Hooray for the lengthening days

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This time last week it was dark. Now the light is shining beautifully on the cathederal outside my window. Hooray!

― hmmmm, Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

whens the clocks change and which way?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

That's freaky, I was just saying the exact same thing!
(apart from the cathedral thing)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

me too.
I noticed that by the time I got to work, the street lights had turned off.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

It's still so darl in the mornings though! :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

boo to me sleeping through them

― fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

January has been the longest month in history. I wouldn't be at all surprised to get to next week and discover that it's March already, January having swallowed all of February in it's cold gaping maw.

It's still light out, but since it's pissing it down I'm not that excited.

I think I have SAD.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

You didn't get it from me.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

yep. i'm excited that it's almost 4:30 and not dark yet. almost summer!

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

It better not be march next week cos that would mean that I missed my b/day in Feb. :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The clocks change in March sometime, not sure beyond that.

It may even be light when I walk home tonight. Won't be pitch black when I leave though. This makes me feel like everything is ok.

3x-post

Could do with missing valentine's day tho.

― hmmmm, Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't help wondering *which* cathedral you're opposite.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh now I'm going colour blind as well. I've just stuck green dots on a stack of books that are meant to have blue ones.

I blame Horace.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

in the UK the clocks go forward on 28th March, in the US the 4 April.

confusing, isn't it?

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

do what now???

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the EU starts daylight savings time the last sunday in march, the US starts it the first sunday in april. there's a week of an extra hour difference between here and the US.

but the switch back in october is on the same day.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone else NOT change the clocks at all?
Where I am, we're on year-round DST.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Caitlin - It's technically a church as I don't think there's any bishop action, but it's bloody big so cathederal is a better generator of images in folk's heads. I'm not eve sure what denomination it is.

― hmmmm, Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

It looks nice tho. At least it does when it's light and it is not anymore. Touch an go as to whether there will be any light in the sky as I leave in a few mins.

[and I've just realised I can't spell cathedral]

― hmmmm, Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

[or and]

― hmmmm, Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

About 70 countries around the world observe DST in some form. Here are some interesting facts about some of them:

In Canada, every province except Saskatchewan observes DST. It remains on standard time all year long.

It wasn't until 1996 that Mexico adopted DST. Now all three Mexican time zones are on the same schedule as the United States.

Also in 1996, members of the European Union agreed to observe a "summer-time period" from the last Sunday in March to the last Sunday in October.

In the winter months, Russia, which spans over 11 time zones, is always one hour ahead of standard time. In the summer, Russians turn their clocks ahead one more hour.

Most countries near the equator don't deviate from standard time.
In the Southern Hemisphere, where summer arrives in what we in the Northern Hemisphere consider the winter months, DST is observed from late October to late March.

Three large regions in Australia do not participate in DST. Western Australia, the Northern Territory, and Queensland stay on standard time all year. The remaining south-central and southeastern sections of the continent (which is where Sydney and Melbourne are found) make the switch. This results in both vertical and horizontal time zones Down Under during the summer months

China, which spans five time zones, is always eight hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time and it does not observe DST.

There is no DST period in Japan either.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

aren't there some places in the States that don't observe DST as well. I think Arizona (not the whole state, but some counties, or maybe just one).
SK is on always on DST. DST is our standard.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Arizona and Hawaii and the territories of Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and American Samoa are the only places in the U.S. that do not observe DST but instead stay on Greenwich Mean Time or "standard time" all year long. And if you've spent any time in the sweltering summer sun in those regions you can understand why residents don't need another hour of sunlight.

And then there is Indiana. You can get yourself in quite a mess when you ask "What time is it?" in parts of Indiana.

Under the current system, 77 of the state's 92 counties are in the Eastern Time Zone but do not change to daylight time in April. Instead they remain on standard time all year. That is, except for two counties near Cincinnati, Ohio, and Louisville, Ky., which do use daylight time.

But the counties in the northwest corner of the state (near Chicago) and the southwestern tip (near Evansville) are in the Central Time Zone and use both standard and daylight time.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

(i'm only cutting and pasting, in case anyone thinks i'd write something like 'And then there is Indiana. You can get yourself in quite a mess when you ask "What time is it?" in parts of Indiana.')

see http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html for more info

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought so.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate, despise and loathe the early dusks and waking when it's dark. I really really do. I might well have some form of SAD, I'm not sure.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I have terrible SAD. Esp since my apt is in an inside corner that not only gets very little sunlight, but has the parking lot lights blaring all night outside, so I usually keep my blinds down.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I honestly think I suffer from reverse SAD, the thought of a hot summer and long days depress me no end - maybe it's town living. I know people are gonna think I'm kidding but I'm not. I like the dark and the cold and the snow and the wind and the rain, a bit of sun is okay too, but when it goes on and on like last year, it just sizzles the inspiration and hope out of me.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

do you know why this is? it does seem to go against the grain. i'm just curious about the real reasons behind it.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably something to do with the many disappointing summers I've had over the years - and maybe that summer pressure thing "oh you must be having a good time" "er, no not really", or maybe I'm always a bit miserable, but people are happier in summer and I just notice it more. There's just so much more to do in Autumn and Winter.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I like short days.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I dislike summers because I was conditioned that way by long US school holidays. I always get happier in about September or October when the temperature cools down and I instinctively look forward to going to school and having something to do! (Yes, I know I'm weird.)

― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

everything Jel's saying makes sense to me. Sometimes the cold and wet can get a bit much but it's definitely preferable to hot and dry weather.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

no, not weird at all, the year begins in September as far as I'm concerned.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

But I still do think that I experience some kind of SAD because December and January are still the worst times of the year.

― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

hey, don't forget february! which is supersized this year.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I have full blown SAD, but I far prefer, say, constantly grey skies and wet weather than i do periods of time when I have to wake up in the dark and go back home in the dark.

Makes me wish I was born in Alaska or Cape Horn or something, so this extreme long day/long night thing wouldn't bother me so much.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I Loooove LOOOOOOOOVE the long days of summer in Seattle.

However, I experienced the XTRA LOOOOONG days of summer in Alaska for a weekend, and while it was exciting, I think it fucked up my brain in the short term. (never mind the fucking seagulls screaming at a piercing frequency ALL FUCKING HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER REALLY NIGHT!)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Even English supersized summer, where it stays bright until 10 and gets light at 4am, that's like my idea of hell.

― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

To me, the year isn't truly official until Super Bowl Sunday. I'm not even that big of a football fan. It just seems that after the Super Bowl, "How's your new year been?" is no longer an acceptable question.

The Navajo reservations of Arizona, which account for nearly 25% of the state, DO observe DST.

Idaho is the only state that is divided into north and south sections by a time zone line.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

how does a time zone dived into North and South?

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

ps. i gve up speling fr nw yrs

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess what I'm saying is that time zone boundaries usually follow longitude lines. In Idaho, the line goes east/west roughly along a latitude line.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, so we're on the same page.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

longer days = more sunlight = more opportunity to see the awful struggle that is life

turn the lights back out please! I'm not read for fucking happy springtime.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone know if, living in Los Angeles (or NYC or London for that matter), the hours of sunshine change at a constant rate? or does it vary (1 minute more today, 2 minutes more tomorrow etc).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't wait for spring so I can go to the park after work and walk the track and oogle the cute doggies.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Idaho's shape is all fucked up like..

But it's not a huge logical leap. Northern Idaho's biggest cities are closests to Washington state's cities across the border, which are Pacific. Whereas Boise isn't really close enough to anything in Oregon to warrant being Pacific.

Want fucked up time zone demarkation lines? Look at Canada's Northwest Territories vs. Nunuvat.

Does anyone know if, living in Los Angeles (or NYC or London for that matter), the hours of sunshine change at a constant rate? or does it vary (1 minute more today, 2 minutes more tomorrow etc).

I think the rate of change is slower around winter and summer soltice, and fastest when spring or fall breaks. But I could be wrong. I'm not an astronomist.

Come to think of it, the earth spins at the same axis around the sun at a pretty constant rate, so I think the changes are, more or less, the same all year around.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm...it looks like LA gains daylight at a slightly quicker rate in January than it does in June.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep in mind, the Earth's orbit isn't a perfect circle around the sun, though close. Earth is closest to the Sun around January/December, which, if oops is correct, may explain what he just said, and further constrast my original hypothesis.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Want fucked up time zone demarkation lines? Look at Canada's Northwest Territories vs. Nunuvat...
Seems like the closer you get to the North Pole, the thinner the time zones would get. Once you got up there, you could grab a hold of that candy-striped pole and run around all 24 time zones.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Weeeeee! except.. there is no land at the North pole.

South pole, however.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

And the North Pole officially drifted out of Canada's dominion a few years ago.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

thought this thread was "hooray for the lengthening dys". what a dysappointment.

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm looking forward to Spring but not my chronic hayfever

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Around 300 CE the catholic church picked dec 25 as the birth of jesus to hijack the popularity of established winter solstice parties, then destroyed the temples and statues of those tolerant religions.

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Santa is actually the aggregate eater of those souls who didn't follow the way of the catholic church and Coca-Cola.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

shouldn't you be asking the ALMANAC MAN all these questions??

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Hurrah! And I've actually got the 2004 Farmer's Almanac with me today!

*is arrested as a terrorist*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep this up and you're going to end up being referred to as "Almanac Man".

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 22 January 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The horrible thing is that I immediately sung that title to the tune of "Particle Man" by TMBG. Hm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

then destroyed the temples and statues of those tolerant religions.

that's what they get for being so tolerant!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

exactly ... it's like what my dad used to say, "yer so open-minded, i bet yer brain falls outta yer skull when you sleep at night!"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 22 January 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

That's funny, I was hearing it to the tune of "Transformer man... (doo doo doodle do doo)" by Neil Young.

― the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

Coudl I just say Hooray! for the lengthening days once more. I can't see the cathederal cos the blinds are down.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Woo!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Boo for east-facing bedroom windows.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

whens the clocks change and which way?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray indeed. It wasn't pitch black when I got home from work last night, which is definite progress.

Spring forward, fall back...

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh and it's this Sunday in the UK.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I like it when it gets dark early. Sunlight depresses me.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

This Sunday? Good. The kids keep waking up at 07:00 at weekends. (Funny how they don't Mon to Fri)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Damnit, miss an hours sleep!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

MUST HAVE MY DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME

Sorry, I've only just been waiting the whole winter for it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey that means I'm being cheated out of an hour of All Tomorrow's Parties. No Fair!

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Not to worry, it's the Throbbing Gristle set.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't do DST.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

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