― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 March 2003 07:06 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 March 2003 07:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Saturday, 8 March 2003 11:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 8 March 2003 12:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Saturday, 8 March 2003 12:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Randy Farang (TOOTHFANGCLAW), Saturday, 8 March 2003 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)
The real question in re: John Waters is a very rockist question: was the early stuff better, much better, or is that whole question bullshit? Everybody went nuts over Polyester which was good but lacked the "these people are truly insane" appeal of earlier films. Every JW movie since then has some embarassingly ham-handed moments, even the GREAT Cecil B. Demented (the scene where they sit around singing "Demented Forever" as they get branded made me cringe, it was so corny). At the same time, his eye for satire gets sharper as his audience widens. BUT AT THE VERY SAME TIME DONT'TCHA KNOW the jokes come less rapid-fire, seem more self-conscious, etc. Knowing that one has an audience & feeling obligated to same, Classic or Dud?
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― jones (actual), Saturday, 8 March 2003 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tag (Tag), Saturday, 8 March 2003 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)
And his recollections live are pretty much like a standup comedy act. Very funny man in person.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 8 March 2003 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― estela, Saturday, 8 March 2003 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 March 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)
Anyway, Divine's performance in Polyester, the crackup descent into booze and pills, is surely one of the greatest film performances EVER EVER EVER. The commitment and detail in it blows nearly all other movie "acting" out of the fucking pond.
"No single bullet can destroy the beauty of fascism"
― g.cannon (gcannon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 01:53 (twenty-three years ago)
Not only do I like "Female Troubles," I am also keen to "Polyesters," and "Hairsprays."
― pedro the jaguar, Sunday, 9 March 2003 03:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― estela, Sunday, 9 March 2003 03:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― pedro the jagura (pedro the jaguar), Sunday, 9 March 2003 03:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Sunday, 9 March 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― Skottie, Sunday, 9 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 9 March 2003 20:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 9 March 2003 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― duane, Sunday, 9 March 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Sunday, 9 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 9 March 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 10 March 2003 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)
Same here. You can't top the unspeakably bizarre sensibility of the early films, but Hairspray, the greatest film of 1988, manages to keep the weirdness but add in his essentially, uh..., em,...er...sweet-- personality too. Ricki Lake was brilliant, Divine of course.
No, Homer. Ultrasuede is a miracle. This was just good timing. Or something like that.
― Skottie, Monday, 10 March 2003 01:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Monday, 10 March 2003 01:21 (twenty-three years ago)
Yeah, well agreed. And yes the movie overall is quite great!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:42 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 27 July 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 27 July 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 27 July 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tag (Tag), Sunday, 27 July 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)
i like how all his movies take place in baltimore.
― kephm, Sunday, 27 July 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 July 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 27 July 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 July 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 27 July 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 27 July 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tag (Tag), Sunday, 27 July 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 27 July 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 27 July 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 27 July 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Monday, 28 July 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tag (Tag), Monday, 28 July 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― jason m. (jason m), Monday, 28 July 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 July 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 July 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 28 July 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
What is the trick of being an adorable asshole?
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)
watched this at bma, didn't disappointhttp://www.nytimes.com/video/t-magazine/100000003435098/teaser-john-waters-kiddie-flamingos.html
― am0n, Monday, 31 October 2016 18:56 (nine years ago)
Found a complete version of Desperate Living on YouTube last night and it fucking killed me again. So many totally insane characters and scenes. I never really noticed it b4 but its definitely his lesbian/dyke film. Of course, there are other um "avenues" explored but that one is most prominent. The low budget sets are fantastic! The buildings in Mortville are near psychedelic in their coloring. Just beautiful. And also of note, was the absence of Divine, fortunately the other Dreamlanders rise to the occasion. Definitely his darkest film by a considerable margin. I fucking love it!
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 29 July 2017 05:14 (eight years ago)
"SEIZE her and FUCK her!"
