Roll Call: Non Netscape/AOL/Internet Explorer browser users

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Tell me a little about your web browser.

I use w3m which is the vi of web browsers (unless you count tha awful vi clone with browsing ability). lynx is the pico of web browsers.

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 7 February 2003 19:55 (twenty-three years ago)

at work, i use IE6, unfortunately.

but while at home, i had been using Opera 6 up till last week, when Opera 7 came out. so far, i can't say that loads has changed in the upgrade---although at least it's not truthfully a downgrade, unlike so many things that get "updated."

things do seem to go a bit faster, but this might also be because i boosted my memory from 64MB up to 192 last week as well, so i really can't say. :)

i like Opera, though---works great, and i'm only on a piffy 56K dialup connection at home!

― janni (janni), Friday, 7 February 2003 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Opera here. Some older version. Has lots of nice ease-of-use features which makes it very superior to IE.

― fletrejet, Friday, 7 February 2003 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

IE6, I don't know much about web browsers. Netscape was grody the few times I used it.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 7 February 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm using Opera 6. It's very good. A cool feature = you can set cookie mode to "accept cookie, but delete it when you close Opera down".

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 February 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Right now I use IE5 but I want to get into using Safari if I get OSX.

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 February 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Safari for everything but ILE. Omniweb for ILE. As soon as ILE works with omniweb I'll be using Safari exclusively. Its one disadvantage is that it has no auto-complete for forms, otherwise it is as fast as they come, none of the useless bells and whistles or bloated-ness of other browsers. It blocks popups as well which is good.

Its based round the kde-khtml library so if you can get open source stuff for your system you can get konquerer which is based round the same engine, although a stable version incorporating the apple tweaks hasn't appeared yet.

iCab was good when I had a modem. I could cache the text only version of the guardian and read it offline when I was living in italy. It didn't carbonise quick enough to keep pace with me though.

I have IE, Mozilla, Chimera, Netscape and Opera lurking around for when i do web development.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Mozilla for me, but that is mainly Netscape I guess.

Tabs are Gr8 tho.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 February 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

the opera chronicles

― ron (ron), Friday, 7 February 2003 23:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I use Phoenix, a Mozilla derivative, and I freaking love it.

Two words: tabbed browsing. And it's fast.

― J (Jay), Saturday, 8 February 2003 01:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Opera 5 (Mac)
The google searchbox, image on/off, percentage-resizing, secure connection on/off, etc located in every window are great features. You can turn pop-ups on and off easily too. IE has more bells and whistles, but I never use any of them. In Opera, the cache never seems to empty on its own though, so if it is open for a few days without being restarted, things begin to slow down excessively.

― Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Saturday, 8 February 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Safari is better/worse than Explorer. My parents' site shows up all weirdoh on Safari but on Explorer it's perfect. However Safari loads quicker.

― nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 8 February 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Omniweb. Will be Safari when I get MacOS 10.2, possibly pre-installed on my new PowerBook.

― Graham (graham), Saturday, 8 February 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Safari 80%, Chimera 15%, IE 5.2 5%

Safari is the fastest, and I'd be using it even more if it could import IE bookmarks with any sort of efficiency.

― don weiner, Saturday, 8 February 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)

That's over 100%, Don. Are you a footballer?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 February 2003 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Galeon. It's yet another Mozilla-based one, but the interface is much faster.

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 8 February 2003 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)

80+15+5=100
?

― ron (ron), Saturday, 8 February 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

It says IE 5.25% above. I know 100.25% is slacking by footballing standards, but it is nonetheless more than 100%.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 February 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it says ie5.2 5%

― ron (ron), Saturday, 8 February 2003 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

not that it's important

― ron (ron), Saturday, 8 February 2003 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah right, IE version 5.2, 5%. Gotcha. My apologies.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 February 2003 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

mine too :)

― ron (ron), Saturday, 8 February 2003 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm a mozilla guy. I've been meaning to check out Phoenix and the like, but I've yet to find a decent blurb as to why I should switch from regular mozilla 1.2.1 to phoenix or whatever...

Anybody seen one or can offer up one?

best.

― nick ring (nick ring), Saturday, 8 February 2003 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Safari here too. Chimera for the few cases when Safari can't.

― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Sunday, 9 February 2003 00:36 (twenty-three years ago)

iCab 2.9, Opera 5, and Wannabe. I generally only use IE to look at Flash things (not that the others can't, I just haven't installed Flash for them). Also Mozilla 1.0/1.1 and MacLynx on occasion.

― Phil (phil), Sunday, 9 February 2003 00:45 (twenty-three years ago)

(I use iCab about 90% of the time -- lately, more like 95%, now that a fix has been found for its frequent crashing problem under Mac OS Classic.)

