Rowdy schoolkid anti-war protesters: classic or dud?

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Classic, obviously.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

We'd be so fucked without them.

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,918039,00.html

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Obviously their efforts are extrodinarily fruitful.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-three years ago)

A special front-line report from our war correspondent in central London

A sun-drenched Parliament Square was the scene of violent clashes between schoolchildren and police this afternoon as the anti-war movement responded to the US-led coalition's first strikes against Iraq.

Office workers, tourists and drunks were left stranded as hundreds of truanting teenagers brought surrounding streets to a standstill with a wave of inspired sit-down protests. However, what started out peacefully soon led to angry confrontations when police tried to move the protestors, forcing them and confused bystanders into the middle of the square.

At least five teenagers were arrested and two injured as police moved in. One protestor told me that he had seen police "prodding" protestors "with their truncheons".

Another claimed that he had been verbally abused by one officer.

"He called me a little shit," said 16 year old Darren Spanner from Ealing. "Wait till I tell my parents."

The protestors, mainly grammar school pupils, remained defiant in the face of the overwhelming police presence.

"Fuck 'em," one told me. "They're just pigs, innit?"

Like many "not good enough to go to Iraq or Washington" correspondents trapped in the middle of Parliament Square, I was left wrestling with illicit thoughts brought on by the abundance of 16 year old nymphets that littered the scene.

"This place is just crawling with jailbait," John Piennar said to me. "Sod this journalism shit, I'm going to become a teacher."

Brian Beaver
Associated Press
Central London

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 20 March 2003 17:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone see the Central News story of that woman who got kicked in the face by a teeny protestor/useful fool, and had to be taken to hospital all because she aired her disagreement to the """peace""" movement? 'Classic'. 'obv'.

DavidM (DavidM), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I posted this in that "It's Started" thread but it belongs here.... Classic of course! (But I think the impending rain combined with boredom is gonna make the kids go home soon.)

Best moment from watching the little protest outside my window was when this dude in a brown suit came out of the federal building and started flicking off the high school kids and all the people honking as he walked down the street. Boy was he angry. Second best moment was the high school kids adapting "Who Let the Dogs Out" to a chant which went something like...

"Who is the real terrorist? BUSH... BUSH BUSH... BUSHBUSH"

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Remember how smart you were ten years ago? Now half that and that's the level of thought going on there

dave q, Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Well at least they're being creative. I'm getting sick of hearing "No blood for oil!"

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

"Halve"! fuck maybe I should join them

dave q, Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

They've moved up the street but left behind lots of stuff written in chalk in the street. My favorite is the big

WAR SUX!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw the great "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity" the other day.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

fighting for oil is like screwing for an orgasm

dave q, Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

This is the funniest thing I've seen so far in coverage of U.S. protests:

"Not every demonstrator opposed the military action. While many students at Brown University in Providence, R.I., held signs denouncing war, Alec O'Neill stood at the edge of the crowd, wearing a handmade T-shirt that read, 'I am threatened by Iraq.' On the back were the words 'Regime change now.'

"We are taking on a real and present threat," said O'Neill, 21, of Red Hook, N.Y.

yeah, the bucolic Hudson Valley is a MAJOR Scud target, bro. I think Saddam's got the Xtramart or the Holy Cow Ice Cream stand on the "priority targets" list.

hstencil, Thursday, 20 March 2003 21:54 (twenty-three years ago)

What was classic was the interview on 5Live with some Eton schoolboys who had walked out of lessons to join the protests,
"we're here to, like, point out it's not in our name and, like, is totally out of order, yah? Bush and Blair are waging an illegal and immoral war and should be tried for war crimes"
If I was the parent paying for their education I would be a mite concerned by their thought process.
And I don't really get this 'Not in my Name' slogan. I have to wonder what is in their name, if not liberation? Public beheadings of women suspected of being prostitutes? Tongues cut out of anyone willing to blow the whistle on the wherabouts of Saddam's WMD (which of course, he doesn't have, eh peaceniks? Whoops, there goes another Scud missle that you insisted he didn't have and with it your argument) A hands-off approach to a fascist regime?
The answer is, I have to assume, yes. Okay, how about we do it in the name of the Iraqi people - remember them?

The immensely smug, false certainty of the protestors - Saddam Hussain's very own "useful fools" - knows no bounds it seems. Why do they consistantly insist that the majority of the British people are against the war when they flat out are not? And their unshakeable belief that they hold the moral high ground is also utterly misplaced.

