"As you all know, France has pursued a policy recently which has beenhighly detrimental to the national security of the US and the safety of everyday Americans. They endanger our men and women in uniform and lend legitimacy to violent anti-American acts against civilians. All of this is apparently because they wish to protect their oil and weapons contracts with Saddam Hussein. For money.
For those who wish to hit the French where it apparently counts, youmight want to adjust your buying habits to avoid purchasing Frenchproducts. Below you will find a list (not necessarily complete) ofproducts and companies which are French owned or produced in France.
FRENCH PRODUCT LIST (Please forward this list)
Air Liquide, Alcatel, Allegra (allergy medication), Aqualung(including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest),AXA Advisors Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas), Beneteau(boats), BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin), BIC (razors, pens andlighters), Biotherm (cosmetics), Black Bush, Bollinger (champagne),Car & Driver Magazine, Cartier, Chanel, Cheese labeled "Product ofFrance", Chivas Regal (scotch), Christian Dior, Christian Lacroix,Club Med (vacations), Culligan (owned by Vivendi), Daniel Cremieux,Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods), DKNY, Dom Perignon, DurandCrystal, Elle Magazine, Essilor Optical Products, Evian bottledwater, Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqioil fields), First Hawaiian Bank, George Magazine, Givenchy,Glenlivet (scotch), Hachette Filipacchi New Media, Hennessy,Houghton Mifflin (books), Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricardsince 1989), Jameson (whiskey), Jerry Springer (talk show) Krups(coffee and cappuccino makers), Lancome, Le Creuset (cookware),L'Oreal (health and beauty products), Louis Vuitton, MagellanNavigational Equipment, Marie Claire, Martel Cognac, Maybelline,Méphisto (shoes and clothes), Michelin (tires and auto parts),Mikasa (crystal and glass), Moet (champagne), Motel 6, MotownRecords, MP3.com, Mumms (champagne), Nissan (cars; majority ownedby Renault), Nivea, Normany Butter, Ondeo/Nalco Water Treatement,Parents Magazine, Peugeot (automobiles), Perrier Sparkling Water,Pierre Cardin, Playstation Magazine, ProScan (owned by ThomsonElectronics, France), Publicis Group (including Saatchi & SaatchiAdvertising), RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by ThomsonElectronics), Red Magazine, Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group inFrance), Renault (automobiles), Road & Track Magazine, Roquefortcheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France), Rowenta (toasters,irons, coffee makers, etc,), Royal Canadian, Salomon (skis),Seagram's Gin, Sierra Software and Computer Games, Sitram Cookware,Smart & Final, Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor), Sparkletts (water,owned by Danone), Spencer Gifts, Sundance Channel, Taylor Made(golf), Technicolor, T-Fal (kitchenware), Total gas stations,UbiSoft (computer games), Uniroyal, Universal Studios (music,movies and amusement parks; owned by Vivendi-Universal), USFilter,Veuve Clicquot Champagne, Vittel, VIVENDI-SEAGRAM, Wild Turkey(bourbon), Wine and Champagne labeled "Product of France", Woman'sDay Magazine, Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percentstake), Yves Saint Laurent, Yves Rocher, Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
Feel free to forward this list and make contributions to it."
... so I forward this list here and my contribution to this effort is to buy more french product. But I won't go as far as watch Jerry Springer. Sorry!
― the hegemon, Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)
I like this
― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)
Death to Roger Wilco! Death to Leisure Suit Larry! Death to Freddy Pharkas, Frontier Pharmacist!
― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 22 March 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)
Why assume it is a "hick"? There are plenty of right-wing loons that went to Yale, Harvard, etc.
― Nicole (Nicole), Saturday, 22 March 2003 15:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Saturday, 22 March 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)
(mention of leisure suit larry did make me larf)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)
I guess I'm not suppose to get that Temptations box set I wanted to get.
― A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 22 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Saturday, 22 March 2003 16:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 22 March 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 22 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Saturday, 22 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 22 March 2003 20:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 22 March 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)
"I drink Bordeaux and I vote."
― hstencil, Saturday, 22 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-three years ago)
Who needs free speech, when you can kiss up to the government, instead?
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:02 (twenty-three years ago)
"He has behaved like a Paris harlot."
It's quite touching that they got a man from the year 1910 to write the piece, as well.
― Lord Byron Lived Here, Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:11 (twenty-three years ago)
for the record I'll quote a collegue in ideology :"I don't believe either France or the USA actually exist except as collective delusions (albeit remarkably well-funded delusions)."and we're laughing and it doesn't mean it's funny
― the hegemon, Sunday, 23 March 2003 03:30 (twenty-three years ago)
anyway, i think that this list is great ... for anti-war/anti-Bush/anti-wingnut folks to use to conspicuously purchase French products!
― Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 March 2003 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 March 2003 04:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 23 March 2003 04:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 March 2003 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― the hegemon, Sunday, 23 March 2003 07:13 (twenty-three years ago)
I can tell you where I buy Libé in New York. Go to the World Trade Center. You can get special photocopied editions daily in the Borders there, and also in a newsagent in the basement mall. I like the World Trade Center, it's one of the few truly cosmopolitan places in NYC. I think only domestic isolationists would benefit if some day this 'tower of Babel' should somehow be wiped off the face of the earth.
― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 23 March 2003 08:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 23 March 2003 08:15 (twenty-three years ago)
This I belive is bullshit. Anyone who has read Le Canard Enchainé or seem Les Grands Guignols knows this to be true.
If it is in the french legal code then one must appreciate how seriously most french people take daft de Gaulle era laws like this, or in fact the law in general.
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 23 March 2003 08:33 (twenty-three years ago)
There are laws in France?
