Were you a no-name spunker? How would you feel if eighty kids with your face on suddenly turned up at you door callin' you Daddy.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Busted.
― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― robster (robster), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― anonymous donor, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
However there are lots of people born from yer regular sex who do not know who their real fathers are so this "right" that is being claimed seems a bit excessive. Also what about the familial father, who brings up the child born of donation. Asserting this right seems to suggest there is something primary about knowing ones genetic heritage.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)
currently there is a maximum of 10 people you can spawn with your lovejuice donation - this is to minimise the chance of people unknowingly marrying their half-siblings.
But this can change as through this tracing people will now be able to find out whether your partner is biologically related to you.
What i wonder though, is does the father have a right of tracing their offsprings conceived through this?
As ron atkinson once said: If goalkeepers are allowed to move before a penalty is struck, then the striker should be allowed to stop. makes sense.
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)
I would say no definitely not. You have decided to donate your sperm for others or possibly a financial gain. You have not made the decision to have children & therefore surely to wave the right to any offsprings.
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
It was thirty quid a pop in 1992. Only allowed to do it three times.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes, teh second sentence is the case in UK law at the moment and I think rightly so. Hence giving kids the right to find out their genetic heritage beyond certain anonymous basics (he was a 19 year old student from London) is giving a child of sperm donation more rights that the rest of us have.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)
What about the right of the mother to have privacy re: her sexual relationships.
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)
Her rights are the same as the fathers in that they both cosented to sex (in the case of a one night stand for example) & therefore have to live with the consequences. They have to follow the child's wishes.
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
However, I've read the article. It states plainly that there is no financial responsibility involved for the donor, and it will not be retroactive.
― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)
I think things like genetic propensities, family medical histories are what they are really after with this non-anonymity. But if genetics are as advanced as they say they are, they can get that off the child's DNA without involving the donor!
― the river fleet, Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)
i can't see how this is different to sperm donation... what if during a one night stand they agree that if there was a child, then it has nothing to do with the bloke? if it's the child's right, why does it matter how the child was conceived?
anyway xxpost and off topic yes
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
In both, someone's life will be intruded upon by an individual who's likely to be needy; that's a responsibility to the spunker that they didn't ask for, didn't sign up for and wasn't part of the deal. Had it been in place, they might not have done it. Either That may or may not be right, but I don't see how it can be ethical to retrospectively alter the terms of the donation.
The only reason I can see for knowing is for illness (determining which illnesses one might have predisposition for) but this can surely be handled by an intermediary where one contacts a clinic who have a record on spunker which is regularly checked. Spunked child can check the lurgies that pa has might have passed on.
― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)