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why doesn't pittsburgh have an ethiopian restaurant??? WHY?????

john fail (cenotaph), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Eeeg. Come to LA. There's a couple of city blocks of nothing BUT Ethiopian restaurants!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Fairfax!

felicity (felicity), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Woohoo!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Ethiopian restaurant ROXOR. There are many of them in Toronto, one of the advantages in living in such a multicultural city. We actually live in an area that's about 5 blocks north of a smattering of them. Mmmmm.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

cleveland is the closest. and i have been known to drive 1.75 hours just to get ethiopian food. but i heard a rumour that the clevo ethiopian place just went out of business, which would place the next-closest to... philly? maybe detroit has one.

john fail (cenotaph), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)

move to DC. When I lived there, there were many cheap but good ones. I ran into one in the Mission District of SF CA a while back. Though not horrible, it was not as good as the ones I used to go to in DC many years back.

Lithium Lunchbox (Lithium Lunchbox), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:31 (twenty-three years ago)

if you want ethiopian in SF, go the western addition... i recommend cafe waziema or sawa on divisadero.

the mission specializes in tacquerias or overpriced hipster food.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

There is definitely one just north of Detroit. Right off Woodward if I recall.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

The tacquerias are pretty good in the Mission but nowhere as good as the ones in TJ. I have to agree with you on the OVERPRICED-ness of those hipster joints in the Mission. Can you believe how much the want for lambchops at the SLANTED DOOR? What a crock! Even at the tapas bars down there you can't escape without having felt ripped off even if the food and drinks were good.
Sawa? I'll have to give it a try the next time I'm up in SF.

Lithium Lunchbox (Lithium Lunchbox), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

gygax! and I once shared an intimate dinner together at the Slanted Door.

*sniff*

hstencil, Monday, 10 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't tell you which ilXor I had dinner with there or I'll be sent back to the doghouse!
The food was good but was a bit pricey. If I want to spend that much money on dinner I'd rather have roasted crab in the Sunset district (I can't remember the name of the place but I'll contact my SLANTED DOOR dinner companion for details).
Also, the Asian restaurants on Clement Street are keys to life. My daughter like Fjtes on Hayes but I believe their reputation is a bit overrated. I still like the place... just odn't like spending 5 bucks for fries that should cost $1.25.

Lithium Lunchbox (Lithium Lunchbox), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Three or four (that I know of) practically on top of each other in Adams Morgan. Why so bunched together?

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:21 (twenty-three years ago)

tacquerias in TJ? hrmmm... have you been to Mexico DF, amigo?

pedant note: the slanted door is now (permanently?) located in south of market between the financial district and pacbell park.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

temporarily

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

J.Lu: Adams-Morgan = future "Little Addis?" ("Little Asmara" to set up residence in Atlanta.)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, that was sort of opaque. There are just so many Ethiopians there that it feels like some sort of high school reunion, random people stopping one another on the street saying "Didn't we go to school together in Gondar? It's great to see you!" Atlanta is sort of the same but with more Eritreans.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

holy fuck, nabisco's here!!!!

um, if SF - cafe waziema for ethiopian and sawa for eritrean!!!

*dons kevlar vest*

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

No, I haven't been to the DF but I have a good friend from Tlalpan (a colonia de DF) and another one from Guanoguato and they both say the TJ tacos cannot be beat. There ae so many varieties in TJ it is mindboggling... probably due to the fact that it is a place where many people from all parts of Mexico migrate.


Since I have not been to the DF to do the Pepsi challenge of tacos I have to bump it up on my list of PRIROITY DESTINATIONS.

So... if you are in TJ and want to try to very good tacquerias, go to: 1. Tacqueria Ermita in colonia Ermita/La Mesa and Tacqueria Franc (Zona Rio)... also, any of the stands will do in a pinch. I like the ones specializing in steamed cow head the best.

A shout out to you Adams Morgan brats! Is Madams Organ still around? I remember hanging out there when I was kid seeing bands. Also, Kilimanjaro. The last show I ever saw there before my move to NYC many, many years ago was a Bad Brains gig.

Lithium Lunchbox (Lithium Lunchbox), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

holy fuck, nabisco's here!!!!

Surely it's not that horribly predictable of me to look in on discussions of Ethiopian food? :(

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

:P

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I was about to say that there is an Ethiopian place in Pitt but I realized that I was thinking about Philly (I live somewhere in between). The last time I had Ethiopian food I was in NYC and I asked for a hard boiled egg in addition to our meal which was vegan due to my vegan friend. Cost of 1 plain hardboiled egg... $2.00. I felt like I was in Zurich again where cans of cola were at least $2.00 everywhere you went.

