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i spent a significant portion of my weekend out, in public, generally operating under the pretense of doing something else (ie. reading, eating, walking, watching) when in reality all i was really doing was waiting for something to happen.

now i don't know what that something is, or even what it could be, but it's been heavy on my mind lately - the remote possibility that a really wonderful or ugly or important encounter might just be around the corner, even when i know from experience that it never actually is.

anyway, can we discuss this, whatever it is? existential bullshit best relegated to university dorm rooms and richard linklater films, the residual afterglow of painful introversion or normal run-of-the-mill romanticisms that occur to everyone on the first truly warm day after winter?

(as for cockfarmers who spout empty crap like 'you can't wait for something to happen, you have to MAKE it happen': i'd like to make you unhappen.)

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

also: the only thing keeping me in that new dave eggers book (it was a gift) right now is the way he's so brazen about his desire to connect with people

it depresses me that this makes it special

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The new Eggers book isn't all that good, though. Although I'll admit it isn't that good in a weird way that I can't quite put my finger on (well, I mean, other than that it feels rushed and phoned-in).

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:47 (twenty-three years ago)

no spoilers i have 70 pages to go

anyway thats not the point really

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

You can't have a spoiler for that book! I don't really want to say why because if you didn't notice it then it might act as a spoiler for you but...

Anyway, reading that book and waiting for something to happen seem to go hand in hand.

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 17 March 2003 05:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I have been entertaining the notion for years now that someone was going to notice my (mostly entirely hidden) stunning talents and offer me the dream job that is so much of a dream job I can't describe it accurately myself. It's never happened. I spent a long time in one job I didn't really like thinking that someone, a client, a friend, who knows, would offer me something better, without my having to look for it. Never happened.

as for cockfarmers who spout empty crap like 'you can't wait for something to happen, you have to MAKE it happen': i'd like to make you unhappen.

While I think this sentence is a classic, and at the risk of unhappening, I'm afraid I have to say it's the truth. You do have to be an active participant in your life. If you're unhappy, you have to change something. The problem there, always, is how, and what. I quit the job and went to school again, then found an entirely different job. But that didn't work either, so I quit and went to school yet again. This is fun, but there are negative consequences like having no money, wondering if you ever will, etc. It can be smaller efforts too, though. You can say, I'm going over there to talk to that girl/boy who attracts me, shy or not. There's a shotgun effect problem though. You will get shot down sometimes, so you have to make the effort even when there's no immediate payoff.

Or is this thread actually about the Dave Eggers book, and I didn't notice?

Skottie, Monday, 17 March 2003 06:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark P - ditto my weekend, almost exactly the same (plus writing of course). I know exactly what the "something" is I want to happen, but...seems like every time I try to reconnect with the world I end up getting kicked in the face. Song of the weekend: "Keep On Runnin'" by Cat Power.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 March 2003 08:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I have this feeling all the time, but as I just discovered how to blow smoke rings, I think I have my answer,

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 17 March 2003 09:01 (twenty-three years ago)

and i just QUIT smoking too

bah

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

and anyway skottie i'm not talking about waiting around as a form of opting out - thats why i think all this 'you have to MAKE it happen' stuff is just so much hooha.

what if you are very much in control of yr life and very proactive about things etc but just wish there was something MORE, some bombshell around the corner or some conversation or some INCIDENT or just something?

i don't exclusively limit this to a person or a job or a lottery win (although i guess any of those could work too)

hell it could be a hit pedestrian

just SOMETHING

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I have spent my life 'making things happen' and have been rather successful. I take the attitude that people are divided between 'making things happen' and 'watching things happen'. Being on either side is relevant as both sets work off each other.

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Come to think of it - the people who are in my life fall on the side of 'making things happen'. Interesting. I like a fast paced life I suppose.

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 14:56 (twenty-three years ago)

samson i think you have my thread confused with this one

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:10 (twenty-three years ago)

No I do not believe I do! My father told me that the world is divided between people who make things happen and wait for things to happen. Failure to not make things happen is not an option. I like making things happen, challenges and I like to inspire people to make things happen. My girl for instance took your attitude towards life - another bored hipster waiting around to 'for things to happen' until I got her on the vantage point that it is much more fun to 'make things happen!' : - D

I do enjoy a challenge. But that is very much within the spectrum of how I grew up.

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

< /smug sermonizing >

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

No because either world view is valid. I just tend to prefer to 'make things happen'. And I like other people around me to be people who 'make things happen'. But either way to view life is valid and acceptable! : - D

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Or you can call me 'psychotically happy and upbeat' as my girl does!! I can't help it. It's all out there for the taking!

