. i sold my promo to Amoeba...

really, it comes down to the fact that for me, Modeselektor is a great live performer but his records have always struck me as spotty.

it made me want to listen to the ellen allien & apparat album instead

― lex pretend

mostly i was just like, damn, wish this was walls/bubbles

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max)

yeah, it made me want to listen to Orchesta of Bubbles.

― the table is the table

^basically this^

Only with me it also made me want to pull out Happy Birthday! and Hello Mom as well.

I think it's great, but I'm wrong, apparently.

yep, too bad for you, but good you can admit it

found this really boring, but i pretty much hate on modeselektor, both on record and live, they were on some big beat shit last time i saw them live, and i'm not too keen on apparat's vocals.

I'm quite enjoying this, but then I enjoy pretty much everything with Apparat's name on it. Not sure prettying up dubstep is really what I'd ideally like from him, but it's pretty good.

really, it comes down to the fact that for me, Modeselektor is a great live performer but his records have always struck me as spotty.

― the table is the table

that Modeselektor is such a crazy guy!

I still don't get the fuss over "Walls" at all, it's really mostly fluff (although the highs are very high). "Duplex" is a much more solid record.

I need to give this a proper listen but the samples inspired.. almost nothing in me tbh :/

The booka shade remix of rusty nails is pretty sweet though!

Duplex was boring even by late-era IDM standards.

well maybe what I feel is that it did all of the mostly good things about Walls first, minus the totally cringe bits, minus the over-polish and felt a lot more coherent. With a bit less range sure, but the range on Walls mostly extends to tracks that are pretty bad.

I don't know what album y'all are listening to but I'm still thinking this is awesome and second only to Fever Ray this year. The DVD is pretty sweet too - mostly black & white & minimal, but very nice.

Looking forward to catching their set at Dissonanze this weekend. Like the record v.much

Modeselektor live 3 years ago was one of the most fun sets I've attended.
The minute of the Modeselektor set I saw last year turned me off them for good. Here's hoping Apparat can salvage them, doing what he did to them what he did to Ellen Allien.

Anyone else think the chorus of Stick With It should have been sung by Bowie?

Depending on the version you get, you'll have two or four more tracks that aren't mentioned in any review since the promo only had 11 tracks:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fjfqxz9kldde = 11 tracks
http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/481 = 13 tracks
http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/526 = 15 tracks (+ DVD)

The amount of stuff that's going on in the background is amazing, I'm just discovering, listening with good headphones

One track in and I am digging this a lot.

heard this yesterday for the 1st time, pretty great...not boring AT ALL

Yeah, listened again last night and really enjoyed it. Except Sick With It, hafta skip that one.

it made me want to listen to Gerald Mitchell instead

I thought they were amazing at the Roundhouse the other night. Anyone else go?

I bought the album yesterday but haven't had the chance to listen to it yet.

Got the CD+DVD pack in the post yesterday from Amazon. Fantastic packaging and 4 extra tracks.

yeah they were brilliant at the roundhouse. the tracks sounded a lot more dubsteppy live. it's really brought me around to the album

This album is great, maybe the best thing that either act has ever done.

I downloaded this many weeks ago, but I'm just listening to it now. Kicking myself for not doing it soon. This. Is. Great.

soon=sooner

This album is great, maybe the best thing that either act has ever done.

I don't know Modeselektor's previous stuff, but it's not quite Orchestra Of Bubbles or Walls. Still pretty great though.

Walls is pretty weak IMO

Oof, have to disagree. Beautiful album IMO. Orchestra of Bubbles is the best thing he's been involved in though, for me.

Johnny Fever, if you downloaded it weeks ago *cough*, you might want to make sure you have the actual album version and not the promo. The promo was in mono, as mentioned elsewhere, and lacks some of the oomph of the released version.

So rich. I like it even more as time goes on.

I just read the press release for this and it made me laugh:

"Szary and Bronsert, both proud fathers, were on their way to the "Stadtbad Mitte" (Berlin-Mitte City Pool) with their children for their regular Monday swimming lessons when they ran into Ring, a devout bachelor who happened to be
accompanied by several dubious females."