Carey (Carey), Monday, 10 March 2003 23:53 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought ethiopians were in enough poverty that food was a rarity. how could there be a theme restaurant for food when the food doesn't exist?

cordelia, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 01:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to hand it to you, Cordelia, that's one joke I've NEVER HEARD BEFORE! It's so clever it should be in a Nora Ephron movie.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 01:06 (twenty-three years ago)

i have a friend from ethiopia and he says that DC roxor u all are gay

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 01:12 (twenty-three years ago)

There is definitely one just north of Detroit. Right off Woodward if I recall.

On 9 Mile, west of Woodward.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 03:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Adams-Morgan = future "Little Addis?"

Adams Morgan = present and future Greenwich Village South. If real estate prices continue on their present tangent, these places will be forced out before much longer. Then the high-salaried hipsters who paid megabucks for AM pseudolofts will bitch about gentrification, without the slightest trace of irony.

A shout out to you Adams Morgan brats!

Madam's Organ yes,; Kilimanjaro no.
:^{

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 04:28 (twenty-three years ago)

For some reason I thought that was the Ethio-hood. Where are the Meskerem and Red Sea restaurants? Actually I should just look this up.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

They're both on 18th St., just down from Columbia Road.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 05:35 (twenty-three years ago)

DC roXors in the Ethiopian Dept. I like Fasika's better than Meskerem, if only for the ambience of the upper room (and the Bob Marley on the stereo). I've never been to Addis Ababa (the restaurant), tho.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 07:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Seattle has plenty of places in the Central District that absolutely roxor.. Also Vancouver has a great place with an allyoucaneat Vegan Ethiopian Buffet for about $11CAN a pop.

Even mediocre ethiopian food is classic. Also "Njera" is one of the greatest words ever.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 07:57 (twenty-three years ago)

And I'll also weight on "that" block of Fairfax Ave. between Whitworth and Olympic being pretty much nothing but Ethiopian places. Merkato is my favorite of the bunch.

The problem is: that's pretty much all the Ethiopian places in southern California. :(

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 08:16 (twenty-three years ago)

when i was in adams-morgan there seemed to be an array of great looking ethiopian restaurants, as i was walking past i was glancing in the windows and it looked really nice.

first thing i did when i got back to london, went to the ethiopian restuarant in tufnell park. quite a mixed bag, my food was really nice, but my friends wasnt, and it did go a bit cold quickly, the bread was asbestosy as well.

so, while my part of the meal wasn't bad, it didnt look a patch on what the people in adams-morgan seemed to be eating:(

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)

''Ethiopian restaurant ROXOR. There are many of them in Toronto, one of the advantages in living in such a multicultural city. We actually live in an area that's about 5 blocks north of a smattering of them. Mmmmm.''

Mmmm indeed! the only time I went to one was in toronto and it was Mr carruthers who took me there. good times...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 10:30 (twenty-three years ago)

HA HA I finally have something to brag about! I might live in the ass-end of the worst part of the worst city on Earth but there are THREE count-'em THREE Ethiopian restaurants two minutes' walking distance from my house! One of them sells Ethiopian CDs too. Seriously, thanx for reminding me that living here is good for somethin'

dave q, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

dave q was positive abt something for a change so this thread has been v useful.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Mind you - three Ethiopian Restaurants and three phasing one way traffic lights due to roadworks. The Cally is just a whirlpool of magic.

(An an Injera Bakery too!)

By using Triangulation I have worked out exactly where on the Cally you live now Dave. Not the floor, but the address.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Lovely stews but I didn't like the bread very much when I had My First Ethiopian Food experience... then again the experience was also flavoured by lots of cheap wine. NUM!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

-too bad about Kilimanjaro. A great place for gigs in the 80's. I'm glad Madam's organ is still a: http://static.everyone.net/ad_images/yourfreedvds/YourFreeDVDs_120x600_3.gif

How about the 930? I hear it is still around but not in the Atlantis building. How are the "new" digs?

wutchootawkinboutwillis (wutchootawkinboutwillis), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:35 (twenty-three years ago)

There is a place in LA that will ship frozen containers of enjira and doro wat to you overnight. It's surprisingly good stuff, and doesn't even really cost that much. I'm sure there are a few non-cooking Ethiopians in the middle of Idaho or somewhere that really appreciate this.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Or non-cooking Ethiopians in Illinois, e.g. my dad.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Madam's organ

Erm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

do you have any info on this place in LA that ships ethiopian food? i'm very interested.

john fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco, how do you rate the Ethiopian food in Chicago?