The protestors today - toffs, skivers, middle-class students and coffee shop pseudo-intellectuals - seem to think they are of a mind with those around the world protesting (including the anti-Semites in Paris and the pro-Stalin mob in Moscow), but the only thing they all share is their faith in the nu-religion of rabid, all-consuming and un-wavering anti-Bush/Americanism. This protest is based on personalities. If it wasn't Bush'n'Blair leading the campaign, if it was by whoever they do respect - I dunno, the ghost of Bill fucking Hicks or Noam Chumpsky or Howard Marks or someone - then I have no doubt that it would be half the size. It's a middle-class, hipster lifestyle pose more than anything of substance.
Orwell was right, it is only the working class that are consistant in their opposition to fascism.

DavidM (DavidM), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Why do they consistantly insist that the majority of the British people are against the war when they flat out are not?

Why do you insist that they are not when they flat out are?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

schoolkid kicks pro-war woman = schoolkid who has adopted the bush-blair method of dealing with ppl who he can't convince

you got yr bombing of bagdad david, it's all turning out exactly the way you wanted, why are you still so aggressively anxious abt the opinions of ppl who disagree with you? if we're losing the argument so massively, why d'you care?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 21 March 2003 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Well put Mark. If you know you're always right and Heaven-bound why not just quietly gloat in the corner about it? Why do you have to ram it down everybody else's neck?

It is always the 'thems' that have 'useful fools' 'Our' U.F's are called loyal, realistic, or some such euphemism. It's crap. Hopefully one good thing about the fact that it's started is that now all the mindless banal propoganda and name-calling and stereotyping and sandpit insults and World Wrestling Federation bullshit ON BOTH SIDES will be reduced to the load of pathetic hot air it all is.

Fred Nerk, Friday, 21 March 2003 00:59 (twenty-three years ago)

David, you missed your moment. About 10 years ago a local (Australian) TV comedian noted that that particular year wasn't dedicated to anything in particular like women, the child, the enviromnment, the indigenous gay whales (thought by using one of your cliches I could suck you into paying attention) or whatever, so he dedicated the year himself and declared 1991 (or thereabouts whatever year it was) as The Year of the Patronising Bastard.

Fred Nerk, Friday, 21 March 2003 09:54 (twenty-three years ago)

go rowdy schoolkids!!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 21 March 2003 10:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the rowdy schoolkids are great and I hope they protest abt other issues that concern them, besides war. It's what we need, after all these years when many ppl have complained that kids are apathetic and don't care abt politics. This is the strongest refuting of that complaint we've had. The political parties should certainly see it as a wake-up call, yes, ppl are interested in politics, just not joining *them*. Whether they change in the light of that remains to be seen, but they ignore it at their peril.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 21 March 2003 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I kept thinking how great it was that there was such a spirit of fun and so many peace-loving young women had decided to dress up as schoolgirls to protest. Ummmm, if I was Catholic, would I go to hell for thinking that?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 21 March 2003 10:25 (twenty-three years ago)

"Ummmm, if I was Catholic, would I go to hell for thinking that?"

Ummm, if you are Catholic, you go to hell period. Hard cack.

Rev Ian, Friday, 21 March 2003 10:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Call me a cynic if you will but how many of the kids really are engaged in the issues and how many see it as an exciting way to bunk off of school and get a bit rowdy. I would rather they were in school learning about the issues, discussing it and going on the march at the weekend in their own time.

But then I got the day off work yesterday cos all the students decided to close us down for the day.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 21 March 2003 11:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder what all the die-hard Tory parents are doing with their kids? Do they have to go into school regardless?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 March 2003 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

in school learning about the issues
aw, c'mon Pete, did you really learn abt the issues at school? Besides, most schools are run by the government, so the National Curriculum is hardly going to contain stuff that the government doesn't want us to think abt - we have to educate ourselves for that.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 21 March 2003 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Matt, of course the kids went in to school...but did they register, or did they BUNK FOR PEACE?

suzy (suzy), Friday, 21 March 2003 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Protesting *is* learning about the issues, Pete. Not all knowledge comes out of books or TV or playstation (except playstation).

mark s (mark s), Friday, 21 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Besides school has been transformed into an endless stressful nightmare scramble for marks which by age 10 has set in stone yr entire career future: schoolkids have absolutely NO reason to love the Blair govt, which has totally acquiesced in the business-driven wrecking of school as a place where you can learn to learn, so these protests are pure poetic justice.

mark s (mark s), Friday, 21 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark S owns this entire bitch, y'all.

Venga, Friday, 21 March 2003 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)

heheh a well-known improv vocalist told me last night that his 15-yr-old daughter was there, so obv CLASSIQUE! ;-)

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 21 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I got mauled down at Westminster yesterday. A choice moment = after a huge crowd sang "who dropped the..." to the police line a gang of asian kids who started their own chant in the silence "Who sux George Bush's cock, it is Ton-y Blair". The words weren't funny in themselves, rather that they didn't really rhyme/fit but they just kept shouting till it did.

nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 21 March 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Darren Spanner!

You poor kid.

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 21 March 2003 13:45 (twenty-three years ago)


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