At what age are you too old for "youth culture"?

Bacharach and David used to write his favorite songs
Never, never, never would he worry, he'd just run and fetch the ball
But the night lights and my dog's life aren't exactly one and the same

DLT & Bates: were very adult oriented.

If by youth culture, you mean blindly following the fashions of what your peers are doing, some people give it up at 13 and some people never give it up.

If by youth culture, you mean fetishisation of youth, then fuck, give it up in the womb.

Sometime way before then, in any case.

Think about the people that you are dating or are attracted to. If the people you date stay the same age while you get older and older (it may even seem to you that the people you date get younger and younger while you stay the same age) then it's probably time for you to quit "the youth culture".

Oh how I love the DG.

In fact, the only show I've felt young at in recent times was Richard Thompson.

In short, I don't think there's a specific age, but when a preponderance of other things take precedence over going to shows and record shopping, it gets tough. And, I think, there comes a time when youth culture shouldn't be the most important thing in your life. Not that everyone has to settle down and breed, but maybe a preponderance of other things should take precedence over going to shows and record shopping, at some point. Otherwise . . .

At one point, I wrote some stuff for the paper about Julie Doiron. A lot of the indie music I came up on, I theorized, was about wanting--a girl/boyfriend, an identity, a clue, an answer, happiness, something. It's one of the great motivators of rock music. Julie Doiron put out an album--can't recall the name now--that had all these songs about being too tired to fight, about having a kid, about the kind of love that doesn't tie you up in knots--in fact, quite the opposite. To me, it seemed, she had hit a place in her life where, to some extent, having had replaced wanting. She had a life that had been somewhat defined by parenthood, and she was trying to write songs about that. And I suspected at the time that more or less the whole indie generation would have to deal with similar issues at some point, not least the fact that having is less exciting than wanting, if perhaps ultimately more rewarding.

I don't know if all of that makes sense, but it does to me.

Heh heh. Is your boy going? If so, by choice or by suggestion?

If the implication is that I work in -- or even consume -- youth culture, I flatly reject it. I can't stand Radio 1, and in fact have very little interest in pop music per se. The last time I went record shopping it was for records by Harry Partch and George Crumb. My new album is a folk album. Not an ironic folk album, just a folk album.

As for dating women in their 20s, the day younger women stop finding older men attractive I will cease to date, frequent and live with them. I won't have much choice, will I?