The best Ethiopian restaurant I've been to is in Central Sq. in Cambridge, Mass.--but I've forgotten the name.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

best one i ever ate at is Meskarem in hell's kitchen, NYC.

john fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

do you have any info on this place in LA that ships ethiopian food?: I just sent email asking my father, and I'll note the relevant bits of his response here.

Nabisco, how do you rate the Ethiopian food in Chicago?: My favorite is Addis Abeba, on Clark just south of Addison; it's pricier and slightly finer-dining than the one right across the street (Ethio-Cafe, which is mostly just a mediocre buffet of vegetable dishes), but it's worth it, in that the food is generally pretty excellent. (Of my extended family only one uncle prefers Ethio-Cafe, and he gets pretty excited about a good value, so...) Mama Desta's down by Belmont is pretty okay -- nothing really notable but generally good. My memory of the one up north (Ethiopian Diamond?) is sort of hazy, but I think it's about the same.

(Disclaimer: my judging of Ethiopian restaurants places a lot of emphasis on whether or not they have good kitfo.)

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Ethiopian Diamond was pretty good plus sometimes Phil Cohran plays there!

hstencil, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Isn't there a second Ethiopian restaurant on Broadway north of Bryn Mawr?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

There are two, I can never remember which is which. One of them was run by these women who also worked food service at Northwestern -- they were always inviting me there when I was a student, but I don't think I ever made it until much later.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

if it's any consolation.. i don't think Ethopia has a Pittsburghian restaurant either.

ken c, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Crown Hotel, July 2007
http://i3.tinypic.com/2uei8hl.jpg
our party (I am in limegreen shirt at center, behind all the beer & tej)
http://i16.tinypic.com/669yeu1.jpg

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 3 September 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

My suggestion for lovers of Ethiopian food, which I may have already shared on ILX: buy a bag of berbere for your home.

This is a great suggestion. I have a good-sized tub of berbere that I picked up from the Ethiopian market across the street from Ethiopian Diamond, and I recently added some to an eggplant stew my girlfriend was making, and it gave it a great, hearty kick. This market is where we get injera, too.

jaymc, Monday, 3 September 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

Ate so much Ethiopian food on Sunday.

Jeff, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

haha other people take pictures of ethiopian food too!

dinner last week, home made:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/1316404465_74807cd758.jpg

jergïns, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

(wait not homemade injera but yeah the rest)

jergïns, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

bell, the new-ish place on 3rd street (meskel) is supposed to be fantastic.

lauren, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Any of the handful of Austinites been to the just-opened place by campus? I want to but am afraid of the newness of it.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

hmm...field trip to meskel anyone?

bell_labs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

YES!

lauren, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

y

Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

ethiopian is one of my favorites and it's been too long. i'll go anytime!

i hope meskel has good honey wine. the stuff they served us at awash was just manischewitz.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

haha. our last meal at awash was pretty meh, but my friend liked meskel so much that she went two nights in a row. i've heard that going on the early side is a good idea as it got a rave from the times shortly after opening and has been packed ever since.

lauren, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

awash = portions too small, and what there is of it not delicious enough.

Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

i dragged the bf, who had never had ethiopian, to awash, after talking it up way too much. he was very underwhelmed. hopefully this will change!

bell_labs, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

there's a place in New Brunswick, NJ called Makeda and it's probably some of the best food I've ever put in my mouth.

Rock Hardy sadly OTM re: Abyssinia. It's ok, not great :/
Seriously, I think Makeda ruined me wrt Ethiopian.

will, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

HOWEVER the new place a couple doors over from Awash is intriguing. It's vietnamese but all the meats are buddhist fakery. So like they have fake meat banh mi. But that's for another thread.

Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

The uptown Awash is totally solid -- never been to the village one. Meskerem by NYU = embarrassing.

Dimension took an Ethiopian with him to get food, and if y'all Noizers do a field trip, I'll expect you to do the same...

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

aw, of course!

lauren, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Whereas someone gave Jergin a whole lot of ibe! This is the polite and generous way to say "are you sure it's not going to be too spicy for you?" -- a healthy helping of tart, cooling cheese.

