Why do men hate Sex and the City SOOOO much?

My ex boyfriend always used to accuse me of being a Samantha. Uuuhhh... no! I *wish* I was strong and sassy enough to be a Samantha. Evidence one: I am neurotic. Evidence two: I have a column where I write things about ja22 bois that get me in trouble. I am a Carrie! Wooo! I may now go and purchase another pair of the footware of my choice. Adidas or Chelsea boots, it's so hard...

bad tv is just... awful.

bad tv about sex 'issues' is um... evil.

That doesn't answer your question really. But it's not cos it's obsessed with shoes and pretty clothes - any fule can see it's about relationships, which is great fodder for comedy and observation. Seinfeld did that really well with a light hand.

<troll>One is subtle and treats the viewer with intelligence, the other is for women</troll>

Buffy rules all.

I can't get over how smugly neurotic most TV characters are - jeez, have the grace to be properly, not just tokenly (real word?), distressed by your own inadequacies as a human being! I think this is part of my problem with distinguishing reality from fiction.

Am I getting old and boring? I guess I am.

i think they're both equally shite, is that ok?

Steve (Miranda's babyfather) is a barman Marcello.

Same dreary category though. You would have thought that after 9/11 they would have had them chasing some firefighters or something. Unless that was Kyle McLachlan and I fell asleep and missed it.

And besides i resent anyone who appears not to have to work for their money. If it was set in the Bronx and featured 4 subway conductors I'd be much happier.

The trouble is men just hate fun. That is why they don't like S&TC.

We like fun which is why we watch Ant & Dec's Saturday Evening Takeaway instead of S&TC gaah! ;-)

(God, what would a British "Sex and the City" be like, eh? Set in "west London" and starring Fay Ripley and Sarah Lancashire...)

i have never knowingly watched Cold Feet, thank Gawd.

Spaced I can go along with. I've always suspected, despite the script being written by a male/female duo, that Spaced is quite "blokey". I guess cos of the geekiness.

sorry, I hate fun this morning.

Happiness was prue brilliance.

A bass solo? Betcha it was a stand-up double bass and it was boring Michael Parkinson noodling instead of fucking about with the wah-wah pedal and BLASTING OFF INTO ATONAL SPACE!!

I like Midsomer Murders and Time Team though, so I've clearly no aesthetic judgement in these matters.

NB. if my pal gets a £1mil book advance/record deal/art sale (and it's happened to half a dozen friends already) I think it's safe to say that while I'm so skint, the drinks are on them. In fact, I'm going to YoYo tonight with hardworking friend who has to go to work function before the club and has an account cab for the night, so is picking me up when that's over. She's on a huge wage but I am the one with All-Encompassing London Guestlist Powers, which I've flexed for me, her and her boyfriend. So I guess it can balance out.

As far as the series goes, I have now reached the point that when I see SJP having a Mac monent, I switch off. That's the worst thing about the series.

I admit this makes me want to cry.

Actually it's another reason I like the book better. At least there you find out that two years prior to the story taking off Carrie was sleeping on a piece of foam in a one room appartment, getting burgled and eating pizza because she couldn't afford anything else. There's also a chapter on the vaguely phsycotic experience of doing the big city/ brand new job/ no money/ drinking too much mid-twenties experience.

That apartment isn't in Midtown BTW - it looks like 9th btwn 5th and 6th aves or extremely similar.

It's *emotional* honesty that I care about in my rom-com, and I find that SATC has enough emotional honesty that I'm able to be happy and use it as aspirational lifestyle, rather than annoyance.

And yes, JA22 Boi's solo was rubbish, but it still made me giggle.

Also, Buffy is *really* popular, and that makes me think there must be something seriously wrong with it. Also, a big chunk of its viewers are computer geek boys who have bizarre 'lesbian' fantasies about it. Take it away!

SatC is quite funny sometimes. But I'm not crazy about it.

was your friend named paris?

PARIS HILTON

ramzi whatever you do dont go to paris with baryshnikov!