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:40 (eight years ago)
LOL! Yeah, there are so many great lines in DL."look at that pelt", "every word I utter is to be taken as a direct, royal proclamation", the aforementioned white man/tampax line. It just goes on and on. The scene wherein Mo emasculates herself, tosses it and some random dog grabs it up. It's truly remarkable how successful it is even without The Divine Miss Divine. And its definitely a film whose appeal to me would never be explainable to my parents ala Warhols Trash and many other favorites.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
For some reason, I can't get my library to stock the Criterion of Multiple Maniacs.
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:35 (eight years ago)
TELL HER this isn't some communist daycare center!!!
can't tell you how many times i've thought about the title of this thread re: current administration and basically every single news day about it
― comey did deflategate (daria-g), Sunday, 30 July 2017 02:14 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9P_sxaaMJE
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 05:50 (eight years ago)
this is pretty priceless btw; the two tone collar is dope and waters is sharp as a tack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEzk1DqTaaQ
amazed no one goes to waters these days with an open checkbook, seems like it would be printing money... has he said he's just not making anything anymore?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:05 (eight years ago)
I remembered a funny John Waters anecdote yesterday that I told to friends
I saw him speak on my college campus, probably fifteen years ago, and he was joking about how after he'd mentioned poppers a number of times, one of the manufacturers had gifted him a "lifetime supply"
I saw him again a couple years ago, and the topic came up. He said he'd nearly run out! Either they underestimated him or he's lived longer than expected
― mh, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:25 (eight years ago)
It’s a good thing I’m not relying on making movies. That’s the only one of the careers I have today that isn’t going so great. In the independent film world now, they want you to make it for $2 million and I don’t want to go backwards. I don’t want to be a faux anarchist underground filmmaker at 71 years old. People say, ‘Well, why don’t you raise money on Kickstarter?’ I own three homes. I’m not panhandling. So that’s fine because I have different ways to tell stories.
Do you miss filmmaking?
No. I mean, I do. I miss it, but not completely. I would make another movie in a minute, but I don’t know when I would make it. I am scheduled for the next year already! I made a lot of movies. It’s not like they’re hard to see. I know I would miss it if I didn’t write. I would miss it if I didn’t do spoken word. I would miss it if I didn’t have a photography career. I’d be happy to make one, but if I don’t make another one, I’m fine with that too.
https://www.fastcompany.com/40480667/john-waters-is-done-being-a-faux-anarchist-underground-filmmaker
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:12 (eight years ago)
I own three homes. I’m not panhandling.
God bless him.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 November 2017 21:48 (eight years ago)
Odorama cards this Fri night in NYC
https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/6341
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:47 (six years ago)
I still have my card from when I saw it in the 80s. Haven't sniffed it recently, wonder if it's still got the aromas.
― nickn, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:44 (six years ago)
A hero has passed.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/obituaries/bs-md-ob-david-gluck-20200619-tgunh2dcazbl5pvymnvho2ecvy-story.html
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:09 (five years ago)
Also rewatched Female Trouble the other day having finally gotten the Criterion Blu-ray and man, that thing's more crazily prescient than ever.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:16 (five years ago)
But of course
John Waters bequeaths his art collection to Baltimore Museum of Art, whose bathrooms will be named in his honor https://t.co/BqVZPKx74z— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 12, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:06 (five years ago)
perfect
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:07 (five years ago)
my house appeared in pecker for two seconds and i am trying to remember if the house at the end of my street was pecker's house or if i made that up, either way i feel part of this
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:50 (five years ago)
Lovely new featurehttps://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a37460247/john-waters-cover-story-interview-2021/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 September 2021 15:09 (four years ago)
Just saw the first date of this year’s Christmas tour here in SF, great as ever. Some news:*4K of Cry-baby on Kino Lorber next year* Possible Criterion of Pink Flamingos in the works.* First novel next year! Liarmouth — about a woman who steals luggage from airports.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 05:51 (four years ago)
Seeing the Xmas show tonight
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:25 (four years ago)
And it's happening
https://www.criterion.com/films/31320-pink-flamingos
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 March 2022 16:49 (four years ago)
Pink Flamingos is one of the films, like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, that I saw numerous times when I was younger, and agree is culturally or historically significant (!) yet have no desire to watch again.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:31 (four years ago)
I have Pink Flamingos on a VHS videotape somewhere and honestly watching it on a 4K Blu-Ray seems like an example of comically missing the point.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:45 (four years ago)
Luckily it's just a normal BR.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:47 (four years ago)
New book, new interview etc.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/scaachikoul/john-waters-book-liarmouth
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:41 (four years ago)
Great read! Thanks Ned!
