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Couple appeal over life pub ban


Lisa and Robert Hughes say the ban on them is unfair
A south Wales couple barred for life from drinking in public have revealed that they will appeal against the ban.
Robert and Lisa Hughes, from Rhondda, are believed to be the first in Britain to be placed under such an anti-social behaviour order (Asbo).

The couple have told BBC Wales' Week In Week Out that the ban is unfair.

But in Tuesday night's programme police warn they will continue to crack down on "ringleaders" behind nuisance behaviour.

I think we've been hard done by

Robert Hughes
Magistrates in Pontypridd placed the ban last month on the Hugheses, who are in their 30s, after they admitted public order offences.

The Asbo was brought against the couple by Rhondda Cynon Taf Council after complaints about the couple's behaviour.

Mr Hughes, 37, told Week In Week Out: "If the case may be that we've got this Asbo for life, where it means we can't go to pubs, functions, whatever, I think we've been hard done by and I will definitely be going onto my solicitor and appealing against it."

Loud music

His wife, 38, said: "I've already gone on to him (a solicitor)and said I want to appeal. It's wrong".

The couple, of Tylorstown, have also been banned from playing loud music, or entering the street where they used to live in nearby Maerdy.

Mrs Hughes was also ordered to wear an electronic tag and is forbidden from going out at night.

The programme features CCTV footage of Mr Hughes recorded by a neighbour, Brinley Jenkins, who installed cameras at his home.

I take out the ringleaders... we go for the worst first and we work our way down the list

Chief Insp Dave Dando
Mr Jenkins said: "My wife is a nervous wreck and so are a lot of people".

Jonathan Barrett, neighbourhood support officer for Rhondda Cynon Taf council, said: "Everybody who has seen the video has been shocked and appalled by the language.

"In a period of approximately three and a half minutes we counted, I believe, 54 swear words."

Mr Hughes told the programme his behaviour was a result of protectiveness towards his family.

Asked if he was frightening when he lost his temper, he said: "Yes... I am very violent, I do lose my temper... I don't care."

Mr Hughes said he would not call himself a "hard man" and he only wanted a "simple and peaceful life".

Chief Inspector Dave Dando, of South Wales Police, said nuisance behaviour would not be tolerated and those who caused harassment and alarm would suffer a similar fate to the Hugheses.

"My plan in the Rhondda is I take out the ringleaders," he said. "When we talk about problem households, we go for the worst first and we work our way down the list.

"I think the Hughes (case) is a classic.

"It sent a big shockwave through this area, that.. the police mean business, the local authority mean business, the courts mean business, that yobbish behaviour is not going to be acceptable in this community any longer."

The programme looks at other Asbo cases, including one in the north Wales village of Dwygyfylchi, where peace returned after a local man was jailed for a second time for breaching an order.

Week In Week Out is on BBC 1 Wales at 2235 BST on Tuesday.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/3807015.stm

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

bloody hell mum and dad promised they would change their names when it went on the box

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

do the rest of us get to see this?

I love watching what the scummy people get up to.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

rjg, you live in scotland

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

*ducks*

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously, though, i don't know whether to be worried or glad that this can be done.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

do you have a webcam, dave stelfox?

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmmm well always hard to know when you only get a snippet of the story. but i think it's a bit wrong. nanny states and what not.

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

no and nor would i! but what do you think about people being banned from public places for life. better to lock them up a while, i think. they're bound to break this order.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

then again i did smack a noisy wino on my road in the head with a pak choi last night, so i appreciate how annoying these people can be.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

why doesn't the story tell us what they did? because it'll be on the programme? that is not very good reporting.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Everybody who has seen the video has been shocked and appalled by the language.

Rhondda Cynon Taf council were very careful to only show the video to prudes.

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Rhondda Cynon Taf council were very careful to only show the video to prudes

yeah i was wondering if they'd inadvertently moved into an over-55s village or something. and how's the neighbour that mounted video-surveillance? invasion of privacy i would have thought

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

it is a problem and while, at base level i think this is worrying, i ahve to admit that they look like the sort of people who should be electronically tagged as a matter of course.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

"look like the sort of people"? what do you mean...

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Stelfox, you pikeyist!

MarkH (MarkH), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not really an "ism" per se... they look horrible. i am a confirmed, dyed-in-the-wool "unpleasantist"

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

thats not true. i am sure you are very kind

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

T-Shirt : "Asbo for Life!"

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

meaning i have an "ism" against unpleasant people, like the drunk geezer who was yelling abuse at people on my road last night, leading to me launching a slightly past its best pak choi at him from a third-storey window and twatting him right on the head with it. was quite a shot, i can tell you!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"FUCKING KEEP IT DOWN DOWN THERE WILL YOU. IGNORANT DICK."

"dave, please it's not worth it, why spoil a wonderful evening"

"NO LUDO I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH THAT TWAT"

http://www.parliament.ge/CULTURE/ART/PAINT/PIR/shamil.jpg

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

gung hay pak choi

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Barry Lasagne said he would not call himself a "hard man" and he only wanted a "simple and peaceful life".

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

haha!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm feeling left out and don't understand any of this

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lindbloms.se/Lindbloms/17000-20000.jpg/18030-Pak-Choi,-Joi-Choi.jpg

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

so was the drunken chap heavily menaced by your tossing of such a lethal leafy green vegetable?

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)


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