Do you read Hot Press magazine?

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If you do read it you'll see I have a letter in there this month. If you don't pick it up off the shelf and open the first page. It's basically slating them for covering crap Irish bands, the best part is the band most of my aggression is levelled at are sure to pay 2 pounds Fifty for Hot Press, just like every other week, and then open the first page and see a picture of themselves with an excerpt from my letter in huge writing "They make me want to smoke crack, why oh why must you plug this utter rubbish". Sorry I'm ranting now, but I bought the mag on the way home last night at 4 in the morning and was reading the letter agreeing with it then I remembered my name.

Ronan, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Its just like Morrissey writing letters to the NME in the seventies...

I used to Flick through Hot Press in HMV every now and then way back when. I thought it was crap, they were always plugging crap Irish bands and I thought the cover prices was extortionate. Ronan - you are the voice of disaffected youth and we salute you.

Pete, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I was in an APA with lots of Irish people there was always a massive contempt and hatred for Hot Press and it's good to know this tradition continues. Who were the band?

Actually there's a good general thread in here too. Hold on a minute.

Tom, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

is that beef?

Mike Hanle y, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aw....thanks, you're the voice of disinfected something too............

Ronan, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But there is still the question! Who was the band you duly attacked?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Revs. A bunch of talentless no hopers from some god forsaken backwater in Ireland. Think Blink 182 without even their level of lyrical or musical ability. They're fucking terrible basically. And theres a picture of them right beside the letter, its sort of the feature one. God I wish I could see their faces when they read it

Ronan, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For those wanting to *POINT AND LARF* at said band:

http://www.therevs.com/ revs/home/

I sense a battle of wills along the lines of Tom's low-key war against the Tom Ewings.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

pooor micks

Mike Hanle y, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can think of eight better reasons to smoke crack than because a band are shit.

Greg, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Quote Greg yesterday "I'm on Ronans side". All I have to say is Et tu Brute.

Ronan, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm back on my side.

Greg, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As an Irish person who is still in the APA Tom was in I hate Hot Press. Its design & layout seems to have improved somewhat lately, but what they cover is still irredeemably shite. Even a letter from Ronan isn't going to make me buy it. You know the way people whine about the NME? Well check out Hot Press and see how bad music papers can really go.

That said, Hot Press did have one amusing joke in its 20 year history. On a page headed "The Border Fascist", which basically was a piss-take of Irish provincial papers, they ran an ad for "Soap - they use it in Dublin".

DV, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bring me the heads of Olaf Tyransen and George Byrne. So i can kick them against the wall in my backyard.

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I owe Ronan somewhat of an apology. At the weekend Pete and I were sitting round saying well look, this is all very well but just putting oh this band makes me want to smoke crack is hardly the most original letters page putdown is it. However I looked inside Hot Press for the first time to see if Ronan's letter was in it (it wasnt) and the standard of the letters page is so atrocious that Ronan's missive should have the impact of an A-Bomb.

While we're on ILE regulars and their press ways I refuse to buy The Wire again just because there's a big Sinker article in it - can you summarise Mark? I know this is cheeky but there's Bjork on the cover for heaven's sake.

Tom, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

bangs rox attali sux

mark s, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Its the Hot Press with Garbage on the cover, fuck it I'm at home now and the letter is in my comp at work so I'll paste it here tomorrow. It's not just about dissing the band to be honest, its more about them lowering the bar by covering crap Irish bands and then claiming to be doing some great public service

Ronan, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Right now I'm really blowing my own trumpet. Sorry.

Dear Sir,

I wrote a letter a few months back to your magazine about Ash, you may remember that my use of the phrase "that dork with the mohawk" was liberal. As I recall, part of the point I was making is that your magazine flagrantly and shamelessly plugs anything Irish no matter how god awful it is. In hindsight, I was unfair to Ash (No I'm not going to do a U-turn here, theres a sarcastic remark on the way) I was unfair to them because as shit as they are, they have nothing on the likes of the Revs. Far from instilling any pride in the Irish music scene in me, The Revs make me want to smoke crack. Why, oh god why, must you plug this utter rubbish? What is the purpose of plugging something so dreadful? Are you guys determined to lower the bar where Irish bands are concerned?