"Yeah, listened again last night and really enjoyed it. Except Sick With It, hafta skip that one."

That song is really, really horrible.

So much so that I took it off my iPod.

"Sick With It" is great!

"Stick With It" is the weakest song on the album (although it's far from horrible).

This is my fave album of the year thus far.

"Sick With It" haters are crazy, it's awesome!

^^^ otm

And the rest of the record is good too!

^^^ otm*2

this album makes more sense to me in this rainy weather than it has all during the summer

Pfork feature today:

http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/7671-moderat

gloomy goodness: http://www.nialler9.com/2009/07/27/reeeemix-moderat-and-speech-debelle/

looove 'Slow Match'

Listened to this album again the other day and realised it really is Apparat's contribution that makes Orchestra of Bubbles for me. There's a real 'Apparat sheen' that this, Walls and Bubbles all have in common that just does it for me. No other Ellen record has really matched up.

yeah but Ellen brings the fun(k)

srsly rusty nails

booka shade remix > original

Shackleton remix likewise

nah to the shackleton one tho it is awesome it is no replacement imo, but i haven't heard this booka shade one but imagine it wld be more up my alley

There's a new Moderat compilation called "50 weapons of choice #2-9" that's all remixes and stuff, but this 2009 album of theirs, man, wow. Just heard it again after a while and it's just phenomenal.

http://www.monkeytownrecords.com/news/view/55/2013-01-31-moderat-new-album-ii-out-august-2nd-2013

http://www.factmag.com/2013/04/30/modeselektor-and-apparat-announce-full-details-of-new-moderat-album-ii/

Looking forward to this

awesome

http://moderat.fm/bad-kingdom-first-single-from-the-upcoming-album-ii-out-july-12-2013/

album has l34k3d

yay sad techno makes me happy or i mean wait what i haven't heard this it's not out yet

brb gonna go punch myself in the face

good couple weeks for releases/leaks imo

http://moderat.fm/video-for-bad-kingdom/ (I don't think the video's there yet though?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1gewNVv1UY

http://www.npr.org/2013/07/24/205158117/first-listen-moderat-ii

And it's another beaut.

it sure as hell is

okay I had to pause the stream for a while and when I came back, I lost track of where I was in the track listing but this dubby shuffle beat track is THE SHIT

(I originally wrote "is fucking THE TITS" but that didn't look right)

FYI the track I'm freaking out over is "Milk"

yeah this album is THE SHIT. let in the light, milk, therapy, damage done, and this time are all favorites

Versions and Therapy too... In fact, Gita is the only one I don't like (yet?)

Lovely stuff.

I like this but it doesn't feel any more or less of anything than the first.

i remember being disappointed by the first but this is v lovely - though i agree with boxedjoy that it's not really any different

I also agree with boxedjoy, only I adored the first one too

is this not what you wanted, or what you had in mind?

This is exactly what I wanted? I don't understand the question.

the first song of the album has those lyrics

Lol well I only played it once so

yeah, I guess not everyone is a savage who pirated it last month

why are these cunts going basically everywhere I am over the next few months but not on the same days

because your life is out of balance

xxpost: the Bad Kingdom single (with those lyrics) was released a month ago

Just received the deluxe edition, including booklet (pics & lyrics) and a bonus track that has lyrics and everything (was expecting some atmospheric/filler/instrumental track, but this is a full on ballad kinda song)

"Last Time" = bonus track title btw

I mean, I do really like this and I imagine once I've spent more time with it I'll be able to pick the two apart, but so far this just feels like the tempos are generally lower.

Modeselektor are generally a bit ignored these days aren't they? I loved their first two albums at the time but I'm scared what I'll discover when I listen back.

Modeselektor stands up IMO

they are big fun and have been releasing big fun records on their label imo

have seen both modeselektor and apparat, never together, though

'Therapy' is so gorgeous.

http://www.factmag.com/2013/08/23/moderat-ii/

(two star review + short rockism conversation in the comments)

LOL at everything about that review

Really wish review sites would let me click on the writer's name to see their other reviews.