― Phil (phil), Sunday, 9 February 2003 00:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll download Safari at work tomorrow; can't wait to try it out on my new PowerBook!!

― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 9 February 2003 02:06 (twenty-three years ago)

New Version of Safari out today, but it still does not work with ILE.

Graham, I'm going to try and find someone to dub those discs for you or you could download them via mutella or carracho

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:39 (twenty-three years ago)

> New Version of Safari out today, but it still does not work with ILE.

i'm curious about why ILE doesn't work with Safari (isn't safari based on khtml, the kde html component thing? ah yes, thanks ed). the ile source looks well formed and doesn't use anything very exotic.

mozilla here, 1.0.1. the only problem with tabbed browsing is going back to IE for work and pressing the middle button to open a link in a new tab only to get that odd scrolling icon thing appear. much confusion entails.

andy

― koogs, Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I think there is something wrong with the way it handles cookies. It has a way of blocking cookies from advertisers, i.e from sites other than the one you are looking at, but even with this feature off it doesn't work with ILE.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:22 (twenty-three years ago)

found this:

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:59BuwzNcBqoC:www.pmbrowser.info/hublog/+safari+cookies&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

"Fixed the problem Safari was having with the Clipboard cookies: apparently they have to be set using the full specification, including domain and path."

and looking at the ile cookies they are missing the path setting. maybe that's it... i think just '/' will be sufficient.

andy

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Have omniweb solved the huge bloody memory leak that used to be an integral part of it, then? I did like it, but the amount of time it filled swap was incredible. Mind you, that was a few years ago, and it was the NeXT port.

Um, opera at the moment, although I didn't think that would qualify as I heard it is effectively just a front end for IE. Beltin' fer getting rid of popups, though.

― SittingPretty (sittingpretty), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks Andy. I've updated the way it does cookies to include that, but *ONLY* if you log in from the front page. If Ed (or whomever) can test that in Safari and it works, I'll change it everywhere.

― Graham (graham), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and thanks for the offer Ed, but my 12" PB is in the post, or will be soon.

― Graham (graham), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

still not working on my safari

― AlanT, Friday, 14 February 2003 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

It works but only if you look for new answers at http://www.ilxor.com/newanswers.php?board=1 rather than http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newanswers.php?board=1.

It works great thanks, Graham.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:54 (twenty-three years ago)

For some reason the < HR>s are left oriented in Safari rather than centred not that that really matters. I think its just that Safaris is quite strict in the if it doesn't say, its left aligned stakes.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 14 February 2003 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

OH MY GOD I know Safari is in beta and prob doesn't work with lots of pages but when it does damn it's good.

Pages are rendered SO fast compared with IE. I love it! It's best when you have a thread with loads of pictures. Where I had got used to the whole thing being a nightmare until all the pics had loaded, now I can scroll around the page smoothly straight away. It's a wonder!

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

It is a browser. Do calm down...

― Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Less a browser, more a way of life!

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

If you don't have a life, maybe.

― Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Mozilla rep! Tabbed browsing really is the greatest thing to hit browsers since... since the last really great thing.

― slutsky (slutsky), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

been using opera 7 since it came out, currently have 7.03. have been tempted to switch back to 6 cuz it's so buggy, but i really like the mail client and the toolbar setup so i put up with the quirks

― ron (ron), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

my wife loves Safari but I remain sold on Mozilla. New build of Safari does have tabs though so Mozilla users can no longer use that as their sole sticking point.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 23 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm now playing with a copy of safari with tabs and auto-complete. Auto-complete is not finished but it takes info from the address book and other sources. I could even get used to tabs.

it is not very difficult to track down unofficial copies even Macuser has a link in its news item on apple pulling the beta seed due to leaks.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

OK there are still quite a few bugs with the tabbed browsing but it is a private beta.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Mozilla isn't a fucking hack like Safari/KHTML

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:44 (twenty-three years ago)

It works better than mozilla though.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

i use phoenix at work and used to use mainly phoenix at home, although last week i installed the new mozilla 1.3 and i quite like it. people like to talk about how much "leaner" the phoenix browser is, but really ... i've compared memory usage on both linux and windows and the memory usage for phoenix is only marginally less ... like 5% or something.

there is a nifty tweak you can do to phoenix's page rendering that supposedly speeds it up considerably but as i use P4s and quick AMD athlons all day with cable and dsl connections i doubt i'd see much difference anyway. your mileage may very.

create a file called user.js in your profile directory and add the following code and then save it.

user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:50 (twenty-three years ago)

what's phoenix based around?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Phoenix is based around Gecko which is Mozilla's engine.

Oh, and most Gecko broswers seem to be as fast as KHTML browsers and work better. mozilla proper is a beast!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

I just used this neat trick to block ads in safari, it works for mozilla and netscape too.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 14 April 2003 13:56 (twenty-three years ago)

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