Blake's 7 / Blake 7: Classic or Dud?

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Hawk Dove, Sunday, 9 March 2003 01:49 (twenty-three years ago)

It's like modern dance, but a different kind of silliness.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 9 March 2003 10:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Come Out Villa! I won't hurt you.

Defo classic.

tigerclawskank, Monday, 10 March 2003 10:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Blakeys 7 is even better! Soo Lin as a clippy, smashing.

I say it's a dud all-in-all. Terrible stories, hammy acting. But GREBT fun to watch in the right frame of mind. The ONE GOOD EP as referred to in the previous post does not redeem all the others.

Alan (Alan), Monday, 10 March 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I've not seen it for years but I remember it all as being pretty good. The continuing plot developments were pretty novel for a sci-fi series, no?

It suffered from the 'crew encounter mysterious life force AGAIN' thing.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought I had dreamt the idea of B7 being a political allegory, but then I found this page.

Still, I feel, my reading of the power of Blake's revolutionary charisma has made me grasp more intensely, so much more tragically, the pain and trauma of that final scene on Gauda Prime...

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:21 (twenty-three years ago)

ok, concept = classic, execution (largely) = dud. I do get irritated by the stock "wobbly sets" criticism (yes I am this sad) cos (frinstance) the liberator set was fantastic, and the designers who worked on the show were obv v talented.

Alan (Alan), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you could - sad alert - construct a B7 viewing programe concentrating on the episodes where plot actually happens and the few good filler ones and it would be a rollicking good watch. It's the thought of all 50-odd episodes of 'look this space tribe worships Avon as a God' that's the problem.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 10 March 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I visited the set of Blakes 7 and touched Avon's belt.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

i've seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of john ryan

mark s (mark s), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

What were you doing on the set of Blake's 7, Nick?

(knows but N. should share with the class)

suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm sure i've put this pic on before, but sod it...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/tv/blakes7/servalan/images/340/12maximumpower.jpg

N's dad: http://www.roundel.demon.co.uk/Clapperboard/B7_C4.html

Alan (Alan), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Aw, and here I was going to guess that N. made a convincing alien.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

(not one of Tom's "the plot" stories)

Alan (Alan), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

I never liked this show. It seemed dead boring to me. And of the genre, ditto Battlestar Galactica. (And almost Buck Rogers... but it had Mel Blanc, which is *something*...)

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Monday, 10 March 2003 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

My dad played some half-arsed Darth Vader-alike henchman to an evil master. He had a long black gown and a glowing wand that vaguely resembled a light sabre. I played with that too.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
Revive as they're making some more.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Since this thread began I have 'acquired' the complete series. I was wrong, they are all grebt though most episodes would be better at 40 minutes not 50. I suspect the later ones may be worse though, I've only got as far as the end of series 1.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm saving my thoughts on the relaunch for somewhere else.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i too worshipped Kerr Avon as a god

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The theme tune was class.

gobemouche, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Did any of the lead actors become famous for anything else?

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ted Hills from Stenders was one of the Traviss. Dana bird did some RSC stuff not long back. (That's not famous I know.) Soolin of course was Dempsey (or Makepiece) but that was prior ro B7. um... They all keep popping up in Brookside and "cult" kids dramas.

Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Glynis Barber also played Jane (based on the Daily Mirror cartoon).

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

And are any of them dead?

I was trying to remember this on the tube home last night, sorry.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I just remembered that Gareth Thomas appeared in the Belle & Sebastian "Legal Man" video.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

All the lead actors are still going but Roy Kinnear and Stratford Johns, both cameos, have copped it.

gobemouche, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.tarrantnostra.com/b7lib/steven2.htm

Steven Pacey, player of Tarrant, is now in The Bill spin off, M.I.T.

Rod S. Twig, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Was he the one who was also in a contender for worst British sitcom ever? He was a vicar. It may have been called Trouble And Strife, but I might be wrong about that.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Troubles and Strife, mid-eighties, ITV. Truly shocking.

gobemouche, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
The fourth and final series of Blake's 7 comes out on DVD (UK) next March.


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/blakes7/servalan/images/340/12maximumpower.jpg

(what the hell)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

MAXIMUM POWER!!!


