Oral Sex linked to Mouth Cancer

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― smee (smee), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Am I the only person who finds this alarming?

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

we have websex - it's much safer.

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

No. I was surrounded by blubbing men in the pub last night.

― Lara, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

So all I've got to do is get mouth cancer and then its oral sex agogo.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

"We know smoking and drinking is probably the cause in 80% of cases"

I'm not a smoker, so I shan't be panicking yet!

― C J (C J), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, suddenly girls who smoke will become *far* more attractive as, being already at risk, this news will raise no new concrens.

*And* their hand-to-mouth co-ordination is already top-notch!

― Lara, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

'One of the things that has interested me over the past 15 years is the increase in the number of women with oral cancer. It used to be five men to one woman but it is now about two men to one woman. What we do not know is whether this is all down to smoking.

'When I see the increase in women with oral cancer I think oral sex has to be one of the causes.'

What, so like women didn't give blow jobs 15 years ago?

― smee (smee), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I blame Linda Lovelace.

― Lara, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it has to do with the end of National Service.

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess "smoking" ANYTHING is dangerous!

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

And Linda Lovelace.

― Lara, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I play a lot of videogames, so I have excellent hand-to-eye coordination. Is that good for anything?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Do computer games improve you in any way at all?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:21 (twenty-three years ago)

the headline is misleading scare tactix. it is actually HPV which is suggested to cause oral as well as cervical cancer -- i.e. it is not oral sex which causes cancer, but oral sex on a diseased prick.

Moral of story? Don't suck off skanks.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Well yeah, but I don't think HPV carriers are automatically skanks, are they, Sterling?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean that's like saying penetrative sex doesn't cause AIDS.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

It doesn't. HIV does.

If someone told you that having sex increased yr. chances of getting AIDS I mean -- in one sense yes, but in another it's not like linking smoking to cancer where the act itself contributes to risk, but rather where conducting the act carelessly can leave you open to new risk.

If you run around saying "sex causes AIDS!" you sound like some fundamentalist no-sex-ed wackjob.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

receiving is still fine, right?

right?

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

It doesn't. HIV does.

Yeah, I know duh. My point was that ultimately, it does (unless you are Mbeki and want to argue about the point).

Whether it is more helpful in a sex education message to say 'unprotected sex causes AIDS' is another issue. Yes, it is. But in this case, if HPV is orally transmittable, this is new knowledge. People didn't know it could before so people have of course been having unprotected oral sex (protected cunnilingus - yeach!). So to say 'Unprotected oral sex causes cervical cancer' would be a ridiculous headline. And your other suggestion, that you make it clear that it is only if one is diseased that one can pass on a disease. Well, yeah, fair enough but I would have thought that was fairly obvious. It's a headline! Give them a break!

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyway it says 'linked to', not 'causes'.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Eventually they will find that everything causes cancer. Just by living you are increasing your chances of a trip to the oncologist pretty alarmingly.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Well maybe everything does, but maybe some things are more likely to cause it than others.

It's ummm.. a continuum.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Why are they quoting a plastic surgeon?

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, never mind.

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling, would you say someone carrying HIV had a "diseased prick"?

― Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:34 (twenty-three years ago)

cancer stick? -sorry

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

no. but then HIV isn't HPV. HPV sticks around in the skin and HIV gets into the bloodstream and the whole system.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

"Wanna buy some death sticks?" Etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a matter of balance, trying to not cause a new problem when solving an existing one.

So guys, you're saying that you find the prospect of never receiving oral sex again to be an unacceptable new problem?

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Also HPV is like the most harmless thing ever for guys so its not the most tasteless thing in the world to say.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

As I said in the other thread, if you find yourself in the position where you're sucking on crotch cancer, you probably shouldn't be too surprised if something oogy gets in your mouth. Hell, sucking on healthy crotches results in something oogy getting in your mouth; it's just that the normal result doesn't make your cheeks fall off.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)

(I think that's the grimmest post I've ever made! YAY!)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 20:59 (twenty-three years ago)

wow! that would be a mouthful! (just trying to make bad worse)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...

Stop it.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 8 December 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

N. was waiting a WHOLE YEAR to make his distaste clear.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess he got mouth cancer?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 8 December 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I was so innocent back then.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Horseshit to thread.

― Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

And so free of gum tumours.

(x-post, argh)

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 8 December 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

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Oral Sex linked to Mouth Cancer - Eek!