Defend the totally indefensible : Harold Shipman

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― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Old people bore me.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

And then one comes along and pulls a cracker out of his hat, like the late Harold here!

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

He made the trains run on time.

― Barry S., Tuesday, 13 January 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Old people bore Nick.

― omg, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

He was Britains most effective serial killer.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

This event plays quite interestingly into arguments for and vs capital punishment.

Is it being discussed on some other thread?

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The Soham Trial is making me pro-Capital Punishment

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone else wonder how 'stringent' the suicide wtahc was? ie they watched him committ suicide?

I thought he looked kindly.

― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

He wasn't on suicide watch. There will be an enquiry into why not, which will be a waste of time and money. I can see why the prison service should be under an obligation not to make it easy for vulnerable people who are temporarily depressed to commit suicide. But not why they are supposed to make it impossible for someone as determined and resourceful as Shipman to kill himself.

― ArfArf, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, Shipman is a) a doctor and b) has ample experience of killing people. He could probably have done it with just his two fingers, like that woman no one can remember in Big Brother 4.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Which one was that? I don't remember her at all.

― a shotgun, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

like that woman no one can remember in Big Brother 4.

what?

― Fatal Beret (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

He took quite a strain off the NHS. Thanks Harold!

― Charles Dexter (Holey), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

But then I guess he put it onto the police and judiciary. Bad Harold!

― Charles Dexter (Holey), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Did the Sun have the same uber-classy headline as the Irish version ("Ship Ship Hooray")?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes. You beat me to the quick with that one Farrell.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

But then I guess he put it onto the police and judiciary. Bad Harold!

but then he took if off the Pension burden. good harold again...

(Can this get any worse?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually stared at it a bit before I got it (it's the fact that it's a pun on his name that pushes it over the edge), but I am a bit sleepy this morning.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd have thought 'ship ship away' would have sounded better, still implying the 'hooray' bit anyway.

It also seems to missed the zeitgeist's take on murderers' suicides, ie. that this isn't a day to rejoice at all, because Shipman has shamefully been allowed control of his own destiny (or 'have the last laugh', as the Mail rather OTTly puts it). Whether this depends more on a 'death's too good for him' feeling or an increased understanding of the victims' families' need for answers, I don't know.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"Indian scientists are pefecting technology which will allow the Daily Mail to identify this sick filth's next incarnation so that we can name and shame him as soon as possible."

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Shipman's suicide is pretty much the definitive argument against the death penalty being a deterrent, no? (then again you could have said the same thing about Goering at Nuremberg)

Top ten reasons for not bringing back the death penalty: four from Guildford and six from Birmingham. Bubbling under at number 11: Sir Roy Meadows!

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

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