What if Bin Laden came quietly.

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Unlikely I know, but would he get a fair trial? Would he use it to justify his position? Would the US meekly accept that or would a reprisal attack take place?

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Its unlikely he would get a fair trial at the moment since there is NO PROOF.

Pete, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is Osama Bin Laden good looking?

Is it just me who finds his mouth rather nice?

chris, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If he doesn't, he's missing the biggest PR op of all time. Imagine having the opportunity to announce yourself as either the Messiah or the Antichrist and having large parts of the world believe you.

dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Trials of muslims in the US are being suspended because it's feared the current atmosphere of hatred and retribution will make fairness impossible.

As for Osama Bin Laden, doesn't he set off your gaydar? Having read up on his history, I would say that he is, if not homosexual, then at least extremely homosocial. He went to an elite private school with lots of (male) Saudi royals, has a huge network of brothers (his father had something like 300 children by various wives) and has chosen to live in the mountains playing phallic games with machineguns with some hunky men, who adore him and would die for him. Kinky, no?

Momus, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He also has several more wives than any of us.

I do think he's good looking though.

Tom, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Momus, have you been reading 'Dune' lately?

dave q, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, what's 'Dune'?

Momus, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And he might be hiding in a TUNNEL under the mountains. Dodgy or what?

alex t, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And how does Billy know he comes noisily, eh?

Tom, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dune = the urgent and key text here!! Fremen riding sandworms, atomics to breach the shieldwall, prescient spice…

mark s, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

STING!

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Curse you, Tom, for STEALING MY JOKE.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mark s = "Prescient Spice"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i heart t. hand

mark s, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That begs the question 'what if he came noisily?' I suppose.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If Bin Laden IS gay, then who's he bin layen?

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyway, Dune -- to Momus: one of those American SF books that pretty much most every American SF geek reads early on, helped by the fact that the protagonist is 15 years old. Identification! More to the point, it grew out of author Frank Herbert's combined interest in desert ecology and the messianic impulse. Said would likely consider it 'orientalism in space,' but though I haven't read it in a while, I have to say that his Arab equivalents are shown in a fairly multidimensional light (not *perfectly* so, I have to note). However, those who have read it more recently may wish to correct me.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If he IS gay we know he hasnt Bin Layen bush anyway.....................I'm sorry, so so sorry.

Ronan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, he hates Bush but I think he hates Dick too. I guess he's only into Sadamy

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe its not George but Barb he's after in that case

Ronan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gettin gback to the originla question, if he came quietly there would be allot less orgasmic noise during after hours in the Afghani desert love tents.

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is Osama Bin Laden good looking?
Minus the beard, yes.

nathalie, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmmmmm.

rezna, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You'd have to imprison him in some really remote place like the artic. Why can't his funds be frozen and/or why doesn't he help the starving people of Afghanistan with all his riches?

jel, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Is Osama Bin Laden good looking?
Minus the beard, yes."
I jokingly accused my mum of fancying bin Laden today, and she said he's got nice eyes.

DG, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All it takes is a pretty face to sway the crowds

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bin Laden will be doing porn shoots before you know it. And films, like OJ, and then they'll fuck up and find him innocent.

Ronan, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All it takes is a pretty face to sway the crowds

That, and about a billion dollars.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Is Osama Bin Laden good looking?

Now I've heard everything. Ugh, has everyone gone mad? He's not good looking to me, anyway. Not at all. I mean really not.

Sean, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Turbans are sexy.

Pennysong Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just reread Whipping Star (rich woman has kiny sex with gas giant) and The Dosadi Experiment (the Gaza Strip in space + top male-female body exchange rowr + even topper courtroom drama climax complete with one of the judges killed with a thrown spear by one of the lawyers)

So will now plunge back into long-unread Dune which I think Ned you are a wee bit unreasonable calling "orientalist": yes the Fremen somewhat resemble the Bedouin, no the Bedouin do not ride on 300-metre sandworms which excrete the spice which enables star-travel. My favourite character surprise surprise was Alia of the Knife and I was always fed up at the plot turn which did for her in later books. I only evah got as far as God Emperor of D, btw. Who read em all?

Prescient Spice, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey, I was saying what I thought Edward Said would think, not me! ;-) And for my sins, I read them all. There really should have only been the one, at most four.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Osama Bin Laden doesn't wear clothes that show off his figure, so it's hard to say if he's hunky or not. Whether he's, you know, that way, well, the thought hadn't occured to me. This is odd considering that I've been known to lobby the charge of "repressed homosexual" rather promiscuously at anybody with chronic asshole tendencies. Unfortunately his public appearances are so tightly scripted and controlled that even if he displays weird gay-identified behavioral tics in most situations, the public never sees them. (Just like J. Edgar Hoover.) It also helps that you never actually hear him speak when he's on the news.

Incidentally, the other day I was talking a guy with some connections to the online gay porn industry, and we both happily agreed that there's going to be a lot more porn with firemen in the coming months. I suspect there'll probably also be more porn -- gay and otherwise -- featuring Arab-Americans. This is a considerably more ambiguous development, to put it mildly.

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gay porn disaster films anyone? "Back(door)draft"? "Really Deep Impact"?

dave q, Wednesday, 19 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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