So, in a world where companies buy product time in the movies, is it big and clever to let the companies buy screen-wide ads in a movie about the evils of advertising?
Does it make any sense to satirise the omnipotence of MTV and then sell a soundtrack full of the pop-punk that MTV has begat?
Is there a future in subversion, making a movie that tells you not to buy what you're being sold, apart from itself? Or is confrontation the only way to combat what's wrong with the world. And anyway, what's wrong with the world?
Is this movie a lens through which we can see all the important issues in modern society, or just a piece of harmless/gormless fluff tossed off by the Bad Movie Machine?
Andrew
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jel, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Classic: The Soundtrack album is amazing. It's not punk. It's pure, pure power-pop. All punk is powerchords; Not all powerchords are punk.
Classic: The fact that Kay Hanley sings vocals is the worst kept secret in movie history.
Dud: Underdevloped love story. I always assumed You Don't See Me was gonna be used only about Josie and Alan M... It would have been better if it was.
Dud: The Evian ad in the aquarium scene. Nuff said.
Classic: Rachael Leigh Cook and her huge, dark, bottomless eyes. Talk about jerkin'...
― JM, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Oh, I loved the movie, incidentally. Classic. The soundtrack is really good, and that whole "If You're Happy And You Know It" shower scene was worth the price of admission.
― Ally, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Wow, Classic, I'm still giggling like a schoolgirl over Parking-lot of-a-Metallica-gig, even though it's nowhere near the funniest joke in the film. And cool self referentialisms "because I was in the comic". I'm glad they used proper brands instead of Blue Peterising everything.
― Graham, Wednesday, 29 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Wednesday, 29 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
As for the movie, giving myself over to Hollywood has never been so much fun and so easy. I guess that's what's so eerily brilliant about Josie: it's so many things at once, I'd reckon that Naomi Klein and Richard Branson could both proclaim it as a new cultural landmark.
― Nick B., Sunday, 2 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Absolute classic. The meta practical joke on the companies involved just makes it funnier. And the Blade Runner-like logopolis of New York will stick in the head for a while. Plus, you know, it's funny. And occasionally nasty-funny ("Christina Aguilera, TLC, Hole").
Graham: I wouldn't say begat in polite society or anything, but I still know how to mock up a discussion question. Discussion answers are harder. And back atcha: "Let's get 'em boys... DuJour Style!"
I only the other day figured out that a translation of the film into English would have "wankin'" as the new word for cool. "Let's get that new Gorrillaz album, I hear it's really wankin'!" and so on.
And the Seth Green outtake at the end is great because it's nothing like the rest of the film.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 5 August 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 5 August 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 5 August 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 5 August 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)
― carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
― Masonic Boom (kate), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)
The Doctor Who scene is the best thing in it, although Fiona's party entrance is brilliant as well. And the "let's be girls" scene at the party.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
The comic was also extremely classic, especially when they got sent to play at an OLD FOLKS COMMUNITY on the north pole, and the old people partied WAY HARDER than they did.
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
The film's creators, I forget their names (they also did some "real" teen movie -- Can't Hardly Wait, maybe), have said in interviews that they got no money for the ads and logos.
& speaking of rlc does ne1 kno if she really did the music parts, i mean, not the singing or the playing, but how she pretended to play the guitar, it looked really convincing!
Some SoCal band was brought in to teach the three leads how to play their instruments, so yeah they were actually playing the songs, though obv what we hear are the polished versions recorded by real musicians.
― W i l l (common_person), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)
― carly (carly), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
"Backdoor lover," "smells like teen spirit," "puppies die," etc. It is an undeniable classic.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 5 August 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)
Alexander - You know what? I still don't understand why you're here.Alexandra - I'm here because I was in the comic book.Alexander - What?Alexandra - Nothing.
― luna (luna.c), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― richardk (Richard K), Friday, 5 August 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 6 August 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)
― The Yellow Kid, Saturday, 6 August 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)
(i mean i can see yr. argument or a possible one but i don't buy it)
― Secundus Covarient (s_clover), Saturday, 6 August 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 6 August 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
There's a bit near the end when they're standing behind the subliminal message machine in the recording studio, which has round discs on the back wall, and Fiona's harlequin-costumed guards burst in. It's shot-for-shot from a Peter Davison era story (although I can't remember which one, but it's from Adric/Nyssa/Tegan time).
this movie would have been better if it were more like the comic, but it was still great!