Paris Hilton is not awesome.

i'd leave an abusive barishnykov for paris hilton, no doubt

i won't max! ugh. i hate him

no she's not awesome, did you see that long hair thing she did recently? like LONG

I guess fundamentally it comes down to the fact that watching Sex and the City is like being stuck with 4 arrogant women on a really long car ride and having to deal with them gradually losing their shit on each other while you sit in the middle backseat, completely ignored as they talk around and over you.

SO OTM.

Sitting on the subway you can see a group of 4 girls and tell they're all thinking to themselves, "we're like, so Sex and the City"

I bet Ned and Dan feel that way too.

ladies and gentlemen, burt_stanton

this happens all the time. it even happens with me and my friends. does that make me an ugly person?

just inappropriately dressed

Where do you live mookieproof, Bumfuck USA?

ZING!

someone shop this pls thx

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ladies and gentlemen, burt_stanton

Let me rephrase. They had to write that Baryshnikov's character hit her (despite it seeming out of character and forced) so that she could end up with Big and the non NYers that they were writing to (as Gabb says above) wouldn't be offended. It was cheap and it stank of bad faith to me.

also bad writing

dramaturgically speaking, forced choice =/ choice

it would be awesome in the sex in the city movie if they all are killed by vampire dinosaurs.

prada-wearing dinosaurs

ok that's kinda funny

The show sucked because Vanessa Huxtable was never invited to be part of "the gang."

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wowww

Sitting on the subway you can see a group of 4 girls and tell they're all thinking to themselves, "we're like, so Sex and the City"

-- burt_stanton, Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:28 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I bet Ned and Dan feel that way too.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:29 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

and BIG HOOS sits on the subway with his fish named Louis Jagger, looking at strangers and thinking "you're such a Ned" and "oh you're definitely a Dan Perry".

Where do you live mookieproof, Bumfuck USA?

lol no

Bumfuck Gardens!

"I'm like Carrie cuz I leave my top on when I have sex"

"i'm like carrie because i have a lot of credit card debt"

"i'm like charlotte because I die in the movie of a UTI."

oh so it's not Big, eh?

also bad writing

dramaturgically speaking, forced choice =/ choice

And they still, after wrapping up years of back and forth about Carrie and Big, want me to shell out money to see a movie? Unless it's a bleak story of his alcohol related erectile dysfunction and her compensatory spiralling out of control in a flurry of compulsive shopping ending in them both driving off a cliff onto a TJ Maxx's in a middling suburb, it had BETTER be a 15 minute short about them all getting devoured by vampire dinosaurs or Anna Wintour as a zombie or something, and somebody had better be drowned in a butt of Malmsey wine cosmopolitans.

When cameras finally started rolling in New York City in September, the cast and crew figured they'd have to deal with the occasional group of curious passersby but nothing the production's two security guards couldn't handle. Whoops. ''On my first day, we all had to walk down the street together, and there were hundreds of people on Park Avenue, watching us,'' says Nixon, 42. ''It was daunting.'' It also wreaked havoc on the schedule. ''It took two to three times as long to shoot,'' says Parker. ''It's flattering that anybody still cares about these characters. But it's like an amoeba — ever-growing and out of control.''

hey, a movie comedy about irritating straights that's LONGER than Knocked Up!

you've been waiting months to write that, haven't you?

no, I never imagined anyone would have the chutzpah...

somehow its not surprising that sex in the city is a hot button issue with the dudes of ilx.

i know

but i am little surprised it's gone on for this long today, i feel this has been done

maybe not.

Irritating Straits

I'm flying out to London to see the premiere!!!!!!!!!!!

...which was 3 days ago

haha

getting mad about this show is zzz. its like complaining about starbucks or the suburbs or something. you are all very unique holden caulfields

it's true. complaining about starbucks is so 90s.

Oh well, you can tell how much I follow this shit. and complaining about people being holden caulfields is the most holden caulfield thing you can do.

what shows do you watch on tv?

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I'm so blasé about you guys being blasé about deej being blasé about stuff. Also max did the same thing better in that Phil Collins thread on ILM.

this show is Good