Vincent D'Onofrio, or, Why doesn't anyone besides me love Law & Order: Criminal Intent?

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I just love Vincent D'Onofrio, but whenever I bring him up to friends (most of them Law and Order fans), they tell me they can't stand his smug ass. I think he's great! I may even see The Cell, despite it's legendarily horrible reviews - I like J Lo and Vince Vaughn a lot, but I REALLY wanna see D'Onofrio in a movie role.

What's not to like??

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

wasn't d'onofrio in ..ahem.. men in black too?

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Was he? well, that's where I draw the line. I won't see that. Then again...wasn't Knoxville in that one too?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

no idea, i've not seen it. But i have seen the cell and it's not bad. Certainly a different role than det. goren :)

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't remember The Cell getting extraordinarily bad reviews. It had some really good ideas and neat art direction, but it sort of failed, but not miserably.
I watched LOCI for the first season or so, then got bored since the D'Onofrio character was too perfect. I like the format of the show though, reminds me of the great TV Detective shows of the 70s that used to be on A&E in the 90s.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Vincent D'Onofrio will always be "Thor" from Adventures in Babysitting to me.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! Was that HIM?

I'm glad I'm not alone re: Criminal Intent. What do you mean 'too perfect?' If Goren was a real person, it'd probably result in my very first non-sexual crush on a man.

I just remembered he played Abbie Hoffman, too. That movie was bad but I remember him being good - this was before I started watching Criminal Intent so I didn't pay much attention.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Also if you have a hard-on for V. D'O, check out the Homicide: Life on the Street episode "The Subway" I think it's from season 4 or maybe 5, V.D'O guest stars as a man pinned under a subway.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://webs.sir-ranulf.net/donofrio/albums/adventuresinbabysitting/Adventures_in_Babysitting_10.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

looks strangely like a young billy corgan

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I never would have guessed that was him, even if I was watching Adventures in Babysitting right now.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG I just crapped my pants.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

AARGH. Nick will die when he sees that pic.

We got the D'Onofrio love happening in our house, for sure. He's great, I even liked him as a mooshy bug man thing in Men in Black. I must watch the Cell again - it works well in a large cinema due to it being all noise heat and flash, as it were - probably wouldnt work too well on tv.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

We'll see. J Lo's sweet ass + Vince Vaughn's watchability + V.D'O? shiiiiiit. I'll sit through that.

Wow, so...why are so many of my friends hating so hard? Wifey is a fuckin' Sam Waters loyalist (I can't stand him), so that explains that. She liked Goren at first (though she denies it now) but now she tells me he's smug and 'lame.' My journo friends who never miss any of the Law and Orders (even the abhorrent SVU) hate him even more.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hey kid! I already got one of these at home."

http://webs.sir-ranulf.net/donofrio/albums/adventuresinbabysitting/Adventures_in_Babysitting_19.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

those pictures are amazing

the surface noise and the analogue warmth (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

ok i used to harbour a sexual attraction to vincent d'onofrio that all my mates sledged me mercilessly over. you have now killed it forever gear. i'm not sure if i should thank you.

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

no wait here's fresher D'Onofrio!

http://pub.donofriofans.com/fans/albums/photos01/Vincent_00.highlight.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

ohhhhh yeah

the surface noise and the analogue warmth (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

see i knew he was sexy in a salt and pepper sorta way. i don't understand why no one agrees with me. that character out of full metal jacket isn't really him you know...

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The problem I have with Goren is that he just knows more information than anyone should. Like he can look at a scraping of paint and basically carbon-date it by sight. He knows everything about everything, he has it all at the tip of his tongue. I just didn't find it that interesting compared to more realistic portrayals of police work, where they actually investigate instead of just know stuff.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i don't know, when i watch this stuff it's for escapism not realistic gadgets and whatnot. i don't mind if he retains his title as super-omniscient-detective.

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't mean to compare L&O:CI to CSI, and that's not the type of realism I meant anyway. The few episodes I've seen of CSI have seemed pretty sketchy on the forensics side of things.
But Goren seems to be in the mold of a Sherlock Holmes or perhaps Batman (depending on the writer) and there's nothing wrong with that, I just get tired of it sometimes.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i despise that guy from CSI. he has a face that incites feelings of anger and violence in me.

the surface noise and the analogue warmth (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

It's funny, I like all the females from the CSI shows but the guys annoy the hell out of me.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"I just didn't find it that interesting compared to more realistic portrayals of police work, where they actually investigate instead of just know stuff. "

maybe he's the secret prototype for those pre-cogs from minority report!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I just get tired of it sometimes

i must admit, i only see it very occasionally... maybe that's why i'm not tired of it, the novelty hasn't worn off...