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

So, is this new series happening then?

http://www.blakes7.com/

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Apparently not.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

We're doing the subs on the last series (or S4 as we in the "business" like to say). This, as ever, doesn't mean I'll get to see any of it - more likely I'll be chasing frame grabs, chapters, scripts, authoring houses, blahblahblahzzzz. If N.'s dad isn't in any of these 13 eps, I'm not interested.

I've already put my foot down and insisted on a possessive apostrophe if the series is referred to by name in any DVD extras. Title sequence purists can eat my underpants.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Classic, for several reasons, chiefly, imo, the bickering and in-fighting amongst the crew, far more entertaining than the anodyne Star Trek, and without which there would never have been Farscape.

And Avon was yum. And I used to be in a band called Project Avalon.

Zora (Zora), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Ns dad isn't in series 4 :-(

in other good DVD news. Survivors final series is out. just ordered it. NUM NUM

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

No, he's in the third series, as the Caliph in Dawn of the Gods. The BIZARRE thing, which I only found out last week, is that the next episode, Harvest of Kairos, features a CHARACTER called Dastor. I assume this was some kind of gag, or else that they just liked his name. It seems weird, timeline-wise. They surely didn't cast Dawn of the Gods before the script for Harvest of Kairos was written, so they must have changed the character's name later or maybe only cast my dad after using his name in the other episode. Very odd. I asked him and he knew nothing about it. Anyway, there are lines like "Dastor, I think it's time we had a little strategic counsel." I must watch it!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

(I am also hoping to catch him in the Space 1999 repeats on ITV4)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Series four's DVD release has been put back to 24th April.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Delays finishing off the extras (or the text commentaries or something); anyway, all I know is we did the episodes weeks ago and only now are getting our filthy mitts on yr VAMs. El1zab3th Park3r Pebble Mill interview! Cor!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
I heard a story the other day about someone who met Gareth Thomas in a bookshop. Said person saw Gareth and shouted "Blake!". Gareth grumbled: "I've been an actor for 35 years, and all people remember me for is that piece of shit."


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me of a story about Alec Guinness. Some little kid came running up to him and said "You're Obi-Wan Kenobi, aren't you!" and he wearily said "Yes, I am" and agreed to give him his autograph or whatever. Then Guinness said "Will you promise me one thing?" and the kids said yes, anything and Guinness said "Promise never to watch Star Wars again" and the kid cried.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:25 (twenty years ago)

ooooooooooooooooohhh to be Ernest Thessinger

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Gareth Thomas was in London's Burning for years. He played a head of department, always offering practial solutions to his second in command who was more of a maverick. Not typecast at all.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:54 (twenty years ago)

did anyone read the sequel book(s?)? I read part of the first one and it was crap.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Am slowly working my way through the DVD's, the gap due to postal DVD makes it all the more bearable. Best watch at at least 10% sped up, Travis has ALWAYS been rubbish, and on the whole the plot episodes are much much better than the random aliums one (with the 'exception of the planet of saliva which is bostin'). Can't wait for series three and Blake to fuck off though. He's the worst thing in it (well except Gan who got whot he deserved).

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I've just watched episode one. No Servalan, no Avon, nearly all the characters in it never appear again, amazingly ropey special effects, but it is still great.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 21 February 2008 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I've started thinking that (shock) Blake's 7 might actually be BETTER than Doctor Who, because it is more serious and more for grown-ups (I am a grown-up myself). On the other hand, it only lasted four seasons.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 21 February 2008 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

they used to show this on the chicago pbs station back in the late '80s and i thought it was pretty great, but then again i was 11 or 12 when i watched it.

omar little, Thursday, 21 February 2008 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Sky One to remake Blake's 7

The satellite channel has given the go-ahead for the development of two 60-minute scripts with a view to a potential "event series".

Alba, Thursday, 24 April 2008 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

If they go down the BSG re-imagining route of ramping up the sex, violence and unpleasantness and darkening the tone, this could be outstanding. Although, on reflection, darkening the tone of Blake's 7 would probably put it quite deep into wrist-slitting territory.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 24 April 2008 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

apparently the bbc is remaking 'the survivors' too.

banriquit, Thursday, 24 April 2008 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone seen this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421750/ and is it any good?