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - I do, however, have a bad habit of eating all the kitfo before anyone else can get any

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

What is the thing that looks and tastes kind of like hummus? I had it at an Ethiopian place in Berkeley but haven't encountered it in Chicago.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

OK I'm guessing it must be this (went to the menu):

Ye-Shiro Wät
Ground chickpeas simmered in a rich berberé (a mild blend of dried ground chilies) sauce and vegetable oil. Served with the veggie of the day.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's probably shiro alitcha, actually. Alitcha = without all the berbere, less spicy, and will still be chickpea-colored, rather than red/brown like wat.

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

(Not specific to shiro -- the wat vs. alitcha situation applies to, like, everything.)

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

(There's probably also a significant difference in the amount of clarified butter involved.)

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

Sam, hopefully hitting Aster's tonight for dinner and will report back!

patita, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

You're probably right, N., since it was in fact chickpea-colored and mild in taste.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

So does wat basically mean that berbere is involved?

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

Basically, yeah. And once you know the difference between wat and alitcha, ordering just involves knowing the names of common foodstuffs: beg is lamb, siga is beef, doro is chicken, shiro is chickpeas, mesir is lentils, etc.

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

(Or, well, to get all technical, both wat and alitcha are starting from boiled-down onions and clarified spiced butter -- the difference is whether you're spicing it up with berbere or not. There is berbere involved in plenty of non-wat/alitcha dishes, too.)

(Which, incidentally: vegans should always check that vegetable dishes are made with vegetable oil instead of clarified butter.)

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

Nabisco, didn't you say NM food is (spicewise) kind of like Ethiopian food? If so, what is a good point of comparison (ie such & such dish reselmbles Ethiopian food)? I will never get the Ethiopian around here but some sort of spice analogy would be interesting.

(I am so extra addixted to this green chile & beef stew the have at La Nueve Casitas down the street...god I think I'll go buy some right now.)

Abbott, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

oops, should read La NuevA Casitas

Abbott, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it's the flavor of the peppers used in the spices. I guess maybe since the geography's kinda similar -- high mountains in warm places -- the Ethiopian ones are a lot like New Mexico ones. More smoky than tangy?

nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, I think I would really like this stuff.

Abbott, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

Whereas someone gave Jergin a whole lot of ibe! This is the polite and generous way to say "are you sure it's not going to be too spicy for you?" -- a healthy helping of tart, cooling cheese.

-- nabisco, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 21:56 (1 hour ago) Link

lol no it wasn't really like that. in fact, everything was far less spicy than i expected it to be. next time i'll use jalapenos instead of serranos, and put more cayenne in the berbere.

and oh my god, the butter: so so good. i kept making jergins smell it.

since i made 5 dishes, each serving 6 - 8, we've got a freezer full of leftovers. we'll have ethiopian all autumn long.

lxy, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone is ever in Madison WI hit me up, we will go to Buraka and have many fine wats.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'll bring me daughter for ETH-FACTOR.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)

Ned and I (and others) had Ethiopian last night, but they were out of shiro wot, but it was all right, we got something else instead.

Casuistry, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

Austin, Texas finally has good Ethiopian! At least to my untutored palate, Asters is damn fine. The injera was wonderfully soft and springy and sour, and the korro wat kicked butt. They served it in about five minutes, too.

patita, Thursday, 6 September 2007 03:08 (eighteen years ago)

uh, make that dorro. I've been blanking on the name and saying "korma" all day, and then having to look it up.

patita, Thursday, 6 September 2007 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

Mmm, good. I was just thinking of them again as I passed it on the way to work. Cheap? Moderate?

Ms Misery, Thursday, 6 September 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

next thursday, nyc people?

lauren, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

yes. i'm in.

bell_labs, Thursday, 6 September 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

i'm cooking ethiopian food tonight. do i go with DORO ALICHA or DORO WAT? i have the spices and the butter. i'm not a very good cook.

jergïns, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Doro wat!

nabisco, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

I think wat might actually turn out better for a not-great cook, too -- the strong flavor of the berbere could cover it up if you're not dead-on with the other parts.

nabisco, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Mmm, doro wat. How dare you make me hungry.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

thanks, yeah. i need that covering up from the berbere!

jergïns, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

You men eat your dinner, eat your pork and beans
I eat more gomen [than] any man ever seen

Andy K, Monday, 6 July 2015 12:27 (ten years ago)

Ha.

Unrelated to that rhyme

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/food-dining/why-hasnt-ethiopian-food-gone-upscale/

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:26 (ten years ago)


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