Shock and awe - Iraq, part two

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Got this from CNN. About 30 minutes ago, Wolf Blitzer interviewed an independent journalist on the scene in Baghdad - May Ling Walsh. She told him that the government buidlings targeted are NOT set off from residential communities, and apparently residential communities HAVE been hit and that Iraqis have taken to the streets of Baghdad to demonstrate -- even as more bombs fell around them.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 21 March 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw that a bit ago, before I turned the TV off. this is horrifying.

― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 21 March 2003 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder how long before Rumsfeld threatens her with a beatdown for seditious reporting, a la Alan Simpson v Peter Arnett.

― Benjamin, Friday, 21 March 2003 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.dodccrp.org/shockIndex.html

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Shit j-dub! Thanks 4 that link.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 21 March 2003 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Congratulations, people who are still living in Baghdad - you are dumber than I can possibly imagine. I advise all of you to park your car in front of the nearest presidential palace and take a nap in it as a show of support for Saddam Hussein.

Of course, please, nobody consider that an independent journalist might have motives of their own. That is simply absurd.

― Millar (Millar), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh come off it Millar. You and I know those people don't have cars!

: )

― jm (jtm), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

They've got a helluva lot of oil, tho.

― hstencil, Friday, 21 March 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

And there's lots of contracts to be he had! Get in line early!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

guys, kerry started this thread particularly for gathering information. i know that "reporting" things naturally leads to discussing them, but try to respect it.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

(i.e. don't start fighting! we've got a WHOLE other thread for that.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't insult me, Millar - I'm only reporting what I'm hearing. I said so on the other thread. I'm trying to confirm what is and isn't true.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It's okay if people want to make one-line comments and discuss things a little - I'd just rather that the whole thread not get sidetracked.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

This is from the Guardian site:

In other developments, Turkey said its troops would enter northern Iraq to prevent an influx of refugees across its borders - a move that is likely to cause a major headache for the coalition.

Turkey gave no date for such an incursion and a US official said Washington had not agreed to it, despite an accord with Ankara being finally reached earlier in the day for allowing US warplanes into its airspace.

The foreign minister, Abdullah Gul, told reporters that Turkish troops would also enter the Iraqi Kurdish enclave to prevent "terrorist activity". He insisted Turkey had no designs on Iraqi territory despite the country making claims on oil fields and land in the area in the past.

Now that does open up a really unpleasant scenario, doesn't it? No incoming Iraqi governement is going to accept a Turkish military presence in the North of the country, and the Turkish government has been pursuing a policy of total repression (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/14/1047583703978.html)in the Southeast of the country.

― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:39 (twenty-three years ago)

AP is saying the US is asking other countries to expel Iraqi diplomats, but many countries are refusing. Kinda weird. (no link but I have AP feed in my office)

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Urg. Lotsa violence in Arab countries. Riots and a few dead in Yemen. More riots in Egypt, Jordan.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, this is funny. I'm not supposed to steal AP copy but here:

(London-AP) -- President Bush's address at the start of the war was seen nationwide.
But T-V viewers in Britain and around the world got to see even more -- and now a British broadcaster is apologizing.
B-B-C World showed as much as a minute of Bush having his hair styled and makeup applied just before he went on television.
The Washington Post says the video also showed the president squirming in his chair and practicing reading from a TelePrompTer. The video was silent.
A B-B-C spokesman says technicians put the video on air accidentally, and then had trouble switching away from it. He says they switched away as soon as they could.
He says the B-B-C is ``very sorry,'' and the network will not use the footage again.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

The reason for expelling Iraqi embassy staff is because they are all potential spies and terrorists, I'm not even remotely kidding.

― Millar (Millar), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Millar, those people who are so dumb as to have stayed in Baghdad are *gasp* in their own homes. And why is it that these people are not safe in their own homes? Let's blame Saddam Hussein!

― Aimless, Saturday, 22 March 2003 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

>The reason for expelling Iraqi embassy staff is because they are all >potential spies and terrorists, I'm not even remotely kidding.

Yeah, that's right. In fact that's what the Iranians said about the US hostages 25 years ago.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 22 March 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

There are likely to be many questions about civilian casualties in the coming days/weeks/etc.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net seems to offer a reliable compendium of these figures as they can be verified.

― Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Saturday, 22 March 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

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