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its started. whitehouse confirmed.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:47 (twenty-three years ago)

pikapika means blingbling

the hegemon, Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:49 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean Dubya did his cover of "Song 2?"

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:50 (twenty-three years ago)

i tried to tell someone here that and they dissed me. (i work for the nz govt).

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:54 (twenty-three years ago)

cnn.com: bush to address nation at 10:15 est

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm suddenly freaked out - like it really matters for me at the arse end of the world, but you know.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:59 (twenty-three years ago)

staying up late with News 24 on in the background = dud. now i'm off to bed, try to sleep well tonight folks...

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Like they couldn't wait 2 friggin' minutes so I could see the end of my show.

Carey (Carey), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:01 (twenty-three years ago)

most disturbing quotes on TV:

"when the president says go, it's hammertime"

tom brokaw: "what we dont want to do is damage the infrastructure, cuz in a couple of days, we are going to own that country"

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

i so don't want to turn on cnn again right now

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Attn NZers: Emergency response vigils listed here.

hamish (hamish), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:05 (twenty-three years ago)

"when the president says go, it's hammertime"

so incredibly ripe for parody...

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:09 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks hamish might see you there - i'll be the person near the short shaven headed guy w/ the camera pointed in cops' faces. they have been getting parliament ready all day - putting up fences and security men w/ bad tattoos have been looking in people's bags as they lunch on the grass in front of the beehive. (beehive = nz's parliament building, for those interested.)

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:14 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, "the adults" are in charge now.

isn't it ironic

dont'cha think?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I turned on the tv, heard the president but didn't hear him, it's like white noise. People are driving on the highways in Baghdad (about 7:00 AM there I believe). I wonder who they are. God help them.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:20 (twenty-three years ago)

apparently it hasn't started.

it was a strike to hit saddam.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)

A blogger from Baghdad.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Someone may have posted that link before on another thread, I don't remember where I got it.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:24 (twenty-three years ago)

"this will not be a war of half-measures. we will accept no other outcome but victory."

and also

"iraqi has placed weapons with civilians"...but that won't stop us, right?

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:25 (twenty-three years ago)

How about "target of opportunity"... sounds like a sales goal.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:27 (twenty-three years ago)

sweet mother of god.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:31 (twenty-three years ago)

we dont want to damage the infrastructure, cuz in a couple of days, we are going to own that country

ron, i was astonished to hear tom brokaw utter those words, too. i even repeated them to an empty room in disbelief. is anyone else astonished by tom's words? as per the naval officer's reference to mc hammer, that says a lot, or does it?

j.a.e, Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

the official story seems to be that there was an opportunity to get Saddam himself, and that the opportunity was taken. if he is killed and there is confirmation, maybe Iraq's army will give up and the war will end and there will be no more casualties. that is my hope, one that will be allowed to me for another 15 hours or so probably. :-(

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 20 March 2003 03:59 (twenty-three years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000055XFY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Awsome chaki. Horribly, horribly awsome.

jm (jtm), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:03 (twenty-three years ago)

what a fucking shitty shitty shit.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:08 (twenty-three years ago)

hold on a sec - did Tom B. actually say that?? and if so was it delivered in a sarcastic tone?

anyvays, welcome all to the new world order, fasten your seatbelts it's gonna be a bumpy ride

H (Heruy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:13 (twenty-three years ago)

apologise to anyone who found my last post overly glib, actually regretted as soon as i hit submit, but i'm depressed & angry and sarcasm is an easy way of addressing situation

H (Heruy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I am so numb. But there happened to be an indie-rock house party show in my town tonight so I went. I'll tell you something, twenty people in a room and a guy playing nicely crafted sixty-second-long songs about listening to records with your beloved or describing the feeling of crossing from Chicago into Gary, Indiana freakin' hit the spot for me, no shit. I know it's a dumb romantic thing to think but to be together with people, sharing an experience with them -- it's a nice thing when the world is less than nice.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

why would it be sarcastic?

also WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISE, I'M SO INDIGNANT

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I like how Bush made sure to get his dig in at Clinton in the speech. Don't let a war stop the pettiness!

P, Thursday, 20 March 2003 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooo now we have named "operation iraqi freedom," "operation northern watch," etc. I'm sure CNN's design team is hard at work making logos.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:08 (twenty-three years ago)

And new fucking theme songs.