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

LO:CI has really grown on me, I used to feel like Huck about it, just pissed off about them messing with the L&O formula and it not being a "realistic" police show. But now I look at CI as a purely ridiculous exaggerated mystery show, and it's a lot more enjoyable. It also helps to pretend it's not a L&O show. Sarah can't look at V D'O without cracking up because we saw a preview for an episode where he whinnied like a horse.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

See, I really liked it at first as a throwback to those 70s detective shows and sometimes I think VD'O is really great on it (and I think in general he's terrific too). Columbo is really the pinnacle of this genre. I do like the fact that you can still just watch a random episode every now and then, which I do. It's just not a show that I ever make a point of watching.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

You haven't read much of ILE if you think there's no love for Vincent D'Onofrio or L&O:CI.

Or, Sam and I to thread.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

and me!!!

maura (maura), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

And phil-two, I think?

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

D'Onofrio's great, and the character I always associate him with most is this one:

http://nam.wz.cz/images/fmj_2.jpg

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

D'Onofrio's CI acting if horrible. Bad posture+nervous tics+mumbling = ass.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

And phil-two, I think?

yes plz!

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

less D'Onofrio hate please! I'd never heard of him or indeed CI til I got bored one night in Sydney and turned the telly on - I love him and I think he's great and you are all wrong and so ner.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

D'Onofrio's the only thing I like about CI, but he's not enough to make me watch it very often. I do watch SVU though. Just thought I'd let you know since apparently that shoots my credibility in the foot with a lot of the CI fans.

Old-school non-suffix Law & Order is still the best, though I guess that may change with Briscoe out of the picture.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's the thing...he's great because of his hammy overacting, and even greater because he seems to think that this means that he really is a great ACTOR. He's the Charlton Heston of our generation (in terms of acting ability, not right-wing sensibilities (at least, not as far as I know.))

Comment dits-on...eh... le NA? (Nick A.), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't remember if you liked the show, phil, or just wanted to do Vincent.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't have a Vincent D'Onofrio thread without mentioning Pooh Bear.

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

And Mystic Pizza.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't tolerate Columbo bullshit but I know a lot folks who dig this show. I like D'Onofrio in most movies I've seen him in. Does a good Orson Welles impersonation.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1113876/SaltonSea-photo_17_hires.jpg

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Columbo rules! You're dead to me, Miccio. Maybe Bobby Goren can investigate.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry but any show that features a witness saying "What are you implying, detective?" I just can't be bothered to watch.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Why not?

Comment dits-on...eh... le NA? (Nick A.), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

My bro does a fantastic Bobby Goren impersonation. Stammers and cocks his head sideways and everything. Hi-larious.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Why not?

um, because I saw the first ten years of Law & Order?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just kind of DONE with that type of show, and a quirky lead is just one more nail in the coffin.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, I watch LO:CI pretty regularly, firstly because I'm a L&O whore, and secondly well, cause it's on right after the Blessed and Sacrosanct CSI. The "plot twists" try to be cleverer than Classic L&O, and end up just being too clever by half. I can't make up my mind if D'Onofrio irritates me or if I think he's great, it treads a fine line, but most of the time I think "dirty tricks, entrapment, that would never stand up in a court of law"

Apostrophe Catastrophe (kate), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i wish courtney b vance would come back

max, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:50 (sixteen years ago)

i wish nicole would stop boycotting goldblum

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

i wish they would bring back Alicia Witt's character as an in-house murderer

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:54 (sixteen years ago)

i might have missed some backstory here but is d'onofrio's character supposed to be autistic or something? he has weird pausings.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

weird pausings : d'onofrio's character :: being a stapler : a stapler

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

i wish courtney b vance would come back

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^^^^ yes

ian, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

they need to bring chris walken on as another detective and theyll have reached the character-actors-with-bizarre-tics trifecta

max, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

Tony Shaloub guests as Monk

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

oh wait, Max, they'll need Malkovich, surely

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 18:00 (sixteen years ago)

oh, duh

max, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha I was gonna bring up Malkovich

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

the financial one was good! but the one about the hipsters in fake-mckibben lofts was even better!

^^^^ on this. I started watching L&O:CI again because of that episode.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

I guess Detective Goren won't be investigatin the Hipster Grifter then.

If they get rid of ME Rodgers, I will cry.

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 26 September 2009 01:29 (sixteen years ago)

Still love this series so so much, and I've especially enjoyed the current cast. I preferred Bogosian to the former Captain, and I've liked Julianne Nicholson in every role I've seen her in.

