Attraction to bullies: C/D

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Are people attracted to bullies just because they're bored - I mean, because the crowd are saying nice supportive things then the bully comes along and says something different? It can't just be that - is it because they need leadership and protection? What is it? I'm thinking of Hitler, I'm thinking of those who insult people on this forum, of any old bully. And is it classic, or is it dud? I mean the attraction, not the bullying.

Crystal (Crystal), Saturday, 14 December 2002 07:16 (twenty-three years ago)

If all the ILX0R bulleez could get laid all the time, they wouldn't be bulleez no mo

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

well, mozt of the time yo

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

people like bullies 'cause THEY UNLEASH THE FUCKING FURY! THEY UNLEASH THE FUCKING FURY!!

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Who's an ILX bully, you pathetic, weak, moaning sack of shit? Yeah, go on cry about the big tuff ILx, you fucking maggot. Ha ha look she's crying!

dave q, Saturday, 14 December 2002 10:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Now where did I put that copy of "My Bodyguard"?

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 14 December 2002 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Grossly oversimplified answers:

Bullies tend to turn the world into aggressors and victims, and most people, alas, tend to want to identify with the aggressor.

The maintenance of human relationships depends on leaving thoughts unsaid and impulses unacted-upon, but this self-restraint is stressful: we take vicarious release (= pleasure) in the bully's transgression, particularly if we lack the [fill in positive quality here] to appreciate the destructive consequences of their actions -- a failure of both compassion and intelligence, as it were.

We are anxious, and feel weak: bullies project strength, and we want to ally ourselves with them so as to feel protected. This dynamic may be informed by having had a bullying figure for a parent.

Phil (phil), Saturday, 14 December 2002 19:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Now where did I put that copy of "My Bodyguard"?

HAHAHAHAHA! I had to watch that twice during my pre-college education and analyze it. James Woods has some classic lines in that movie though, "College is just one big fuck farm!"

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 14 December 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh shit, sorry... James Woods was in the CULT movie I had to watch in my early years in school.. the one with the Brady kids in the Koolaid cult.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 14 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Phil - that's what I thought too. I was thinking about how easily you can be attracted to Hitler or Lenin, Jesus or the Devil - it reallly seems like love can go either way - it's like a toss of the coin. I wanted to ask about this because I'm attracted to bullies and want to find the magic word that releases me, but I also notice that I despise effective bullies, who succeed in wounding/alienating/shutting people up, and love ineffective bullies, who've been rejected for their lack of social skills, rendering their bullying more an amusement than an actual triumph.

Crystal (Crystal), Saturday, 14 December 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps it is the 'misunderstood bully' you are attracted to, crystal. you know, the one that comes across as a strong person who speaks their mind and gets outcast for it. i also seem to turn to those types, beginning with the 'angry young man' kind when i was younger, and now the 'grumpy forthright bastard'.
not the really nasty ones who set out to do harm, but the ones who seem to have an 'inner scream' for understanding, and people like me ( suckers ) think we can help, and act as a buffer for them against the cruel world that doesnt get what they really are.
sadly though, many of these types of people are actually just arseholes.

donna (donna), Saturday, 14 December 2002 20:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I really want to know who you think the ILX bullies are.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 14 December 2002 21:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i think they're you & ned wearing scary masks.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 14 December 2002 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

RUMBLED

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 14 December 2002 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.morbid.demon.co.uk/scream.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 December 2002 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

The bullies on this forum are Hitler and the devil

Crystal (Crystal), Sunday, 15 December 2002 03:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Cause they're really mean to Jesus and Lenin.

Crystal (Crystal), Sunday, 15 December 2002 04:00 (twenty-three years ago)

B-b-b-but Jesus keeps saying mean things about the devil!

, Sunday, 15 December 2002 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

(In all seriousness, how do you differentiate between a "bully" and your average charismatic good-guy spiderman type?)

, Sunday, 15 December 2002 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

The one in blue and red is the good guy.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 15 December 2002 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I know, because Jesus even whipped people! The moneylenders, that is. And he was often quite angry with the disciples. He told that joke about the tax gatherer, though.

Yes because there are no bullies, only 'bullying acts'. Hitler was a vegetarian, etc etc.

I had a horrible nightmare last night where I was in love with a bully. This bully, who quite closely resembled someone from the forum (no-one I've met in real life though), we were lying on top of the bed together, and he was talking about his current girlfriend, who was in the other room. "Oh, she's a dumm bitch, don't worry about her." It was true that she was kind of stupid, and he was just using her - she was a poor girl, kind of mute with suffering type. But then he started relating a big story about the other girl he was seeing, a female journalist who got treated like shit because she was female, and how she uncovered all this important news but never got paid much because why should she? There was no way she could get a better job. He was relating this as an amusing narrative. This journalist was sent undercover as a prostitute and, not because she needed the money, but just because she didn't really care, she actually started turning tricks. And that was how he met her, when he picked her up on the street when she was working. So he had these two girlfriends, but he was saying to me in a sneering kind of way, 'But don't worry baby, I'm dumping both of them for you. I don't need them, now that I've got you.' The worst part is that I was really, really drawn to him, like he was my 'true love'.

Crystal (Crystal), Sunday, 15 December 2002 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, Crystal, this sounds more like a fantasy than an attraction. I think we all have fantasies/dreams about indulging ourselves in things that we find repulsive when awake. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 15 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, Crystal, this sounds more like a fantasy than an attraction. I think we all have fantasies/dreams about indulging ourselves in things that we find reprehensible when awake. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 15 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)


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