Why I am glad I don't have TV anymore? Accidentally stumbling across that bullshit on top of everything else, that's why.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:10 (twenty-three years ago)

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/world/0303/leaflets/5.leaftlet.front.jpg

I think the designers for the government are the same ones that design the posters for the NYC MTA...

jm (jtm), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:11 (twenty-three years ago)

And new fucking theme songs

Yeah how about that sad mournful trumpet music they used to play before going to commercial, in the months after 9/11. (cue shot of ground zero). It used to bug the shit out of me and depress me at the same time.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:13 (twenty-three years ago)

That's a flyer so obviously and immediately able to be parodied with Our President and somebody in deep financial shit (like friends of mine who deserve a hell of a lot better) that I can't even gleefully point it out, I just have to shrug at the obviousness and wait for someone else who thinks they've discovered something really and truly 'ironic' in it to play it up while I bash my head against a wall, metaphorically speaking.

Like I said back in fall 2001, we're living in Terry Gilliam's Brazil and I feel some days like the world is now existing to put down everyone's collective intelligence.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Wasn't that Barber's Adagio for strings?

CNN is grotesque. I mean fucking grotesque. Today at lunch the restaurant had it tuned in and the only thing on were (a) human interest stories about lonely soldiers and (b) cool computer graphics featuring hot-rockin' tanks and fighter jets. They really do their best to render the enemy a total abstraction.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)

YET I CANT STOP WATCHING

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Well I may head to Kedzie Ave to watch Al Jazeera tomorrow. I imagine the restaurants who get it will have crowds.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)

what's up with losing the last 5 min of angel with special guest alison hannigan?

and: why are all of the newscasters using 'we' when talking about the us army?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Posted this to the wrong thread:


Hussein just read a speech on Iraqi TV (which I've discovered renders parody redundant) and the CNN instant-translator was close to incoherent: "Zionist...women...fall...mullahs...will...be freedom...Iraq people! Morning .... infidels.... Go!"

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Mary - presumably because they're broadcasting on American networks. If you want news with a non-American bias watch a non-American network.

P, Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:25 (twenty-three years ago)

But I can't understand what they're saying on Al Jazeera!

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Educate yourself

P, Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:43 (twenty-three years ago)

"Body English" goes a long way.

hstencil, Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:45 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean Dubya did his cover of "Song 2?"

If only it wasn't so easy to picture this in my head as fuckin' Tomahawk missiles turned Baghdadians into splatter-paint.

:( to the google power

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:47 (twenty-three years ago)

looks like a hail mary on first down. get ready for a long 'delay of game'

two competing instincts: an instinct for drama—this is a war and also it's on TV, i want to see difficulty and struggling, i want comeuppance for ALL bullies; then there's the instinct for it to just be over, and quickly, with as little death and chaos and pulverizing grief as possible. but the instinct for drama nags at me. why? the underdog isn't anybody to root for. do i want a "good story" that badly, counter to all my beliefs?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 March 2003 06:54 (twenty-three years ago)

(beliefs like "pulverizing grief should be kept to a minimum" i mean)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 March 2003 07:08 (twenty-three years ago)

At least two ILXorites (behind the anarchist dude) (Are you in those photo Clare?) protesting a few hours ago:

hamish (hamish), Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Are they the blue triangle and the green circle?

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 March 2003 12:27 (twenty-three years ago)

CNN.com:"U.S. military officials confirm there are oil well fires in southern Iraq, near Kuwaiti border"

oops (Oops), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

The blog is by an Iraqi in Iraq - I've been following it for a while.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)

http://a.abcnews.com/media/World/images/saddams_030320_n.jpg

Which one is Saddam?

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 20 March 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Seems to be a bit of action in Baghdad, and that blog is definitely not available anymore now.

Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I seriously have been considering the (possibly paranoid conspiracist stylee) theory that Saddam Hussein doesn't even actually EXIST.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

i am fairly certain that hussein exists. but i am not so sure about osama /bin/laden.

j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

dubya in quixotic quest shockah!

hstencil, Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

>I seriously have been considering the (possibly paranoid conspiracist stylee) theory that Saddam Hussein doesn't even actually EXIST.