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 6 August 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
I have it on good ol' VHS if you'd like a loan, Kate.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 6 August 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Saturday, 6 August 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 6 August 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 6 August 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)
yeah too right - what a complete cunt he is.
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 7 August 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)
i find it strange and funny that the libertarian neoliberal free market types' intersection with red state values cld have so reversed the situation.
― Secundus Covarient (s_clover), Monday, 8 August 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."Dwight D. Eisenhower - Republican
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
I think I saw on the credits that Juliana Hatfield wrote the "Josie and the Pussycats" song, and Google confirms this - YAY!
Parker Posy's character makes good use of Parker Posy's quintessential Parker Posy-ness - that lurching, crazed glamour.
― rainy (rainy), Monday, 8 August 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)
Searched out this thread, as Alice saw it in our local Oxfam for £1 and as it seemed, well, made for her personally, how could I say no? Besides, she paid for it thanks to the tooth fairy.
Any road, Classic for the shower scene (first one involving nubile young girl that avoids any kind of sex reference/nuance?), Alice still doing the 'If you're happy and you know it clap your hands (clap oops stoop)' joke. Less classic for "White Assed Willy. Because he's white. And he has a white ass. And ..." "OK, Alice, you can't say that at the age of 6 ok?" "OK"
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 June 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)
Bought the soundtrack yesterday afternoon, pretty much for Backdoor Lover. I want a Dujour prequel.
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:55 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:21 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:35 (twenty years ago)
― Dan (Hilarious) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:36 (twenty years ago)
"I'm in the comic"
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)
^^^^ this
― a wicked 60s beat poop combo (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)
A penny? I thought Alice was doing well getting it for a pound!
― Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2009 07:08 (sixteen years ago)
I saw this movie tonight. Wow, it is fantastically weird at trying to satirize mainstream pop culture while trying to BE IT at the same time. I was definitely entertained, but man, bizarre!
Parker Posey is wildly amusing in this, but I already like her a lot. Alan Cummings and Missy Pyle also pretty funny.
"I don't know why he's trying the first name last initial thing, it didn't work for Sheila E!"
― Nhex, Sunday, 11 October 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)
"three small words" is a fukken jam but that boyband song on the sdtrk is 4EVA
cant remember exactly now but iirc josie was into sum homo with an acoustic guitar - never sympathized more with the man in my lyfe when his representatives shut him out
― ^ poll it (Lamp), Sunday, 11 October 2009 06:52 (sixteen years ago)
love this movie to death.
― no bubo, no credibility (stevie), Sunday, 11 October 2009 12:22 (sixteen years ago)
This movie is so, so wonderful
― Psyduck is My Spirit Animal (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 24 June 2011 05:32 (fourteen years ago)
agreed
― kinder, Friday, 24 June 2011 06:10 (fourteen years ago)
i agree so, so much xp
aside from the obvious possibly the best tara reid performance ever by virtue of being an enjoyable tara reid performance
― cause i'm close to the edge of glory i'm trying not to lose my hair (zachlyon), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:11 (fourteen years ago)
the part where alan cumming closes his phone, mutes the bland blonde guy's guitar, re-opens his phone, and resumes his conversation
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:21 (fourteen years ago)
TAKE THE CHEVY TO THE LEVEE
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:22 (fourteen years ago)
I'VE GOTTA BUY A SIX-PACK OF ZIMA
dude, you don't drink
I THINK I SHOULD START
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:32 (fourteen years ago)
and you want to know something else? puppies... turn into dogs... who get old... AND DIE.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:33 (fourteen years ago)
it's more like total request dead
― cause i'm close to the edge of glory i'm trying not to lose my hair (zachlyon), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:39 (fourteen years ago)
sure, these kids have brains like play-doh, just WAITING to be MOLDED into shape... but something else must be going on, right? the chinese guy knows what i'm talking about.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:43 (fourteen years ago)
du jour means friendship!
― cause i'm close to the edge of glory i'm trying not to lose my hair (zachlyon), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:44 (fourteen years ago)
oh my god! that's MR. MOVIEFONE! how did you get him to put that on there?! ahh! you slept with him!
