Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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His first job was as a shoeshine boy. My first "job" was an internship in his Senate office in Washington.

He died today at age 76. Here is a very good obituary

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 27 March 2003 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

Ingredients:. 4 eggs 4 1/2 cups sugar 3 cups butter A pinch of saffron.

― ff, Friday, 1 July 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Does the obituary mention his role in aiding and abetting Suharto's crimes in Indonesia?

Fuck Moynihan, hope he burns in hell, etc.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 1 July 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

He was my commencement speaker. Never especially liked him, but I once dreamed I was discussing the Meat Puppets' "Up on the Sun" with him.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 July 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

he also curated the damage thesis, a variant of which bill cosby is currently riffing on.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Friday, 1 July 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Moynihans thesis was that welfare damaged the black family by being a disincentive to marriage, that's a bit different than Cosby's "the poor people aren't holding up their end of the bargain".

― Chuck Karlin, Friday, 1 July 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

five years pass...

A good overview. Unfortunately it's written by David Brooks.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 October 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Like any politician in DC, Moynihan was willingly compliant in a multitude of crimes, not limited to our egregious foreign policy.

He is often described as an intellectual, but in a politician that is not a sound recommendation, in that intellectuals are given to elaborate pet theories. The very complexity of their ideas misleads them into thinking their conclusions reflect the far greater complexity of reality, so that their hubris closes their minds to contrary facts - just like us ordinary non-intellectual yahoos. Practical pols often do better.

― Aimless, Saturday, 16 October 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

his role in aiding and abetting Suharto's crimes in Indonesia?

i'm always amazed (not necessarily in this case) at the uniformly poor foreign policy decisions of a dishearteningly large portion of our leaders, even dudes who seemed on balance to be pretty solid.

am i just seeing these moves through the hypercritical lens of 20/20 hindsight? point me to some legislative heroes, esp w/r/t cold war era foreign policy, ilx.

― hypnosis is the reason some Jewish people backed him → (will), Saturday, 16 October 2010 18:01 (fifteen years ago)

Still admire him though; always good for an acerbic line or two, and his starfucking was often deft. I recommend Secrecy for anyone interested in the absurdity of our classification system.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

Good Rick Hertzberg reminiscence.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 October 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

useless blowhard. nor am i surprised that Gabb had a special place in his heart for him.

― Ed Kranepool borrow Chico Escuela's soap and never give it back (Eisbaer), Monday, 18 October 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

The right kind of blowhard. If I'd had a heart he'd be there.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 October 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

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