Some intelligence group analyzed all the photos/videos of Saddam Hussein post-Gulf-War-I and determined that EVERY public appearance by Saddam was actually a double.

fletrejet, Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a protest at the federal building across from my work... mostly high school kids who are about to get arrested when the cops come and tell them to get out of the street. I applaud their effort though!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Ehhhh... great... now we have this guy to worry about too.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

did any nzers see kim hill get crucified by john pilger last night? i think it was probably the worst moment in her life. i am fuckin sick of the deeply but unintentionally ironic comments about sadam's propaganda campaign over the last 30 years. we don't have any alternative media here in nz - except one or two websites.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Best moment from watching the little protest outside my window was when this dude in a brown suit came out of the federal building and started flicking off the high school kids and all the people honking as he walked down the street. Boy was he angry. Second best moment was the high school kids adapting "Who Let the Dogs Out" to a chant which went something like...

"Who is the real terrorist? BUSH... BUSH BUSH... BUSHBUSH"

God love those kids.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

It's astonishing how little information the major news sources have at this time.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:31 (twenty-three years ago)

The blog is still working for me. This is the latest:


:: Thursday, March 20, 2003 ::

the all clear siren just went on.
The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house, hotel pax was a good idea. we have two safe rooms one with "international media" and the other with the Iraqi TV on. every body is waitingwaitingwaiting. phones are still ok, we called around the city a moment ago to check on friends. Information is what they need. Iraqi TV says nothing, shows nothing. what good are patriotic songs when bombs are dropping
around 6:30 my uncle went out to get bread, he said that all the streets going to the main arterial roads are controlled by Ba'ath people. not curfew but you have to have a reason to leave your neighborhood, and the bakeries are, by instruction of the Party, seeling only a limited amount of bread to each customer. he also says that near the main roads all the yet unfinished houses have been taken by party or army people.

:: salam 10:33 PM [+] ::

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Amateurist--Are you really surprised?

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm surprised that I'm surprised!

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

two competing instincts: an instinct for drama—this is a war and also it's on TV, i want to see difficulty and struggling, i want comeuppance for ALL bullies; then there's the instinct for it to just be over, and quickly, with as little death and chaos and pulverizing grief as possible. but the instinct for drama nags at me. why? the underdog isn't anybody to root for. do i want a "good story" that badly, counter to all my beliefs?

Tracer I'm watching this happen to Journos all around me too. When those missiles hit Baghdad one of them (usually a decent guy) was running up to the "live feed" pointing and muttering exitedly like it was an extremely exciting football game.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Your suprise-induced surprise doesn't surprise me.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish I knew why I posted that.

slutsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm continuously surprised that I'm surprised.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

that's surprising

oops (Oops), Thursday, 20 March 2003 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Clare - yes. The moments where the camera zoomed in for close-ups of her increasingly uncontained facial tics were v.odd.

Ess Kay (esskay), Thursday, 20 March 2003 22:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to say it...

All this... "this is only a taste"..."you ain't seen nothing yet" talk from the Bush admin is doing my fucking head in! It is absolutely bloody appalling.

Honestly, how have we all just let this happen? Get out on the streets and protest, people!

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

Venga, Thursday, 20 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah! It'll work...just like how it stopped the war from starting
/cynic

oops (Oops), Thursday, 20 March 2003 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)

If you bring ponies to the protest, it'd work better. Everyone likes ponies.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 20 March 2003 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)

The moments where the camera zoomed in for close-ups of her increasingly uncontained facial tics were v.odd.

yeah and she was totally back against the wall and i know she just wanted to say she thinks he rocks but couldn't - well i think she wanted to say that cause she always sounds quite pro-palestine when there are israel/palestine debates.

i saw her at the supermarket - throndon new world - yesterday and she looked really super stressed - like way more than when you usually see her there (she always wears sunglasses cause she is upset by the asymmetry of her face - another reason why she screws it up (she describes it as 'disturbing asymmertrical')) - and i thought that maybe 'face to face' isn't live and that she'd already done it and was feeling like shit. she's way too brown/orange in person, btw. i also thought it may not be live cause they made no express reference to the beginning of the 'war' and cause pilger kept saying, 'you better transmit this as i've said it'. as a kim hill fan (almost erstwhile, i have to say) i was pretty shocked by her ineptness and shallow apprehension - i thought everyone talks about the breadth of her knowledge but no one ever mentions the depth - which was manifestly lacking in that interview - like even i felt i knew more...but of course she has to speak for tvnz to a point, which has to speak for the govt - especially now they have that charter in place. mind you, helen clark's been really outspoken about the invasion calling it a crime etc.