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 24 June 2011 06:52 (fourteen years ago)
so yeah, classic
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, June 24, 2011 6:32 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
powerlol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 June 2011 07:00 (fourteen years ago)
<3 this movie btw duh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4WYj4VZBXU
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)
i've never felt more disappointed in a writer than when roger ebert objected to the product placement in this movie
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
the door to the cabin of the plane that just slides away the center of a giant target logo
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:46 (thirteen years ago)
the america online hotel where Evil Josie gets a manicure from a silent nordic girl in an america online jumpsuit
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:47 (thirteen years ago)
last 15 minutes is power boring. i dunno where to take the better parts of the tone of this movie tho! i feel like at least two of them would have to die.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:50 (thirteen years ago)
http://a.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/33511/tara-shower_jpg_300x1000_q85.jpg
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)
-- does anyone else think this is a little off?
-- like what?
-- well like that wyatt guy, for one.
-- yeah, like how he ordered a triple cappuccino and scooped off all the foam? why not just get an espresso? plus how he kept folding his napkin like he's afraid he doesn't have any real friends. just people who want to use him because he's a big music guy.
-- yeah. but i was talking more about the whole record contract thing.
-- it is super sudden.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:49 (eleven years ago)
Ah, nostalgia.
Also, this is one of those movies (R&R HighSchool being the other) that made Alice the Rock Chick she still is.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:01 (eleven years ago)
i wore out my vhs copy of this movie
― adam, Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:04 (eleven years ago)
Controversy ensued when this movie made a high position in ILX's poll/ballot of "Best Comedy Movie"
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:07 (eleven years ago)
is this movie cyberpunk
― adam, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 03:09 (six years ago)
It wasn't even that high, just #84!
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 09:04 (six years ago)
And yet ..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 12:17 (six years ago)
20 years old today.
Nice cast reunion piece here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G08jwulB724
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:20 (five years ago)
Weird, I was just reading thishttps://film.avclub.com/on-the-josie-and-the-pussycats-soundtrack-reality-and-1798254285Thanks for the link!
― kinder, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:28 (five years ago)
― cause i'm close to the edge of glory i'm trying not to lose my hair (zachlyon), Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:39 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:30 (five years ago)
thx for that Dan
― Nhex, Monday, 12 April 2021 00:32 (five years ago)
I wrote about the soundtrack a couple of weeks ago for Stereogum.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 April 2021 00:51 (five years ago)
Great article! I listened to the best few tracks of the soundtrack loads at the time, but don't remember the others.
― kinder, Monday, 12 April 2021 08:31 (five years ago)
Weird that made me aware of - the original '70s songs aren't available anywhere anymore
― Nhex, Monday, 12 April 2021 13:15 (five years ago)
...Paradise By The Dashboard Light and Love Will Keep Us Together are both widely available on their parent albums and on multiple greatest hits each, not to mention Bat Out Of Hell having already sold enough copies for every man, woman and child in Australia to have one for regular play and one to display. They were never included on the Josie soundtrack CD, though.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:55 (five years ago)
I assume Nhex meant the songs from the '70s show, not songs from the '70s in the movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 April 2021 18:59 (five years ago)
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71XoZNMw9UL._SX522_.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 April 2021 19:00 (five years ago)
Or thishttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51EikZt58oL.jpg
Oh. Looks like they were completely unavailable from 1971 to 1998 (your first pic), a few came out for the first time in 2001 (your second), and then they've simply returned to their status quo of being unavailable for decades in a row.
(except for a 300 copy private press bootleg 7" of the theme song in Italy in 2015)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:12 (five years ago)
That Rhino Handmade comp seems like one of their few sellouts that didn't eventually pop up elsewhere (via Rhino UK, Wounded Bird, or somebody else).
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 April 2021 20:03 (five years ago)
yup, i was talking about the albums Josh put up. sic, you gotsta chill
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 02:37 (five years ago)
they were available for three years total out of the last fifty-two, most recently two decades ago - that's a very heavy lift for "anymore" :)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 03:14 (five years ago)
ok, buddy!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 03:25 (five years ago)
Took me long enough to see this and even then it took a Charli xcx review to finally watch it. What a great movie!
“JOSIE AND THE PUSSYCATS IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER
JOIN THE ARMY”
Double-billing this with They Live next time
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 18 January 2026 13:03 (four months ago)
i love it! "we managed to land the plane just fine; unfortunately it was in the parking lot of a Metallica show"
― kinder, Sunday, 18 January 2026 20:58 (four months ago)