Bastardising the English Language

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My pet hate?
The Americanisation of the ENGLISH language. 'Lazy' English as we know it. Ugh!

There is only one way to use the English language - and that's the correct way. Realise will ALWAYS have an 's' in it.......

Also, this vile trend of 'text' spelling (b4, u etc)... it just gives us a generation of people who simply cannot spell correctly.

― russ t, Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:45 (twenty-three years ago)

but there's no real logic to silent letters or spelling words not how they sound, so although I consider myself excellent at 'correct' English spelling I actually think the American way is more sensible - even though it still irritates me when i see it in print.

txt spelling is fine - its all Primal Scream's fault I think. I suggest giving every child a Speak & Spell though, if anything just because the little computer voice is so cool.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

A thread about "Bastardising the English Language" on ILE...oh, the irony.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

They're over their pet hates over there.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Apart from the one against which they're about to start a war.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 March 2003 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

too many flavorings and colorings, that is the problem

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember being scandalised, aged 12 in my first German lesson, when Mr Hogg's first words were "English is a bastard language..."

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

my job = correcting the grammar and spelling of the highly educated
hence my escape = bastardising the english language

(since the 'z' is there in the original greek it actually scores higher on the pedant-meter: noah webster's rewiring of english was very extremely painstaking, the opposite of lazy)

txtng RDBLY rqrs mor tht thn wrtng in fll obv

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

trolling hits a linguistic turn

― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

russ is not a troll; he has been posting for some time.

as regards bastardisation of the english language, can we stop equating "troll" with "poster who doesn't agree with me"?

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:14 (twenty-three years ago)

blimey! that's the first time i called anyone a troll, and i knew he wasn't really (as you say, he's been around for ages), but i assumed he was being facetious. but "There is only one way to use the English language - and that's the correct way" is boringly wrong, and i'm not interested in explaining why.

― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Alan..

err...right.

"There is only one way to use the English language - and that's the correct way" is boringly wrong, and i'm not interested in explaining why. .... but interested enough to leave a message here that made little sense to anyone bar yourself?

Weird.

― russ t, Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, sorry. won't do it again.

― Alan (Alan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

alan's post makes sense, russ t: even if it wrongly/jokingly describes you as a troll it's perfectly semantically clear

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

and that's the trouble with it.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 March 2003 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

The one that confuses me is when people say, "X is more [y] than any {category of which X is a member}." I don't mind it, but because of my overliteralism the absence of the word "other" gives my head a little logic glitch-beat, like in the Madonna James Bond song.

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I caught this morning morning's minion, king-
dom of daylight's dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
As a skate's heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
Stirred for a bird, - the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!

Brute beauty and valour and act, oh, air, pride, plume, here
Buckle! AND the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion
Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my chevalier!

No wonder of it: sheer plod makes plough down sillion
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermilion.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Russ, you must REALLY hate Jamaicans

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, is that Hopkins?

― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

are you jamaican, cos jamaican me crazy

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Yup.

(Just giving Russ what he wants.)

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought Russ wanted English publications to stick with English spellings. If I knew he wanted Hopkins sonnets I would have been much more excited to read this thread.

― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

haha chris i tht by mark you meant me

"txtng RDBLY rqrs mor tht thn wrtng in fll obv" = not hopkins

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

in case you were in doubt

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes but wow, Hopkins was so fetishistic about getting so much information (& so many consonants) into his tightly packt sonnets that really maybe he would have loved txtspk.

― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

my wife's just gone to the Caribbean...no she didnt travel of her own accord, i ordered her to go

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

i entirely agree that text-speak is intrinsically poetically richer than gravity-bound print-prose

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 13 March 2003 17:19 (twenty-three years ago)

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