pilger got his point across and i line up on his side - it was just unfortunate that she couldn't chum up to him/ask intelligent rather than fuzzy broadstroke questions. showed her up as needing to circle her interviewee prey for a while before she attacks and that that is really her only m.o and cause there was no room for that m.o. last night she was stuffed.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Friday, 21 March 2003 00:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought he acted as was expected - like an arrogant asshole with a a bad temper. For the benefit of foreigners John Pilger had a half hour tv interview about the war which was frequently interrupted with petty name-calling and digs at the interviewer's ability as a journalist and her "moral compass". They finished the interview by yelling at each other for wasting each others time with even having the interview, seemingly forgetting the audience who mostly would've found the non-tantrum bits enlightening. As Clare said the interviewer wasn't as well-prepared as she should've been but he also seemed to be getting at her for doing normal journalist stuff (like acting like you disagree with everyone to make the interviewee rationalise everything they say). Not every journalist has the luxury of being able to make propaganda for a living. Pilger needs to get a good nights sleep.

but of course she has to speak for tvnz to a point, which has to speak for the govt - especially now they have that charter in place

I don't have a tv so I don't know how the charter is working but I really doubt that to be the case (despite TV3's ridiculous ads). It certainly hasn't been the case for National Radio.

hamish (hamish), Friday, 21 March 2003 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn i'm still getting "Invalid URL" trying to get to that blog. I think you people are making it up.

hamish (hamish), Friday, 21 March 2003 00:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Russell Brown's views on the interview etc. Shit the same blog is linked from there too. I'm starting to think my ISP has blocked it.

hamish (hamish), Friday, 21 March 2003 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

hamish - the charter thing doesn't wk in the kim hill context at all (or any others really) and i was being glib - i don't watch tv3(partly cause i FUCKIN hate that creep john campbell - his enthusiasm is idiotic and thank g-d he's not on natrad anymore - my saturday hangovers are bad enuf without his musings - he sounds like an ad for kiwiland whenever he opens his fuckin ugly-ugly gob) but i do know about those ads. don't you think pilger hits the rights notes sometimes? i'm really curious about yr views re him.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Friday, 21 March 2003 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually i haven't seen the TV3 ads either (only read the transcript). I don't have anything interesting to say about Pilger; I agree with almost everything he says but I wouldn't be to stuck in a lift with him. His documentaries are always interesting but are made artlessly and they have tacky backing music.

hamish (hamish), Friday, 21 March 2003 01:34 (twenty-three years ago)

i am disturbed that i keep reading "kim hill" as "kill him"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 21 March 2003 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i wouldn't wanna be in a lift w/ him either - in fact i'd rather be in a lift w/ kim hill than him. he's a moral high grounder but he is exact, which is always to be admired and which - at least last night -kim hill was not. i think making documentaries that deal with the subjects his do artfully might somehow diminish the content.

on a lighter note: there's an exhibition opening at photospace on courtney place tonight at 5pm and rumour is that the vino will be good.

i am disturbed that i keep reading "kim hill" as "kill him" she generally does too; but not this time.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Friday, 21 March 2003 01:51 (twenty-three years ago)

i think making documentaries that deal with the subjects his do artfully might somehow diminish the content.

Not necessarily. If he stopped using backing music to tell people how to react, and if his voice-overs weren't so heavy-handed, and if he didn't finish them with his incredibly obvious conclusions the films would be much more valuable.

there's an exhibition opening at photospace on courtney place tonight at 5pm and rumour is that the vino will be good.

Neato! Might see you there.

hamish (hamish), Friday, 21 March 2003 02:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I posted this on another thread but since people are mentioning problems reaching the Iraqi blog here as well I'll repeat it here: the underscore in the hostname means it is literally an "invalid URL" according to the original specifications for characters allowed in hostnames. Some ISPs' gateways are very strictly (arguably too strictly, since this is becoming more and more common, especially at sites like blogspot and tripod which allow people to choose their own personalised subdomain) configured and won't allow this.

Try using http://www.anonymizer.com/ to view it -- some of the images may fail to load but it should work.

