Radical 'new' bicycle from Raleigh.

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Don't get all excited now:

http://www.raleighbikes.com/home.html

(hit 'reload' a coupla times. There's abt 3 different pics)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

a few things:

what the hell have they done to the seat??? no more one piece = travesty

gear change = moved to the handlebars = madness

I'm sure I'll think of more

chris (chris), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

gear change = moved to the handlebars = madness

Eh? It's been on the handlebars for years innit!

Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

the return¿ i wasn't aware it went away.

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

be the first on your block to get beat up for being different!

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to beat up that bike.

dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Note differences from the original '70's 'icon, prob. due to safety regulations - saddle, lack of t-bar gear selector, different chainguard (a pity, cuz thee original chainguard was stylee)

Probably I'll get one in, depending on the cost.

True story from thee heyday of this m/c - we were lucky enough to get the drop on all of our local competitors when they hit big, b/c we ordered them first & raleigh guaranteed delivery if you ordered - the bike took off, R couldn't keep up w/demand, and we sold fukcing loads of them. Xmas eve, nineteen seventy-whatever, there was one left in the shop. 2 women came in, both wanting it for their kid. They had a punch-up in the shop!!

Late '70's, at the ass end, when they brought the Grifter in (grifter = rub) we had the special edition model w/alloy (v heavy) wheels. We sold it off for jaCK SHIT. nOW WORth thousands of pounds to yer obsessive '70's tat collector argh.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

not on a chopper!!!!!

it should be in a panel on the crossbar

x-post to enrique

and 200 quid for a chopper? jeez

Pash - I had a grifter xl (the one you talk about?)

I put red mags on it and took off the carrier on the back and itr was loads better - at least until I got my Kuwahara.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Pashmina: are you asking because you're thinking of buying one?

I have a virtually identical one, created by GIANT, that I bought in Spring of 2003.

If you LOVE getting attention; if you LOVE having people follow you to find out what you're riding...and...if you have SEVERE BACK TRAUMA..than this bike is for you!

I have 3 fractured disks in my lower lumbar region and could no longer ride a normal bike, either curved or upright handle bars, for more than 1/2 an hour.

My girlfriend needed to buy herself a new bike and when we went to a bike dealership, I spied my GIANT. I was drawn to it's design like flies to honey. Turns out that the president of GIANT, was in a car accident and could no longer ride his own products!!! He teamed together with his orthapedic surgeons and the group of them created this design. It places NO impact on your back; the support takes the pressure off of your spine. You sit in it like an easy chair and use your thigh muscles more than your knee muscles.

The only down side on a recumbant is that it's NEVER< going to match an upright for speed, and that's because a traditional bike propels itself by using your WEIGHT to create the push on the pedals. Your weight is evenly distributed on a recumbant, so you can get up to 30 miles per hour, but that's the top speed I've achieved. An upright, on flat ground, can get you up to 40 mph.

Psychokitty, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

grifter xl, yes = raleigh's version of the early bmx.

Is 200 quid going to be the retail price? I didn't see that. I'll definitely get one in then!

Original Chopper prices = madness. 200 quid = a box of bits. NB the originals had whellnuts & seat post nuts with printed stylised raleigh "R" on the end. See them advertised as "unique to chopper rarities" WHEN EVERY '70'S RALEIGH BIKE HAD THEM. Classic scam = buy rsw16 for 10 quid, swap all the nuts for normal ones, sell "R" logo nuts for shitloads of ££$$.

Classic scam 2 = sell "Rare discontinued Chopper red stripe tyres" for shitloads, when they have never gone out of production, and I cd pull a couple of my tyre rach, sell them for 12 quid the pair, and have a new set in from Raleigh in 2 days or less.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(Psycho-K, I own & run a bike shop)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Psycho-K, I presume yr refering to the EZ-Bike? the one that (ahem) looks a lot like a Reise und Muller Equinoxe? Have you tried a full recumbent (EG the one we stock though there are loads more) you can go _much_ faster than an upright on the flat or downhill on one of those!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/000.000.000/000.000.000.asp?lArticleID=10073&lMagazineID=1

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/030.000.000/030.000.000.asp?model=10786&lYear=2004&bikesection=8836

Pashmina: here's two links to GIANTS site: one is just a photo of the bike and the other is a large article.

