― dave q, Friday, 11 October 2002 08:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 11 October 2002 08:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― s trife (simon_tr), Friday, 11 October 2002 08:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 11 October 2002 08:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:06 (twenty-three years ago)
You can keep the Astral Weeks, I have got it myself. With the years I kind of got used to it though it definitely is overestimated a lot. It is not bad but not good either. All right background music for not listening to.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― a different Sean, Friday, 11 October 2002 09:27 (twenty-three years ago)
(This Lester Bangs piece persuaded me to buy Astral Weeks . Not as awesome as I hoped but still a fine album IMHO.)
― stevo (stevo), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― alexfack, Friday, 11 October 2002 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― angelo (angelo), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)
Luckily, I persevered.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 11 October 2002 10:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― david gunnip, Friday, 11 October 2002 10:53 (twenty-three years ago)
Tom, I'd like your 'Astral Weeks', I sold mine and have regretted it ever since, although not enough to buy another one. I'd keep hold of it, just in case, if I were you.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)
Re: "Astral Weeks" - the Bangs piece is the reason why I haven't said anything about it on CoM. It's definitive and I can't top it (for 1968 read 1984, otherwise it all has personal relevance for me, including the concluding Lorca quote).
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 11 October 2002 11:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:32 (twenty-three years ago)
Also agree with the nomination of Love's "Forever Changes", except the first track is really good.
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― matt riedl (veal), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 11 October 2002 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)
Belle and Sebastian - Boy with The Arab Strap. God knows why, against all my better judgement, I bought this rubbish. By track three I would have gladly accepted 50p if someone would have come and taken it away. No, I would have paid to have it destroyed in front of me.
Afghan Whigs - Gentlemen. The gulf between the claims made for this piece of shit and what it's REALLY like is several universes wide.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 October 2002 11:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)
I had a degree of "buyer's remorse" recently when I bought the Soul sessions double CD compilation. The first 12 tracks on CD1 were all 80s 'deep soul', which is not my cup of tea at all (cheap electronic keyboards, "Come on baby, let's get on down tonight" type lyrics, about as much 'soul' as a plastic carrier bag IMHO. The Luther Vandross track was the highlight!). Fortunately, the last two tracks and most of CD2 consisted of 1970s stuff - much more what I was expecting/hoping for: Chi-lites, Isaac Hayes, Millie Jackson... My remorse was slightly overcome. Not completely tho'.
― Jeff W, Friday, 11 October 2002 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)
I lurve almost everything that everyone else here hates. Am I just contrary? Although I'm with Tom on the Grandaddy, thass fer shore.
― J (Jay), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:29 (twenty-three years ago)
Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy- I forget the name of it, but it's got a cover of "Thriller" on it. Sounded like a bad novelty album. I should've been tipped off when I bought it from a used record store and it was still sealed.
Husker Du- New Day Rising- I like "Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill", but the rest is awful. I can't understand why their name keeps popping up when describing great albums of the 1980s.
― Vic Funk, Friday, 11 October 2002 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)
Forever Changes, rubbish? you sir, are an ass.
Gentlemen, a "piece of shit"? you sir, see above.(I wont even comment on Grandaddy)
It is one thing to state your opinion, but funny that, your posts seem to imply some definitive take of the albums...
― insectifly (insectifly), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)
And I agree re Moon Pix except I really like that "Colors and Kids" song.
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)
Yeah and Gentleman is rubbish. I believed the hype that he was some great white soulman, rather than just sounding constipated. I'm not stating an opinion btw, just a scientifically proven fact.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 October 2002 12:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)
One man's Double Hipness is another man's Gentlemen.
(I think these are the only two records we've ever disagreed on.)
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 11 October 2002 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)
Moon Pix on the other hand is a true classic. I saw Cat Power live on the Moon Pix tour. One of the most mesmerizing concerts I have ever been to. Chan Marshall was somewhere in the clouds whereas the guitarist brought the whole thing back to earth again.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)
Tom, can't you leave your 'Astral Weeks' on the coffee table and get your housemates to have a catfight over it?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nick A., Friday, 11 October 2002 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:39 (twenty-three years ago)
Deserter's Songs & Astral Weeks & Husker Du & THe Soft Bulletin IS GRATE you heathens!