― Pepi LePew, Sunday, 23 March 2003 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tommy Lane, Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)
Geographic economic boycotts make no sense. Anyway, I thought the war (which also makes no sense) was about preserving the American birthright to buy whatever the hell you want, from whomever you want, whenever you want. Maybe the boycott should just be on buying less stuff, period.
There are plenty of hicks at Yale and Harvard.
― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 30 March 2003 21:35 (twenty-three years ago)
No more PHANTASMAGORIA :(
― Mandee, Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)
they own wild turkey = they are my godz
― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 30 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:21 (twenty-three years ago)
yay! ("Street Life")
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:25 (twenty-three years ago)
Well, when are we going to boycott Iraqi products (aren't they the ones we're at war with?)?
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:29 (twenty-three years ago)
everything there is true, except the word "France" is mispelled. I believe it's correctly: "George W. Bush"
As you all know, George W. Bush has pursued a policy recently which has beenhighly detrimental to the national security of the US and the safety of everyday Americans. They endanger our men and women in uniform and lend legitimacy to violent anti-American acts against civilians. All of this is apparently because they wish to protect their oil and weapons contracts with Saddam Hussein. For money.
yup, that's better
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:40 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 31 March 2003 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 31 March 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dave Young, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)
That is the essence of democracy, right there. Forget "if you hate the leadership so much vote 'em out." Just leave.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 13:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 14:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:18 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 09:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― justice, Friday, 4 April 2003 23:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:30 (twenty-three years ago)
Signs directing mourners to Ayoub's house called him a martyr. A large editorial cartoon in the front window showed him wearing a bulletproof vest with the word "press" written on it. His microphone is a candle. Menacing bats, with the words "U.S. Army," flutter around his head.
His father, Naim Ayoub, came to the street outside the tent where the men were gathered, and said he did not understand how the United States could bring freedom and justice with tanks and warplanes.
"My son did not carry a machine gun in his hand," he said tearfully. "Where is your conscience, Americans?"
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)
"In September 1988, however -- a month after the war had ended -- the State Department abruptly, and in what many viewed as a sensational manner, condemned Iraq for allegedly using chemicals against its Kurdish population. The incident cannot be understood without some background of Iraq's relations with the Kurds. It is beyond the scope of this study to go deeply into this matter; suffice it to say that throughout the war Iraq effectively faced two enemies -- Iran and the elements of its own Kurdish minority. Significant numbers of the Kurds had launched a revolt against Baghdad and in the process teamed up with Tehran. As soon as the war with Iran ended, Iraq announced its determination to crush the Kurdish insurrection. It sent Republican Guards to the Kurdish area, and in the course of this operation - according to the U.S. State Department -- gas was used, with the result that numerous Kurdish civilians were killed. The Iraqi government denied that any such gassing had occurred. Nonetheless, Secretary of State Schultz stood by U.S. accusations, and the U.S. Congress, acting on its own, sought to impose economic sanctions on Baghdad as a violator of the Kurds' human rights.
"Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Department's claim that gas was used in this instance. To begin with there were never any victims produced. International relief organizations who examined the Kurds -- in Turkey where they had gone for asylum -- failed to discover any. Nor were there ever any found inside Iraq. The claim rests solely on testimony of the Kurds who had crossed the border into Turkey, where they were interviewed by staffers of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
"We would have expected, in a matter as serious as this, that the Congress would have exercised some care. However, passage of the sanctions measure through the Congress was unusually swift -- at least in the Senate where a unanimous vote was secured within 24 hours. Further, the proposed sanctions were quite draconian. Fortunately for the future of Iraqi-U.S. ties, the sanctions measure failed to pass on a bureaucratic technicality (it was attached as a rider to a bill that died before adjournment).
"It appears that in seeking to punish Iraq, the Congress was influenced by another incident that occurred five months earlier in another Iraqi-Kurdish city, Halabjah. In March 1988, the Kurds at Halabjah were bombarded with chemical weapons, producing a great many deaths. Photographs of the Kurdish victims were widely disseminated in the international media. Iraq was blamed for the Halabjah attack, even though it was subsequently brought out that Iran too had used chemicals in this operation, and it seemed likely that it was the Iranian bombardment that had actually killed the Kurds.
"Thus, in our view, the Congress acted more on the basis of emotionalism than factual information, and without sufficient thought for the adverse diplomatic effects of its action. As a result of the outcome of the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq is now the most powerful state in the Persian Gulf, an area in which we have vital interests. To maintain an uninterrupted flow of oil from the Gulf to the West, we need to develop good working relations with all of the Gulf states, and particularly with Iraq, the strongest."(1)
I am not trying to apologize for Iraq. Perhaps the report was wrong. Perhaps Iraq did gas its own people. I just say that Iraq should be given the benefit of the doubt. We expect them to be understanding about our actions - which may have resulted in far more deaths - read more at http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/TerrorInUSA/faq/Iraq.asp Understanding should be a two way street.Finally, it has been pointed out that America has also used gas against its own people.
"Didn't our government also do that at WACO? The C2 gas used by the FBI killed children who couldn't fit into gas masks and then created an explosive mixture which triggered fire and immolation, (see super documentary, WACO, nominated for an Academy Award.
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:49 (twenty-three years ago)
"Papers of the British cabinet of 1963, later declassified, disclose that the coup had been backed by the British and the CIA. "Added note: For the coup of 1963 the British MI6 and the CIA hired a young Iraqi man in Cairo to do their dirty work and help them destroy the Iraqi Communist Party. That man's name: Saddam Hussein."
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 13 April 2003 01:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 02:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)
― JIM SHU (jimshu), Sunday, 13 April 2003 10:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 13 April 2003 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― Stuart (Stuart), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bob George, Monday, 12 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 07:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mehran Fallahi, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)
― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)