I feel fairly certain if The Revs were English you'd have a hot place in hell reserved for them, but since they're Irish, then you might aswell treat them like a reunited Stone Roses. Is it too much to ask for you to be mildly impartial? I despise many of the English bands you feature but at least I know they're being featured on merit and not based on their nationality. The Revs single is truly dreadful, the Irish music scene you strive to promote can do without these sort of morons getting any attention or coverage. We're going to really see how dreadful they are when they disappear into oblivion shortly despite the coverage they've got. I mean for fuck sake, if they can get their names in print then its worse than I thought, anyone can play guitar indeed, but if their talentless fools they'll always be a nothing as far as I'm concerned. I want to hear your views on this issue, because frankly I dont see how you can with a straight face claim the Revs are even on a par with the many English bands you slate regularly.(None of whom I like either)

In your (commendable) efforts to promote Irish, you've let quality control fly out the window, deliberately or otherwise.. I'm not asking for much, I'm not being anti Irish, I just want a MUSIC magazine to give bands coverage based on musical ability and musical ability alone.

Yours Etc

Ronan Fitzgerald

Ronan, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did they reply "You are no true son of Erin, fuck off back to your soup"?

DV, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No they replied "The Revs make me want to smoke crack"-They'll probably put that on the album sleeve"

Ronan, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Revs sing "I met my love in a looney bin/She's wired to the fucking moon" right? Yeah I know, those guys should be tarred and feathered. But shouldn't Hot Press be covering Irish bands no matter how shite they are. I mean theres fuck all Irish bands around but it is their job to give them coverage. I hate JJ72 just as much but they are "one of the new rising Irish bands at the moment"...

Michael Bourke, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think bands like JJ72 would be rising if it wasn't for Hot Press and NME fawning over them. I don't think bands liken the Revs ever should be given coverage. Like I said above, I think covering these sort of bands lowers the bar greatly for the whole Irish music scene, I mean if this is accepted as newsworthy, then where the fuck are we. Every time I hear a single like the Revs one I think "Ok, I know pop music is dead popular now, but they've pushed the guitars=credibility thing too far here, and every time I'm wrong, and the singles are getting worse all the time. The other really sad thing is that Hot Press don't seem to realise the influence they have, I mean if they say something is good, countless people (my age anyway) go out and buy it and think they've bought something worth having, whereas if they plugged stuff that made people think a bit more or had any substance to it then they might introduce it to new people. I just get the feeling they're chasing the scene rather than trying to dictate it, and with manufactured pop becoming so popular the markers have changed, but the magazines don't seem to know or care about this. What once would have passed as shite AOR is now treated like mildly underground indie, and what once was mildly underground indie has been pushed out further, and then obscure stuff becomes more obscure etc. Everythings taken a bashing, but the press don't seem to give a shit, or possibly can't afford to give a shit.

Ronan, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four months pass...
what sort of bands are ye dickheads into? Or are ye all just britney spears fans? I bet ye love popstars aswell fuckin losers

don't know how I got here, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes to all the above. Except the dickheads and losers part.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
Lads, why the tizzy over a bunch of tossers called 'The Revs'? There will always be bands that make sucking shite out of a putrid carcasses shit pipe seem like a better idea than tuning into their idea of music. I agree with your assessment of Hot Press. Their jingoistic drivel is weak.

Barry Hanley, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mike's brother?

electric sound of jim, Monday, 15 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
The design and layout of Hot Press seem to have improved a lot over the last while. I've been thinking of buying an issue, in the interests of science.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a great mag now.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

a new monthly music magazine launched in Ireland today

state magazine
http://www.state.ie/blog/state-magazine-issue-one-out-now/

djmartian, Thursday, 6 March 2008 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I will buy this on my way home today, in full expectation that it will be SHITE.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 7 March 2008 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I looked at it in a shop. It looked pretty good, insofar as you wouldn't really realise it was an Irish music magazine. I wonder is it as full of typos as Foogy Notions? But I have not bought it yet because the content looked a bit dull, kind of like with all mainstream music magazines these days.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 7 March 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

I went to see a Foggy Notions gig in Dublin and didn't realise it was a magazine too. Is it bad or just typo-riddled?

Might have a look for State (and/or Foggy Notions, if that has distribution up north, but I've never seen it so I'm guessing not) when I'm in NI over Easter, but REM on the cover of a magazine in 2008 doesn't really excite me into buying it.

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

The magazine is alright. It's kind of like a zine pretending to be a magazine, with fairly limited content. And it is totally full of typos. Or it was last time I read a copy.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 9 March 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)


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