Frazer, Friday, 21 March 2003 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Phew - it was all a joke. Those guys!

http://rarara.v21hosting.co.uk/photos/pic23397.jpg

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 21 March 2003 13:57 (twenty-three years ago)

huh. thanx, N., for posting that funny-ish picture ...which, the more i look at it, appears... gradually more... and more ...disgusting

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 21 March 2003 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Y'know they're both Freemasons.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 21 March 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Today's Iraqi blog, for those of you who can't seem to get it:

as usual Diane comes to the rescue
IS SALAM PAX REAL?
please stop sending emails asking if I were for real, don't belive it? then don't read it.
I am not anybody's propaganda ploy, well except my own.
2 more hours untill the B52's get to Iraq.
:: salam 6:05 PM [+] ::
...

The most disturbing news today has come from Al-Jazeera, they said that nine B52 bombers have left the airfield in Britain and flying “presumably” towards Iraq, as if they would be doing a spin around the block. Anyway they have 6 hours to get here.
Last night was very quiet in Baghdad. Today in the morning I went out to get bread and groceries. There were no Ba’ath party people stopping us from leaving the area where we live, this apparently happens after the evening prayers. But they are still everywhere. The streets are empty only bakeries are open and some grocery shops charging 4 times the normal prices, while I was buying bread a police car stopped in front of the bakery and asked the baker if they had enough flour and asked when they opened; the baker told me that they have been informed that they must open their shops and they get flour delivered to them daily. Groceries, meat and dairy products are a different story. One dairy product company seems to be still operating, not state owned, and their cars were going around the city distributing butter, cheese and yoghurt to any open markets. Meat is not safe to buy because you wouldn’t know from where and how it got to the shops. Anyway we bought fresh tomatoes and zucchini for 1000 dinar a kilo which would normally be 250. and most amazingly the garbage car came around.
The Iraqi Satellite Channel is not broadcasting anymore. The second youth TV channel (it shows Egyptian soaps in the morning and sports afterwards) also stopped transmitting. This leaves two channels: Iraq TV and Shabab (youth) TV. They are still full of patriotic songs and useless “news”, they love the French here. We also saw the latest Sahaf show on Al-Jazeera and Iraq TV, and the most distressing minister of Interior affairs with his guns. Freaks. Hurling abuse at the world is the only thing left for them to do.
On BBC we are watching scenes of Iraqis surrendering. My youngest cousin was muttering “what shame” to himself, yes it is better for them to do that but still seeing them carrying that white flag makes something deep inside you cringe.
we sit infront of the TV with the mao of Iraq on our laps trying to figure out what is going on in the south.
:: salam 3:13 PM [+] ::

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 21 March 2003 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

"mao of Iraq" = most intriguing typo ever

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 21 March 2003 15:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I did a double-take on that one too.

slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 21 March 2003 16:02 (twenty-three years ago)

At least two ILXors in these photos taken a few hours ago. I'm getting pretty sick of these things but i don't have anywhere better to be. I should get a job. In fact someone yelled "Get a job" at us but its Saturday so how did he know I didn't have a job? Oh of course I'm in a protest.
Evidently the 'W' in the counter-protestor's "Good on you W." placard did not stand for Wellington but apparently the American president's middle initial. When did everyone stop calling him Junior?
This protest had a synth pop singer instead of last week's folk singers doing Beatles' songs so I guess we'll be up to date in a couple of weeeks time (but we have to endure grunge somehere in the middle).

hamish (hamish), Saturday, 22 March 2003 11:44 (twenty-three years ago)

You guys really believe that this blog is an Iraqi in Iraq who is not a propaganda tool of some sort? I thought I was gullible.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:23 (twenty-three years ago)


Is it absolutely inconceivable that somone in Iraq could have access to the internet? Is writing about the price of zuccini 'propaganda'? Jesus, some people really ARE gullible..

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:44 (twenty-three years ago)

No, it's not absolutely inconceivable. But people here seem to be treating it as totally creditable.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 22 March 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Is the Baghdad Blogger for real?

slutsky (slutsky), Saturday, 22 March 2003 15:58 (twenty-three years ago)

This is becoming a horror show, before our eyes. The "embedded" reporters sound increasingly freaked out.

It's horrible to watch this. My reaction is something far beyond cynicism, closer to horror--as much as I'm inclined to note that this is the sort of thing that anyone could have predicted.

What a terrible mess.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 March 2003 07:17 (twenty-three years ago)

For those who cannot view the Baghdad blog because of the underscore problem, there is now a mirror of the site at:

dearraed.blogspot.com

Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't figure out why he'd be a propaganda tool when he's been a critic of both sides.

Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:39 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=19870

j0e (j0e), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)


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