I do like when he name checked similar spaces that post-date Apparat and Modeselektor, including a broken beat dude bro. They are so rockist, tho

hey guess what, this was great

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/kitbrash/moderat_zps83680dc1.jpg

lol, that review makes it sound amazing and makes me want to go listen to it again.

just in case there are a few of you hoping to catch the tour :

On Saturday afternoon (07.09.2013) Sascha Ring, member of the band Moderat had a motorcycle accident in Berlin. We are happy to announce that given the circumstances, Sascha and his girlfriend - who was with him at the time - are doing well.

However, Sascha has sustained a complicated multiple leg fracture that is likely to impede his mobility greatly in the coming weeks.

To ensure Sascha’s full recovery we will have to postpone all upcoming Moderat tour dates until January 2014

I hope they mean a multiple fracture on one leg and not both legs!

‘Bad Kingdom’, the first vocal-led track, begins with electro bass-stabs (SBTRKT comes to mind) before morphing into the kind of cloying post-rave pop that riddled the early ’90s (think The Beloved’s ‘Sweet Harmony’) – all leisurely breakbeats, church-y synths, angelic choirs and falsetto vocals.

Haha, he just described like half my favourite tunes from the early 90s. There's something wrong with anyone who doesn't like the combination of leisurely breakbeats and church-y synths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK47r9AuYhs

Bad Kingdom, Damage Done, Nr. 22 - Electronic Beats Festival, Prague (28 March 2014)

Complete festival show, last Thursday - will only be online for a couple of weeks:

http://concert.arte.tv/de/melt-2014-moderat

Woooo!
https://twitter.com/ModeratOfficial/status/572846357557477377

III

Coinciding with a Spring 2016 tour Moderat return with their new album III:

Release Date: April 1, 2016

Intent on creating something that contrasted their own individual projects, Moderat ‑ the trio comprised of Gernot Bronsert, Sebastian Szary (aka Modeselektor) and Sascha Ring (aka Apparat) ‑ complete the trilogy with III.

III pairs an emotional pull with sensual imagery, creating dynamic sound and depth with sophisticated lyrics and themes as they direct their gaze inward.
Apparat gives unfiltered insight into his personal take on the journey we call life ‑ he is opening up, discussing his shadow, his fears and doubts.
Modeselektor reach another level, develop an intoxicating energy with their distinct rhythmical textures.

One of the best parts of Moderat is their use of electronics to achieve orchestral diversity. With III, they update the songwriting tradition with an intriguing palette, born of careful attention and skill, informed by their experiences with sounds of nearly 25 years of sub‑and‑club culture. These three were initially brought together by Berlin's now legendary rave scene and with this as their common foundation as individuals, III signifies Moderat's maturation in modern pop and mastery of the group.

Moderat's III is out April 1, 2016 on Monkeytown Records.
The trio will take their impressive live show all over Europe and North America in support of this release.

MODERAT III IS READY FOR PRE-ORDER NOW! ( http://www.monkeytownrecords.com/products )

MTR063CD - Digipak CD
MTR064CD - Digipak 2CD
MTR063LP - 1LP
MTR064LP - Gatefold 2LP
MTR065Box - Limited Box Set *
Digital Download **

* incl. download voucher
** incl. 3xCD, 3xLP (exclusive remixes, instrumentals and outtakes)

2016 Tour dates: http://www.monkeytownrecords.com/dates#moderat

Nice gesture to offer a 1LP version. Tired of 6min flipping intervals.

Oh good.

Any samples released? I'd love to hear this.

No samples found yet, no.

Reminder/Fondle EP out on Feb 19th: https://boomkat.com/products/reminder-3f8e6921-8e07-493f-b672-0054563f445e

Reminder is out now:

https://open.spotify.com/album/34leSDkpEeoIPkyhzSIDYg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1zpuISBYTs

nice

Not available in UK :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJwsNUoazUg

This EP is wonderful

I'm still wondering if "the trio ... complete the trilogy with III" means they only ever planned to do three albums and then quit, or just that it's the third album.