Blake's Junction 7 (2004)

Cult '80s sci-fi gang "Blake's 7" make an eventful late night stop at Newport Pagnell Services on the M1.

onimo, Thursday, 24 April 2008 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

We worked on the subs for that, onimo. As ever, I didn't actually see it. It was packaged with two other short films - World of Wrestling, in which Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks, Kendo Nagasaki, etc miss the night bus and Ant Muzak, in which Adam Ant and Steve Strange go to the supermarket. They were potentially funny. I've got a DVD-R somewhere, I should check 'em out.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 24 April 2008 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

£10.98 on amazon, I'll look around for a cheapo copy.

onimo, Thursday, 24 April 2008 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Just the idea of Mackenzie Crook as Servalan cracks me up.

onimo, Thursday, 24 April 2008 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Darling.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 24 April 2008 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

That was my Jacqueline Pearce B7 commentary track impression.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 24 April 2008 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

It's a Jacqueline Pearce anything commentary track impression. There's a lovely bit on the commentary to The Two Doctors where she talks about going to the hotel bar naked, because the staff were pretty inattentive and she thought that was the best way to get their attention.

aldo, Thursday, 24 April 2008 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

from wikipedia:

"Pearce currently resides in the Limpopo province of South Africa where she is living at The Vervet Monkey Foundation where she looks after orphaned Vervet Monkeys."

ahhhh.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 24 April 2008 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

Darling!

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 24 April 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Started watching the first season. Am intrigued.

kingfish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

# Creator Terry Nation pitched the show to BBC executives off the cuff, having made no notes or outlines. He started talking about The Dirty Dozen (1967) in space, and made up the rest as he went along.

kingfish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

And why does Blake appear to be some odd amalgam of Lou Reed and Jonah Hill?

kingfish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

Oh sweet, brian blessed is in this.

kingfish, Saturday, 3 May 2008 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm about half-way thru the first season. I'm really enjoying this, and getting a kick out of the acting and character work, even if the series has that 70's-overlit-BBC-look. Avon is great; I'd get a kick out of seeing Paul Darrow onstage.

Also I like how their away suits predate those of the first two star trek movies by a few years.

kingfish, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

Dude who replaced Travis in the 2nd series reminds me too much of Bryan Ferry, only with slightly less eyeliner.

kingfish, Monday, 12 May 2008 08:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Season 1 Travis is wayyyyyy better.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 12 May 2008 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Did anyone ever read Paul Darrow's autobio?

kingfish, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

what do people think of Tarrant?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

I was also interested to discover that the woman who played Dayna has received an OBE for services to acting. It would be great if she had been the Queen's favourite B7 character.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

americans still don't get to watch this, boo. i saw 5-6 episodes when i was in england as a kid and loved it. i'd like to see the whole thing, but a region 1 release seems extremely unlikely. a lot of them are on youtube, but i'd really prefer a dvd.

tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, over here, this is something you only hear mentioned. Still, for those who hate watching youtube'd episodes, you can find the full seasons thru the usual channels. The video looks a lot better and cleaner than even some of the Peter Davison eps I've seen thru similar means.

Maybe if the Sci-Fi Network gets ahold of the new series/specials, it'll spark enough interest for a stateside release of the originals.

On another note, I found out that the guy who runs the HP Lovecraft filmfest I've been volunteering at for the last 3-4 years also distributes one of Paul Darrow's films:

http://lurkerfilms.com/cat/img/hplc02.gif

I've always seen that dvd on the merch table, but never made the connection until that box photo popped up in a GIS result.

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:15 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/images/173/tarrant_full.jpg

http://www.waveney.org/B7Com/charprof/Tarrant.jpeg

So this is Tarrant, huh. Haven't gotten to his season yet. Got burned out thru season 2, switched to "Jekyll" for a while.

lol 1980.

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:21 (seventeen years ago)

Tarrant is popular with the ladies.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

Kingfish, that film looks AWESOME.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

Just in case it has not been said already, one thing that is not good about Blake's Seven is how retro all the technology is. It was made just before PCs started to get really big, and a lot of the hardware people use in the first series looks dated by the last one.

What is good about the programme is the acting, direction (not always), scripts (not always) and characters. The Tanith Lee and Robert Holmes written stories in the last season are particular highlights (as indeed are the Terry Nation written ones from the first).