Since you own a shop, you might consider this bike. I am truly serious when I tell you that people: men AND women, will stop me at lights, while I'm riding, will yell out to me "What's that bike!?" and I always stop and tell them. If I trust them I allow them to ride the bike and they always come back with the largest grin on their faces! :) :)

The ONLY down side of the bike, is that it's very heavy, so you can't live on a third floor walk up and carry it up, not unless you have two male roommates to do the work for you, and how long will THAT take to get old?

So, I lock my bike up on the chain link fence at ground level and throw a tarp around it for the elements and prying eyes.

Psychokitty, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S. I don't have the blue model, I have the champagne. There's no direct link; you have to open a window once you get to the photo of the blue model. I have to tell you, as a woman, it's awesome to have all the attention from guys regarding having the 'coolest of the cool' bikes. I can't afford a $60,000 car to make heads turn, but I sure can afford an $850 bike!

Psychokitty, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha, that's the one, it's marketed as the easibike (or something like that) over here. It is actually the sort of thing I'd stock, but there's a Giant Dealer nearby, plus I'm a Reise und Muller dealer, and they might get pissed w/me if I sold it!

(ahem) http://www.r-m.de/english/1_katalog/equinox/index.html

Reportely, the easibike rides better, whilst the equinox is lighter, but much more expensive. the british cycling public are very conservative in a lot of ways, and apart from the folding bikes, which sell on practicality (R&M's "Birdy" model is one of the best, as is the Brompton) or the recumbents, which have their own little following, anything unusual tends to sit on the shelf, looking folorn.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I live in a very expensive, posh area of Chicago where you're always looking for a way to stand out from the crowd. If you can have something unusual for even a WEEK, then the stores will sell out of it! (My apartment is rent controlled; I pay 1/5th of the standard rate!)

When the owner of my shop rode one of these to a music fest, he had 20 offers to buy it, on site. So, the next day, he took 5 of his crew with him, on the Revive, they pedaled to seperate parts of the festival: within ONE hour, they had sold every one of them! The owner drove 500 mile to another store, bought every REVIVE they had, and sold 21 more in the next 3 days, by biking around the festival! (Taste of Chicago, by the way)

Psychokitty, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

how much is a Hurricane tour, or don't I want to know?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

1100 pounds upwards depending on spec, Ed. My demonstrator has additional air shock at the back, shimano deore hydraulic disc brakes, sram attack shifters, second rear rack, and a pair of neat little sausage-shaped pannier bags, and it would cost about 1450 pounds. London Recumbents is a good dealer in your area, who keeps them, and IIRC keeps a demo model.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

tax rebate time (april) is new bike time and it may be enough (with savings) for the birdy with the rohloff gears but I'm not discounting other options.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

pashmina, do you know if the choppers are available in the states? looks like fun! (yes, i live in london, but free/cheap bikes are at home at the family bike shop)

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bicyclemuseum.com/Images/B80.gif

...so OWNZ this thread.

So if the bike is so heavy you further damage your back moving it about, have you gained anything.

The only down side on a recumbant is that it's NEVER< going to match an upright for speed, and that's because a traditional bike propels itself by using your WEIGHT to create the push on the pedals.

Boring bike pedantry and aerodynamics aside, recumbents can be awesomely FASTER than uprights depending on configuration, as you say, on flat ground. Yes uphill bad. Acceleration bad. Riding across USA a companion of mine was on a faired Lightening P41 and despite his fat-assedness and the amazing stereo system he had mounted on it, holding his wheel was a scrabble. Going uphill of course, you realize that he was, in effect, riding a lawn chair, and going about as fast.

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

They also tend to be low/hard-ish to see in traffic, offer poor visibility, and not so maneuverable. But if it allows you to ride, excellent.

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven years pass...

Anyone have first-hand experience with Priority Bicycles (http://www.prioritybicycles.com/store), or belt-driven bikes in general? I like the price, but do they hold up?

Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Friday, 27 February 2015 23:23 (eleven years ago)


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