Hey Stan sent me this but didn't post in here. 90 second teasers of the whole album:

https://www.deep.hu/catalog/MTR063CDD

This sounds excellent.

I don't know if they're allowed to do that yet, which is why I didn't, but yeah. :-)

Oops!

Leaked completely now

Oh, and there's a live EP with this month's (German) Musik Express magazine:

https://abo.musikexpress.de/produkt/musikexpress-ausgabe-042016-moderat-cd-live-in-berlin-xxvii-ii-mmxiv/
( https://www.discogs.com/Moderat-Live-In-Berlin-XXVII-II-MMXIV/release/8243150 )

I'm really looking forward to this.

That live EP is fabulous, btw. Ordered the magazine and got it only a couple of days later (in belgium, from germany, ymmv)

1 hour special, interview and liner notes about every track (in German)

http://www.kraftfuttermischwerk.de/blogg/moderat-ueber-die-entstehung-ihres-neuen-albums-iii/

(even though I don't understand everthing they're saying, there's a lot of new music in there too + some different work in progress versions of Reminder etc)

Listening to III now, really nice

III is really growing on me

I've heard the first half, there are a lot more vocals that on their other albums (that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I like when they mix it up between tracks with vocals and vocal-free bangers)

I was at a wedding so I'm a bit drunk and this might not make any sense tomorrow but I just heard this album and life of pablo by Kanye and it's so noticeable how superior the production is on this album. Wishful thinking but i'd love to have moderat producing a kanye album. This is just sooo good a production and Kanye clearly wants to sound this good in his backtracks but doesn't know how. The mastering is fucking terrible on kanye and I want Moderat to shine in the mainstream because both modeselektor and apparat are so brilliant that they deserve to be known worldwide.

Don't mind me doesn't make sense but I'm drunk and I want to hear a moderat produced mainstream album.

Related: Finder is fucking awesome but this whole album is.

Yep that doesn't make any sense. This is a brilliant album though. Everyone hear it, now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVawpT44Hrk

EP out with Shed remix

https://soundcloud.com/fadermedia/fader-mix-moderat
and
https://www.mixcloud.com/corenewsuploads/moderat-essential-mix-2016-05-07/

(both amazing in their own way)

incredible live show, see em if you can

This album has really grown on me. Once I got used to the idea of a slickly produced electronic pop/R&B album with little connection to anything "techno", it was smooth sailing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2_dOLpl7A

^ that was the complete Nantes show - it's still here: http://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/live/musique/electro/moderat-au-stereolux-a-nantes-238561

This album has really grown on me. Once I got used to the idea of a slickly produced electronic pop/R&B album with little connection to anything "techno", it was smooth sailing.

agree 100% with this.

i got the 2cd edition on a whim last week and was somewhat taken aback as i expected more of a techno vibe,
but given that i love the Rhye album, this has totally clicked with me now.

I find some of his vocals on this album a bit syrupy and overdone.

Theres a 2.5hr live album now, haven't heard yet

It's 75 minutes, Plus one track that contains the whole show again in one gapless file.

Ah, well, that makes sense

Was playing one of the angstier Moderat tunes the other day, girlfriend walks in and says 'what are you doing listening to Coldplay?' which has put me off them a bit. It's true he could do with toning down the vox sometimes.

They are playing live at Roskilde this summer. Should I see them?

yes.

There's an old DJ Shadow track I loved that my wife ruined by saying it sounded like John Farnham, which is a mad opinion and also unlikely to make sense to non-Australians

They're b4ck!?

https://m.facebook.com/moderat.band/posts/422408775913710

moderat.fm sends you to ticket sales for a show in Berlin in September 2022: https://www.monkeytowntickets.com/tickets

just in case... "MORE D4TA" happens to be an anagram of MODERAT 4

https://www.monkeytownrecords.com/moderat-announce-more-d4ta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzMP2A66jIQ

there's a lot to read in those credits (3:17 for instance = ? )

I missed the release of Moderat II - 10th Anniversary Sped-up Edition and... it's a funny novelty release? I'm trying to figure out if it's basically the 33 1/3 album played at 45rpm