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

samson what pretty little boxes you have there!

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I went through this with her! I stand on my grounded boxes! You can be jaded and hip or you can be upbeat and happy. Either way it is fine and right by mine.

It is funny because I was talking to her about this last night - either she can make things happen with her life or complain about her life. I would rather she do something rather than complain. Now is that wrong? I certainly do not think so!

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

What I mean is that she could advance her educate and be, well, ANYTHING. She does not necessarily have to work in retail or be a housewife. She can do anything. The options of life do sometimes overwhelm me!

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

jaysus lord ah-men enough with the tony robbins stuff already

i am neither your girlfriend nor jaded nor depressed nor hip so hands off okay?

consider the possibility that in trying to make me happen you've completely misunderstood the premise

this is NOT about being stuck

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Sounds like you are stuck to me!

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

can someone else talk now please?

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure but I have to run along and 'make something happen' at this moment in time good fellow! : - D

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)


okay look

what i am saying is that i feel like there are times where life wants me to talk and when life wants me to listen

i think i mostly talk at the right times and in the right places

but whenever i feel like i should be listening i never quite know what to be listening FOR

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

well on a personal level i am at something of a juncture, between jobs as it were so not sure what lies ahead for me. this is both exciting and depressing at the same time, esp. as i have not done anything about it in the last 7 days

there's also a 'something about to happen' mood on a global scale which bothers me and actually has me thinking 'look if the US/UK are going to go to war regardless of what i think will they just get it over with ASAP so we can start dealing with the consequences' - sometimes the waiting is too much to bear and you just want things to be over no matter how awry the situation could turn.

am thinking about what my life and the world will be like in 5 and 10 years time...probably much the same, but then go back 5 years and think about 2003 and if you could see it you'd probably say the same despite everything that has happened.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

(also: in hindsight the title of this thread should not have included the word 'always')

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 17 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm not talking about waiting around as a form of opting out

Neither am I. Do you actually buy lottery tickets? Remember, you can't win Lotto if you don't play! But it sounds like you want to. Statistically, of course, no one wins the lottery.

If you hop a plane for Baghdad tonight or become a stringer for Time or BBC World in Afghanistan or work with AIDS victims in South Africa, you'll have a life experience that registers on your meter. A lot of being "proactive" in running your life and indeed bing civilized means avoiding the kinds of experiences you seem to be looking for. Society is set up to mitigate uncertainty, good and bad.

I was trying to resond thoughtfully to your post, but I guess it didn't read that way. The initial statement is set up rather as a dead end. I want this and this and this and not that and if you say this, then you're wrong and why am I not having fun yet? Kind of answers itself.

Skottie, Monday, 17 March 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Tyler Durden to thread.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 17 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Failure to not make things happen is not an option. (I assume the 1st not is a typo) ;-)

It seems that sometimes, people with this attitude ("MAKE things happen") deny the existance of occurances/circumstances beyond their control. My mother's favorite catch phrase is "you create your own reality".

This makes me want to take up kickboxing when I'm healthy enough to do so.

I want a snack. I think I'll go and make that happen.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 17 March 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I am a bad typist! I cannot make that happen for the life of me! : - D

My one university professor said, 'You will seem much smarter if you actually started to type out your thoughts rather than write' but am painfully bad at typing. I am trying to make that happen. Bear with me! : - D

S Samson, Monday, 17 March 2003 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, I have this feeling of waiting for something to happen often. It could be related to general anxiety, ie, I feel better for a while after I have got something out of the way, be it good or bad.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 17 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I get this feeling and I suspect we all do at times. Everyone wants excitement or at least not to be bored all the time. Many things in this world can be explained by the fact that people don't want to be bored. A lot of people, esp. around my age, graduate from college and get a job and then wonder "is that all?" and then move to a big city, go out several times a week, pick up interests, get involved in a 'scene', etc. all in an attempt to find something better, more exciting/important/meaningful.

My way to deal with this impulse is to recognize it and realize that it is self-defeating. No matter how much something does happen, you'll soon tire of these things and will be back to where you started--wanting something to happen. You can see this in the most successful of people--never satisfied. So, I guess I'm advocating a Buddhist outlook--be satisfied w/the basics of life, be happy doing 'nothing' (realize that it is something, in fact) and limit your desires. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to groom my high horse.

oops (Oops), Monday, 17 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Samson is really funny in this thread.

the only times that I wait for something to happen is when I'm bored out of my mind otherwise it never comes into it.

samuel beckett to thread!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 17 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)


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