― BrianB, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 11:05 (four years ago)
omg omg omg
John Waters to make first film in 20 years with Aubrey Plaza set to star
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:34 (two years ago)
Here's hoping!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:57 (two years ago)
Wow, can't believe it's been that long. By a weird coincidence I am currently reading Liarmouth and it very much feels like one of his films.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:12 (two years ago)
JW does an Amoeba "what's in my bag?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AOk8cSrZAY
― donna rouge, Monday, 16 March 2026 23:46 (two months ago)
man with a midas touch
― My homies buttthole surfers' record sounds like a f (Western® with Bacon Flavor), Tuesday, 17 March 2026 01:43 (two months ago)
HAIRSPRAY
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 March 2026 01:59 (two months ago)
(coming on Criterion along with Female Trouble, why has nobody bumped that thread)
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 March 2026 02:00 (two months ago)
Desperate Living, not FT, but also exciting news!
― donna rouge, Tuesday, 17 March 2026 02:12 (two months ago)
FT was already released by Criterion so yay that too.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 March 2026 02:14 (two months ago)
oh right sorry, mixed 'em up in my breathless excitement
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 March 2026 14:58 (two months ago)
Turning EIGHTY tomorrow??
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 21 April 2026 22:58 (one month ago)
Happy 80th, John! See you at Mosswood Meltdown
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 17:41 (one month ago)
This came out late last year, so maybe not the freshest news, but I was excited to see his cameo in the intro to Sarah Squirm's HBO special.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 18:56 (one month ago)
Mosswood Meltdown
this sounds so fun
― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:19 (one month ago)
It's a treat of a festival, attended the past few years now. (Had to miss last year but definitely in for it again this time out.) He introduces literally each act and does so with poetic glee. That and our own Chaki regularly handles the backstage streaming stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:34 (one month ago)
yeah I was out of town last year but should be around this summer
For a few years, we just set up blankets right outside the paid area, bottles of wine and picnic stuff... you can people-watch the folks going in, more or less hear the bands, and sit in the shade with cheap beer. (I'm also usually pretty good at just walking right in like I own the place lol)
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:40 (one month ago)
“Some call it “The Warped Woodstock’ or ‘An Asshole-free Altamont’ while others holler ‘Coachella, Go-To Hella’. We’re Mosswood Meltdown and we’re going to lose our musical marbles again this year with a line up of lunatic acts that will make even the angriest punk- rocker pogo their way to paradise with a twisted smile on their dirty little faces.”
— John Waters
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:44 (one month ago)
Pavement?!?!
https://mosswoodmeltdown.com/
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:45 (one month ago)
Yeah, slightly separate show this time as normally it's just Saturday and Sunday. I'm sure people will have a good time, but as I've already seen Wednesday I'm skipping that part.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:47 (one month ago)
the festival was actually started by the defunct and disgraced Burger Records but has been it's own thing for the last few
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 20:51 (one month ago)
And it streams on twitch and youtube (most acts).
― nickn, Wednesday, 22 April 2026 21:12 (one month ago)
This came out late last year, so maybe not the freshest news, but I was excited to see his cameo in the intro to Sarah Squirm's HBO special.― peace, man, Wednesday, April 22, 2026 2:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― peace, man, Wednesday, April 22, 2026 2:56 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
And of course she had shared the clip on her instagram yesterday.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DXcLp_jA8lG/
― peace, man, Thursday, 23 April 2026 12:00 (one month ago)
Heard from a friend who experienced it that his Camp John Waters in Connecticut is a total blast and will leave you loving the guy even more. This is apparently the last year they're doing it, in September.
― Josefa, Thursday, 23 April 2026 12:48 (one month ago)