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What does everyone think of prescription anti depressants.

― anthony, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You take them, you become dull and listless. You don't you stay depressed which can be dull and listless also.

― Ronan, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Legalized and subsidized mind fucks, you might as well take real drugs and be done with it, in my experience.

― Ally, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wow, I wanted to post a thread on this ("Better living through chemistry"). If you have a chemical imbalance which causes you to be depressed, I am all for it. But I don't so I'd rather have therapy and talk my problems out. I do hate it when people say "Oooh I am manic depressive." when they are just feeling a bit down. It trivializes manic-depression.

― nathalie, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One is good, two is better, etc. etc.

― dave q, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I agree with the idea that the issue trivializes really hardcore mental disorders. I mean, we're in a day and age - in the US at least, not as prevalent in Europe - where any slightly unruly kid is deemed as having A.D.D. It's not right, whatever happened to people just dealing with shit?

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Creation of 'ADD' = symptom of 'feminization' of society, 'aggressive' non-caring-sharing behaviour eradicated at the source with chemical cosh

― dave q, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dave, you're thinking of Fight Club. ;-)

― nathalie, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think they are the result of a conspiracy! The FDA got us off foods rich in essential fatty acids and onto high carb foods. Essential fatty acids support healthy cell structure and saratonin levels in the brain. Rice cakes, rice, baked potatoes, salads, beans, etc. don't have what our body needs to remain healthy. Therefore, while we are supposedly eating "healthier" since early 80s, we have more heart disease, cancer, brain disorders, nervous conditions and depression. This allows for a few things:

Selling of easy-to-produce, cheap and useless "food"
Selling of medicine to cure what ails ya.

All you have to do to become healthier and happier is to eat 1 protein, 1 essential fatty acid and 1 low-glycerine carbohydrate with every meal, drink plenty of water and, if possible, supplement your diet with Vit C, E, C Esther and DMAe (found in Salmon) and alphalypoic acid, all of which encourage healthy cell structure and growth.

High-glycerine carbs cause inflammation in cellular structures, which causes the damage that leads to cancer, heart disease and mental illness. Low glycerine carbs include all brightly colored fresh fruit and vegetables.

Essential fatty acids are found in pure virgin olive oil, almonds, macedamia nuts and salmon, for example, which also contains DMAe, but all fish have essential fatty acids. We all know what protein is, so I won't bother.

― Nude Spock, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If you have a piece of fruit by itself, it spikes your insulin level, raises your saratonin level, causes inflammation in cellular structure and afterwards, your saratonin levels crash. Despite the fact it may be a low-glycerine carb, you need to balance it with 1 protein and 1 essential fatty acid. Basically, nobody eats the way they should and no restaurants really encourage this sort of eating, unless you know plenty of places that will serve up, say, broiled salmon, green salad with virgin olive oil and lemon juice and melon for desert. No rice, no potato, etc. all as one meal so you don't have to buy side dishes that add up to $20+ for one meal.

― Nude Spock, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Found they worked in combination with therapy, on their own probably wouldn't be as much point. Erm, Ronan: You 1) Don't become dull and listless, you gain a larger amount of control over your own mind which is a good fucking thing and 2) are much less likely to commit suicide or at least think that way or whatever (in my case I know did). Don't trivialize it.

― Bill, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What works for you in your case doesn't work for everyone in their cases. Don't trivialize anyone else's experience with it.

I took quite a lot of Buspars in a row Friday night. I ended up stumbling around goofily, basically acting like I was on a lot of E. So my point still remains the same in my mind: why not just legalize fucking E then? Why are certain forms of narcotics acceptable and others aren't? Ritalin is a low-level form of speed - why not just give kids speed? Why is one good and the other bad?

I'm not saying there aren't people who need stabilizing drugs, but it's not nearly the amount of people who take them, and they're extrodinarily easy to abuse.

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Any friends I had who started taking antidepressants became instantly intolerable and instantly addicted. That whole industry is really shady.

― Kris, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmmm...I took Seroxat, and it was always a really gradual process - say two weeks - before there was any effect at all. Only horrible side effects were when I came off - dizzy spells that lasted for a week. Admittedly, I've heard horrible stories about that A-D and about others...

Ally-isn't it a case that they're not legalised because that'd be going too far i.e. too much of a good thing would be bad. Though, yeah, I read somewhere that E is really good for people with parkinson's or something?

― Bill, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dunno, my flatmates practically FORCED them on me. They were even offering to forge prescriptions so long as I just took the damn things.

― dave q, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seroxat is rubbish, and I'm not elaborating on how I know that.

― DG, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DG - Well, it worked for me, (erm, twice actually) so there! Though many a tale has been told of its rubbishness, admittedly.

― Bill, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My experience: they cut out the lows but they cut out the highs. I got through a rough year but it sapped my creativity and my willpower (never high let's face it). The problem or condition or whatever it is is still there, but my conclusion is that it's not bad enough to be life-threatening and I'd prefer not to take anti-d's again to deal with it. Fingers crossed I know enough about myself and what works for me now to avoid periods of sustained depression.

― Tom, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is strange because I think my willpower got higher as a result having depression - I wanted to do better. Also, I think the therapy may have altered the way I thought which helped in this respect as well.

― Bill, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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― Alex, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fingers crossed, have never really suffered from 'clinical' depression, as opposed to the usual highs and lows of life, but a dealer once gave me a couple of his valium as 'chasers'. They had a super-powerful mong-out effect - total detachment similar to opium bliss - and were easily as powerful as any 'illegal' drug I've sampled. Kids - just say no to prescription drugs!

― Andrew L, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, but you're meant to gradually build up the dosage from about 5- 10 mg a day to much higher amounts, so this would explain the super- mong-out-orama possibly.

― Bill, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

eight years pass...

by law are you allowed to take legal drugs like this into clubs?

― NI, Saturday, 14 November 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

U.S.: 4-Methylmethcathinone is unscheduled in the United States. It is possible that it could be considered an analog of a scheduled substance, in which case, sales for human consumption or possession with the intent to ingest could be prosecuted under the Federal Analog Act.

― my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Sunday, 15 November 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

YES!

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― Whay!ney G. Welldamnen (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Sunday, 15 November 2009 00:08 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

So has anyone tried 'new £15 high driving dozens mad' ivory wave?

― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Sunday, 23 January 2011 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

high strength codeine is wonderful.

― toastmodernist, Sunday, 23 January 2011 05:08 (fifteen years ago)

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