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, those HPL dvds are neat little collections. Lots of the shorts that we screen at the filmfest every year.

http://lurkerfilms.com/cat/index.html

The 3rd one has a canadian short feature with a flawless portrayal of HPL himself: http://www.unfilmable.com/Aaron05_13.gif

The guy nails that new england/conservative gentry accent perfectly.

kingfish, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

The Paul Darrow thing is a pilot for a series that never got made. It's pretty good, but not outstanding (although good enough to get made, certainly).

aldo, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

God damn but Paul Darrow alone shits all over the dramatic quality(gravitas?) of anyone in any American genre series(incl. P. Stewart)

kingfish, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Watching 'Rough Magik' now. Probably the first time i've ever seen the Falklands War connected to the Mythos.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1262037/

The DVD is being reissued with _Experiment 17_, one of the strongest shorts ever shown at the HPL Film Fest. It's about the Nazis finding the Necronomicon, and what happens when they try reading it.

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

Still, if nothing else, not bad for about 8 & a half quid.

Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 05:55 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.hermit.org/blakes7/Merchant/Tapes/sol/AS3-InlayF.jpeg

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

Major Grondlepuss ftw

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 23 July 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

I...have doubts.

http://io9.com/5929116/blakes-7-reboot-coming-to-us-television

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2012 00:45 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I have further doubts.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/syfy-to-develop-remake-of-cult-u-k-sci-fi-series-blakes-7-with-martin-campbell/#more-322547

Originally created by prolific British TV writer Terry Nation (Dr. Who), Blake’s 7 premiered on the BBC in 1978, running for four seasons. Referred to as “The Dirty Dozen in space,” the series centered around hard-core renegades and criminals who escape from a prison planet, battling humans and aliens alike – and becoming heroes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I sure hope post-Battlestar Galactica SyFy allows for the utter ambiguity of the characters but if this description seriously matches the actual pitch then good lord.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:52 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit, had no idea this was happening. aren't syfy a joke channel? sharktopus and the like? this will be awful!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

For US folks: the series has just been added to Britbox over here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 August 2021 19:56 (four years ago)

six months pass...

Shivan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMEEsmHbV9k

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Saturday, 5 March 2022 16:56 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsYhxCdVI4

Maresn3st, Saturday, 5 March 2022 17:06 (four years ago)

four weeks pass...

On to Series 3 now, this immediately seems significantly more modern. Pretty good so far. Michael Sheard as a federation death squad leader, how did I not know that Mr. Bronson had been force-choked by Darth Vader? Then again this knowledge could have sent me down a dark path.

Related - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/apr/02/josette-simon-if-i-wasnt-me-id-like-to-be-prime-minister

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Saturday, 2 April 2022 09:54 (four years ago)

Jacqueline Pearce is really phenomenal, I still totally believe the ludicrous character which is nothing like her persona in interviews.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Saturday, 2 April 2022 09:57 (four years ago)

Playing a federation death squad leader must have been light relief for Michael Sheard during a career of being cast as a Nazi:

Sheard portrayed Adolf Hitler five times in his career: in Rogue Male (1976), The Tomorrow People (1978), The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission (1985), Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) and the documentary Secret History: Hitler of the Andes (2003). He also portrayed Heinrich Himmler three times, in The Death of Adolf Hitler (1973), The Bunker (1981) and Space (1985). Although Sheard never played Hermann Göring, he did play Göring's double in the 'Allo 'Allo! episode Hitler's Last Heil.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Saturday, 2 April 2022 15:49 (four years ago)

I guess the reboot of this series never happened. Not that the one proposed would have been right, but I can envision one that would in fact be very good.

akm, Saturday, 2 April 2022 16:47 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Coming to Bluray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MEREpHICIQ

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 August 2024 19:47 (one year ago)

Key point per Gizmodo! -- "complete with all new practical model work for the show’s VFX sequences"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 August 2024 19:49 (one year ago)

More key: the new effects will be optional, not forced. The restoration and VAM is being done by the folks behind the C20th Dr Who blu-rays (and the Making Blake’s 7 twitter bloke), so the platinum standard for VT archive TV.

bae (sic), Thursday, 22 August 2024 20:14 (one year ago)

Most excellent.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 August 2024 20:28 (one year ago)

I’ve been watching this show for the last few weeks as a distraction on a stationary bike. The first season has lots of nostalgia value and gritty sci fi vibes but after that, about 60% of the episodes are so bad I often quit in disgust. The idea of new practical effects is very cool tho - the ship designs are great but the shots they made with them are unbelievably bad.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 22 August 2024 20:34 (one year ago)


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