A complete cast makeover save for Goldblum is risky-bordering-on-illogical though. Why not just end the series? And even if it ends up being lighter in tone like Psych or Monk, I doubt they will retain the ratings/viewership.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 26 September 2009 04:49 (sixteen years ago)

man hearing that people like CI is very weird for me, like finding a thread where people are saying "you know what my favorite part of the apple is? the stem, the stem is delicious"

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 26 September 2009 14:35 (sixteen years ago)

That sounds about right. I *would* like the stem.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

Rodgers crying! I am shocked.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:06 (sixteen years ago)

I think that was the first time she's been given a dramatic moment in like all of her appearances? All I can remember is that episode last season with Goldblum where she caught the chief medical examiner covering his tracks.

Looking forward to the Goren finale tonight, and hopefully Goldblum will make the rest of the season worthwhile.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

nice five storey house, vince.

http://www.remodelista.com/posts/architect-visit-peter-himmelstein-nyc

jed_, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 02:12 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

Goren is back!

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:36 (fifteen years ago)

yay, was not feeling goldblum at all.

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Season 9 was so bad.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

haven't seen this show in probably 5-6 years, but donofrio was consistently fun when i did watch it, even if the writing/plots were off the wall ridiculous.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

haven't seen this show in probably 5-6 years, but donofrio was consistently fun when i did watch it, even if the writing/plots were off the wall ridiculous.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

oops sorry for double post

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:56 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

still hate this show but thought this was funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBPLVkMWYgs&feature=related

The Reverend, Friday, 18 November 2011 09:13 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

how could they have the writing staff they did and then think, hey, let's have another show, where we start the episodes like totally different, where we see the CRIMINALS, except they talk a lot, and it takes a really long time and is boring, and THEN the proceduraling starts

did they not make a few and then say hey it kind of sucks starting this way maybe there is another way

j., Friday, 14 October 2016 04:35 (nine years ago)

really the worst law and order, they should have just had a second detective squad or something and given us 2x mccoy. it's done

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 14 October 2016 04:53 (nine years ago)

and then they go BACK to the criminals again and again

like who CARES about their DRAMA

j., Friday, 14 October 2016 05:33 (nine years ago)

Lumbago cares about their drama!

Michael F Gill, Friday, 14 October 2016 14:05 (nine years ago)

I love this show.

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 15 October 2016 03:27 (nine years ago)

It is my favorite law and order as well.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 15 October 2016 04:11 (nine years ago)

same

maura, Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:56 (nine years ago)

you are all dead to me

j., Saturday, 15 October 2016 13:47 (nine years ago)

1) Law & Order (Orbach/Martin)
2) Law & Order: Criminal Intent (Goldblum)
3) Law & Order (Orbach/others)
4) Law & Order (post-Orbach)
4) Law & Order: Criminal Intent (D'Onofrio)
5) Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (w/Meloni)
6) Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (post-Meloni)
7) Law & Order: UK
8) Law & Order: Trial By Jury
9) Law & Order: Los Angeles

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 15 October 2016 15:10 (nine years ago)

Ranking Goldblum above D'Onofrio clearly illustrates a need for more "law and order" in your life, I think you understand what I'm getting at.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 October 2016 16:32 (nine years ago)

Law & Order UK was all right until they killed off the guy from Battlestar Galactica.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 October 2016 16:33 (nine years ago)

they say 'how dare you' too much on this show

j., Saturday, 29 October 2016 06:35 (nine years ago)

it's weird when goren and logan have scenes together, they kind of always seem like they are looking at each other like 'hey you are that guy from that show' and logan always seems more real than anyone else

kind of like when celebrities play themselves in movies

j., Wednesday, 2 November 2016 06:41 (nine years ago)

You find this show boring and anyone who likes this show is dead to you yet you continue to watch and post in this thread. Cool!

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:33 (nine years ago)

you don't know me

j., Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:05 (nine years ago)

three years pass...

This show still rules

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:57 (six years ago)

goldblum is bad in everything

mark s, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:00 (six years ago)

comments are closed

mark s, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:00 (six years ago)

watching law & order and vincent d'onofrio & the other woman (dont know name) were searching the apartment of a suspected serial killer. woman runs her hand along the bookshelf: "novels by yukio mishima?" d'onofrio: "domination porn for intellectuals"

lol

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frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:49 (six years ago)

classic moment

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:49 (six years ago)

Law & Order is dope imo

Saw a good one about a Nazi and a neo-Nazi tonight

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:51 (six years ago)

eight months pass...

watched most of the first season over the weekend. can't get enough of d'onofrio

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:14 (five years ago)

two weeks pass...

I'm on season 8 now. Goldblum loves an opportunity to play the piano

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:59 (five years ago)


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