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)
That Starsailor record got sold back to the record store VERY quickly, as did a ? & the Mysterians CD that was in fact old songs recorded in the '90s. I was VERY mad about that one, especially since I noticed it on the CD case literally 2 seconds into listening to it.
― Aaron W., Friday, 11 October 2002 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 11 October 2002 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)
* The Dead Kennedys' Plastic Surgery Disasters. Bought it at age 15, hated it, traded it in for, I think, a Rush album. I was still in transition, obviously.
* Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols. Also bought as a teenager. "I thought this was supposed to be intimidating! Why aren't I scared?"
― Mike Appelstein (mike a), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)
I don't remember workbook being THAT good. copper blue and beaster are fantastic but surely anyone who likes those sugar recs must surely like Husker Du. Zen Arcade and the last alb are beautiful beautiful records (the last one makes you believe that major labels aren't evil). will have to go home and play 'em tonight.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nate Patrin, Friday, 11 October 2002 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)
Also, I kind of regret having spent the cash on a bunch of Brilliant Corners LPs, they are not bad but don't do much for me. May put them up on ebay at some point.
This is kind of like the worst albums ever thread. It's fine to dislike anything but most of the stuff here isn't even close to the worst stuff out there. Search allmusic guide for devilhead. Of course, it's doubtful anyone ever actualy purchased a devilhead CD.
― g (graysonlane), Friday, 11 October 2002 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)
obv.
― DavidM (DavidM), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)
Double Nickels On The Dime was doubly painful for having imported the bluddy thing, & Screamedelica irritates me in a profound & distressing way.
― Ess Kay (esskay), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 October 2002 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Aaron W., Friday, 11 October 2002 16:13 (twenty-three years ago)
I made my brother buy Loveless and burn a copy for me, and I'm glad, because I must be the only person in the history of this site who doesn't think it's the be-all and end-all.
Not so lucky with Alicia Keys (I know, but it was cheap...still not worth it) or El-P.
― Matt C., Friday, 11 October 2002 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― david h (david h), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)
i kill ya!!!!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― david h (david h), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)
You're not. I think I started a thread about this w long while ago, actually.
― J (Jay), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― david h (david h), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)
And I also like seeing Clinic's Walking with Thee mentioned. I got some shit for trashing that album when it came out, but I was right! Hooray! Thank you Molly!
(hooray thank you molly was yelled repeatedly by a crazy low biggest fan last night after every song. apparently she is unaware that low's drummer's name is, in fact, mimi.)
― Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 16:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nate Patrin, Friday, 11 October 2002 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)
as a rule, i'm not really interested in british people. that whole island is pretty much a barren wasteland. but i suspended my prejudice or whatever and ordered it. unheard!
i felt sad because i was not able to listen to any of the songs all the way through and it cost me money. i felt angry and betrayed.
― dk, Friday, 11 October 2002 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― g (graysonlane), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)
Then what is Belle & Sebastian ("shit" does not qualify because of its obviousness)?
And Nate, Walking with Thee is an extremely dull record. Yesterday I was listening to their stuff in order: the singles, then Internal Wrangler and Walking with Thee. It stuck out like an awful thumb! A few good songs, though: The Equaliser, Welcome and Sunlight Bathes Our Home.
― Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)
Of those I have paid for, Chris TT's Beatverse felt like a rip-off for £1. Oh, and Simian's Chemistry Is What We Are. One good song then back to the M&VE from whence it came...
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)
Well I get transfixed by the beats myself -- there's a lot of subtle disco/house rhythm at work that I find plays off the melodies and riffs in a ridiculously catchy manner, or maybe it just seems that way to me because I've been going on a severe Daft Punk bender this year and if I wanted to I could extrapolate house rhythms from "Welcome to the Jungle". I still have yet to get ahold of Internal Wrangler though I know a couple songs off it (i.e. the rules-all title track and "Return of Evil Bill") and I've gotta familiarize myself with their earlier stuff (read: I AM A BIG POSER who bought their most recent album first! Oh no!). Most of the complaints I've heard about WWT is that "Wrangler woz bettah" and as someone who didn't have that album as his first impression of Clinic I suppose my opinion's pretty tainted. Should be interesting to see what they throw into their set tonight.
