an ILX zine or micropublished book?

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I'm crappy at organizing things, but after seeing that "Your art" thread and of course all the great writing that's routinely knocking around here, does anyone else see a massive opportunity for a beautiful ILX book or pamphlet or something?

Might work best if we focused it around a theme. Then again maybe not.

What do you all think? And if people are into it, any ideas for how to deal with the logistics?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:16 (twenty-three years ago)

"oh no! FITE! oh no!" is always a serviceable theme, I find

― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Can it be a microdot book?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I vote for pamphlet.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

but seriously though

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I vote it should be the size of a coaster so we can put beer on it!

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

but seriously now

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

OK.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I got ignored when I said an ILX TV show should get produced... at least you're getting a reaction!

― Aaron W, Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I got ignored when I said an ILX TV show should get produced... at least you're getting a reaction!

― Aaron W, Thursday, 19 December 2002 16:57 (twenty-three years ago)

This interweb partisan sez:

Zines/books started by ILXers = classicest thing of all.

Zines/books made up of compilations of ILX stuff = pointless IMO.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

so anyway back to the book, da capo owes us one but fuck em they don't deserve our book. or maybe matos could get jonathan lethem to get mcsweeney's to publish it.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm thinking the former - a collection of essays/stories/art/etc. by ILXors, tom.

by the latter you mean a "best of posts on ILX", right? that's pointless for sure.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

It would be a book full of glossy pictures of kitchens, the last page of which would read "... and then they all lez up."

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

so nobody really thinks this would work then?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Despite my stupid double post above, I say any creative endeavor is worth a shot.

― Aaron W, Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always liked this idea, Fritz, but it would ruin us!

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:35 (twenty-three years ago)

how so?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, OK you guys...here it is...

...I got one for ya...

...wait for it...

...ILX THE MOVIE!

It's kind of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles meets Smiles Of A Summer Night...with styrofoam masks! THE MUSICAL!

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, if you're talking about building something for purposes of mass consumption, I dunno. I mean, I am the only one who's thrilled that Da Capo got our URL wrong?

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

but "mass consumed ideas/art have value too" is ilx's mantra

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Never said I didn't think it'd lack value, I'd just worry (selfishly, granted) for the state of ilxor if we were suddenly 'out there'.

Much like how I'd worry if, say, Q Magazine ever recommended ILM to its readership.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 19 December 2002 18:48 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah but a Q mention or something like it is so imminent i think it would be good to document ilx ourselves before that happens

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:25 (twenty-three years ago)

What if we did a book and it got reviewed in Q! Double whammy!

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

My contribution will be on microfiche.

― Graham (graham), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I will write my contribution in Wordstar for Amiga

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

...and, turns out, I am the knob.

― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

AND JESS: YOUR ZINE - IS IT ON OR OFF?

― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 19 December 2002 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure it would work... a lot of what makes ILX G*R*A*T*E is that it is chat based, which you would lose once it became a selection of essays written by people working on their own.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah i think you're right. it couldn't be "ILX In Print", it would have to be it's own entity.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't see any need or use for an ILX mag; but if I were putting together a magazine again, and depending on subject, I am damn sure that a bunch of the first people I'd ask to contribute are here.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Why not make it a series of Socratic dialogs or something.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I have previously thought of setting up business as The ILXpress, to publish ILX-related works. And if you don't mind a comparatively simple product, it would be very easy for me or anyone else who knows desktop publishing to put together a book(let) of "The Best of ILE" or the like. I agree that the individual essays or threads would lose their context outside of the whole, but if you want ILX to have some sort of paper presence, I'd be willing to work on that.

― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the thing Fritz is getting at is Freaky Trigger the magazine but with a wider remit (ie not just music) and written by more people.

― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Which would be AMAZING. FT in PRINT!!!

― dwh (dwh), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

who will contribute to my book about PIRATES?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Pontius pirate?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 21:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I want this, because I feel that ILx is something very special that needs to be preserved somehow. Am I just being sentimental?

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 19 December 2002 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Not nessisarly preserved threads--they're already being preserved--but something tangible to prove that we were here.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 19 December 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure that this preserves ILX. What does preserve it is our continuing to post here.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 19 December 2002 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I have always vaguely thought of ILX as a TAZ (for all that I am the least ontologically anarchic person going) - preservation is kind of beside the point. I missed the old music press and the old alt.music.alternative (or my conceptions of same) - so I started Freaky Trigger and ILM respectively. Someone in 5 years will miss those and start something else, I hope. Permanent things can emerge (great pieces; couples; writing careers; feuds; slang; criminal records) but making the thing itself permanent...I'm not sure.

On the other hand I still want to write/compile a book of my stuff sometime so I'm not going to try and stop anyone else. If you like print, start a print zine, say I.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 20 December 2002 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I concur. I don't think a paper replica of ilx is feasible. but I do want to round up some of our talent (and I'm going to approach a whole slew of non-ilxers too) for the pirate book.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 20 December 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't mean a paper replica. I was thinking about some kind of memento, something tangible that proves that we were here. (Then again, you might say that the ILx comp is that.) I don't think I'm making much sense here or getting close to what I'm trying to say.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I don't think I like the way my brain is working right now.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:36 (twenty-three years ago)

This is depressing talk that makes me think too heavily about the unbearable impermanence of things. I'd like to think this bitch will be around long enough that I can contribute to the next ILX comp- or at until I get out of the Air Force and can meet some of you crazy bastards.

― Tom Millar (Millar), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Fritz - it's funny you mention this now. I was thinking just the other day that the attendees of the last Toronto FAP alone could do something like this.

― Kim (Kim), Friday, 20 December 2002 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I pass out the pamphlets at the airport?

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 December 2002 04:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'least ontologically anarchic person going'

!!!

― Josh (Josh), Friday, 20 December 2002 05:01 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.spacejam.com/cmp/lineup/img/c-taz.jpg

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 20 December 2002 07:46 (twenty-three years ago)

hey you know so new media was tailor-made for endeavors like this, if you are interested in having an outside concern work on the production (and even the press!).

i think it could be really really good especially if it's based on PIRATES!

― maura (maura), Friday, 20 December 2002 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Despite the Nipper's picture, I have no idea what Mr Ewing means by a TAZ.

I think someone should start a printed fanzine called eg. 'paper clips'.

― the pinefox, Friday, 20 December 2002 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom meant that he thought of ILX as a Tasmanian Devil, a semi-mythical Australian beast that is now extinct. Surely the metaphor is obvious?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

"semi-mythical" = I didn't realise there was really such an animal for ages. I thought it was made up.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

it will be now that you know it really exists.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:24 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.australien-explorer.de/Tasmanian%20Devil.x.jpg

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)

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