Oh hey, back on topic, I was kerfooked by The Rising, too. It's the kind of album I can listen to in the car with my folks but that's about it. I knew I shoulda gotten Darkness on the Edge of Town instead.
― Nate Patrin, Friday, 11 October 2002 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)
The last album that really pissed me off by its awfulness was Title TK from the Breeders.
― Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)
Girls Against Boys
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)
Who is going to kill me first, then?
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 11 October 2002 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lukas Bergstrom (lukas), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lukas Bergstrom (lukas), Friday, 11 October 2002 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)
My god there's WORSE?
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 11 October 2002 23:08 (twenty-three years ago)
I pretty much bought every new record he did as soon as it came out from Flip Your Whig to that self titled one, but I haven't heard anything since.
Doesn't seem like I have missed much.
I used to like Nick Cave until he started making all of those ballads records. They are not bad for what they are...but they are not what I like. I still haven't heard his last one.
― earlnash, Friday, 11 October 2002 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Famous Athlete, Saturday, 12 October 2002 02:09 (twenty-three years ago)
I was the music director of my radio station last year, so I had the pleasure of feeling burnt out on music and never wanting to hear another note just about, oh, twenty times a day? You guys have no idea the sheer volume of dreck that gets put out...
― Clarke B. (emily), Saturday, 12 October 2002 02:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 12 October 2002 06:41 (twenty-three years ago)
And I nominate Kiss - Alive. Let the roasting begin!
― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 12 October 2002 06:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― doug, Sunday, 13 October 2002 04:17 (twenty-three years ago)
Neither of those are the first albums.
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 13 October 2002 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ernest P., Sunday, 13 October 2002 13:33 (twenty-three years ago)
I put it on again and adored it though.
― Graham (graham), Sunday, 13 October 2002 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)
I too mistakenly bought Zen Arcade. Biggest pile of leaden punk toss ever. Can't agree with the slating Genleman is receiving though.
― bert, Sunday, 13 October 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, 13 October 2002 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)
my big mistake was jimmy eat world. boy was i ever wrong about that one.
― dyson (dyson), Sunday, 13 October 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Did you see 'em last night, Angelo? I was too busy being teeth-clenchingly disappointed by the Nightmares On Wax live "experience"...
Anyone who regrets buying This Is Hardcore or Run Come Save Me hasn't given either record nearly enough time to settle in - your perseverence will be righly rewarded...
Oh, and to answer the question: Is A Woman - 2002's greatest disappointment.
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 00:25 (twenty-three years ago)
― threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 October 2002 05:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― doug, Monday, 14 October 2002 06:21 (twenty-three years ago)
I am a fool. I will never cross the atlantic again.
― Kiwi, Monday, 14 October 2002 07:19 (twenty-three years ago)
Which reminds me: shouldn't Faithless own this thread?
Anyway: Sex & Misery by Voice of the Beehive and cLOUDDEAD, S/T
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 14 October 2002 07:40 (twenty-three years ago)
MBV - Isn't anythingB.R.M.CEd HarcourtLatest GYBE!Moldy PeachesSlowdive - SouvlakiWhite Stripes - white blood cells
― Marc, Monday, 14 October 2002 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)
― Marc, Monday, 14 October 2002 10:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― Marc, Monday, 14 October 2002 11:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 14 October 2002 11:42 (twenty-three years ago)
Bark Psychosis 'Hex' - "laid-back" and "beautiful," yes, definitely. but they forgot Capital-B-oring. at least on the first listen. set aside for many weeks, dusted off during just the right moment (lazy, rainy day; housework), savored. saw immediate jetscreaming leap to unimpeachable #1 Best Album of All Time status.
recently: Cosmos (Sachiko M. & Ami) - 'Tears' - man, i'm just not 'getting' this one at all. perhaaps a good sign...
summerslastsound/ gg
― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Monday, 14 October 2002 11:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 14 October 2002 12:40 (twenty-three years ago)